₦airaland Forum

netpro:
The very moment Atiku lost his Polling Unit (in his own home town), it was when he knew he has lost.

Here is why Atiku has gone to court:
- He is trying to save face. He never believed he will lose.
- He wants to stay in the news against 2023.
- By fighting to the end, he will be avoiding repaying those that deposited money to buy NNPC and other national assets.
- By fighting, Atiku and the PDP are trying in vain to discredit the reelection of President Muhammadu Buhari.

Sick

garfield1:
Saraki was unpopular as at the election period,it was clear.the entire kwara wanted him out.even all kwarans here except tuniski were against him.
This cant be said for akpabio.he turned hid district from ruralness to a semi paradise

The over 60000 Votes saraki got are from calabar right?

itsme01:




Thats Secondus money na, after that Kogi PDP party Delegates from all wards would collect their own on the day of the primaries .
This is why Lagos State would Remain APC state, tinubu would always buy PDP party form for jimi agbaje or any of his boys, and he would always bribe the greedy PDP state members with peanut.

An Average Governor earns a monthly Salary of 1,750,000 a month and he is suppose to buy 24m form and not loot his investment back
.

So you mean buhari is looting cos the last time I checked the apc fee was the costliest.

Anyway, a good candidate will attract endorsement and funding. If you can't buy form, how do you fund the campaigns?

IamPatriotic:
An average Nigerian Politician is obsessed with Lagos State/Asiwaju. Oyegun who was dead broke when Asiwaju picked up in order to prevent the emergence of Tom Ikimi, is also disparaging Bourdillon.

Ambode treatment wont work on Obaseki

simonlee:
Though i think Obaseki will ultimately lose this fight, i love the fact that he's not caving in like Ambode did

Perhaps, had ambode got enuff assembly members to prevent his impeachment, he would have stood up.

Generalpatton:
Oga,stop embarrassing yourself.the supreme court in 2015 guber cases that they are alien to our laws despite being a good innovation.they asked inec and nass to incorporate it into our laws so mind your words

Card reader ain't alien to our laws and transmission of result ain't either. Transmission of results is only not compulsory electronically. Electronic voting is what is alien.

Tareq1105:
It's your country's judicial system.

We all know that Server, Card Reader, Election Results Transmission etc are alien to 2010 Electoral Act used for 2019 elections.

Why are you Atikulooooters blaming the judiciary?

Who made the law? Is it the judiciary?

Even Atiku Legal Team knew abinitio that he couldn't rely on Server to get judgement turned in his favour because server is not recognized by any law in Nigeria. It's their Legal Fees that won't allow them to give proper advice to their Principal.

The same even for Card Reader see the case of Nyesom Wike vs Dakuku Peterside (2015) where the use of Card Reader was declared an aberration, an alien, and null and void.

If this is a judicial precedence set in 2015, which all PDP family applauded then, therefore, Buhari too can rely on it since the electoral law remain the same.

Atiku is indeed a bad loser.

They ain't alien and if they are the judiciary will do justice to that by declaring them so. It is good for our democracy.

Bhol28:
When the judiciary ruled and gave PDP Zamfara free of charge they hailed them as the defender of the oppressed.now they are being termed as biased.

They have so far done what is right.

mikron:
Atikus legal counsel's keep urging him on, keep eating his looted cash. Let him keep fighting for an imaginary lost non existent phony mandate. Mofo
But pdp thought we are so gullible to usher them back into power after all they did in their 16 years of bad leadership in Nigeria. Never again.

He is deepening our democracy irrespective what the tribunal judgement will be. Democrats and true lovers of democracy will salute him.

Atiku coming will be magical and soul lifting to nigeria.

The rejection is in order as it is a substantive matter.

It will be dealt in the trial proper.

RichBoy247:
I have a Server in my office, PDP should come and inspect my Server. Ewu Congo

Atiku will see pepper.

We have revoked Intels fraudulent license. We shall revoke his fraudulent University's accreditation. Then he will go and re-apply for employment in Nigeria Customs Service where he originally resigned. Thereafter, the Nigeria Immigration Service will abduct him for being an illigal immigrant living illegally in Nigeria, then he will be dumped in Cameroon. If you think that we cannot depot Atiku, go and read about how Nigeria Ministry of Internal Affairs deported Alhaji Shugaba Darman was deported from Nigeria by the regime of Alhaji Shehu shagari. So, Atikuchukwu is going.

Law 15 of the 48 Laws of Power: Destroy/Crush your enemies completely/totally.

It will do you right to understand the detail of the judgement. The tribunal are right.

Deepthoughts:
I read a more detailed report of this judgement on another media,I would have disagree completely with the judges decision but for the fact that they said the main issue of the server will be dealt with during the main hearing, opportunity must given to Atiku/pdp to prove beyond doubt that this said server exist n let INEC also defend her denials beyond mere claims, I'm surprised that instead of Atiku been commended for been matured n honourable in taking the legal path to fight for his case instead of engaging in any form of violence some set of persons with eroded sanity are jeering, condemning n urging him to just accept defeat n move on yet ironically these same set of insane persons will quickly felicitate with their favorite politicians for fighting n winning in court!, zombies will be quick to tell you that buhari going to court even when it was glaring that he lost was a mark of determination but Atiku doing same is unpatroitism, what a shameless display of hypocrisy!the judiciary must stand firm n defend her honour by been just or accept to be compromised at their own peril.

Their order is okay since the issue will be dealt with at the proper trial.

Generalpatton:
Sounds like someone familiar.all atiku's prayers will be struck out sir.anything server isn't in our laws,falsification of certificates is pre election case same as perjury.90 days have gone,its impossible to prove irregularities im the remaining 90 days.the case is dead.
Out of the remaining three months,atiku has 1 month,apc one month and the court one month.its over up buhari.tuniski,engineerboat and christiannorth

The rejection is cos it is part of substantive matter and therefore can't be entertain at the level of interlocutory.

It is perfectly in order.

Benekruku:
Whats mischievous here? That am trying to say the last election was conducted manually and their was "NO WAY" the result could have been transmitted to a server?

The result was transmitted electronically but since it wasn't required to be compulsorily done , INEC wanted it to be only for their own consumption.
Now it has backfired.

deomelo:
Atiku is dumber than dumb.

If INEC actually engaged in electronic transmission of results , it means they violated the electoral laws and the whole results and election must be thrown out in favor of new elections.

This is the best case scenario and best option option for Atiku because since his main issue is transmission of election results via a server which is illegal, the server shouldn't be the real issue, it should have been illegal transmission of election results.

.....but Atiku and his lawyers are either dumb and incompetent or they are just playing games and wasting our time.

The law does not prohibit electronic transmission, it only didn't expressly make it compulsory.

Benekruku:
You said it all. Am still looking for one to proof to me where a server came to play. Voting was done manually. Thumbprinting on ballot papers was used. So am waiting to hear where a server was storing votes across the country simultaneously during the election.

All I hear is server. What server are we talking about here? Except the one containing the data of the electorates which definitely could not capture votes.

Or is someone telling me the ballot papers are electronic.

You simply don't get it or u are deliberately being mischievous .

Generalpatton:
You are the one that is wrong.the first three appeals are grounds in one suit.the 2nd appeal is a cross appeal.but let me not argue further because you never accept defeat.to show you that you that your legal knowledge is limited,you are treating the technicalities lightly.that is the first thing any court rules on that is why its called preliminary objections.if the supreme court finds merit in them,the case is over.ask any lawyer friend around you to educate you more before you misled yourself again.
According to you,the first appeal deals with the appeal judgment.if the supreme uphelds it especially the one relating to the absence of justice obiora,the 4th appeal is dead.try and understand simple things

The supreme court can uphold the Appeal court judgment but, still declare Adeleke winner on the 2nd appeal if it rules that supplementary election based on the margin of victory is inconsistent with the constitution thereby rendering the September 27th supplementary election Null and void since adeleke met the constitutional requirement to be declared winner.

The import of the judgment on the 4th appeal is deeper than Osun election but, on the validity or otherwise of 'margin of victory conditionality'.

If the SC rules against it, then Kano's situation is solved instantly.

Deepthoughts:
The simple truth of this server issue is that INEC has servers but because the law does not permit electronic transfer of elections results,INEC deployed the servers secretly in a collaborative scheme with APC/Buhari to monitor the elections results especially presidential upfront so that if the results didn't favour Buhari/Apc as it did happen,they can quickly employ dirty tricks to manipulate the results to their taste before making their final announcement, unfortunately Atiku/PDP were ahead of them n now INEC is confused n speaking with different sides of their tongue, unfortunately the more INEC try to play smart the more their folly keep staring them in the face, except the presidential elections tribunal are compromised or without conscience the least they should do is to cancel the elections as was done in Kenya recently.

Exactly!

frankson1:
I made corrections to the post you quoted.

If results were transmitted to a server, how was it distributed to the different political parties?

I DID NOT TRANSMIT ELECTION RESULTS TO ANY SERVER AND IT WASN'T ELECTION RESULTS THAT WERE TRANSMITTED.

Which are you?

BabaO2:
How is it contentious, only a natural thief can have boldness of claiming victory over Buhari in that election. It's nauseating, somebody that can't win his poling unit wants to be president. Dubai tactics cant work in Nigeria

No, let us assume buhari won, then even the back end e-transmitted result will show same the margins may only be different.

BabaO2:
reason why the results of those states were so contentious and very close. It is not the same with presidential, and all indicators are distinctly clear

Same reason why the presidential election results are now being so contentious. Do you get it?

PDP is claiming it won the presidency regardless of NASS election which is very possible

frankson1:
In my unit voting wasn't done manually. Infact, I had two SCRs should one fail. The POs did everything and made sure the calculations was correct before sending.I worked with INEC tech guys where I'm confused.
There is no provision on the SCRs to state the results of each of the political parties.

Why is it difficult for you to understand? Let me explain to you again; accreditation was done by the card reader and it is mandatory. If the card reader fails to authenticate your PVC you can't validly vote.
However, after the card reader has accredited you, you are then given a ballot paper to vote manually. At the end of the voting, the ballot papers are sorted and results collated manually.

It is after this phase that the results as collated manually are then transmitted to the central server using same card reader by the E-transmission (the inec official empowered to do so)

Tareq1105:
Premium Times e o ni ni isimi. Ori ejo elejo lobi maa nku si, e o ni ni isimi.

Heating up the polity unnecessarily.

I ask your Chairman Editorial Board, what does the 2010 Electoral Law say about election results?

Transmission ko, misimission ni.

Is it the evidence of INEC staff or what the law says?

Even Smart Card Reader is not recognized in this election going by 2010 Electoral Law. Ask Nyesom Wike when you see him mumu.

Atiku just want to discredit the outcome of the election but even at that it won't change anything.

Buhari till 2023.

Be talking while the govt loses legitimacy.

frankson1:
No Sir, the SCR wasn't used in voting. And did they state the results of each of the political parties?

You still dont get. it is not about voting. Voting was done manually and the result collated manually, right? After that the manually collated results were then transmitted to the central server using the card reader which is enabled to do that.

The transmitted result was the remote control used to manipulate Osun election. Cos they already knew centrally that Adeleke won marginally, they then went to work disrupting and canceling some units to create an inconclusive outcome.

Generalpatton:
You are too learned to start confusing yourself.seems you are new to tribunal procedures.those appeals you mentioned are the main or substantive suit and can only be treated if preliminary objections and technicalities are struck out.they will also look at the request for amendment by ikpeazu.too many hurdles to cross for adeleke.i wont be surprised if that error that was noticed on the 17 was due to sabotage or deliberate.
The second appeal will not matter if the first appeal goes against adeleke,the first appeal being against the appeal court ruling on justice obiora's absence.if his absent is deemed to distort the composition of the panel,then it is over.the 2nd appel will just be mere academic exercise,pure formalities.

You get it very wrong. The first consolidated appeal deals with the Appeal court judgment while the 4 stand alone challenges the legality of the supplementary election which is inconsistent with the provision of section 179 of the constitution.

That is why they are taken separately. The technicality is limited to the processes of the trial while the 4th appeal is on interpretation and import of the provision of the constitution;simple majority and 25% of 2/3. That the margin of victory introduction is alien to the constitution.

Daboomb:
I wonder why Nigerians are NOT GENERALLY SMART?
All these arguements about "Server and Transmission" is uncalled-for!

If you like, say you TRANSMITTED ANYTHING to ANYWHERE, it does not gurrantee DELIVERY to that SERVER (if the Server is OFFLINE or EVEN UNAVAILABLE).
The fact that you send an Email to some Email Address, does not mean the Email was delivered to somebody.
Email Adress could be wrong, could be fake, could even be non-existent but your Email would tell you "Message Sent".

Despite all the above, as long as the curent Electoral Law PROHIBITS TRANSMISSION OF ELECTION RESULTS DIGITALLY..... any ACTION that furthers that prohibition is unlawful, illegal, Null and Void, ab initio.
You cant build Something on Nothing.

Atikulooted suppoters and his Lawyers should find a better way of proving their case instead of this wild geese chase.

Cllever by half!

frankson1:
The SCR was used for VERIFICATION and AUTHENTICATION but where the SCR fails to do any of the two and the voter's name is on the voter's register then the voter can proceed to cast his vote.

Yeah, INEC had server where the voters information was uploaded to. But the question I keep asking is ; did the SCR identify each of the political parties that was voted for? Did the SCR state the results in figures to each political party?
If only PDP can explain how the party came about the result.

INEC and APC lawyers are 'otondo' sef

The returning officers especially at ward level transmitted the Results to the server using the SCR. Hope you get it.

BabaO2:
they even won tbe senate and house of representatives which were conducted same day, same time and by the same voters. Only thing on atiku's mind throughout his life is to steal, even in obasanjo's regime he did similar things

Wrong you can win presidency without winning majority in NASS. Just like in Sokoto,Bauchi Where pdp won guber but, apc had majority in state assemblies.

Benekruku:
False news. How was it Transmitted?

Those card readers have not that capability. And voting was done manually.


What transmitted thumb printing?

And the electoral officers that read results out manually, was it different from what they claim to have transmitted.

Their is no case here. Lawyers are the ones enjoying the pay masters.

You dont get it at all.

ERockson:
I think Igbo will surely get 2023 presidency if they channel all their political energy in achieving it rather than ensuring Tinubu or Yoruba don't get it. I think the energy, strategy and other method igbo are using and will use from now should be more than enough to get the 2023 presidency.

2023 is not for igbos no matter the strategy.

sunnymaja:
Even Tinubu they call names dont get 28% of revenue collected. How can one collect 28% and still refused to remit 72%? Why did pdp government allowed it in the first instance? Why was it not done like lagos state where individual share of revenue is done at source and no one needs to settle the other. And this man wants to govern Nigeria - then, Obasanjo may be right on his comments regarding him

Judging based on one-sided story is evil!