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henrychubayo: This religion can brainwash ppl. While the man who sent you to die as a suicide bomber is either in the office or somewhere else but the fools will go and die. What a religion of peace indeed.

Which religion is that?Christianity?

See below for more information:

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155607%3Achristians-tried-to-bomb-church-in-bauchi-police-say&catid=2%3Alead-stories&Itemid=8#.T03LiFVPi7Q.facebook

This whole thing is preplanned.
My younger sister in Noble College (a stone trow from d site of explosion) just came home now and she told us that few minutes before the explosion some armed soildiers came to her class (nd other classes too) to call out all muslims and tell them to go home. . . CONSPIRACY.

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Listen to yourself!

.......and what makes them Boko Haram memebers

hotwax: Fulanis are the worst animals on this planet.
They kill innocent farmers just because they want to take their cows for grazing. Imagine, killing human being bcuz of grass
They kill their host everywhere they are from Ogun state to Abia to Benue. Fulanis are always killing people everyday.
Are they the one being offended? If all ethnic groups kill with a little or no excuse as they are, who else will remain in Nigeria
They kill Tiv people everyday in Benue. What have these innocent TIV farmer done to them ?
They kill in Kaduna, are they d only one in Nigeria?

My dear,I see your point.You have identified one of the root cause(although not sure that's the true picture).What is the role of the stake holders including the Government to prevent future occurrence?

Whats your suggestion to bring an end to these killings?

I think people are just being unfair to the Fulani people,is it because their voices are not heard through the bias media?There is no smoke without fire,I believe the Fulani are not blood tasty,they react to injustice against them.

Please before you castigate me,I am not justifying the bloodshed as an advocate of peace.Rather than taking sides the root cause should be addressed and make the 2 parties see reasons to live in Harmony again.

This step by JTF will only sustain the full growth of enmity among generation unborn,hence,we live on time bomb. When are we gonna learn to mediate and replace goodwill with Military actions? Force has never produced desirable result in human history.

I Live in Jos and have lost count of Yorubas and Ibos who have been victims of the clash between Beroms and Hausa/Fulani clashes.Recently,some Ibos fall victim to the Beroms (You wont see that in the news).The point here is that if we sit,display sentiments and castigate from far,you wont know when it gets to you.Search,confirm and speak the truth pls.


Need I say more?

ifihearam: A virtuous wife indeed

How did you know

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I am a Muslim but stay in 99% christian dominated area in Plateau State,its all about tolerance and diplomacy.

Its normal to get scared seeing Jos on your call up letter.

The state is still volatile(meaning that little misunderstanding could erupt into disputes and violence) coupled with the recent Bokoharam syndrome

The secrets to live successfully in Jos are;

1.Be prayerful

2.Know where to go and where not to(I expect the orientation camp to take care of that).

3. When you hear any info abt crisis,pls stay where u are.

The truth is Jos is a nice place to live and the crisis in Jos originated from Land dispute between the Hausa and the locals,graduated to political and religion was used to fuel the crisis.

I lived next to a mosque for over four years in lagos. I know what they preach in the mosque. They insult jews all day long. They keep preaching that boko haram is not the problem. They say America and Israel is behind the bombing. They never condemn Boko Aram or any other act of terrorism around the world. If they can be that way in Lagos, then I can tell you they are far worse in the North. Have you not noticed that every major attck on Christians start after friday jumat service? Please spare us the stories. Silence means consent. I don't hear general condemnation coming from muslims. Not buhari, not tinubu, ibb, gusau, and so on. So don't tell me stories. And please, there are no christian suicide bombers. You aint fooling anyone with that bile. It is a terrible sin to take your life as a christian.

Edicolove,Do you eavesdrop or you sit inside the mosque?are you one of those affected by the recent retrenchment?How come you know they insult Jews all day?are you a jew?What do you know about international politics?You just write while you keep your brain in the freezer

Instead of you to listen and read news,you are busy eavesdropping,joining introduction to conclusion without considering the body.Gbeborun,daleru,eke to ntu ile,brother solo makinde.That's why you don't know Muslims codemn the BH activities.You need info about christian BH?check the link and picture below:

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155607%3Achristians-tried-to-bomb-church-in-bauchi-police-say&catid=2%3Alead-stories&Itemid=8#.T03LiFVPi7Q.facebook

calaway: oh shut up!!!! u are all the the same telling lies to yourselves all the time. First off the entire nigeria has it own fair share of poverty and unemployment, this is no excuse for the Hausa north to kill southerner/christians.
then Benue state used to be part of the North but now they want to be identified as middlebelt (not the other way round).
Fanatism/extemism does not exist in chritainity.
The desire to kill directly or indirectly is inherent in your people. it has nothing to do with education, povrty etc. all you need is an excuse to kill even strangers. eg. sponsors of bokoharam and the very rich and british educated Farouk Adulmutallab (underwaer bomber who father spearheaded islamic banking in Nigeria)

Calaway,make I hear word joor!Widen your thinking beyond Ethic or religious sentiments.

Every section of Nigeria is on time bomb,we need divine intervention,proactive and pragmatic approach to get it right.

The Niger Delta youths are engaged in Oil theft daily(Nigeria losses 5 billion Naira annually,once that door closes you will be amazed by thousands of terrorists that will rise from that region.

Open your eyes,check the link below:

http://saharareporters.com/interview/conversation-henry-okah-sabella-ogbobode-abidde

Edicolove,

No contradiction there. Religion breeds terrorists. Greedy politicians use them. That's so easy to understand, it is amazing how you missed it.

Now I see why you had F9 in English!The statements of David Mark is clear,wondering why you display your shallow depth of comprehension to the public.

CONTRADICTION!!!

… Says Religious Fundamentalism, Not Poverty Responsible For Boko Haram Crisis

While declaring open the retreat the 2011 Senate Retreat taking place at the Ibom Meridien and Golf Resort, the Senate President attributed the emergence and upsurge of terrorist activities in the country to some “disgruntled and over-ambitious politicians.”

A friend of mine once told me that the Quran instructs Muslims to kill all Infidels. I agreed with him that violent interpretations of the Quran exist and permeate many of our Islamic books. My friend then quoted the following 3 verses to prove his point.

Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101}
Quran {Prophet, make war on the infidels Sura 66: 9}
Quran {Never be a helper to the disbelievers Sura 28:86}

I thanked my friend for making this point as well as indicating these verses, and then responded as follows:

Comments:
Clearly, the above verses can incite much animosity and subsequent violence vis-a-vis all non-Muslims. Accepted literally - and uncritically - these verses lend themselves to the unjust persecution of otherwise innocent people, whose only crime is being non-Muslim. However, a pivotal matter of linguistic importance is often overlooked: the significance and usage of the definite article, "al" (i.e., "the", which precedes the various disparaging Arabic words - kafirun, mushrikun - that describe non-believers in the Quran and which are often translated as "non-believers," "infidels," "idolaters," or "polytheists." Furthermore, in Arabic, the definite article is physically attached to the word it describes.

See below:

Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101}
Quran {Prophet, make war on the infidels Sura 66: 9
Quran {Never be a helper to the disbelievers Sura 28:86}

The exact Arabic expression in these verses - indeed, in every verse that talks of the non-believer - is "Al-Kaferrin" or "Al-la-dhina Kafaru." The use of "Al-" or "Al-la-dhina" limits the verse (and thus commandment) to
(1) a specific time and place in history and
(2) a specific group of people who were obstacles to the establishment of Islam in its nascent phase.
It is these two factors that caused these verses to be revealed. Had the intentions of the Quran been to extend the application of these verses in perpetuity, it would have used the expression "Man Kafar," rather than "Al-Kafereen" or "Al-La-dhina Kafaru". The former, "Man Kafar," literally means any one who does not believe in God; while the latter, "Al-Kafereen," - the infidels - denotes a specific group of people: they who fought Prophet Mohamed in the early stages of Islam.

Moreover, the overriding principle which must ultimately guide our understanding of these verses is the constant Quranic reminder that good Muslims do not initiate violence against others so long as the latter do not provoke hostilities.

Quran 2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who start fighting you, but do not transgress limits (or start the attack); for God loveth not transgressors.

Indeed, according to other verses, even if a Muslim deemed someone an infidel, according to the Quran, he is still obligated to:

1. Behave with courtesy :
Consider, for instance, the following verse, which is supposed to instruct Muslims as to how they should deal with non-Muslims in the midst of hostilities (such as war): 9:6 And if any of the Idolaters (who are fighting you) seeks thy protection, grant him protection, so that he might [be able to] hear the word of God [from thee]; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure:
If Muslims are to behave with such clemency and magnanimity vis-a-vis the infidel during times of war and conflict, how much more should be expected of their interactions with non-Muslims during times of peace?


2. Respect his freedom of choice to be a "Disbeliever" - as this is a right bestowed upon humanity by God:
Quran 18:29 proclaims, "The truth is from your Lord": it is the free will of any person to believe (in God) or to be an Infidel (Un believer).


3. Even if a Muslim should be convinced that someone is a non-believer, still he must accept that his fate is in the hands of God alone, since no one human can condemn another - this must be left to the judgment of God.
Quran 88:25-26 for behold, unto (ONLY) Us (means God) will be their return, Then it will be for (ONLY) Us to Judge (humans).
22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean an ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things.

I think FMCG coys like Nestle Nigeria PLC,Frieslandcampina Wamco and P&G should make the list.

Where did you get your explanation from?I will believe you are not twisting the bible when you learn to spell simple words in English:

Mankind8: The Mesage was meant for the Corintian women who believed to be more Than there Husband. The were proud, heartened and thought the were equal or supirior. That was why ApOSTle Paul was giving them His personal openion to corintian Women and duty. GO AND READ BIBLE HISTORY BASIS. Thanks to other pastor around here

Italo,when did you become my teacher?

I am not justifying any conflicts,just trying to open your eyes to the fact that bloodshed cannot be divorced from Religion and ideologies(including communism,democracy....). So that when you say

That Muslims are known for mindless killings all over the world

,you would realize how much ignorance and religious bigotry you display to the public.

With the current situation in the country,Muslims feel uncomfortable and consistently dissociate from Boko Haram.

However,using the activities of small group of people in the North to justify Islam as a world religion is contemptuous and exposes how shallow your intellectual depth is.A lot happens in Nigeria,most times land disputes can lead to religious crisis due to population variation.

Please provide the info that in Egypt Muslims attack 10% Christians CONSISTENTLY and also the root cause or I tag you as a confused individual looking for attention.

Its glaring that your mission is to fan embers of religious intolerance on this platform.How can someone compare a christian to a Chicken?and you attribute it to Islam?
Al- Quran 5:32“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”

Have you wondered why a lot of people became Muslims after 9/11?They strove to know about the religion and the conspiracy WITH OPEN MINDS.

Have you ever reasoned why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?The number of Pilgrims to Mecca has never reduced,instead capacity increases annually.

My dear friend, a lot of international conspiracy to name Islam black.I am optimistic that the truth will prevail and we Muslims will never feel apologetic or doubt our religion under no circumstance.Its the Religion of peace whether you believe it or not.
Al- Quran 2:256 “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.”

LagosShia,is that your contribution to the bloodshed,height of intolerance and hatred exhibited by Nigerians?

Is your mission cause further division,diversion of thoughts and crisis?

Where is your brain?in your hand?

Italo,have seen this Quranic verse before?or your mission is to fan embers of religious intolerance?or misrepresent Islam?

Italo,I could also quote many biblical verses out of context.

The verses you quoted out of context were during the persecution of the Muslims.Verses in the Holy Quran were revealed based on the current situation.

Research Freemasonry,Crusaders,Knights Templar,Conflicts between Protestants and Catholic,......then,we will discuss!

Think deep!

My aim is not to apologize for my religion; I will not write as one who is ashamed of my way of life, and before you shout ‘Southern Muslim!’ like I’m certain you’re probably already thinking, let me inform you that Muslims all over the world are one and the same.
Once, the Prophet (PBUH) was asked ‘who is a Muslim?’, his reply made it clear that anyone who believes in the Oneness of God and offers as-salat (prayers) regularly is a Muslim; I call this the ‘minimum requirement(s) into the school of Islam’, a School of which I’m a proud student. I have faith in the Oneness of God, I observe as-salat, I give Zakat (charity), I fast during Ramadan, and I hope to go on pilgrimage soon. Muslim, I am, and I will die as one (Insha Allah).
Many times, I’ve had cause to dispel rumours about my religion (I do not conform to any form of stereotype, so I’ve had the privilege of hearing a lot of lies and conjecture). Once, on a bus from Enugu to Lagos, a preacher decided to get the attention of his ‘mobile congregation’ by misquoting and murdering verses from the Holy Qur’an. I respectfully waited for him to end his hateful sermon, then produced my Quran and read the actual verses to everyone in the bus. I even took time to explain what Jihad means, what it entails, and what led to it. Yes, I’m a woman; No, I’m not a scholar. But do you have to be male or a Reverend to understand the Bible?
As you most probably already know, Jihad means Holy War. There are two forms of Jihad- the one you fight within yourself (this entails choosing between what’s right and what’s wrong), and actual warfare.
Now, what led to it?
When the Prophet (PBUH) began to spread the message of Islam, the unbelievers (pagans, idol worshippers) of that time decided that Muslims didn’t deserve to live; they attacked Muslims, took over their properties, killed them. Muslims were oppressed. Initially, they were asked to ignore the pagans and maintain peace, but when the situation became unbearable, God asked them to fight back.
The first verse revealed with respect to Jihad (V 2:190) says ‘And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors‘. This verse is the ‘foundation’ of Jihad, it prescribes THE standard for warfare in the name of God.
Fight against those who fight against you; God did not say ‘fight against those who piss you off’, He didn’t say ‘fight against those who you don’t like’. ‘Fight against those who fight against you’ means self-defence is the ONLY form of violence that’s permitted.
‘But do not transgress limits’; self-defence was the previously established limit. ‘Transgression’ would then mean fighting people who didn’t attack you first. This is termed ‘irjaf’. Irjaf and Jihad are two extremely different things.
Before you judge the over one billion Muslims in the world by the actions of some hell-bound transgressors, kindly permit me to draw your attention to the Muslim Capital of the World; Saudi Arabia. Do Christians live there or not? How many times has a suicide bombing occurred there? How many times have some obviously deluded, highly misguided maniacs demanded that they all revert to Islam?
This brings me to another issue- suicide. My Qur’an tells me that suicide is a one-way ticket to Hell. Couple that with aggression, and tell me what the outcome would be.
This brings me, inevitably, to Boko Haram. Personally, I believe what happened in this case was a deliberate move by government to hijack a problem that should have been solved at inception, and turn it to a political tool for division.
Nigerians have always had a penchant for tribalism; add different religions to the mix and the potion becomes even more volatile and potentially lethal. Just how lethal that potion is, is what we’re all experiencing now.
Frankly, what this is about is speaking for myself and others like me, and most importantly, sparing Islam the pain of being seen as something it’s not.
Claiming Islam encourages violence is akin to saying that Christianity or Buddhism or Zoroastrianism, or even Scientology, gives room for a vice that some of its followers have.
Right now, I’m just so glad that Hitler and Truman weren’t Muslims.
My point? PEOPLE are evil, PEOPLE kill, and taking up arms and killing little children is no justification. Boko Haram does not have the mandate of Nigerian Muslims to exterminate Christians. When Boko Haram killed Imams almost on a daily basis, there were no reprisals. Nobody said ‘Muslims have asked Boko Haram to kill the clerics’. When busy areas of Kano were bombed, no one said ‘Muslims are killing Christians again’.
This selective anger, this selective pity, is what I do not like. My eldest sister is an evangelist, my niece bears the name ‘Chukwuamaka’, her father is an Igbo man. Why would I, a Muslim, then decide to send Boko Haram on a mission to kill Christians? Or why would I harbour murderous thoughts towards Christians at all?
My Quran tells me that ‘…….he who takes a life will be judged like he killed all of mankind….he who saves a life will be judged like he saved all of mankind’ (5:32). If Boko Haram is following any sort of manual, it is not this Qur’an (or any other for that matter because there are no different versions. The Qur’an is the same anywhere in the world). Perhaps if we did the right thing and displaced those thieves and murderers from their seats of power, we would find copies of the manual beneath those seats.
There’s a rule I abide by; ‘if you don’t know it, don’t say it’. Seventy-two virgins as reward for suicide? I’ve read the Qur’an from cover to cover countless times and not once have I come across it. The Holy Qur’an does not portray Paradise as a reward for suicide and/or murder.
I pray that God gives all those who’ve lost their loved ones- Muslims, Christians, Traditionalists, free thinkers- the fortitude to bear the loss.

Religious bigotry in display!!!Youths mentioning KILL like a normal word? .

Christians and Muslims have lived,inter-marry and never considered their differences as an obstacle.

We are all humans and choice of belief shouldn't be a barrier,cos it could be temporary or permanent.


I weep for the future of this country,if youths could be displaying so much hatred,spreading myopic and sentimental views,fanning embers of religious intolerance with little or no historic,political,factual and contemporary knowledge.

Time will tell!!!

Whats the purpose of your write up?

The more you criticize Islam,the more it becomes the fastest growing religion in the world.

Don't confuse personalty with Religion,a lot of people that got to understand Islam revert back.

There is no compulsion in Religion,do whatever pleases you,leave others to do what they believe in and expect the deliverable.

STOP YOUR CRITICISM AND GET YOUR BRAIN ENGAGED!!!

BUSINESSMAN TO THE CORE!!!

If a man slaps his wife its Boko Haram .

We had better open our eyes,classify crimes appropriately and improve our security systems in this country.

Based on the link below,if these guys were not caught,it would have been classified as another BH attack.

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155607%3Achristians-tried-to-bomb-church-in-bauchi-police-say&catid=2%3Alead-stories&Itemid=8#.T03LiFVPi7Q.facebook

@OP,I expected you to know better!!! How on earth?Nigerian PRESIDENT-Dr Ngozi Okonjo Iweala?

Need I say more?