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Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 1:45pm On Jan 07, 2015

Shawl001:
. Okay. So why would i want to be *like the father* in the first place? Why is it necessary ƒσя me to?

because you can't handle the world to come without having the properties of God in you. I'll be low in that world coz I'm not like the Father, coz that world is what I'll call "Truth World". The commandment Jesus gave, "be ye perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect". In other words, perfection is becoming like the Father. Perfection is becoming like the Father. Perfection is the salvation gan gan. Because those who shall rule in that world will sit with Him and you can't sit on the throne with Yahweh if you're not like Yahweh. Fear wouldn't even allow you coz the menorah before the throne will consume you. Jesus is the Father, He is like Yahweh, He is sitted and God wants you to sit with Him. The reason for Jesus being the Son of God is also that God wants many Sons like Jesus, who will be co-inheritors. If you shall judge angels, you have to have what it takes, because the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost are higher than them, you too have to be higher. come up hither He says.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 1:36pm On Jan 07, 2015

efficiencie:
Wow bro! Do you have scriptural basis for this? Can someone who hasn't started an iota of the course salvation even enter heaven at all? And if there are such people in Heaven what would be their fate? Did i read about weeping and gnashing of teeth in Heaven in your comment? How's that?

Ma bro get revelation and not a textual or semantic analysis alone!

Rev.21:4,people will still weep and what will cause weeping is not because of hell or Lake, but because that which they should become they didn't. First reset your mind about what salvation is, because if you don't..yOu can't get this teaching. It is not about going to heaven(heaven is just a planet). This present heaven will perish. Rev 22:2...is for the healing of the nations, those nations are people and for those who haven't started the course of "salvation" because being "saved" doesn't start and end that same day. The day you gave your life to Christ, you're meant to finish the course of "salvation"(IITimothy 4:7) by continuing in the obedience of the Truth. You don't know the Truth, I don't know the Truth, we have to know the Truth because salvation is in 3 fold, the fourth fold is arrival at a threshold/ gate or throne of a Spirit. You have to know the Way, which will lead you to the Truth, and then you will enter into Life, then you can now come to the Father who is Salvation Himself.(Rev22:4). There shall be no coming, if you haven't passed through these 3 folds, coming is not one day. Salvation is "coming to the Father" and not shouting, "yee, I don escape hell oo, or I don enter heaven ooo...haa..tHank God". That's why I said salvation continues in Heaven if you don't finish your course here on earth. Heaven is not a place where you sing and dance only, it is where you are lecture 'God'. Because you haven't started an iota of salvation, so you don't know Him, God will make sure before anyone enter the world to come, you must have reach a threshold.

Will there be gnashing of teeth, yes now...shame go dey in those days. When you don't become like the Father, you'll be ashamed, so better for us to run the race of salvation now. And the shame will stay for long. Because when you look at the faces of saints of old that have completed their course, by their countenance you will know what they are telling you. The likes of Enoch, Abraham, Nahum, Hosea, people will want to hide, but ther won't be a space to do so. I dread this shame. Luke 13:24-28.- so when people are thrusted out, you know what it means. We take it with levity here because we can't comprehend what am speaking. If jesus say, "strive to enter" in that passage, then know that he is not joking. I pray God will make you understand this and have your eyes opened to this truth. Amen.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 1:02pm On Jan 07, 2015

Shawl001:
. Hello! This THING you are teaching is somehow ooh. It sound strange. Which one is "DO U̶̲̥̅̊ WANT A PROTOTYPE ØƑ SOMEONE WHO IS SAVED? CHECK THE FATHER...bla bla bla. Bro, the Father is saved from WHO? GOD is salvation Itself. It originates from HIM. He's not saved from anybody. He only want to save us all from the perils øƒ the DEVIL. The devil is not over HIM. He is over the devil and He wants us to be too. Bro, try and use ur words well. Abeg#

that is the problem and that's your problem because y'all think salvation is being saved from the devil and hell and whatever you may think of...check what I said again...salvation is not going to heaven, salvation is not escaping hell, salvation is not escaping from the clutches of the devil. The real meaning of salvation is becoming like the Father. That's salvation and that's whhy I said you should look at the three immortals I mentioned if you want to know what salvation is.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 8:33am On Jan 07, 2015*

efficiencie:
your theology tickles!

because it can be hard to understand. Salvation is not going to heaven. Because the heaven you're going to will perish and it will pass away. If salvation is going to heaven, then you will pass away with it. Salvation is becoming like the Father(to put it simply). That's why I said, no one is as saved as God. Do u want a prototype of someone who is saved? Check the Father, check the Son, and take a look at the Holy Ghost. Many will even go to heaven(the planet called Heaven is so spacious), and heaven even won't know they have arrived in that world. You know these angels have sight to decipher people, when they look at you, they will say this one hasn't not started even an iota of the course(salvation). He is not savEd...even though he had the chance...that's what will birth weeping. When what you're supposed to become, you didn't become it. It is worse than going to hell.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 10:24pm On Jan 06, 2015

PastorOluT:
It will be better to open a new thread to discuss this for we have derailed this one. This thread is very important cos so many xtians are not even aware that there is a salvation of the soul. So I suggest we no longer derail it.

I will open another thread on "Does the poeple presently in Hell still have hope?" I will put down my thoughts here n what d bible says so we can all discuss it.

ok. Seun please I rarely receive notification about mentioning again.pls rectify this

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 4:22pm On Jan 06, 2015

PastorOluT:
U are still nt directly answering my question, maybe u should look it over again?

U said u can say who will partake of the second death or what yardstick the Lord would use? I know u believe the scriptures cos its boldly written therein that

4 Then I saw thrones, and sitting on them were those to whom authority to act as judges and to pass sentence was entrusted. Also I saw the souls of those who had been slain with axes [beheaded] for their witnessing to Jesus and [for preaching and testifying] for the Word of God, and who had refused to pay homage to the beast or his statue and had not accepted his mark or permitted it to be stamped on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived again and ruled with Christ (the Messiah) a thousand years. (A)

5 The remainder of the dead were not restored to life again until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed (happy, [a] to be envied) and holy (spiritually whole, of unimpaired innocence and proved virtue) is the person who takes part (shares) in the first resurrection! Over them the second death exerts no power or authority, but they shall be ministers of God and of Christ (the Messiah), and they shall rule along with Him a thousand years.

Revelation 20

So those that overcome firstly has overcome forever n the second death has no power over then anymore. I believe u know the second death is the eternal damnation which will have power over those later mentioned

12 I [also] saw the dead, great and small; they stood before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life. And the dead were judged (sentenced) by what they had done [ [b] their whole way of feeling and acting, their aims and endeavors] in accordance with what was recorded in the books.

13 And the sea delivered up the dead who were in it, death and Hades ( [c] the state of death or disembodied existence) surrendered the dead in them, and all were tried and their cases determined by what they had done [according to their motives, aims, and works].

14 Then death and Hades ( [d] the state of death or disembodied existence) were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

15 And if anyone's [name] was not found recorded in the Book of Life, he was hurled into the lake of fire.

Though this is nt my question bt since u mentioned it I had to show what the scriptures says concerning it. Maybe I should mk it simpler

Are u saying that those in Hell presently can still end up being saved or in Heaven or kingdom of God?

NB Uderstood the difference btw the kingdom of God n Heaven so no need to try state d difference again

looks like Nairaland don't notify people of long post again or what!
Salvation is relative...what I mean is we have to know the in-depth of salvation. You can be in heaven and yet you're not save as you ought to be saved. When angels looks at such a fellow, they will say this one has not passed through salvation and that's what will give birth to cries and weeping and gnashing of teeth in that time(Luke 13:28)It is worse than being thrown into the Lake. Like I said that if you want to know a prototype of what salvation is: look at the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. So, if you ask me if those in hell will end up being saved, this will I say to you: I won't use "saved" coz it is deep but if they can stroll to heaven? Yes.

Concerning the 1st and 2nd resurrection(coz two types of resurrection will happen): the saints and the wicked. To be a partaker in the 1st meant you're sealed, ur fate is not staggering maybe u'll be there or here and there is surety about your destiny. But the ones that will have the 2nd resurrection, you're OYO. Anything can happen. That's why they will be judged according to their works. Even Death and Hell was cast into the Lake before them. But the yardstick for humans is the clause, anyone not found written in the Book of Life. There is a reason it was said like that. In other words, there is a probability to escape the "death which God Himself will administer to spirits"- which we call the 2nd death. All is needed is your name be found in that Book. Whosoever, God won't look at faces. Not everyone is a "Lake" material,the scripture in Revelation mentioned the category of those who will partake in the 2nd death. Since Revelation is the realm of the sealing times(check 20:5, maybe they lived again after the thousand yrs. Just drawing attention to something there,I won't talk abt that). These are the category:

Rev 21:8: the fearful, unbelieving, abominable, murderers,whoremongers, sorcerers, idolaters and all liars. These are the category of people that shall be a partaker. Know that those are spiritual terminologies, it is beyond the works of the flesh. No..;just look at them again. I will summarize it.

-Fearful(cowards, those who doesn't want to lose their life-which is a lie and want to save it)

-unbelieving-( believing a different way,shortcut-they don't believe in overcoming(Life of God)

-abominable(hateful to the Truth which is Life. Made Unclean by their love for the Lie which are according to the workings of satan)

-Murderers(beyond killing your fellow human being. These ones are those who annihilate Life of God in themselves and others- self suicide)

-Whoremongers(beyond being a fornicator or an adulterer. Those who are pleasure seekers of another Life that differs from Truth. They love the pleasure of this present age.)

-sorcerers(beyond practices of magic. Those who sorcerize with their soul. High wisdom of deception. Not physical magic.)

-idolaters(beyond graven image worship. These are simply worshippers. Those who shall worship the way of satan. Who have the might to carry out satanic agenda.)

-Liars(beyond literal lying. Those who lived a lifestyle different from Truth. John 14:6)

So, this is it....maybe, maybe not..someone with a higher revelation can disprove this. The yardstick is with Him but the categories are mentioned. Maranatha.

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 9:13am On Jan 06, 2015

Sarahn:
They have included it.
Just got my bank account added.

Haven't withdrawn yet.
Cos I am too chicken to try...

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 9:12am On Jan 06, 2015

Bestlyf:
Yes, you can.

thanks

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 9:04pm On Jan 05, 2015

okay. can i also receive payment into the account while i wait for the card?

Bestlyf:
The last time I checked Nigeria was not among the countries listed for this service. Don't know if they've included it since this year.

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 6:24pm On Jan 05, 2015

Has anyone tried the new feature introduced by payoneer maybe it works? Transferring directly to local bank account. Anyone, mk82?

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 2:55pm On Jan 04, 2015

^^^ it is possible if you are going to outsource it and reframe it to suit your own taste but I personally don't venture into such and I don't rush things. Since you may have other job, maybe 3wks or so is okay. And it will be quality, when the books you churn out coz u want to make some quick cash is crap, people will start avoiding you on kindle. If you want to make a career out of it, you have to be patient and write good books that will be reckoned with. Either fiction or non-fiction: whatever is worth doing at all is worth doing well.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Morning Star ? by twosquare(m): 1:21pm On Jan 04, 2015

Emmafrancis:
Please my christian brothers and sisters. Help me to understand who exactly is the "morning star". As with regards to Rev 2:28

My friends have argued that the morning star refers to lucifer. But in other passages this title have been use clearly to refer to Jesus.

Jesus is not just the morning star but the bright morning star. That is this Jesus you see is superior to the morning stars. The morning star is not only Lucifer (now known as Satan), there are many morning stars but this one is bright-meaning He is superior to them. Morning stars are the first class of angels that were created. They're also called sons of the morning. So it is a title that belongs to the angel of the the 3rd/1st order(in the ascending order/descending order).

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 10:19pm On Jan 03, 2015

wisyno:
Hi All.
This is a great thread. Thumbs up tO everyone keeping it real here. I just registered an account in amazon. Please, how do I download free kindle books in the KDP? I wanna download some books and go through them.

just select the genres you want and go through some of those books( the ones with $0.00 are free. It has been a while I went through the site to know if they have filter to determine your search for books.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 9:36pm On Jan 03, 2015

frosbel:
But you believe that demons are in hell tormenting souls and you believe that Rev 20;13-14 is talking about two hells ??

May your eyes be opened one day.

cheers.

where u take see two hells I dunno o grin

maybe demons don't even exist... Don't you think so frosbel? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 9:28pm On Jan 03, 2015

frosbel:
I am confident in telling you that you aint got a clue on what the gospel is about , talk less of salvation.

Ask me to educate you...

hehehehehe...I have studied ur position on these things, so don't think I don't know your stand. Rather than ask you to educate me, I rather connect with kingdom men like Paul, Peter, the Boarneges- men who have overcame. Sorry mate, I don't listen to nightingale.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 9:14pm On Jan 03, 2015

frosbel:
What is the gospel ?

Let's start from the basics.

sorry am not in the mood to go on endless arguments of which I have known ur position already. The gospel definition and ur doctrine of happy ever after, no one loses..blah blah...frosbel, it is high time you relax, settle down a little and spend most times in prayer concerning the path you're venturing.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 9:01pm On Jan 03, 2015

frosbel:
Brother how can you save others when your theology is upside down ?

What is the gospel, what is the purpose of God for mankind all through the ages etc.

Stop disseminating regurgitated and dispelled fables, seek and find the truth.

This is the main reason why the gospel being preached in Nigeria is mostly dead, almost no one responds and the ones that respond and try to use their brain are kicked out of the ~~churches~~ synagogues.

and how sure are you that ur own doctrine is upside up grin

? The more you use ur brain rather than your spiritual senses, the more liable you're to the manipulation of seducing spirits. And you should know, you're a fallen man and your brain won't help you in matters higher than you grin

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 8:39pm On Jan 03, 2015

PastorOluT:
Understood from the scriptures the differrent btw Hell n lake of fire, bt in d same Revelation u quoted Hell is given up d dead in it for destruction (in d lake of fire). So anyone that finds himself in d present Hell will definitely end up d Lake of fire which is the second death.

NB No one is ever going to move from Hell to Heaven, this has been done before when Jesus died n went to Hell He gave all d opportunity to enter Heaven.

Revelation 20:14 Then death and Hades ( [d] the state of death or disembodied existence) were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

Now, let me first say that I am not God to decide who shall partake of the second death; the standard which He will use is yet to be revealed to me. But this I know, books will be opened and the dead will be judged according to their works. Probably the judgement there is the decision among the heavenly council and whosever (God means it. Whosoever) is not found in the Book Of Life will be thrown into the Lake before Hell and Death will follow. For Death is the last enemy that shall be defeated.

Now, this you should know. If we are to make it simpler: Heaven,Kingdom of God, Hell, Lake are real. This is the main thing. Entering Heaven is not the concern of the Father but He wants people to enter the Kingdom. Heaven is so spacious and bigger than our earth in a million fold. Making(entering) Heaven doesn't make you a conqueror, but entering the Kingdom makes you one. I am in Earth pastorOluT, but am not in the Kingdom of the earth. Am just a citizen. So if I by pardon I leave kirikiri, and I enter the world where people live in comfortably in America. That doesn't mean am in the Kingdom of America, am just living in the sphere called America. Infact I will be of the lowest cadre being an ex-convict.

Thank God you understand Yoruba lang. To make you understand, I want to speak to you in a native tongue. When you hear Kingdom, think of governance. "Ijoba" is Kingdom, "ijoba" is also government. "Orun" is just Heaven. Now "ijoba" means "ijo awa(awon) lobaloba". That is the congregation of princes, kings, nobles, priest like entities. So,I may not be counted among the folks there, coz I treated it with disdain when given the chance on earth. I won't be at the helms of affairs nor be among the rulers and kings in the world to come. Even this present Heaven christians are running to will perish later, it will wax old and God Himself will destroy it. But His Kingdom abides ever.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 8:07pm On Jan 03, 2015

[quote author=frosbel post=29461941][/quote]u know
u and I have thrashed these things out over and over again and not only with me, but with others on this forum. So, I'll say stick to your belief but when that time shall come, you will know I speak the truth. And sorry, I don't come to it by theology and most of what you're even saying you arrive at it via research
regurgitated by fallen minds on the internet. Let's hold unto peace..see you in Heaven.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 7:38pm On Jan 03, 2015

PastorOluT:
This is a very good topic n such making fp n not some with baseless arguements.

twosquare has said so much bt there is much more to be said which I dont even know where to start from. If its possible I will enjoin the op to get the book The spiritual man by watchman Nee for better understanding.

@twosquare u have done so well, bt I will like u to clarify the issue of Hell being a temporary place?

this is the reason...Hell will still give up those held captive there. The present people in charge of that place are demons and they're the tormentors there. Hell is a prison yard, just like Kirikiri in Nigeria. So when people die and goes to hell, they enter into torment. As mentioned in Revelation 20:13-14, you'll see that what men are experiencing right now is hell, Lake is yet to come. Evil spirits don't fear hell, it is natural habitat but what they are afraid of is Lake of Fire. It was a design orchestrated by God and imagine what will torment(pain) a Cherub(satan), should men be a partaker of such? So, the reason they want to delay their end is because of Lake of Fire, not hell and you can see the two are different and higher than the other.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God A God Of Only The Jews by twosquare(m): 6:49pm On Jan 03, 2015

frosbel:
I believe in ONE God and all that , but one thing really nags my mind.

The old testament scripture hinges on Israel/Judah as a nation and the implications for the entire earth. God used them as a blue print for the rest of mankind to follow , but Israel and Judah failed woefully to achieve this objective.

Since it appears that God was almost exclusively Jewish in the OT scriptures, and the Jews mostly were rebellious ,what chance did other nations have of salvation since in most cases they never heard about the ONE God, or if they did he was called him by another name with smaller gods placed besides him.

Based on this opening statement , a few questions ;

- Are other nations inferior to the Jews
- By what standard did God judge the other nations ?
- Was this standard different to the standard for the Jews
- What if they never heard about God in Jewish terms but knew him by another name, does this mean they knew the one true God
- When Jesus said he came only for the lost house of Israel, was this racist ?

Bible students needed for a useful and healthy discourse.

God is the God of the whole universe. And to answer your questions...
- in the times of the old covenant, yes they're inferior to the jews. Why? Because inferiority is when you don't know God; for unto the Jews were committed the oracles of God.

- nations once knew God but changed the truth of God into a lie and worship the creature instead of the Creator. Conscience is used to judge them because the laws were not given unto them as unto israel. Paul explained this sha. And remember Balaam wasn't an israelite.

- Luke 12:48

-yes, balaam wasn't a jew, the midianites wasn't a jew, the moabites isn't. Yet among them we have folks who knew God. And God respond to them.

-No, His assignment(primary) is to make the house of israel see the kingdom of the Father and when they do, the whole earth will be greatly blessed and they the israelites will understand Him better for unto them were given prophecies and directions of what should be done. God will attend to His friends first. Romans 11:12-15.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Become Holy? by twosquare(m): 6:33pm On Jan 03, 2015

Preciousgirl:
i want to live a holy life
blameless before GOD
Please help me

holiness comes by obedience to the truth. Do you want to be holy? Pray to God for two things: sight and strength to obey the truth. That's all.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 6:14pm On Jan 03, 2015

efficiencie:
but bro wait first let me give an instance, a new dude that was in church yesterday, heard the sermon, got convicted, said the sinner's prayer (as it is called) and starts the so called journey to the salvation of the soul but today he visited his neighbor's wife who happens to be alone and is very 'hor.ny'. One thing led to the other he 'browses' another man's wife and while he's at it the husband bursts in, catches the unfortunate dude, pulls out a loaded gun and 'bam' 'bam' 'bam' the new 'convert' bro drops dead...

Where would that brother wake up?
a. heaven
b. hell

meaning he died in the works of the flesh. I'm not God to know if he can't help himself or it is a wilful act. What if God says heaven or hell...He is yea and amen...and may enter heaven but he won't partake of the Kingdom. So, does that mean we should all continue in the works of the flesh? Nay, don't stretch ur luck too far, you may end up where you don't want. And everyone will know what u've done, and the shame will stay for long. Grace can save.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 5:24pm On Jan 03, 2015

efficiencie:
so a convert undergoing the salvation of the soul that
dies in sin would go to heaven!!!

Wow! No wonder we have many that sin in the church... Okay, i'v got your view.

to die in sin is a different thing. And I mentioned where I said hell is for the disobedient ones and there is no where I said someone who died in sin is heaven bound. Salvation of the soul is beyond your definition of if someone dies in sin or not. That's isn't my business, my business is even if that person doesn't make the "perfect man, full stature" , he will still continue his course in heaven.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does The Salvation Of The Soul Take? by twosquare(m): 4:23pm On Jan 03, 2015

efficiencie:
The question is: How long does the salvation of the Soul take? Does it take place instantly as opined by John Crowder in ( http://www.thenewmystics.com/Articles/1000129594/Home_Page_of/Articles/Sanctification_is_Not.aspx ) or does it take an unspecified period which may be for a lifetime as posited by Erwin Gane ( http://www.sabbathfellowship.org/biblestudies/erwingane/biblestudy_gane_sanctify.htm )

If you can read the two articles, please do and share your views and while you are at that answer this question too:

If a convert undergoing the salvation of the soul dies in sin where would that person go?

a. Heaven
b. Hell

Please choose an option first and explain your choice.

how many years the salvation of the soul takes depends coz our experience varies and ability(strength) to yield to the Truth differs. It may take 15 yrs, 20yrs, 30yrs, it may take 50yrs or beyond and you may not even complete the process if you're lackadaisical about it till death comes.

Heaven, the thief on the cross is just an example of someone who hasn't undergone a bit of the salvation of the soul. Infact that one na narrow escape. To enter heaven is easy just like entering our earth domain. All u need is to give your life to Christ. But such a person won't enter the Kingdom. Hell is another dimension I don't want to venture coz they are meant for the disobedient ones(a temporary abode of punishment). But this you must understand...salvation of the soul is not about escaping hell or making heaven. Christ has saved us from the condemnation. It is about upgrading the soul to the consciousness of what the spirit has become. The spirit is CHRIST, so also the soul has to become one. Salvation of the soul is operating at the same level(frequency) your spirit is operating and this can be made possible by continuous obedience to he Truth.

The blueprint which the salvation of the soul entails is what the Father wants was spoken through Paul in Ephesians 4:13(underlining the word perfect and full stature)

James was writing to believers and urged them to continue so that they can attain this state.James 1:21.

Salvation still continues in heaven even if you haven't finish your course here...

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Lucifer Aka Morning Star by twosquare(m): 3:43pm On Jan 03, 2015

Ignorance at its peak

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by twosquare(m): 11:45am On Jan 03, 2015

Born-again can still sin. Their spirit is sinless and has become CHRIST but their soul needs to come to the pedigree&status the spirit attained at new birth. By the obedience to Truth, sin will be dealt with totally. Sin is beyond works of the flesh and there are somethings that are good to us but are sin to Him. Getting born-again is just the beginning, like a student just getting admission to the university. Sin we have to be removed totally(which already has) but the consciousness of you conforming to that which has already been done in CHRIST will take the operation of the sprinkling of the blood and constant washing.

A born again is simply someone who has given his life to Christ. The epistles which are the materials for saving the soul of every born-again(believers) were written to those who are already born-again, not to those who doesn't know CHRIST. Yet they're still rebuked by the Apostles for certain sins or the other and urged to move onward to perfection; casting away the works of darkness.

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Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 5:39pm On Jan 01, 2015

henrimoto:
happy new year! Bro. It's not possible. You will need the use of a third party here. Since its not a domiciliary account.

wow, thanks bro. Happy New year. Any contrary opinions?

Business › Re: Making Regular Income Publishing Amazon Kindle Ebooks by twosquare(m): 4:41pm On Jan 01, 2015

I want to inquire from you gurus(Sarahn , mk82) in the house and anyone with experience with international monetary transactions. My question is this:

Can someone send money to my savings account from abroad(U.S) and will I receive it without an hitch. Note: I'm not talking of having a domiciliary account. I don't have. I use GTB savings acct. So will I be able to receive it directly without the use of 3rd party services like Western Union,Money gram and the likes.

Phones › Re: How Much Did You Spend On Data Subscription In 2014 ? by twosquare(m): 11:49am On Jan 01, 2015

eedris07:
Jst 1k per month.. Na bcoz of subcriptn I neva chnge my BB bold 4 sef.. All dose Android fones na GBESE

me too ported to blackberry curve 7 at the 3rd month of this year. Like I use to tell my friends, android subscription fit build petrol station grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do 'so Called' Born Again Christians Go For Deliverance? by twosquare(m): 1:45am On Jan 01, 2015

idumuose:
Intellectual gibberish and crap that is not capable of transforming life.

That is wht they teach you at the theological schools and seminaries.At the name of Jesus every knee bows whether it is a manual demon nothing wey person no go hear for christianity.
People like you are the reason why Nigeria isn't progressing inspite of our prayers.

Go to UAE and see progress even though they are predominantly muslims.

Go find out why China,Malaysia,singapore are making progress and stop this false teachings that will never lead to our economic growth.

SMH and weeping for you. What is progress? So, what you see as progress and you can decipher as being progressive alone are better roads, economic growth, better light...you're of all men most pitiable!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do 'so Called' Born Again Christians Go For Deliverance? by twosquare(m): 4:46pm On Dec 31, 2014*

asalimpo:
^^^
I never implied casual approach to problems was how to tackle them.
I simply said, the Word of God is more than enough to handle any situation any1 faces.

The advancement of the west and backwardness of africa:
the backwardness and primitivity may b spiritual, but tht not all. We hav a hand to play in our depravity . What class of thoughts do the blacks entertain?
While the white man concentrated on what is electricity,what is matter, can man fly like a bird, what makes an apple drop wen ripe? Seemingly mundane and foolish thoughts to the blackman, the Africans and blacks were thinkng baser thoughts.
Even today, has the trend changed? No.
We as a nation and race are responsible for acting on the thoughts we have. Nobody can force u to think or act on something without ur will.
Again, I am tryg to reset this mindset ppl hav tht the devil is so powerful to wipe destinies at his will,he isnt.
Fyi, china was an isolated continent for centuries,yet it didnt decay and rot mentally like africa? Why?
because china thought on higher things. So many inventions are credited to d chinese. China was already a highly advanced society by the time the west visited it.

when I talk of beings, am not going in that dimension you're taking it to just as "alive" can mean two different things. Yea, they know the scriptures but they don't can't obey it. They know the truth coz they have handled it once when they were still alive. And man's is after the likeness of God, not the exact image of He who sat on the throne coz Man was meant to come into a higher image which is the exact. He is just a photocopy, a shadow. If he is, then Christ doesn't need to come and he won't even be defeated because what an image entails is beyond facial resemblance.

And I insists all of them are faith beings bcoz Faith created them and they too operate by it...that's the difference between a flesh and a spirit. When I speak of faith, am not talking of the one you use in connecting naira and kobo. That 's too low. An energy of living/life.

Satan believed he can win God even though he saw those prophecies of old. But God didn't go through their doorway to defeat them...He didn't do it by strength and they don't know the Messiah will die by cross and resurrect(that's a top secret with the Father). Even when they saw the cross, they all saw it as foolishness and laugh that is this what God wants to use to defeat them. All what God did was just to go to the Department of Foolishness and launch the missile in their midst and see if they can recognise it but they couldn't. The formula of their defeat was given by the Holy Ghost.

And talking about advanced nations....who gave those nations thoughts? Do not think all are from God. If you don't know, you will today...humans are not the one in charge of knowledge, spirits are. They open up the eyes of nations that can carry out their agenda and as they please they give "wisdom" to them. The scriptures mentioned "inventor of evil things", most advanced nations are already in this and it take a mighty hand to take them out. Principalities are in charge of these nations(including Africa) and they gave each nations what they should be thinking(philosophies, rudiments of this world). Go and study the scenario of the King of Tyre and Prince of Tyre(I think in Ezekiel's book). When I talk of thoughts, envision courses being charted for races by this beings (that's why I said there are cadres and demons are errand boys). A cherub can chart a course for your life and you will never recover from it and it will take the operation of the face of Yahweh to pull you out. These fallen beings of the higher strata as mentioned in Ephesians 6:12 are the ones driving the ship of every nation and wherever they say they should go, they follow. And I ask a question that what is darkness? rulers of the darkness of this world. What is that darkness they are ruling? Where are those thoughts coming from? The spiritual wickedness in high places are the projenitors who designed the software called "darkness" and handed it over to the others. In other words, the operation of darkness which are also thoughts is high...very high and it is spiritual wickedness. It is wickedness you can't see with your naked eye. And it is being perpetrated. Look around you bro, just take a look at those western nations and see what they are becoming. Ephesians 2:2 should strike some thought.

Do you think if they want Africa to be developed in the next 5yrs they can't? It takes nothing for God to change governance but when you see a nation becoming an idol to the world, God will bring down such nation just as God crumbled Tyre. When you see nation building high rising(spiritual connotation), run....their land may be green from afar but it is sodom. The principalities over there are even deadly than the one over here in Africa. That's why to cast out a demon is easy but to attack the operation of the spirits of this cadre isn't. Pls understand this...it is easy to deliver a sis from a demon oppressing her than to change the thoughts of a guy who have become an hater of God. Even if you shout at him that the demon of disbelief inside him should come out..:he will just laugh at you and tell you u're sick even though he is the one that needs help. Such operation that is holding sway over his mind is beyond the abilities of demons.

I remember a father of mine preaching to a briton, that he should accept Christ,that Christ wants to live inside of him...u know what the briton said? "Can He pay rent". So, if am to talk to anyone, there are some things that even deliverance ministers can't deliver people from because they themselves are cursed with the same curse and that's why I said the other time that the greatest deliverance that can happen to you is to even deliver the man who is delivering another person from demon. This is not deliverance by laying of hands. Those are manual. It is deliverance by revelation(opening of the eyes). Because the spirits in the "air" are once angels of His face and what will take away the curse is the unveiling of the face of God not the operation of His hands like He did when He was Master in Nazareth.

The coming days are not a battle of prayer but a battle of thoughts, knowledge and wisdom. Christ have His own Thought, so also satan. And His thoughts will take captive every thoughts that are anti-God. The coming days are not the battle of physical strength but how wise and knowlegeable in the spirit because these spirits won't come by gra gra, they will come by a flood of deceit, and give men their own thoughts which will make them to be anti-God. Demons won't be the one running show in the coming days but those bad guys who fell from the 3rd and 2nd heaven. They will turn the hearts of men by speech and as they are speaking to men(coz they're beings of knowledge and wisdom), another image will be forming in men and emerging. But what shall save men is the Knowledge of the Son and learning how to walk with the angels of knowledge who shall give the appropriate revelations to beat the devil. Selah!

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