Mbakuthegreat: Because Africa would prosper with kenya tribalism and corruption and corrupt rulers who will sell kenya to the first bidder. I wasn’t surprised that the kenya was infront of the lgbtq movement in Africa, kenya is where all corrupt deads start and then transported to the rest of africa. All those thousand western NGOs doing gods knows what to docile kenyans. Low IQ kenyans are even taking vaccines from NGOs for which they don’t even need which is why there was news about kenyan women being given vaccines which sterilized them, there is a war against africas population growth and you are blindly accepting whatever your enemies gives you while your IQ is too low and you think they are there to help you.
Mbakuthegreat: That is good, and i hope you are not expecting me to compare with Magufulis construction of new Airports and expansion of old ones in Mbeya, Dodoma, Kigoma, Tabora, Shinyanga and Mtwara. Expansion of ports in Kigoma and Expansionof Dar port and 5-Construction of Stigler gorge Hydroelectric power Dam 2115 MW, since they are two different countries with different needs? Alright. Now how much have Kenya indebted itself within the years since Uhuru came into power? Weren’t we all reading just some weeks ago of Uhuru going to China to beg for loan so they can finish the SGR and indebt kenya even more? It wasn’t enough being close to lose the Mombasa port? Tanzania is financing its own railway system.
In 2016, according to Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission and National Treasury reports, it was estimated that a third of the national budget was lost through corrupt dealings annually. Kenya loses approximately 1 trillion shillings to corruption every year.
Dont make the mistake that i wish kenya illdeads i don’t, a strong kenya is a strong eastern africa and africa overall, but i also see the reality in things which is that Magufuli is a far better president than Uhuru Kenyatta, and actually uses his brain.
Corruption is a major problem in kenya That is why president uhuru kenyatta is fighting corruption at the moment Kenya borrows money because we are able to repay Mombasa port will never be taken even the Chinese ambassador to kenya denied those reports
Mbakuthegreat: First tell me about the development that Uhuru did in his first 4 years?
Sgr Rural electrification programme Free maternity for women Construction of roads Jkia upgrading Huduma centres which has bring govt services close to kenyans etc
Mbakuthegreat: And thankfully Tanzania had a high IQ president(leader) who cares for his countries develpment, more than i can say for african the rest of african rulers(not leaders).
Tell me what development that magufuli has done that uhuru kenyatta has not done.
theenchanter: first of all.... Africa is poor because u're told that Africa is poor. Our pattern of life is quite different from developed nations lifestyle and they use their lifestyle to judge africa. An old man in an African village is seen as a poor because he doesn't spend some money and lacks some basic amenities but that same old man can afford to feed himself, his family, send his children to school and everything he want to do, he's actually not poor by africa standard but seen as poor by....
Secondly, most african leaders are reactive and not proactive when it comes to economy n leadership, they let IMF and World bank dictate their monetary affairs.
Mbakuthegreat: Its because Tanzania is an emerging economy... Use your brain for god sakd. Also Tanzania first took the route of socialism with Julius Nyerere which failed but managed to achieve unity and a non corruption culture. This is exactly what will help Tanzania achieve greater growth than thw rest of Africa, and i promiss you that Tanzanian economy at its height is going to be larger than kenyas. Again Tanzania is an emerging economy. Kenya also has bigger GDP than DRC but DRC has barelly getting started and it will surpass Kenya by a mile once it get its act together, it has all the ingredients to do that, first the bigger population and then resources. How are you people able to remember to breath with such low IQ?
Kenya is also an emerging economy Kenya is also growing So you think Kenyan economy is at standstill waiting for Tanzania to overtake us or DRC to overtake us You Tanzanians are deluded
[quote author=Acadavah post=78773497][/quote]And kenya is arid 89% Some parts of Kenya had gone months without rain and kenya is mostly arid so you know what will happen
Acadavah: It will be a disaster but our government will not ignore that there is no disaster and I would not deny that there is Hunger crisis like you have done.
Our government didn't ignore the hunger crisis although long term solutions are needed
You president John magufuli once banned food aid to hunger stricken tanzanians remember
Problemkid1: What kind of foolish question is that, ehn? Is that the reason of the starvation in your country, ehn? He showed you something of this year and you're telling him that we're in May. What kind of stupid excuse is that?
Because we are in may and no one is facing hunger in kenya
Mbakuthegreat: I’m not surprised now why kenyan women are marrying mzungus and fleeing kenya... Their men have low IQ. The only reason kenya is developing is because it does deal with everyone where it gets crumbread as benefits while a leader like Magufuli will wait for the deal to work in Tanzanias favour before signing it and we’ll see in the long run who wins. He gives me hope for atleast Tanzania. For Africa to prosper we will need to have IQ test on who can hold top positions, majority of africans will fail and thus we will get the exceptionals.
Please tell me why Tanzania is still poor despite having a huge population , alot of natural resources , huge arable land , peaceful
And kenya which is poor in natural resources, 89% arid , tribalistic , corrupt is better than most african countries
Acadavah: There is so much corruption in Kenya. People(leaders) who have been given responsibilities by their own people have neglected them. Imagine 1million people are in hunger crisis and it take citizens through Twitter to pressurise their leader to help them.
Don't start on that So Tanzania doesn't experience hunger despite having huge arable land compared to kenya
How a low IQ question of you, you cant even think far enough to know that you will never be able to achieve and mantain a high GDP per capita unless you can protect yourself from external threats. The reason africa is being looted is because of low IQ africans like yourself. What China did after the communist party took over was to close its border, organise itself with a military and only opened up once it was able to defend itself with military power. Africans on the other hand have low IQ which is why so many coups have been successful in Africa. Maybe the lybians were thinking like you and thought that their high gdp per capita was going to their living standard from external threats.
@tylann
Where did i say that, in every comments your low IQs keeps failing you. To quote my earlier comment ''Development always comes with good leadership, its not a matter of how big the population is. You can have low population and poor development, high population and high development(Japan(or China)), vice versa.'' and ''A bigger population give rise to a bigger variety of better leaders and a bigger population also has a higher chance to overthrow bad leadership than a smaller one.'', which you see its hard in places like Gabon to overthrow the dictator but it it happened in Burkina Faso where the big young population came together and also in Sudan with its big population. In China, their revolution 70 years ago was because of the high unemployment(had a population of 500 million people then), but today they have a strong leader which has uplifted them out of poverty and they see how things have changed for the better, going from one of the poorest countries in the world, to become the superpower it is today. Most chinese support its government.
Africa needs good and strong leadership as simple as that not huge population
Mbakuthegreat: And you africans with low IQ think that africa can achieve high living standard without a strong military or economic power to protect that high living standard... You don't learn, africans are the only people who don't learn from history while everyone else do, its all due to low IQ. As i keep saying remove black africans from africa and watch it boom, hell even give africa to the people in north africa and they will make it prosper, just as long as they are not black africans. Black africans make africa the dark continent with their low IQ.
Yes countries like DRC , nigeria , tanzania etc are under performing
Countries like Mauritius, Seychelles , Botswana , Namibia are doing well without strong militaries and high population
Acadavah: That's why you have debt 52.6% of GDP( est 2017). Kenya has poverty line of 43.4% while Tanzania 22.8%. Unemployment rate of 40% while Tanzania has 10.3% . My source Indexmundi
indexmundi ranks Kenya's poverty at 43.4% as for 2012 get an updated information
Mbakuthegreat: Its not insults, low IQ is the biggest threat to africa and not the the west/foreigners, they have just managed to use the low IQ at their advantage. Again, if you read what i wrote China was as poor as any african countries or even poorer 70 years ago. They had 500 million plus population, more than what Tanzania have and didn't have any infrastructure they do today, they built everything you see today. Shouldn't it be easier for Tanzania with lower population than China had? Your low IQ fails you. According to the World Bank, more than 500 million people were lifted out of extreme poverty as China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 6.5 percent in 2012, do you know how they did that? With high IQ which africans don't have and is clear from this comment section.
Believe me i know about Deng Xiaoping and his reforms in China And i also think the west fooled you that africans have low IQ
I give up, low the african low IQ will is too prominent for any kind of conversation of values, you cant even read what i'm writing instead spewing your low IQ answeres without even debunking anything of what i wrote about the links between population and economic and militaristic power. Keep thinking that living standard matters and see another Lybia 2.0.
Low IQ is the doom of Africa, and i don't see why i should be joulous of a corrupt tribalistic state such as Kenya, I dont care about kenya, i came in this conversation since some low IQ africans were spreading western propaganda about Magufuli.
Mr low IQ Most countries are not worried about military power and economic power Countries are worried about improving life of its citizens not power
Magufuli is torturing opponents and your are saying it is propaganda Magufuli is denying pregnant school girls education and your are saying its propaganda
Mbakuthegreat: Low IQ fool, did you read anything of my long post? Logic isn't something easily achievable with low IQ... The reason Africa is poor is because of low IQ and not of big population, tell that to Japan or emergin economies such as China. Low IQ africans like you are the reason why Lybia 2.0 will happen still thinking living standard matters... Economic and military power matters.
Mbakuthegreat: Low IQ fool, thats because they already have a big population.... Did i say we need to procreate 10 billion people? And they have removed the policy because it has started to effect them economically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7jIjmLyWs
Can't you have straight discussion without insults China is rich compared to Africa They have necessary infrastructure to support the huge population A country like Tanzania having a huge population will only mean poverty nothing else
Low IQ fools use your brains. Africa is the most underpopulated continent in the world, DRC is half the size of Europe, so its Europe which is overpopulated, now imagine if our lands reflected its population? We would have strong economic and militaristic powers in Africa, which is exactly why they the west doesn't want Africas population to grow while at the same time making sure that their population grows by taking in migrants and paying their women to have more kids. Living standard doesn't matter, economic power and militaristic power matters. While Botswana has a high living standar(and rising gdp) it will never be able to come up to the economy of that of a bigger population like Nigeria or to its militaristic power. Botswana differiante from the rest of Africa and its neighbouring countries. Botswana was a protectorate and was not colonized by white people and it found its minerals after independence and is one of few african countries with nationalized minerals. The reason Botswana has maintained it success of high living standard is because foreign governments didn't put its mind to infiltrate it successfully and import revolution, poverty and hunger unlike in many other African countries, and Botswana is a story of good leadership. Look at Lybia, it used to have one of the highest living standard in Africa until the west overthrew Gaddafi, now the country is shattered with war, poverty and hunger. Living standard didn't matter as long as they didn't have the capacity to defend themselves, Lybia has 6 million people.
In every continent the countries with the highest populations are the ones with the biggest GDP and Military. The biggest economy in Asia is China(1.3+ bilion people) followed by Japan(120+ million people), India(1.3+ billion people), and Indias economy is rising quickly and will surpass Japan eventually because its still an EMERGING economy. Indonesia with 260+ million people is rising quickly also and if it remain it stability, the order of Asia top GDP in the future will be China, India and Indonesia. Japans population is declining and they are thinking on taking in more migrants to maintain their economy, just like countries in europe are taking in migrants and paying their women.
In Europe(not counting in trancontinental countries such as Russia and Turkey) German has the highest population(80+ million) and also the highest GDP. It is followed by France and U.K which have the next highest populations(both 65+ million), and the next 2 highest GDP. Italy has the 4th highest population(60 + million) and 4 highest GDP, then spain has the 5th highest population and 5 highest GDP.
In South America its the same, Brazil has highest population and highest GDP, followed by Colombia and Argentina whom also follow the next highest GDP after each other. The same in North America. U.S has the highest population and highest GDP. Mexico has the second highest population(120+) and is a country filled with corruption which creates disfunction to the economy but still it has the third largest GDP after Canada(37+ million), closely behind. It will easily surpass Canada if it gets its act together and become stable.
So i hope you see a pattern now, and see that it shouldn't come as a surprise why Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa, all while its politically unstable. Also the reason why China will surpas U.S.A economically it thankly due to its high population which gives it a big advantage. China already work as one unit and they can quickly make economic reforms which in U.S takes time.
The reason Nigeria can be deemned as Africas saviour is because of its big population, it has the ability to become Africas superpower and defend Africa and help it develope. But that is only if it get its act together, along with DRC. These two countries can be Africas salvation. I can't emphasize enough how important population growth is for Africa. Botswana is almost twice the size of Germany but only has 2 million people while Germany has 82, if Botswana with its current form of stability had the population of Nigeria it would be a world power military and economically. Low population is one of the reason the French colonies are still being looted by France, in Burkina Faso it was the big young population who went together and overthrew the puppet president but it's much harder in Gabon with its low population. The more people you are the more you will demand control of your resources. In the french colonies its not the africans who control the resources but french companies which is why you don't read about african billionaires from these colonies. The french president has been going around spreading propaganda that africans are overpopulating the world because it will be harder for them to continue looting Africa with a bigger population who will demand control of their resources.
A country like Botswana would never be able to defend itself from the west because it lacks any kind of power, it just has high living standard. Poverty is a bigger problem in U.S compared to Luxemburg(600 thousand people), Luxemburg has the highest living standards in the world, but unlike U.S, Luxemburg is not a superpower, whether economically or military. Botswana will suffer economically because of its low population just like many europeans are doing right now, it won't be able to mantain its economy and living standard because it will suffer an aging problem faster than the rest of Africa and it will either need to take in migrants to mantain the GDP and living standard or find another way to higher its population.
A bigger population give rise to a bigger variety of better leaders and a bigger population also has a higher chance to overthrow bad leadership than a smaller one. In China, their revolution 70 years ago was because of the high unemployment(had a population of 500 million people then), but today they have a strong leader which has uplifted them out of poverty and they see how things have changed for the better, going from one of the poorest countries in the world, to become the superpower it is today. Most chinese support its government. Development always comes with good leadership, its not a matter of how big the population is. You can have low population and poor development, high population and high development(Japan(or China)), vice versa.
South Africa is the legacy of apartheid and when the whites took their land the tribes weren't millions and they weren't united, today they have increased their population and are right now fighting together to get back their land because its many of them. In Namibia they are not as vocal because they are a low population. Its much harder for foreigners to come in a country like Nigeria with over 150 million people and control all their resources because the people would ''eventually'' start an uproar, the bigger population you have the more the people are going to demand control of their resources which S.A is demanding right now. The reason Nigeria has one of Africas biggest army is because of its population advantage and it has one of the highest GDP not because it is an economically superpower in Africa, its all due to its big population, because bigger population creates higher GDP since it means more workers. Imagine if Nigeria got its act together politically and lowered it unemployment, it would surpass all European countries economically because it has a population advantage.
Botswana has no power, only high living standard. If the west attacked Africa right now, what power would we have to defend ourselves? Botswanas inpact in helping Africa stopping the war would be nothing compared to a country with lower living standard but a bigger population like Kenya or Tanzania. Use your brains for god sake. Do you people even know what the ''catch up effec'' is? Read about it: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/definition/catch-up-effect
Low IQ is why Africa remains poor, if you remove africans from africa and replace them with any other non africans it will prosper.
Verbal diarrhoea It is not all about military power and economic It is about the quality of life of it is citizens Countries are worried about standard of life of its citizens
rvp2018: That is nonsense. Population structure matters more than the number. I have no problem if China are 1.5B people - as long as they've got the right kind of structure - meaning few and well-spaced kids for families to be able to manage it. And that we can only do by providing men and women the tools to choose when and how to have kids.
The best countries in the world are not the USA or China - they are the smaller Luxemburgs, Switzerland, Qatar, the UAEs, Singapores, Bruneis- those are countries where nearly all citizens enjoy a high quality of life.
In Africa - Mauritus, Botswana, Namibias and Seychelles enjoy high standard of living - with say a primary school teacher buying a nice little new car on his first employment date.
US or China may be a powerful country - but who really care about power - when they have so many poor people living in tents or streets - or food aid.
The guy doesn't know china had to adopt population control to stop population explosion He is busy following magufuli order to breed
Acadavah: True, I think they should include GDP nominal which is the good measure of Economic growth rather than GDP ppp. Kenya higher GDP nominal compare to Tz but Tanzania has less poverty compare to Kenya.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 6:13am On May 28, 2019
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China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 6.5 percent in 2012, do you know how they did that? With high IQ which africans don't have and is clear from this comment section.