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simpleseyi:
Get Rich or [b]Die Trying. [/b]But make it legally.

Those who are showing fake pity are the same one who will mock you if you don’t succeed

If you died trying to get rich, what then is your gain? 🤨

Queengee:
He should come and vote tinubu like his brothers come 2027 and join us to enjoy tinubu good government we have been enjoying for the past 3yrs

Whom do you consider "his brothers" if I may ask?

iykepromotions:
From Elon Musk. Not late to dive into dot SI domains or keyword + SI. I've bought some including nuw.si and still buying. Get some if you can. Buy and hold for now.

Was about to share Elon's tweet. The hype is to the roof right now.

tranxo:
Gemini has an app. You can use that.

Thanks. I thought as much; just couldn't bother because I only use AI as needed. ChatGPT is actually my default AI tool and I use Grok mainly because of its integration into the X app.

Congrats to all the recent sellers! Aywhy93, you're indeed the "Man on fire" right now - as AllLovingGod put it.

And if there's anyone here still looking to "risk" registering a .si domain, you may check out the attached to see if they fit your preference. They were available as at the last time I checked them, but I do not have more money, patience, and risk-taking appetite for more at this time. Do your due diligence!

As edoman2016 rightly pointed out, .si domains are more of a hype right now and not best for beginners or people who have not turned a profit in this business. It's just that some calculated risks may pay off, plus this extension is way cheaper than .ai. I don't own a single domain that would cost me $15 or more to renew at Dynadot presently.

iykepromotions:
Another easier way to get end users, decision makers emails using chat bot. I still prefer Grok. At the search box, type Eg ; "I own the Domain ImpactWindowsDirect.com and looking to sell it. Help me get potential end users for it and their email address" results will be out. Reach out to them.

Following up on this. I finally had the time to give this a try last Friday - testing both ChatGPT and Grok.

My conclusion is that both tools are better combined and manual searches would still be needed to add some more leads. For the particular domain, ChatGPT returned 11 leads with at least either an email address or website address, while Grok produced 8. Some leads from each tool was missing in the output of the other.

I would have loved to try Gemini being Google's own, but I was too lazy to find its interface since I have never really used it as a standalone tool like the others.

flotwz:
Information translate to wealth in domaining.

Dot si (Super intelligent) extension may witness a boom just like ai.

You can do your research and if the information is valid. Pack as much as possible.

Nice share! Thanks.

I explored this TLD last year after reading some posts on X, but I wasn't impressed. But with this hype I can finally try out a couple at least.

If to say sales dey flow now, I for register at least around 10.

aywhy93:
The moment you renew, they go into "should we just buy it like that or wait again till next year" mode.

They cannot really "buy it like that" o because I usually hike prices once I renew.

I got the offer for the domain I referenced previously in the morning of the very day I had planned to extend the registration further and hike the price. I waited for some days to see if the lead would up their offer to just under 2/3 of my old asking price, but they delayed. Up the price went!

aywhy93:
Thanks a lot bro! I don't really consider views. I mostly reduce the price when I want some actions. I usually keep myself engaged (domain-wise) by buying names and building my portfolio, but when I'm not buying domains (e.g. spent whatever budget I have), I get bored, so I just reduce prices on some of the names. That way, I can get busy buying names again if anyone sells.

On this particular name, tbh, I wasn't keeping an eye on it until the offer came in. It's not in my top 50 most viewed domains, but during the offer/negotiations stage, the views increased a lot.

Congrats on your banger sale, chief. Me sef tap into it.

Regarding the bold, I have noticed this repeatedly as well. Made me wonder whether Afternic hoards the views information. For example, I noticed in the offer section after receiving an offer that the domain had 175 views while the portfolio view count was 7. And I don't think that was the all-time views because I usually track monthly views above certain threshold.

By the way, I also get bored when I'm not researching domains but I have to restrain myself. Renewals are top of mind.

AllLovingGod:
Good morning @all.

Please receiving payment from atom? I'm asked to fill either w9 or w-8 form first.

Please which is more advisable and how does it work?

Finally, is there any app I can use to e-fill the form and sign the signature and forward to them without the unnecessary printing out, filling, scanning and all that?

Thank you.

I have never received any money from Atom. But, if they insist that you fill out a form, go for the W8. It's for individuals who are not based in the US and so not required to pay income tax in the country.

You could try the steps suggested by Rankett for completing the form. Alternatively, you may print out the form, fill it out, snap with your phone's camera, and send - might not cost more than 2H to do this.

Edited: Saw you already found your way out on this. I replied directly from my mentions.

Just heard the news on Wazobia FM this morning. What a good OAP he was! Used to listen to his evening programme years ago.

May God have mercy on his soul and grant him eternal rest.

iykepromotions:
works fine and makes you more professional. Some end users will never take you serious with a free Gmail. No big protocols in set up. Just make sure the domain is registered at Spaceship then follow these steps; https://www.spaceship.com/knowledgebase/setup-spacemail-email/

In addition to this, you can actually use a domain name registered elsewhere for Spacemail. You only need to set Spaceship's default nameservers for it.

I have not done any outbound with Spacemail. I only got a hosting plan there last month for my "experiments" and they happen to use Spacemail addresses instead of the traditional cPanel email addresses for hosted domains.

Greenscientist:
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OCEANS7:
This isn't exhaustive (domaining is ever-evolving).

This is an overview of domain flipping and investing.

This is STRICTLY for beginners. As you gain experience, you can evolve.


Step 1: Know What to Buy

(Beginner advice) Do not buy random words or your own invented brand names. If you are starting out, you need to buy names that already have obvious buyers.

Stick to the Geo-Service Model.
Format: `[City or State] + [Service].com`

* Good: MiamiPlumbers.com, TexasLandscaping.com, DenverRoofing.com
* Bad: SuperFastPlumbers4U.com (Too long, has alphanumeric pattern)

The Radio Test: If you say the name out loud on the radio, will people know exactly how to spell it? If yes, it’s a good name. Avoid hyphens, numbers, and easily misspelled words. Always stick to `.com` when starting out.

Step 2: Research the Name

Before you spend a dime, verify that the name actually has value or useable potential on the internet.

1. Check DotDB.com: Type your keyword in here. It tells you how many other extensions (like .net, .org, .co) are registered for that exact name. If a name is registered in 10 other extensions, the .com is highly valuable.
2. Check ExpiredDomains.net: This is a search engine for domains that previous owners forgot to renew. You can find older names here that already have some history.

Step 3: Register the Domain for Cheap

Never overpay for a registration. A standard `.com` should cost you around $10 or less for the first year.

Go to Tldes.com. This is a comparison tool that shows you which registrar currently has the lowest price for the extension you want.
Once you find the cheapest price, create an account and buy the domain. Popular, reliable registrars include Spaceship, Namecheap, and Dynadot.

Step 4: Set Up Your Storefront (Sales Lander)

When someone types your new domain into their browser, they shouldn't see a blank page. They should see a professional "This Domain is For Sale" page.

1. Create a free seller account on platforms like Afternic, Sedo, or Atom.
2. Add your domain to your account.
3. Change your domain's "Nameservers" at your registrar to point to the marketplace. (The marketplace will give you the exact nameservers to copy and paste).
4. Now, anyone who visits the domain can buy it directly from that page.

Step 5: Hunt Down the Buyer (Outbound Marketing)

You can wait for buyers to come to you, but if you want to make money fast, you have to go to them.

If you own AtlantaPaving.com, go to Google and search for paving companies in Atlanta. Look for businesses using terrible, long domain names (like: JimsPavingAndSonsAtlanta.net). These are examples of your targets.

Find the boss: Never email `info@` or `support@`. Go to LinkedIn or use a tool like Hunter.io to find the email address of the CEO, Owner, or Marketing Director.

Step 6: Send a Simple Pitch

Business owners are busy. Do not send them a long essay. Make it short, punchy, and clear.

Subject line: Atlanta Paving

(Sample body text)

Hi [Name],
I noticed you operate in the Atlanta paving space. I currently own AtlantaPaving.com and I'm looking to sell it.
I'm reaching out to a few local firms before listing it publicly. Let me know if acquiring this asset is something you'd be open to discussing.
Best,
[Your Name]

Step 7: Price It Right

You bought it for $10. Don't ask for $10,000. (this advice is for beginners).

For quick outbound flips, price your domains between $299 and $999. Why? Because this amount is low enough for a business owner to put on a company credit card without needing to call a board meeting. It makes it an easy impulse buy.

As much as you can, try to let the buyer make the first offer if possible, or price it 20% higher than your actual goal so you have room to negotiate.

Step 8: Close the Deal Safely

It is unsafe to send a domain to a buyer before you get paid.

When a buyer agrees on a price, create a "Buy It Now" link using Afternic, Atom, or Sedo. Send this link to the buyer. The platform will handle the secure checkout, take their small commission, and ensure you get paid safely.

Important Note: The 60-Day Lock
When you register a new domain, ICANN (the internet's governing body) locks it for 60 days. It cannot be transferred to a different registrar during this time.

If you sell a domain within its first 60 days, you must do a "Push."
Simply tell the buyer to create a free account at your current registrar (for example, Spaceship). You can then "push" the domain from your Spaceship account directly into their Spaceship account. This happens instantly and completely bypasses the 60-day lock.

A detailed guide you have here, chief. Well done!

However, I won't really say people shouldn't send emails to "info" and "support" email addresses. Those are all you have in some cases, even after doing your best to find those for specific individuals. Some owners even provide such generic email addresses as their own.

I'd send emails to such addresses in cases like that. Just that I might not follow up at all or more than once for "support" email addresses.

Yes, messages sent to a company's relevant decision-makers are the best!

If I may ask, what is the intention with the email template by including "before listing it publicly" after already setting up a sales landing page?

Congratulations to James39, written007, Greenscientist, and all recent sellers! More sales. And thanks for sharing.

Na that alma-health name hit me the most. I couldn't dare price any of the few hyphenated domains I have that high. Maybe I need to assess things again.

SOLD

Name: Mobile//Notary//Irvine [COM]
Price: $299 (offer, excluding fee)
Type: Inbound
Venue: Spaceship
Source: ED
HT: ~2 years and five months

Glory to God!

I didn't plan to renew this domain this year. I did so rather reluctantly after realising I once got a $150 offer in the first year via DAN. That person rejected my counter-offer of $200 and everything went quiet since then.

Another reason I decided to renew it was because it's still registered in three other extensions as it originally was. Otherwise, I don't like registering or holding domains of this kind anymore - three-word geo ending with a city name.

Got an offer of 250 (my minimum) on a 544 BIN - this was 680 at Afternic. I needed money or motivation very bad, so I say make I just add 100 bucks and counter. I would have even accepted the initial offer, but I play by the "rule" of never accepting first offers.

However, after checking that other extensions were still taken, I countered with 399 instead. Buyer came back with an offer of 299 while also covering Spaceship commission.

All thanks to God. More sales for everyone!

bizbro:
Can someone do what you do with startup capital of $600? @U1 @gpexchange @humblemax

I don't know what I do that you're not doing o. Na the other guys you fit ask because they're getting better results. Whatever you think I'm doing, na God o.

It is possible to start with that amount, especially since I believe you're already making sales. So, you have an idea of what could work. You just need to keep learning more and taking calculated risks with what you learn.

A capital of $600 will get someone almost 80 .com domains at Unstoppable, as of now. If you know what you're doing, coupled with God's blessing, you will certainly recoup your capital with profit with that number of domains. Patience may be needed, though.

It is important to have another source of income if starting with that amount in capital. That will help sustain you while working and waiting for a sale. As you make sales, reserve part of the proceeds for new acquisitions (and renewals).

It is more advisable, in my opinion, for anyone with that kind of capital to focus squarely on ExpiredDomains. All my sales so far have been from there (or generated/coined) and, strangely, I find domains from ED easier to price high than those from Clouseouts/Auctions.

@Oshiofe and written007, congratulations on your sales. More wins!

MrSamsung:
So for example, if the total cost is $22, you are only going to pay $21, right?

Yes, this is more like it.

Using renewal or transfer cost as example, if it is 10.88, it becomes 9.88 after applying the code. The code is valid for every single order worth at least $2, according to them.

The promo will end today (7 July), going by provided information.

Oshiofe:
wonderful! you mean you added about 11 domains in your cart and $1 was deducted for the eleven names?

Yeah...if I understand you right. That is, if you added 11 domains to the cart together, only $1 will be deducted from the total amount.

So, I decided to process each order (domain) separately - one by one.

For those who might not know, Dynadot is offering $1 off 11 orders through 7 July with the code DYNA11M. I wanted to share this yesterday when I saw the email but forgot while trying to complete tasks at hand.

I think it should work for all orders - I used it for renewals and transfers.

Note that you may need to process each order separately; that's what I did. It only deducted $1 from the total cost when I added multiple domains to the cart.

Just saw the video on Arise TV. Pretty impressive!

I had to search to find out the name because I felt he's more likely to be from the eastern part of the country. I was right. I respect Igbo people for things like this.

Thought I should leave this here for those who might find it useful.

If you haven't started using AI for aspects of your domaining business, consider doing so. We've heard about how AI is coming for our jobs - it has practically "killed" my previous online gigs. So, we may as well see what we can get out of it.

One of the ways you can adopt AI is for your domain research or selection process. Many of us have limited budget for acquiring new domains while there may be numerous domains calling for our attention. We can use AI to simplify this process.

One approach I started using this year is to ask ChatGPT to rate my shortlisted domains on a scale - for example, on a scale of 5 (could be 10 or any one else you prefer) - based on their resell potential. The tool will provide ratings for the domains and reasons for them. It may also suggest prices.

You then run some (or all) of the same domains through Grok and also add that it should provide valuations for the domains. It may be better to use Grok integration in X because I found it sometimes cite comparable sales reported there. You could ask it to provide both quick-flip and retail price ranges.

Finally, compare both the ChatGPT and Grok responses to determine the domains that probably has the most potential. Please note that you still need to use your own intuition or experience to select some domains that these tools may occasionally rate low.

I hope someone finds this helpful.

2sexycom:
Has anybody here ever tried to build a website on a domain name and flip it via outbound instead of just doing bare domain flipping?

Or do you know anybody who has tried it before and succeeded?

I tried it in 2024 and again last year. It didn't work.

I decided to bring one of the hosted sites from 2025 back this year while attempting the rank-and-rent/sell or pay-per-call model since I still had hosting. But I discovered I needed to still do significant work to meet the requirements for the niche and acceptance for PPC, so I just changed the nameservers back to a marketplace this month.

I didn't even like the domain in focus much because it's a three-word, reverse geo (KW+city) domain. That's part of why I decided to just pull the plug.

I still have plans to try again sha if I have more free time, especially with tools like ChatGPT available to simplify the process.

UrVillagePpl:
This place seem quiet. Make i drop small update for here.

Atom dot Com is currently running a hand-reg brandable domain, that if bought will automatically qualify for a premium listing.

What it means is that when you purchase a domain from atom using the link below, it becomes a premium listing in Atom.

More importantly, do not rush and buy.
Do not go on a buying spree.
Make sure you do some research to ensure you're not gifting atom urgent 2kay.

I'm pretty sure you'll see something that works, coupled with atom premium exposure, sooner than later it will result to a sale. Amen

May God grant us success on every side.
Cheers

(Atomdotcom/hand-reg-deals)

Kindly remove the bracket

Thanks for sharing, even though I will most likely pass.

Never had a single sale on that platform. Finally had to delist the remaining Premiums I had there plus most of my standard listings at the end of March. Five years is a long time to not have sold anything - I even had about two sales on Sedo during that period.

They wouldn't even accept PayPal for payment for the introductory .com registrar offer months ago, so I skipped it altogether. 🤨

SOLD

Name: Happy//Pets//Shop [COM]
Price: $693
Type: Inbound
MP: Afternic
HT: 3 months
Source: ED

I switched the lander to Spaceship last month along with many others and increased the original Afternic price from 599 to cover the higher fee.

This domain was taken in 3 or so other extensions. But I didn't quite like the plural form and I have never managed to sell a domain with the "shop" keyword - even those I consider to have better potential.

I already had plans to renew and increase the price at renewal all the same despite not being bullish about it - especially after I noticed a double-hyphen version will searching for leads two Fridays ago.

I wanted to outbound the name last week, but I got the email address of only one of the strongest leads. Na so I abandoned the mission as I never sell a single of the domains (even better ones) I don outbound since January till today. It sold Friday.

All thanks to God and more, better sales for everyone of us.

Vikkoh:
Congratulations Bossman 🥂.

What inspired you to pick this name?
Checked and to be honest, if this name was offered to me for free I wouldn't accept it.

I'd love to learn from you.

Even though no be me you directed the question to, think "alloy."

SOLD

Name: The//Power//Home [COM]
Price: 1688 BIN
Type: Inbound
MP: Afternic
Source: Brainstormed
HT: 6+ months

Thanks be to God for this!

I got the idea to register this domain along with some others while researching how I could circumvent HugeDomains bots' attention when bidding for expired domains around October. An idea that I saw in one NamePros post led me to further research, since I still had access to UD's $5 .com pricing then and so I could experiment.

This was among 2 or 3 highest-priced domains in the set. I couldn't tell why I was a bit bullish about the name, except maybe I go back to my records. I don't usually price domains I am experimenting with high in the first year.

Good luck and blessed week ahead for everyone.

Congratulations to ANTAX99, written007, James39, and other recent sellers on your recent sales. I'm amazed.

Harllaby:
Here is a general and quick way to HR/ pick ED domain without stress.

0. Any domain or keyword with Google pages full of sponsor ads grab the domain and think later... lol

A. NICHE FILTER (Must pass 3/4)
i. Average job value $1,500+
ii. Ongoing / repeat demand (if it's emergency eg rook leak or plumbing)
iii. Businesses already running ads
iv. Keyword causes visible pain (awkward URLs, poor rankings)

❌ If it fails 2+ → SKIP

B. GEO FILTER
Tier 1 or Tier 2 city
Commercial activity visible
Multiple operators (5+)
Market not price-sensitive

If city feels “quiet” → SKIP
hack: specialist medical and law niche are ONLY for Tier 1 cities else OYO.

C. DOMAIN STRUCTURE CHECK
i. Clean read in one breath
ii. No hyphens / gimmicks
iii. Obvious service + geo OR strong brand geo
iv. Passes “would a business owner use this?” test

If you hesitate reading it → SKIP

If you can’t visualize a buyer → SKIP

I will stop here don't want to go deeper... of course there are always exceptions.

Top tiers 1: Texas (Dallas, Houston, Austin)
Florida (Miami, Tampa, Orlando)
Arizona (Phoenix, Scottsdale)
California (selectively)
Losangeles newyork miami dallas houston sandiego sanfrancisco DFW chicago atlanta phoenix Scottsdale McKinney Westchester

Mid-tier 2.
Austin nashville tampa orlando fortworth denver seattle sanjose sanantonio lasvegas scottsdale irvine orangecounty sanmateo oakland (All construction and handyman agbero)

Tie 3: smaller or less competitive cities
columbus cincinnati cleveland indianapolis milwauke stlouis kansascity minneapolis pittsburgh detroit louisville

Applied knowledge is what distinguish a winner from others.

regards

Thanks for the info, boss.

Personally, I will knock out Dallas or Houston to put Austin in somewhere in the top tier. I will also replace Westchester with Tampa. Experiences differ.

@edoman2016, sorry about the loss. I can't imagine how I'd feel right now if I were to lose such an amount. Morale go just disappear for some time.

This, perhaps, explains why I only limit local fintech apps to conversion or special purposes and Grey is the only one I use. Laidis I don't have up to $10 in my Grey account and I last used the account for a few GoDaddy Closeouts back in February.

If you are so disposed, I'd recommend you consider having or using a Payoneer or Wise account instead as your main account going forward - especially if you don't mind extra fees. I'd especially recommend Wise if Grey was the only account you've been using for receiving your proceeds - they're more cost-friendly than Payoneer.

Jimneighbour:
Long time since I last posted here.... more to come sha

HT: 15 days
Method: Outbound
Result: Sold after second follow-up

Honestly, I probably could have held out for more, but a win is a win. Grateful for the sale.

On to the next one

Congrats on your sale! This is massive.

It's interesting to see you get a sale this big via outbound. I wouldn't send an email if I priced this high to avoid explanations that might not fly. Outbound don do me something.

Wealth355:
Senior man no vex ooo
If I were at Ur levels I'll not be celebrating sales below 1k
at Ur levels you done suppose leave geo domains teytey
You should in dsame level with them abdul basit
The boy way you tutor, I da very sure you no da near his current levels now
Leave your comfort zone bro
**

Na Iyke taught Abdul Basit? I hope no be Abdul Basit Makrani sha.

If outbound dey work for me like Iyke, I go dey do the same thing. I still dey send emails to end users steady laidis but no sales.

There's hardly any week I don't reach out to end users. I am not discouraged by the lack of sales from outbound because I do this more to raise awareness, after which I lock up. Those kinds of so-called low sales that Iyke sometimes reports would have been good for extra motivation if I had them.

Till tomorrow, if I see a geo domain with potential, I go still register am and do outbound.

Vikkoh:
Bossman what was the inspiration behind picking Use///Ember?

I'd say the inspiration was probably gpexchange - who, by the way, was also a major inspiration for hiking some prices towards the end of last year. I had my first sales higher than $1,888 (one-time payment) after that hike.

One of gpexchange's sales reported here was Get///Calico (or something like that). I found out from my readings that companies sometimes turn to alternatives like that if they can't get the main keyword - Calico, in this case. Some companies who even have the main keyword may also want variations of it.

I also found out that "use" and "go" were among words that were sometimes used, apart from "get."

I'd have priced the domain much higher but for the low-value comparable sales in Afternic records and the fact that the .co was forwarded to a coffee business. Plus, the domain was registered the previous year and dropped.

StarchAndBanga:
Big congrats

Out of the 400 .xyz u registered in 21/22 how many are u still holding now?

Thanks.

I renewed about 85 of the 400+ at least once. I only retained the dozen that I renewed last year and dropped the remaining. Even, I think more than half of those renewed were registered from 2023.