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Christianity EtcRe: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by udatso: 4:27pm On Jul 23, 2016
Okd1:
We all want an answer you might convince us all and we might all just convert an become Muslims.
From your post it doesn't sound like you want answers....BTW am not interested in wasting my time to even try to convert you and your group
Christianity EtcRe: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by udatso: 9:18am On Jul 23, 2016
true2god:
I saw this in page 175 of this book and Muslims can help explained if what the prophet said here is scientific or mere
superstition:

Narrated Abu Hurair a: The Prophet said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:509

Allah Likes Sneezing but Hates Yawning:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, satan will laugh at him."
Sahih Bukhari 8:73:242.

I need a good Muslim to explain this to me please. I might become Muslim if I get a good response from Islamic scholars in nairaland.
Like you care for our answers. A newbie in this game would think you sincerely want answers. But we know you.

Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 6:45am On Jul 23, 2016
johnw74:
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

God said to the Word "Let us make man in our image"

false jw said God is talking to Angels
however Angels are not in God's image
and Angels are not God as verse 27 shows the us to be


"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God"
"our image" verse 26 = "God's image" verse 27
God and the Word = God

and of course John 1:1 also shows that God and the Word is God
You seem to believe that it's only Jehovah witness that don't believe in the divinity of Jesus. That's not true. Let's take Nairaland for example, annunaki doesn't believe in Jesus Christ being God and he isn't Jehovah witness either.
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 6:42am On Jul 23, 2016
johnw74:
it appears you don't believe the Isaiah prophecy
I don't think anyone is to interested in your silly argument
I didn't force you to reply me. Besides this question was no longer directed to you but to someone else. So feel free to run away or find a reason not to reply me. My believing in the prophecy isn't the issue here.
if we Christians call Him everlasting Father in this time then [u][b]I'm sure His Disciples in His time did also[b][u]
So why is it so difficult to bring forth a proof from the Bible of Jesus been called the everlasting Father in his time or by his disciples?
many call Jesus wonderful
many call Jesus the Holy Spirit (Counsellor)
many call Jesus The mighty God (even false jw's do)
First of all I am a Muslim and I didn't come here for a debate or to drag issues. I asked for a proof in the Bible of Jesus been called THE EVERLASTING FATHER.
IF it's not there, simply say it isn't.
many call Jesus The everlasting Father ( we Christians have been calling Him that in this very thread)
etc.
Yeah. True and it baffles me cos in his time he wasn't addressed as that that's why I asked.
open your eyes.
Eyes widely open except you are talking about the spiritual eyes
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 9:49pm On Jul 22, 2016
solite3:
your question is invalid because the prophet Isaiah has established the fact that he shall be called everlasting father except you want to tell me the prophet is wrong
For the prophesy to be true, there are conditions to be met. He will be called some names.
Is there a record of him being called the everlasting Father in his time?
Christianity EtcRe: Meet A Yoruba King That Memorized The Holy Qura'an by udatso: 9:44pm On Jul 22, 2016
jcross19:
even allah confirm it as a poetry right? Finished now you are talking.
Go back to secondary school if you can't understand that simple English
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Muslims Behave In Certain Manners?? by udatso: 9:21pm On Jul 22, 2016
As a Muslim, I think it's wrong stopping others from movement whether mosques or churches. But like someone said, considering the security situation currently, I think it's a necessity for now
Christianity EtcRe: CAN Condemns Lifting Of Hijab Ban In Lagos Schools by udatso: 9:16pm On Jul 22, 2016
Na only condemn una go dey do for life. If the matter pain una, make una go court just like mssn did.
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 6:21pm On Jul 22, 2016
Emusan:
I got you right perfectly.

This is your previous post



Here @underline, everyone knows what you're trying to prove which take us back to my question. So kindly answer.
I hate dragging issues so am going to do this one last time. First of all, that wasn't the first post I quoted him. The first quote is in the picture below .

In his second post he claims Isaiah called him everlasting Father and I said no that Isaiah prophesied that he will be called the everlasting Father. I then asked him to bring a proof where Jesus was addressed as the everlasting father which he has failed to produce.
He made a claim and I asked for evidence. I haven't made a claim and you are asking me for evidence
Be reasonable sir.

Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 5:23pm On Jul 22, 2016
Emusan:
Kindly, show me where the disciples also called Him Jesus Christ.
You are asking me to prove something I didn't say.
I asked him to prove what he said. Go back to the first post I quoted him and read through and know how we got here
Christianity EtcRe: The Fallacy And The Truth Of The Book "The People And Muhammad" by udatso: 4:39pm On Jul 22, 2016
crusadistic:
Lol... a child of hate and ibo bigot of the highest order enjoys discussing with open minded people.Even with his little knowledge of Islam,he's already discovered fallacies in the nonsense book while you keep flaunting its contents not caring if they are true or not as long as it satisfies your hate.
She is happy with any thing that defames Islam. Vituperations, lies. ...misrepresentation. ....she doesn't really care.
If a non Muslim sees falsehood in the book he is in trouble.
If a Muslims sees falsehood in the book, it's altaqiyya
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 4:32pm On Jul 22, 2016
solite3:
yes he shall be called everlasting Father because he was yet to come in human form.
Did the disciples call him the everlasting Father?
CelebritiesRe: 6 Nigerian Actresses Who Have Converted To Islam And Their Reason For Switching by udatso: 3:11pm On Jul 22, 2016
CelebritiesRe: 6 Nigerian Actresses Who Have Converted To Islam And Their Reason For Switching by udatso: 12:19pm On Jul 22, 2016
Drienzia:
We ain't bothered. Because even Koran stated that "if you find anything confusing here, you can ask those who read the bible. The truth is already revealing that"


Jesus was the only person that performed miracles in the koran. Muhammad was busy leading his followers to various wars, till he died.

The only woman mentioned in the koran is Marian"mary(the mother of jesus)
Koran said she went to heaven with her physical body. Meaning the assumption of the blessed virgin is written in the koran.

You people should come down from your high horses let me educate you about the koran you studied and didn't understand since you were kids.

Lots of Muslims converts to Christianity on daily basis, so cut the crap!!!

Koran said Muhammad is dead. And won't rise again.
Same koran said Jesus is the word of God.
And koran said God created the world through the word(Jesus).
They er just confused being. Surely they need our prayers...

Peace!!!
Go and watch the rebuttal of video you are getting your ideas from. Fake ex Muslim Mario Joseph
PoliticsRe: Corruption Charges Against Me Are Politically Motivated: FFK by udatso: 11:16am On Jul 22, 2016
As the giving of the money was politically motivated, so shall the prosecution be politically motivated
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 10:57am On Jul 22, 2016
johnw74:
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First of all, you should know that my aim here wasn't to question Christian docrines. If I wanted to, I could have opened a thread and invite you and your brothers to it.
My aim was to to examine the evidence of Trinitarians. What you have to say helps me when am in a dialogue with other Christians.

Secondly, when I asked that question, It wasn't in a collaboration with someone else. I simply asked you a question. So I can't really see the rationality in lumping me and someone else in your reply.
It's your choice to reply or not. But refusing to reply because someone else agrees with my other post is dishonesty in your part.

Finally, I can also bring similarities between Christians and idol worshippers but that doesnt make their purpose and message same.

Thanks for your time and am sorry if I offended you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Fallacy And The Truth Of The Book "The People And Muhammad" by udatso: 9:43am On Jul 22, 2016
analice107:
You mean like, migrating to UK like sheep, they allow you comfort, when you would have eaten and drank you rise up to establish sharia law there, when they resist, you kill them? Allah is a thief.
Best way to treat flies

Christianity EtcRe: The Fallacy And The Truth Of The Book "The People And Muhammad" by udatso: 7:53am On Jul 22, 2016
babajeje123
These penalties are mentioned here in brief merely to serve as guidelines to either judges or rulers so they may punish each criminal in accordance with the nature of his crime. The real purpose is to indicate that for any of those who live in the Islamic realm to attempt to overthrow the Islamic order is the worst kind of crime, for which any of the highly severe punishments may be imposed.

Looking at verse 34 we realise that

If they give up subversion and abandon their endeavour to disrupt or overthrow the righteous order, and their subsequent conduct shows that they have indeed become peace-loving, law-abiding citizens of good character, they need not be subjected to the punishments mentioned here even if any of their former crimes against the state should come to light. If their crime involves violation of the rights of other men they may not be absolved from their guilt. If, for instance, they have either killed a person, seized someone's property or committed any other crime against human life or property they will be tried according to the criminal law of Islam. They will not, however, be accused of either rebellion and high treason or of waging war against God and His Messenger.

I hope your questions have been answered?
http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=5&verse=33&to=34
Christianity EtcRe: The Fallacy And The Truth Of The Book "The People And Muhammad" by udatso: 7:49am On Jul 22, 2016
babajeje123
The 'land' signifies either the country or territory wherein the responsibility of establishing law and order has been undertaken by an Islamic state. The expression 'to wage war against Allah and His Messenger' denotes war against the righteous order established by the Islamic state.

It is God's purpose, and it is for this very purpose that God sent His Messengers, that a righteous order of life be established on earth; an order that would provide peace and security to everything found on earth; an order under whose benign shadow humanity would be able to attain its perfection; an order under which the resources of the earth would be exploited in a manner conducive to man's progress and prosperity rather than to his ruin and destruction.

If anyone tried to disrupt such an order, whether on a limited scale by committing murder and destruction and robbery and brigandry or on a large scale by attempting to overthrow that order and establish some unrighteous order instead, he would in fact be guilty of waging war against God and His Messenger.

All this is not unlike the situation where someone tries to overthrow the established government in a country. Such a person will be convicted of 'waging war against the state' even though his actual action may have been directed against an ordinary policeman in some remote part of the country, and irrespective of how remote the sovereign himself is from him.
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 7:18am On Jul 22, 2016
Jozzy4:
Lol bro, that's another poster entirely grin

the person I quote johnw74 said " Jesus is the Father of all . " emphasis on " the Father " .
That's true. That was another's. sorry about that. Let me edit
Funny enough THIS FATHER OF ALL(Jesus according to them) has a father too
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 7:11am On Jul 22, 2016
Jozzy4:
your earlier assertion was that Jesus is the Father of all . but now u have realized your mistake and that's why you correct yourself @ bold . cheesy

good , since you admit the Father of all doesn't have a Father . that means Jesus is not the Father of all and johnw74 earlier statement is wrong that Jesus is the Father.

therefore , Jesus is not the one God because he is not the Father of all.

according to the scripture , the one God is the Father of all . which UV admit is not Jesus !

have a nice day. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 7:08am On Jul 22, 2016
johnw74:
proverbs for one tells us the Word is from everlasting:
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

Ephesians tell us there is one God and Father of all:
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Malachi tells us the one God created us:
Mal_2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
^^^
One Father, one God created us, God and the Word - one Father and one God

John tells us that God and the word is that one God:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John tells us that Jesus made all that is made:
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.



Jesus is from everlasting

the one God is the Father of all

God and the word is that one God

the Word made all things, the Word - Jesus is the Father of all

It's not just Isaiah 9 that shows Jesus is the mighty God, the everlasting Father



Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Maybe you didn't get my question clearly. I didn't argue if he is everlasting or not. Neither if he is father or not. My point is Isaiah said HE WILL BE CALLED (meaning called by other people) the everlasting Father.
The question is where in the Bible was Jesus ever addressed as THE EVERLASTING FATHER?
NOTE: not proof of him been called Father or everlasting?
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 2:13pm On Jul 21, 2016
johnw74:
Jesus is the Father of all because
He made all, nothing was made that He didn't make

ofcourse Jesus and the Father are two diffrent persons
but as we know, the one God
and as God He can be called Father as Isaiah for one called Him smiley
Isaiah 9 was a prophesy that HE WILL BE called The Everlasting Father. Is there any record of Jesus been called that in the Bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Refuting Lies About Islam by udatso: 12:33pm On Jul 21, 2016
Demmzy15:
Bunch of confused mofos!
I tell ya
IslamRe: Fatima Was Angered by udatso: 11:56pm On Jul 20, 2016
Farmerforlife:
Your response is too amateurish to warrant a rejoinder. I assume that people who are discerning and think logically should be able to find the gaping flaws in your childish arguments without any input from me. I will only respond if I am asked a question by someone else, who is genuinely interested.

I also see that you have no intention of giving up your habit of partial quotation of narrations... tadlees.
Don't mind them. Your first reply is enough to clear out their consequent rebutals. So much flaws in their reply.
Christianity EtcRe: Refuting Lies About Islam by udatso: 11:33pm On Jul 20, 2016
Some people are just foolish and can't be helped. Someone just took his time to explain altaqiyya but an ignoramus still claimed he is still guilty of it.
If he is practising altaquiyya, why waste your time asking him to refute your baseless allegations if at the end if the day he will always be a liar in your eyes?
Pathetic huh
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 11:22pm On Jul 20, 2016
johnw74:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3990466_3984075postjpeg950159d21dbcc98bbd0e96e32e9e9edb_jpeg751cae9464417eec438930094c03bfa0

Jesus is often referred to as the Son, but not only as the son, I have posted many scriptures showing that Jesus is God
God is: God and the Word, John 1:1
Isaiah say's Jesus is the "everlasting Father"
and you false jw joz don't believe the Bible
and you know less than even lie lie barristter if possible, going on memory.



Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Is there any where in the Bible Jesus was addressed as the everlasting father?
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by udatso: 9:08pm On Jul 19, 2016
It's very hilarious reading people's post trying to defend Trinity. How can you call someone father but not the person Of the father when it's already established there is only one father.
PoliticsRe: See The Boldness Of Fulani Herdsmen As Cows Use Pedestrian Bridge (Photo) by udatso: 6:49pm On Jul 18, 2016
You guys should stop looking for issues where there are none. Is there a law restricting animals from using the bridge ?

IslamRe: What Did Allah Do In The Quran To Show He Is The Almighty? by udatso: 8:05pm On Jul 12, 2016
lexiconkabir:
If nobody had answered him, this thread will be irrelevant, pls brothers stop replying him, he is not here to get answers.
Wallahi you are right. If some of our other brothers had learnt to ignore him and his family, he would have been more irrelevant.
Sometimes because some have replied him, I am forced to comment
IslamRe: Why Did Muhammad's Name Appear In Hindus Scripture? by udatso: 1:05pm On Jul 12, 2016
malvisguy212:
their is different between answering and reply. I seriously wanted to know why the hindu God mention muhammed in his scripture, and even claim to empower him.
wink I am touched. Malvisguy212 really wanted to know.... Lol.
Please sir, we all know you don't learn Islam from Muslims that are full of 'taquiya' or 'Taqiya' (you guys know the better word) as you guys have branded us.
You and your brother truthmans2012 should go back to your anti -islamic sites and get 'sincere' answers from there.
IslamRe: Why Did Muhammad's Name Appear In Hindus Scripture? by udatso: 8:00am On Jul 12, 2016
Truthmans2012
Please stop quoting me. I won't honour you with a reply or a futile debate. You can call me or other MuslimS names as you so please. I don't give a dam*n about what you think of Islam or Muslims. You claim our religion is from satan, we are liars, we will burn in hell, .....bla bla bla. ......, it's all good. Now go and celebrate your victory

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