₦airaland Forum

femmoy:
if u don't know the beginning of an argument don't just jump at it, learn to mind ur biz OK?
he sent an attachment and I quoted Wat I saw in his attachment.
busy body

I repeat, does his post suggest that US is visa free to Mexico?



all these kids online these days

KingRagnar:
But Dangote is not the president, Dangote has not initiated policies or scheme that will develop the country all round, Dangote has not fought corruption head on, PMB can cause Dangote to lose half his properties if he wants to, so what exactly is Bruce's point

the question is why would a president want to use state power to fight a business man

it's behaviour and mentality like this that makes Nigeria a $hithole

caprini1:
Thanks bro,but that's way back,we,ve moved on to better things.

yes,i,m good.Hope you are doing great too?

yes o

moved up to greater things too.

BedLam:
it is not your fault and doesn't mean other nationals don't get pain as well. Trying being an India sometime.

you don't mean it

princfred:
Nigerians are at much more threat and risk from this government and their enabling of FH than from any white.

what is FH?

masseratti:
Why are stupid people all over the Internet especially Nairaland these days? All saying Danote is more powerful than Buhari are clowns and are not born during the Abacha days, as powerful and as rich as Abiola was the government of the day crippled his empire turned it to nothing, he who controls the arms control the power in any sovereign state, in ours its the commander in chief, that one shouting ŃSE will collapse if Danote business is brought down does not remember that Buhari didn't care in 2016 when the naira was kissing 500 to a dollar.

that is what makes Nigeria a gutter

Docile people and scared elite

you make Move like that in other countries, either the president is killed overnight, or impeached the next day, or even forced to resign


I n every sensible country, the govt is scared of the big business guys,(multinationals and all)

they can undo your govt if care is not taken

but niggeria? ??

caprini1:
Nna you are going to far with ibeto.....let me give you my small experience.

In the early 2000 ,we were importing finished furnitures from Dubai,making a lot of money and living large,we were the toast of boys in Lagos island,alaba international and Victoria island.........OBJ made import duties on finished furnitures 100%......we had goods already on the way ,bought with almost all our capital.....When the goods arrived we had to borrow money to clear them,sold ,ran into debts.....And that's the downfall of Dubai furniture imports at that time.

Just a single govt. policy and the business collapsed.

sorry about that nwanne

long time o

hope you are doing good

slivertongue:
dey wok hand in hand.In 3rd world political power is everythin bt in democratic countries economic power is sine-quo-non

exactly

it's only in $hitholes that a large number of people have the belief in the prospects of a president deliberately bankrupting a business man

it's the prevalent mentality in that gutter called Nigeria

In America on the other hand, the big businesses run the show.

Any gov't that does anyhow will be dealt with

Trump has given tax breaks and all to these big businesses

if he has done otherwise, he would have himself to blame

but Nigeria, everyone is following gov't and begging govt and is afraid of the gov't

gutter $hithole like Nigeria

rolling2430:
Buhari's hatred should not make Ben Bruce foolish. Dangote became wealthy because successive govts gave him backing and introduced policies that favoured him. They allowed him to have monopoly on so many business. A govt policy is enough to ruin and destroy his business empire. Power anywhere is above money

no government ever have dangote monopoly over the importation of anything

All of you are just rehearsing all the rubbish that has been spread around


Govts have given him concessions, yes, especially due to his risk apetite and the economic nature of Nigeria

but to say he was a sole importer of anything IS A BIG LIE

coolscott:
How has he held our country to ransom. The only thing one can observe from your comment is the popular rancour expresses by the have-nots towards the haves.

The popular disgruntledness felt by the poor about the rich

exactly

profmallor:
If he tries it AMCON would take over his businesses and in less than a month, no one would remember Government is running his show. There are a number of big businesses in Nigeria that have been taken over by Government. All these Billionaires have a thin line between wealth and nothing. But Dangote has done well, we won't fail in Jesus name.

amen

positivethought:
With the enormous international business connections n interest Dangote represents, even with his presidential power buhari will be digging his own grave trying that,ibeto is not in the league of Dangote,in fact even Tinubu buhari can't dare,what just happened in Lagos in the name of APC party primary n the national party executive having to kowtow to Tinubu despite the claims of buhari intervention clearly shows that.

help me tell them o

He can cripple others but not dangote


An attempt will have disastrous consequences

bettercreature:
He is very wrong! No one knows Dangote outside Nigeria.Everyone around the world knows the president of Nigeria

who told you no one knows dangote outside Nigeria


what you will say is that he is relatively unknown in the western world

in Africa, both Anglophone, Francophone and even Lusophone countries know him

So don't say what you don't know

Lordave:
And Dangote can choose to shut down operations and lay off workers, thereby rendering the labor market unnecessarily saturated with unwanted labor force.

How is that good for Buhari and his government?

that is what people are not seeing


An attack on dangote will be seen by the international community as persecution

Job losses in the numbers

balance sheet of big banks will also be in trouble due to the heavy loans they have given dangote in their books

The NSE will be in the gutter

Foreign investors will flee and those who want to come will change their mind (if the govt can harass dangote, is it we foreigners he will not harass?) look at mtn and multi choice


the ripple effect will consume Buhari

zlantanfan:
This just clarifles this man is truly dumb, dangote is not that spectacular in business, he has only been a beneficiary of a monopolized government collaborated structure which has aided him since inception.

He is a beneficiary of the northern conspiracy (which exist from political power).

Remove this government power from Dangote and see him crumble like he did with his noodles at open market

another person talking rubbish

WawaIPODJew:
Too many kids on Nairaland ,they will still disagree with you . Lol.
Can you imagine not less than 10 people have quoted my post to argue with me

give policy is the only way that a govt can ruin a business man
but when you have a dangote that is operating in almost two dozen African countries and produces a lot of content locally, it will be suicide for any gov't to bring him down

.The main way the govt can ruin dangote is via the "anti trust route"

fortunately for dangote, we don't have such laws in Nigeria but in the USA


Not that the gov't cannot try, but the consequences will be grave

Mobsync:
Is Murray Bruce now licking ass? Is he now saying Dangote is honorable?

Dangote and honorable are two words that should not appear in the same sentence.

Sorry man, Dangote has no form of honor in him. He is one of the crony capitalists holding this nation at ransom.

Crony capiotalism (using padi padi to get concessions and lucrative government contracts) is one of the banes of middle income countries like Nigeria.

Crony capitalism leads to unfair business advantages, destroying competition and causing monopoly, which Dangote enjoys today.

And unless the nation involved destroys that crony capitalism, it will never rise past the middle income ceiling. It will never become a high earning nation like the US and every other first world nation in the world today.

Screw you Murray Bruce. Dangote is not honorable and he is not powerful than Buhari either.

Dangote got his money and power from the government and that same government can crush him.

see another one

donstan18:
Leave the hatred we have for Buhari for now and be honest. The guy said the truth, Buhari can make Dangote go down a bit, he has the power.

Ibeto can testify what a president can do.

ibeto was just a petty importer

you can't compare ibeto with dangote

Buhari, or any other Nigerian president can try to wound dangote by cutting some concessions he gets, but that president will be done for when the consequences of such act unfolds....


with the weight dangcem pulls in the NSE, unsettling dangote group will send the NSE index to the gutter.

it's mission impossible

mannycrown:
Compare the boldened above and the boldened below: Where you said you were in the US. Are you making a mistake or omission?

you have spotted an inconsistency

drakeli:
I agree with the op 100%. If anyone asked why are Mexicans fleeing to the US? I am in the US and based on my own opinion and experience. Virtually all Mexicans and South America’s fleeing across the US boarder don’t have good education. Hence they find it difficult to survive in Mexico doing menial jobs when doing the same menial jobs in the US gives them an edge. The Op is educated. He teaches English in a good school according to him. This is what gave him an edge over Mexicans because it’s very hard to see a Mexican that speaks English unless he grew up in the US or has been there a long time. Most of them don’t speak English. Hence the reason he is doing well in the same Mexico that uneducated Mexicans are running away from.

On a warning note. There’s no pathway to legalization for people crossing the boarder from Mexico into the US. Don’t be tempted to follow that path, because you will be illegal in the US for the rest of your life. If you like, marry 100 US citizens. No legalization for you because you jumped the boarder.

not always the case bro

I spoke to an immigration lawyer some time back *a Nigerian immigration lawyer practicing in the U.S. anyways*

according to him o, once you are married to a US citizen, all sins are forgiven

I.e. as long as you use a sharp immigration lawyer

femmoy:
from ur post, it shows that visa is required to visit the US. why arguing bro?

did his post suggest US is visa free to Mexican citizens

read before commenting biko

femmoy:
it's impossible, Mexicans can't travel to both US and Canada without visa, I stand to be corrected.

Canada is visa free/visa upon arrival for them

I saw it in one of thrse Trevor shows

benpedro:
Mexico is a very beautiful country with happy people. People smile at you everyday unlike Nigeria where everyone is fuming . I have been here for more than 3 years now, yet I've never come across any form of racism, instead I'm being treated like a king(one of the reasons I always want to run back to Mexico whenever I'm in the US where white people give you that dirty look) . The feeling where your pupils want to give you coins so as to touch your hair, where adults want to take pictures with you and their family and the guys in the bar want to relate with you and invite you to their table to drink for free. In my second year as a teacher in a big private school here in a very rich neighborhood, I was promoted as the coordinator of all the foreign language teachers in the school (over 20 of them and most of them Mexicans) after I helped their secondary school students won their first ever state English debate challenge trophy. In Nigeria, the job would've been given to the principal's concubine or a family member

LMAO @ principal's concubine

But on a serious note, that's how things are run in Nigeria

[quote author=BiafraIShere post=71800083][/quote]from your moniker I know your mentality and state of mind already
So I'm not surprised

BedLam:
And to crown it all, he said Nigeria names don cast. Dude! I've been to some really nice countries and people are always fascinated when I say I'm a Nigerian, your whole deamenor matters a lot and what you do entirely.
People Re always willing to know more and never be ashamed to say I'm a Nigerian! Nothing is worst than denying your own existence.

Being a Nigerian has caused me some pains when out there, so I get his point.

Though it's not good to deny your heritage, (which ill NEVER do) but hey.... that tag

Geenosko:
Balance of 400k is more than enough to apply for visit visa. Use ur statement

Are you sure about that
I don't think so o

wisdom4today:
Wow. Too bad.

However, only those who trade short term will be affected or loss money.

From my experience, invest in stocks for long term, not short term. That's how to make it.

Also, diversification is key when it come to investment.

Try to diversify with mutual funds, money market and treasury bills and bonds.

See HOW TO DIVERSIFY YOUR INVESTMENTS.

you are wise

This blood letting will continue for a while

its so so sad

LordAdam16:
Dude, you should read more if you rarely "see" or "hear" Asians complain about racism. They do. And whether it is in America or the Middle East, they get discriminated against. The difference however is that as you said Asia is gradually becoming a high-income continent.

The China-US trade deficit is over $300b. The size of our economy is around $500b. Japan, China are two of the top 3 economies. Unemployment rate in Hong Kong is less than 1%.

But here's the thing, while Asians complain about racism in host countries. They don't treat it the way blacks treat it, because they themselves don't feel inferior to the whites. Blacks do. Blacks blame the whites for virtually every problem they face, whether in Africa or in North America. Asians don't have that time.

Japan became the second largest economy in the world in the same time it took Germany to become the largest economy in Europe. Both countries lost the second world war. The Japs see themselves as peculiar people, like the Germans and Jews do. To become a Jew you only have to have Jewish parent, to be a true Jap, you have to be born by two Japanese parents and raised in Japan. Japanese are racist to fellow Asians and even half-Japs. 1 in 3 tourists encounter racism in Japan.

So you can't be racist to a racist. Do you want to talk about the Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Malays, Thais, Vets.

Blacks do not deserve respect. Individually, yes; and if you excel in personal undertakings, many people with racist tendencies will even accept you; case in point the Black politicians in Italy and Russia winning posts, a mixed Black Jap winning a beauty pageant in Japan (they aren't accepted in the entire country, but they get by). But collectively, as a group, we have done nothing to deserve respect.

We can win as many prizes for individual achievement out there, but as long as Africa remains a stain on this planet, brimming with resources yet the disease, poverty, and non-productivity is perplexing; no one would take the Afro race serious, and nor should they.

The population of China and Africa is the same. Yet, while China practiced a one-child policy starting several decades back to curb overpopulation because of finite resources, over here we are still giving birth like rats even though we lack the technical knowhow to produce toothpicks.

Here's Lord Lugard's (some people's hero, since Nigeria's structure can't be negotiated anymore) take on Africans "In character and temperament, the typical African of this race-type is a happy, thriftless, excitable person. Lacking in self control, discipline, and foresight. Naturally courageous, and naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving
weapons as an oriental loves jewelry. His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future, or grief for the past."

And even though the Brits conquered and pummeled India like they did parts of Africa, here was Lord Lugard's comparison on Europeans, Asiatics, and Africans. "His [ An African] mind is far nearer to the animal world than the that of the European or Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals placidity and want of desire to rise beyond the State he has reached."

Europeans and Asians on one hand and Africans on the other. It wasn't just color. It takes a pathological sense of victimhood for anyone to think it is only about color.

Even then at the end of the 19th and start of the 20th centuries, when Britain had Africa and Asia well within its grip, Lugard knew which race was a doormat and which was at least the equal of Europeans. 100 years on and he couldn't have been more correct.

-Lord

you got that right

zinizta:
The author goofed IMO this wasn't a case of racism remember they chose to park next to a car whose occupant was a black woman.

The women were simply paranoid.

his wife is white

BiafraIShere:
Lol, you are gradually becoming funny.
Did you read and understood what I wrote earlier? I said I served in the north, once lived in Abuja and have visited some other areas, I don't have to visit all the northern states and towns before I can know what is happening there!
On your 2nd paragraph, you also missed the point. You said that north supplies 80% of the food consumed in the South and I told you it's a fallacy because the major staple food consumed in the South is garri, rice, yam, cocoyam, vegetables etc and they are largely sourced in the South with others imported. What the north supplies to the south is mainly onions, tomatoes, and a few others while items like livestock and beans are gotten from the north, Niger, Chad, Burkina Faso etc. Now how does these items constitute 80% or you just throw figures about carelessly??

On your third paragraph, thanks for acknowledging the fact that northerners live in shanties all over the south. Again, have you asked yourself how Nigeria would have looked like if Igbos in north as well as Yorubas and other Southerners all chose to live in shanties across the north just like the northerners do in the South?? The whole country would have been filled with slums and the GDP would have been far lower than what it is currently!! When you buy land and develop standard structures or at least rent, you are helping the economy to grow unlike when you live in unsightly shanties!! If Nigeria is not a fake country don't I don't see any reason why rich northerners won't build standard structures in the South. Whatever their reason is, is antithetical to national development, divisive, selfish and parochial.

On your 4th paragraph, you ended up validating my earlier statement that northerners are docile, unambitious and timid. Just look at the examples you are giving as case studies Jesus Christ, how on earth can someone attend Milwaukee school of engineering and studied a high in demand course like software engineering only for him to return to the north and be selling textile materials This is absolute waste of resources, time and money and he ought to be ashamed of himself, no pun intended!! About your second example, this is a common phenomenon because there are thousands of Southerners who studied in the UK and other Western countries who returned afterwards to look for jobs in Nigeria.

Lol, your statement about embassies looking at names and giving Northerners visa than Southerners is nothing but beer parlor gist and fallacy of hasty generalization. Embassies grant visa based on individual reasons for wanting the visa and if they appear genuine enough. I have a brother and sister that were granted visa to the US this year and they have Igbo and Christian names!! This assumption lacks merit and should be thrown into the trash bin until we have strong evidence to back it up.

On your final paragraph, again read what I wrote earlier, this time more slowly. You said north is safe and I asked how is that so when you can't travel on the roads without risking being killed or kidnapped?? What about the killings currently going on a daily basis in states like Plateau, Kaduna, Benue, Taraba, Adamawa, Borno, Yobe, Zamfara etc or are these not northern states?? What about the former army general who was recently kidnapped and killed while he was on his way to Bauchi?? What about the MTN engineer who was also killed in similar fashion not long ago among others?? How do you explain that more people died in Northern Nigeria this year alone than war torn Syria?? So much for peaceful North.

Now, this is ridiculous, has it gotten to the level of posting two pictures of Maiduguri, and what is spectacular about those pictures?? What point exactly do you want to prove with those mediocre pictures?? FYI, Borno is still receiving its monthly allocations as well as more extra budgets being allocated to it in the name of fighting boko Haram not to mention foreign aids through NGO's.

Northern Nigeria including its leaders and the people are the reason why Nigeria is in this mess and has refused to develop!!

this guy sef

you just no like northern folks

despite their flaws, I will still stand by what I tell people that southern folks damaged this country much more than the northern folk

and I am a southern kid

And yes they supply most of our food, that's a fact, except you want to live in a fool's paradise

If you were in Lagos in 2009, you will know just how dependent we are on northern supplies.

The traders and transporters went on strike to protest exploitation and the whole of Lagos was in trouble

that's even Lagos

if they do same in the east, what will be our fate there?

Nigerians failed Nigeria

Shifting the blame to the north is being mischievous