Kobicove:


Mention 1 person you know directly who has ever been kidnapped while travelling?

Are you seriously asking this ?

Vixlot:

God punish anyone supporting Peter Obi

So what does the mayhem have to do with Obi now?

Make una get sense for once naw

lhordspy:
A failed comedian looking for cheap attention.

HIs mate, Sabinus won an AMVCA ... This shameless clown is all over social media looking for validations and attention from social media obidient kids. I cant still believe i fought for supposedly justice alongside this clown during end-sarz protest before it got hijacked by miscreants and i had to back down. I should have known he was just an attention seeking social media nuisance. A yoruba-boy making fun of a Yoruba-Elder stateman all because of internet clout, likes and validations. smh

The silly boy emulating and copying yiibos. Yibbos that have no single or iota of trace of home-training or respect for their elders, talkmore of others.

Less than 90 days to go. This nonsense will surely be put to bed. The downFall of AIT ought to be a lesson to everyone. The Buhari they antagonised and ran campaign of calumnies against in 2015 with different demeaning documentaries and silly jokes. Not only won that election. But repeat it again in 2019.

Where is AIT now in the world of in-vogue news media.?

Dull person

That's what you are

Tannhauser:
None, there's no amount you can pay me to go back to that toxic environment. Most Nigerians are wicked and stu.pid and are proud to show off their stupid.ity. No rational and intelligent person can stay in Nigeria without loosing their mind.

Tueh.

True

PHIPEX:
Following the ongoing Japa waive across the country, 9 different families within my immediate circles have relocated to UK in the last 1year. But looking at it they are all in the working class/paid employment circle.

Why are Nigerian businessmen not leaving the country in waives too? I have noticed that lots of successful businessmen around who can afford the cost of relocation are not interested in the ongoing waive, what is the secret? What are they seeing that those in paid employment are not seeing?

From what I hear going on

Some business men are selling their businesses and leaving the country too

shegzhkn:


Lol, dude couldn't survive the competition in Uncle Sam.

A Nation with a paltry 2k USD GDP per Capita is a better place, great.

..... And a very massive poverty rate

sweetTai:
When I came to the United States in 1997, I used to advise people not to travel out of Nigeria. Today, I can’t sincerely give that advice. If you are well off in Nigeria with a good job or business, stay in Nigeria and travel to the west on vacation for exposure. Nigeria of today is a nightmare. Within the last 2 years, I know at least 4 families that returned to Nigeria some years back only to come back to America because the conditions in Nigeria was just too harsh. I don’t know of anybody that has stayed in America for some years and can make sense of Nigeria of today. The problem is not Nigeria, the problem is Nigerians. Our reasoning, our thoughts, our rationale and sentiments has been badly affected by instability and poverty. The last time I went home, I had to chastise a grown man in his 50s or 60s openly urinating in front of my Dad’s house. When I told him to stop, every Okada drivers and retailers around were laughing at me like I was saying things that is Devine. Everywhere I went, it’s begging, begging and begging! A complete chaos. I watched the utterances of the Nigerian politicians and it bemused me. I was watching TV one night when a Nigerian politician brought his 6 or 7 wives to the Nigerian congress just to show them how powerful of a man he is. This same politician has almost 20 kids! What business does he have besides the legislature to cater for such a huge family?? NIGERIA IS A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT!!!

Thank you oo

Angelfrost:


Such couples are better off divorced then.

I have on record several other couples that have remained married and even happier for decades since moving abroad.

Nigerians in Nigeria just pretend a lot because of the stigma attached to singleness and divorce...!

A lot of marriages in Nigeria today are more toxic and destructive than singleness! Fact!

True

tshtsh:

I still don't believe this narrative. All over the world you find people who do well and people who struggle or do badly. The community/support system is virtually absent abroad. I know a Nigerian doctor that moved to UK before I was born (he moved there in 1981) and never visited Nigeria till 2005. He was a consultant when he visited with a wife and one child. When I went to study at the university of edinburgh his daughter was a student there studying mathematics. She helped me get my first apartment near edinburgh using her credit profile/citizenship while I paid her back. Two months after I moved there her parents will constantly call me to go check up on her as she wasn't picking up their calls. I went a few times but got no response as she refused to open the door. She ended up dropping out of university while I completed my studies, moved back to Nigeria for the NYSc program, worked briefly in Nigeria (tech), south africa and now working in tech in Canada. The fact that I was born in Nigeria and lived there till I was almost 19 did not stop me from studying computer science and becoming a software engineer in Nigeria, South Africa and now Canada.
Second example is a pharmacist who moved to UK, met a naija man and got married. She eventually wasnt able to practice pharmacy there probably due to licensing or whatever. Her three kids were born in the UK. One is doing well. The only boy dropped out of uni and works in Tesco as cashier.
Third is an uncle who moved to USA via intra-company transfer from an IOC (chevron) to their HQ. At the time he was leaving for three years people asked him why he was taking his family if he would only be there for three years and it was same story of kids having a good headstart in USA. He returned after a few years without his wife and kids in 2006. Now out of the three kids they have, the first one dropped out of university, second and third are both homosexuals. They are trying to convince the second child to give men a chance . Third child is gay and they arrogate so much hate towards him.

I also have an uncle who moved to USA in the 80s to work in one of the big banks there. His children are doing all amazingly well .One is a doctor and the other two are high flyers in their career with MBAs from ivy-league universities.

The reason I outlined these examples is to pass across my opinion. Moving abroad under harsh circumstances doesn't guarantee the success of your kids. I can say it with certainty that Nigerians that moved to canada via express entry as adults within the last few years seem to even be doing much better than a lot of black canadians who were born in Canada.

People should learn the art of bringing up A-list kids and they'll likely be proud of their children be it home or abroad. Moving abroad has aided some people to prosper and it has also destroyed some people.

Then back to the trend now. People are moving to UK on study permits with many studying cooked courses that isn't likely to give them an edge in the UK labor market. They do it at a huge cost living in very tough conditions with no guarantees that they will become permanent residents. For a family man and woman making such move should involve a good and solid plan because some mistakes can be very costly to a 35 or 40 year old

Okay... I see

But from my own personal experience and what I have seen though; the ones who were born and raised abroad are currently far ahead
They used the advantages afforded to them to get ahead in life

Btw being a homosexual is no big deal imo though; it's their personal life and doesn't make them a failure in anyway when considered in isolation

That aside
Even you know that kids who start out abroad have certain headstart s and advantages.

It's now on them to either use it or squander it

Sagamite:


We are generally poor in:

1) Conceptualisation (i.e. original thinking & shaping in a progressive way; instead na gut-feeling and anywhere belle face most of our VIPs have)

2) Team work (instead we want to do it alone and try to pull others down so that our low level is still competitive)

3) Thinking (the black curse; instead we proudly leave our thinking to some useless God(s) to help/save us)

All these are important in setting up great businesses and being economically dominant to fuel more great businesses and economic empowerment.

What a race the Black race is!

True

tshtsh:

I don't want to sound negative but what these people are doing is unimaginable. Some will spend so much and end up working multiple jobs just to be able to survive in a UK that is undergoing hyperinflation and many economic issues. Some are even too old for this. By the time they become permanent residents and qualify for mortgage they'll be in their 40s with no enough years to work to pay-up the mortgage and have a decent pension fund.

But the kids that came with them will have a head start that even upper middle class kids in Nigeria can only dream of

clinician2x:


How are japa people lazy and irrational pls?

You want to sit back and influence a society where idiots like u are majority and majority carries the votes?

Good luck on ur delusions man.

Every intelligent person i know, myself inclusive, left Nigeria and there's no regrets.

Very well said

CoolAmbience:



And people don't move from point A to B in Nigeria safely?

Na so dem dey slaughter people naim people still remain for Nigeria?

The author no say make people no come abroad o....she talk say make dem come prepared...and with manageable expectations.

The country is not safe
At all

slivertongue:
Dino's comment is not acceptable

It is not

KwaraRat:


You will make a ton of money operating a bar in the tourist areas.

No be money be the final goal ?

There are Europeans and Americans that own bars and clubs in places like Bali, Indonesia , Thailand and Vietnam.

Cost of doing business is low, the society is law abiding and tourists flock there with foreign currency. Its like doing business in a working Nigeria.

Stop thinking of being a wage slave . Be a business owner. Only thing Osus have going for themselves which I respect.

Freaking tribalist

zed7:
I always tell people that japa is not for the poor. It's the middle class that can actually afford to relocate. Right now it's all about herd mentality. Many are like a bull going to the slaughter house. No concrete plan.

I actually wish them goodluck. They will sweat and grind for every penny. Nothing is given freely.

Whilst I know the country failed them, I also know that this is second slavery. The West don't need guns and mirrors anymore, they just need to dangle visas and tweak their policies a little and our best hands will run and go slaving for them, whilst their citizens idle away and enjoy the fruit of our peoples hardwork. Just like the days of old.

The West got this advanced with the sweat of Africans and other less developed nations. They're still doing same till date. It's pathetic.

What's pathetic about it ?

Chijeep:
happy married life my man.
LET THOSE PEOPLE SHOUTING MARRIAGE NA SCAM UPANDAN REMAIN SINGLE TILL THEY ENTER 75YRS. Na dat time dem go understand.
dem go even feel like make dem see pson wey go borrow dem der grand daughter to take care of them

You have no idea what u are talking about

magicminister:


Exactly my thoughts as well! Like, he’s the president for fucckssss sake!!! Omo some African countries will break your heart with the way they normalize evil!

What is evil about this though?

CaveAdullam:
1. The chances of achieving your goal become impossible or ultra slim.

2. As a father you will hardly have time for yourself because you are bothered about family bills.

3. Your only joy as a father is that your kids are healthy, intelligent, and becoming responsible.

4. As a father, the love your family has for you is predicated on the magnitude of your food storage and the depth of your pocket.

5. As a father when things go sour, the respect from nuclear and extended family plummets.

6. As a mother, you must serve your husband and children. You don't have time for vacations or rest.

7. As a father you will have at least one child that will behave in such a manner that it is as if he/she hates the family and wants to ruin the family name intentionally.

8. As a father only loyalty to your vows will keep you from infidelity because your wife will become boring by the day. Ditto for the mother.

9. The flames that run the marriage don't burn on their own. To keep the marriage fresh and the union alive the husband and wife must fan the flames.

10. As a father you'll one day be shocked and remain long-standing with mouth wide open, eyes gazing far when you are being asked "what have you done for me that you are using to boast".

11. As a mother you'll be expected to lead and provide even though it is not within your jurisdiction.

Marriage is a dreadful but enjoyable journey and must only be engaged by men and women who will be accountable and deliberate enough to hold to their specific marriage vows. Because marriage is the building block of civilization. The man and woman must be buoyant in the financial, physical, and spiritual angles (not religious) with no emotional baggage.

Thanks.

Very good response!

tshtsh:


Regarding money I always maintain that anyone that wants to be rich and wealthy will have a better chance in Nigeria than Canada. But for a comfortable, stress-free life Canada wins. I will not leave Toronto to Lagos to go work as an officer again. When I lived in Edinburgh I was so anxious to move to Nigeria that people thought I was rich or had a rich family. I moved back as a youth corper in 2015 and I began to see that a lot of things we took for granted in Scotland were actually big in Nigeria. After NYSC I worked at a bank (so called top 5) as a mobile application developer but the bosses were very reluctant to give me a laptop to work with. They kept saying I just finished NYSC and want to be given a macbook. I used a macbook as a student in Scotland and I didnt see anything special about it. I was supporting the Ghana operations of the bank on a project and when the Ghana team needed me physically present I was told some people had spent 10 years working in the bank and hadn't been opportune to travel outside Nigeria on official duty and hence wont be fair for a young employee like me to go on such trip. As students in Scotland we use to take weekend trips to netherlands, france, spain, iceland, portugal , Gran Canary and as far as miami on one occasion. I couldn't relate. We were not expected to express ourselves at meetings. Everyone was working in fear trying not to offend the GM or ED. I saw the reality of life in the Nigerian workplace. Everyone engaged in one eyeservice or the other to get things that I didn't see as anything. I left Nigeria after a short stint and I was made to understand that workplace hostility and bullying was common practice in many organizations in Nigeria. The fact that I owned a car and lived 10 mins from the office in VI also made my bosses complain about me from time to time LoL.
I was meant to hide my car or pretend to be poor/in need. I believe I prefer my life in Toronto. When I garner the necessary experience and get my business plan/funding right I'll move back to Nigeria for business but not to take up an officer position at a Nigerian company.

You have spoken very well

What you explained here is the reason why I said bye bye to Nigeria and didn't look back

I can NEVER be happy living in Nigeria as it is configured; no matter how much I have

Litmus:
Indian prim minister, Indian Home Secretary what do you as a Nigerian expect?

Indians were groomed by the British for this Buffer role (you cant easily accuse them of racism for they are "Ethnics" too) . They, Brits, even have sold this strategy to America as a means of keeping African Americans disempowered. It amazes me how unaware black people are of prevailing world and national agenders perhaps because we have none. Blacks are just good at facilitating their own oppression by always hating and dragging down other blacks, as is the case with black Americans versus Nigerians and Africa versus Nigerians.

I was arguing with a black American woman who was obsessing about Nigerians in America, she was on about how Africans benefit from black American struggles but now want to lord it over them. In short, I tried to direct her fight to Asians and Hispanics but she wouldn't have it (straight hair, thin nose and lips seem to have a magical hold on black Americans and carideans) anyway she informed me that she preferred Indians to Nigerians because Indians were nice (Imagine the stupidity).

Interesting

grandstar:
A good-for-nothing man.

With rape and crime so high in South Africa and unemployment as well, there'll be ship loads of such useless men. She should even be grateful she was neither raped or murdered. His judgment will come, if not now but at Armageddon.

"There is no rest for the wicked" my God has said

Well said

jeromestarks:
Pure love.
This is what you get when you're the only dickson fvcking her.

Marry a virgin and experience a woman's pure love.

Rubbish

Starzo:
Let the unpatriotic ones leave the country please

If Dem remain,na to use bad belle spoil things more

The country is better off without them

Country wey don cast kpata kpata

BATified2023:
emeka d mugu man telling us an over 60 year old pandora him tu lie is a youth

Same man that was with atiku few months ago suddenly became an angel today

To think you are supporting a useless old shaking expired man to lead this country is hilarious and pathetic at the same time


Let us see the magic Tinubu will perform that will make em president

We are watching

Well well well
They are also human beings

franchasng:
Lol.


If men keep their manhood in one place, the economy of Nigeria will collapse.


The reason Nigerians aren't feeling the heat of Buhari and APC incompetence is because Nigerian men in high places, from politicians, to top civil servants, to industrialists to top bank executives to oil company workers to Yahoo boys to Business moguls to guys living abroad are fending for Nigerian ladies, who in turn use the monies to cater for their families, fund their education, buy houses, cars, patronize various businesses, banks and whatnot, thereby making the money to go round.


If men keep their manhood one place, money won't circulate again and this will cause serious disruption in the Nigerian society.


Nollywood will die.

Radio and TV stations will suffer!

Banks will go bankrupt!

Real estate businesses will die.

Online business merchants will close shop.


Hotels and bars will close shop.

Entertainment industry will die!

Mobile phone sale outlets will close shop.

Spars, Boutiques, recreational centers, shopping malls, car shops will all close business.


Fast food restaurants will die natural death.


Night clubs will fold.



In fact there will be anarchy in Nigeria so Mr Pharmacist abeg be careful with this your advice oh

Banks go bankrupt ?
I really doubt that

Gwan2:
I sometimes read threads like this, especially with regards to “Japa”, and I weep in my heart.

A nation where 80% of the most active and productive age group feels the only way they can succeed or prosper is by leaving the country is really pitiable and sad. The narrative has pervaded the whole atmosphere, that you see even someone that is moderately well off in Nigeria jumping or abandoning ship to face an unknown fate.

I don’t blame anyone, especially those with such notions, a force propelled that…but is very sad

They are not all silly
They can see the condition of things with their own eyes

MasterofNL:


How many of the Japa people have been able to build the dream houses?

How many Nigerians can build their own houses ?

Trumann:


Those who wanted houses, cars, domestic staff and gold thrones are probably those who went to the UK for Masters thinking it unlocks wealth. Many of them are on this thread.
An MBA in Lagos Bison School is better than most UK Masters. That's what most people don't know.

But an MBA in Lagos Business school will cost you almost the same amount if not more than some of the UK Masters

Regardless of what we say here
The truth is the country is in a mess right now

I've been back to Nigeria (temporarily) for a while now and it's been a shitshow.
The country is MUCH worse than how it was when I ran away in the first place

So I'll say
Anyone who can should try out the relocation option

koning:





Give me that land in Ikorodu and relocate. They need workers in Kuwait and Qatar right now. I'm done advicing young people to stay put in Nigeria. You even see N7m sef.

On the contrary I advise every young Nigerian with the right mindset to leave the toxic environment Nigeria has become and go thrive elsewhere

SocialJustice:
You can't build a house with N7m, get UK admission and leave or go for healthcare visa, you won't need to go to school, you will get there and start working as school no dey your mind but na school route I believe pass. This is not a hard decision to make. Save good money abroad and you can come back to build your dream house.

Update: All these children that still receive stipends from their parents and do not even have a clue about life in Nigeria, keep quiet when adults are talking.

For those of you who say you can build house with N7m I salute your courage, carry on. It is your type that after you are given the money, the property won't get to lintel, you will start asking for more money.

For those that suggested Canada and USA, USA is the country I really have in mind but I don't deal with visa processes where I am not sure. UK is like Sweden and some other European countries, with your admission letter, your visa is sure. I don't want to get admission letter and still be denied visa. Them done deny you visa before? That is like wasting time and money.

Go to UK, be focused, get your PR and you can move to USA or Canada. So many Nigerians are at different points in their journeys to settle outside the country.

Another sensible comment