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BusinessRe: Is Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op): 4:42pm On Jul 07, 2013
[quote author=Somorin#1]It's bad business in the long term.

Think Walmart and how it has demolished the smaller Mom and Pop stores.[/quote]dont u think it will take eons for shoprite to displace mom and pop shops in Nigeria? they cant open shop in evey village in nigera. hence mom and pop shops will still survive.
BusinessRe: Is Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op): 4:37pm On Jul 07, 2013
EmperorSeal: Lies, I have been using Irish spring soap for years now, I buy the pack which contains 3 for 450 naira at my neighbourhood any of the smaller retail shops around me, but when I got to shoprite, I went for 550 naira. It so much pissed me that I declined going to that place again.
next time put the Irish spring soap you get from shop rite and the one from your neighborhood store side by side and compare them with a magnifying glass and see if they are really the same!
There might be an aba made or Chinese product in the mix. just saying! lol

Besides do you know where your neighborhood store get their supply from, if in deed it is not a fake product?
If their supply is smuggled in from Cotonou or Cameroon it means that they did not pay custom duties on them and hence can afford to sell it at a cheaper price than shoprite,In which case Nigeria losses revenue.
Wouldn't you rather buy from a company that is paying taxes to nigeria.

besides your sample size is insignificant the price disparity on just one item should not be enough to discourage you.can you compare more items before coming to a conclusion?
shoprite may not be the right place for you to buy your irish spring, but they may have better price on other items!
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater
Nairaland GeneralCan We Disagree And Not Be Disagreeable While Responding On These Forum? by ujoinme(op): 4:18pm On Jul 07, 2013
It been my opinion being a recent participant on this forum that Nigerians are very disagreeable people, myself included.
It pains me to see the way we respond to one another on these forum.we resort to insults at the slightest provocation. what do you think is responsible for how rude we are as Nigerians? is it genetic? or is it as a result of the repressed environment that we endured for all those years that the military were in power and we could not express ourselves openly? and now we have the chance we cant help it but scream at one another.
Or could it be we are rude because of the military mentality we derived from the military dictatorship? are we bigot?
Whats your opinion?
BusinessRe: Is Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op): 3:53pm On Jul 07, 2013
gabbytabby: For me its not about Shoprite per say more about the business concept. Shoprite has its place and the market is not even close to being saturated. There are things I will never buy in the market and there are those I would never buy in Shoprite.

Having Shoprite has meant that I carry at least 30kg less luggage when the children are travelling with me so I am not complaining. They also provide building, manufacturing/production, retail etc jobs for the local community and contribute to local tax revenues.Its a good thing to have businesses like that.

The challenge is why are more and more indigenous entreprenuers not involved is this type of sucessful business idea. There is shortage of even local produce at reasonable price yet despite government initiatives a lot of indigenous people are not rising up to the challenge. We need to be prepared to get our hands dirty instead of this idea of sitting behind a desk and signing paper.

Idle hands kills the economy, bad work ethics, stealing, fraud are others that kills the ecomomy.
Maybe the presence of shoprite is the catalyst that nigerians need to catapult us to the era of retail chain market development.
MTN /ECONET, did it for Globacom in the cellphone/communication market and nigeria is better for it today.
BusinessRe: Is Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op): 3:38pm On Jul 07, 2013
Pipsland78:
POSITIVES
1) Provision of jobs thereby reducing unemployment
2) Provision of tourist centres
3) They pay tax to the govt
4) Provision of much needed goods all in one spot thereby reducing cost of shopping.
5) Their products are cheap
6) They act as a catalyst to our entrepreneurs thereby encouraging them to become better entrepreneurs.

NEGATIVES
1) They create unemployment by killing small businesses. This is the same reason small towns in America clamour against the presence of retail giants like Walmart.
2) They encourage poverty by tempting people to buy impetuously.
3) They break up relationships by causing our ladies to make excessive demands on our young men.

MY TAKE
Every capitalist country in the world clamours for direct foreign investment, and since Nigeria is a capitalist state then I think the presence of Shoprite should be supported. The positives of having shoprite in Nigeria outweighs the negatives.
I love this post very much. espercially the negatives do you guys think that Shoprite break relationships by causing our ladies to make excessive demands on their hubbies?
BusinessRe: Is Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op): 3:22pm On Jul 07, 2013
EmperorSeal: Lies, I have been using Irish spring soap for years now, I buy the pack which contains 3 for 450 naira at my neighborhood any of the smaller retail shops around me, but when I got to shoprite, I went for 550 naira. It so much pissed me that I declined going to that place again.
next time put the Irish spring soap you get from shop rite and the one from your neighborhood store side by side and compare them with a magnifying glass and see if they are really the same!
There might be an aba made or Chinese product in the mix. just saying! lol

Besides do you know where your neighborhood store get their supply from, if in deed it is not a fake product?
If their supply is smuggled in from Cotonou or Cameroon it means that they did not pay custom duties on them and hence can afford to sell it at a cheaper price than shoprite,In which case Nigeria losses revenue.
Wouldn't you rather buy from a company that is paying taxes to nigeria.

besides your sample size is insignificant the price disparity on just one item should not be enough to discourage you.can you compare more items before coming to a conclusion?
shoprite may not be the right place for you to buy your irish spring, but they may have better price on other items!
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
PoliticsRe: Cross River State Of Nigeria: A New World for Investment by ujoinme(op): 3:06pm On Jul 07, 2013
construction of 18 hole golf course in calabar begins
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1490002.
PoliticsRe: Cross River State Of Nigeria: A New World for Investment by ujoinme(op): 3:02pm On Jul 07, 2013
PoliticsRe: Cross River State Of Nigeria: A New World for Investment by ujoinme(op): 2:56pm On Jul 07, 2013
General Electric of USA breaks ground for establishing a manufacturing plant in calabar
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/ge-breaks-ground-for-250m-manufacturing-and-assembly-plant-in-calabar/
SportsRe: Finally,An ultra-modern Stadium is being built in Nigeria. by ujoinme(op): 2:53pm On Jul 07, 2013
i know this project has gone to the roof level but since am not in uyo currently i cant get the picture. could anyone who resides in uyo take a picture of the current state of the project and post it here please?
BusinessRe: Is Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op):
Pipsland78:
POSITIVES
1) Provision of jobs thereby reducing unemployment
2) Provision of tourist centres
3) They pay tax to the govt
4) Provision of much needed goods all in one spot thereby reducing cost of shopping.
5) Their products are cheap
6) They act as a catalyst to our entrepreneurs thereby encouraging them to become better entrepreneurs.

NEGATIVES
1) They create unemployment by killing small businesses. This is the same reason small towns in America clamour against the presence of retail giants like Walmart.
2) They encourage poverty by tempting people to buy impetuously.
3) They break up relationships by causing our ladies to make excessive demands on our young men.

MY TAKE
Every capitalist country in the world clamours for direct foreign investment, and since Nigeria is a capitalist state then I think the presence of Shoprite should be supported. The positives of having shoprite in Nigeria outweighs the negatives.
PIPS am proud of you.You make me believe that there is still hope for an intellectual discourse on these forum.
If there was a prize for critical thinking in the forum i would gladly hand it over to you.
Thank you for an excellent reply to the post.
good work!
but some of your assertion will make for very interesting debate.
BusinessIs Shoprite Business Good For Nigeria? by ujoinme(op): 7:36pm On Jul 06, 2013
Will like to know what nigerians think of this south african firm thats investing in Nigeria? Is it good for our country or not?
Whats your take?
PoliticsRe: EU Loses $153 BILLION To Corruption Yearly by ujoinme: 4:19pm On Jul 06, 2013
the current British prime minister should be called upon to intervene in these level of corruption that affecting the EU.
And bring it to the fore front in all international summits as i have supported his move in amplifying corruption in Nigeria.
He should not shy away form this allegation that is close to his homeland.
PoliticsRe: People Come Here To Ask For Locust Beans–shoprite Worker by ujoinme: 4:12pm On Jul 06, 2013
That will easily be remedied once nigerian market proves profitable and stable. shoprite is yet to build its own mall on their property in nigeria yet. they are just leasing space in existing malls in nigeria to test and develope the retail chain market in nigeria.

There is plan to build 50 locations of their own in nigeria in the future and accquisation of land has started. A city like ibadan with its population density if backed by sales in this test/present location will easily have up to 5 more stores.

Shop rite has over seven brands of stores besides shoprite such as:checkers, usave,liquor, pharmacy,etc.
and they run over almost 400 stores in ZA alone servicing a population far less than the population of nigeria.

If they make ample profit which is their aim in being here in the first place i suspect there will be a lot of outlets in nigeria in the future.

And dont forget that among retail chains globally shoprite is ranked 97th though ranked 1st within Africa, which means 96 retail chains far bigger than shop rite are watching what shoprite is doing breaking grounds in nigeria and africa.

If shoprites experiment proves profitable then we will see a lot of investment from some of the other 96 retail chains in these area because these companies are always looking at new profitable market to channel their expansion.

Retail is one of the areas of the economy that generate a lot of jobs in most countries around the world, and nigeria will be better off with retail chain development.

Just imagine the number of jobs it will create! indigenous supplier it will also create! and the local competition it will generate! remember MTN, ECONET foreign firms birthed the indigenous Globalcom.

keeping my fingers crossed.
and just praying that shoprite succeeds in Nigeria as it will open nigerian economy to a whole new level of possibilities.
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PoliticsRe: Shoprite Opens In Ibadan by ujoinme:
thelonestranger: The problem with Shoprite though is high cost of items and long checkout time. It has the advantage of more variety over shops like Foodco.. You have a choice of a 2 - 15minute checkout at Foodco or a 30minute checkout at Shoprite.. Existing shops shouldn't lose sleep over arrival of Shoprite in Ibadan.
That will easily be remedied once nigerian market proves profitable and stable. shoprite is yet to build its own mall on their property in nigeria yet. they are just leasing space in existing malls in nigeria to test and develope the retail chain market in nigeria.

There is plan to build 50 locations of their own in nigeria in the future and accquisation of land has started. A city like ibadan with its population density if backed by sales in this test/present location will easily have up to 5 more stores.

Shop rite has over seven brands of stores besides shoprite such as:checkers, usave,liquor, pharmacy,etc.
and they run almost 400 stores in ZA alone servicing a population far less than the population of nigeria.

If they make ample profit which is their aim in being here in the first place i suspect there will be a lot of outlets in nigeria in the future.

And dont forget that among retail chains globally shoprite is ranked 97th though ranked 1st within Africa, which means 96 retail chains far bigger than shop rite are watching what shoprite is doing breaking grounds in nigeria and africa.

If shoprites experiment proves profitable then we will see a lot of investment from some of the other 96 retail chains in these area because these companies are always looking at new profitable market to channel their expansion.

Retail is one of the areas of the economy that generate a lot of jobs in most countries around the world, and nigeria will be better off with retail chain development.

Just imagine the number of jobs it will create! indigenous supplier it will also create! and the local competition it will generate! remember MTN, ECONET foreign firms birthed the indigenous Globalcom.

keeping my fingers crossed.
and just praying that shoprite succeeds in Nigeria as it will open nigerian economy to a whole new level of possibilities.
PoliticsRe: Shoprite Opens In Ibadan by ujoinme: 3:27pm On Jul 06, 2013
CyberG: The only thing that is BAD here is that I would prefer if this were a store chain owned by Nigerians doing business in Nigeria and in foreign countries! Foreign countries should not be allowed to make billions off our country! Dangote has tried! Adenuga has tried! They cannot do EVERYTHING! (Correction: Shoprite is owned by Americans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShopRite_(United_States))

The people poking fun at Ibadan here are of course mostly ibos! Anything that adds progress to the Yoruba South West gives them diarrhea of the mouth and brain! LWTMB! grin grin But there is no question why, just complete this puzzle: 1 9 6 _ - 1 _ 7 0! Other puzzles will be made public in time! grin grin
Shoprite is not American but a south african company. trust what the coy say about their history not wiki. heres the link for you and next time do more research than what is pasted on wikipedia. http://www.shopriteholdings.co.za/pages/1019812640/about-our-company/history.asp

according to your wiki site there is a difference btw the ShopRite USA and shoprite ZA the one investing and doing business in nigeria is the ZA shoprite.

Shoprite (South Africa), the South African food distributor
Shoprite (Isle of Man), the Isle of Man-based food retailer that once traded in the United Kingdom
ShopRite (United States), the retailers' cooperative (co-op) chain of supermarkets in the northeastern U.S.
ShopRite LPGA Classic, a women's professional golf tournament in the United States, sponsored by the supermarket chain
Shop-Rite, a Canadian catalogue store that operated from the 1970s to 1982
PoliticsRe: See Geopolitical Zones Contribution (A Cheat System) by ujoinme:
why cant you guys show the real data and stop the speculation.
wish i had data from the FG. lack of information breeds misinformation.
Is there any in the forum with valid data?
please come to the rescue!
PoliticsRe: Photos Of How Nigerian Prisoners Sleep And Enjoy Their Life by ujoinme: 3:40am On Jul 06, 2013
MODERATORS PLS CAN YOU ERASE THE THREAD.
THE PRISONS ARE NOT NIGERIAN. FAKE NEWS WITH NO SOURCE THESE KINDS OF THREAD SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED ON THIS FORUM, IT TAKES AWAY THE CREDIBILITY OF THIS FORUM IF SUCH THREADS ARE NOT DELETED.
PoliticsRe: See Geopolitical Zones Contribution (A Cheat System) by ujoinme: 9:35pm On Jul 05, 2013
QUOTE THE SOURCE OF YOUR INFORMATION?
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa State In Pictures The New Haven In Nigeria by ujoinme(op): 9:33pm On Jul 05, 2013
andresia: Meaning credit should go to the private entrprise dat made it possible & not go to govt & GEJ as some of his bottm lickers like Itoroetti is beginin to. Those structures have been on ground b4 GEJ came to govt. I smell d deceit and its important records are set straight
and what structure is that u r refering to?
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa State In Pictures The New Haven In Nigeria by ujoinme(op): 8:20pm On Jul 05, 2013
andresia: LOL! @op, why dis deceit? last pix is fenced, probable expatriate quarters for staff of an oil company. desist from deceit pls
so that makes it not in bayelsa?
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa State In Pictures The New Haven In Nigeria by ujoinme(op): 7:43pm On Jul 05, 2013
post pictures of bayelsa state if you have some
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa State In Pictures The New Haven In Nigeria by ujoinme(op): 7:28pm On Jul 05, 2013
more

PoliticsBayelsa State In Pictures The New Haven In Nigeria by ujoinme(op): 7:26pm On Jul 05, 2013
what you dont know about bayelsa.

PoliticsRe: Photos Of How Nigerian Prisoners Sleep And Enjoy Their Life by ujoinme:
they should apply to be transfered to the akwa ibom new prison. i bet the condition there is better. lol

SportsRe: Finally,An ultra-modern Stadium is being built in Nigeria. by ujoinme(op): 4:01pm On Jul 05, 2013
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/j1GzWcXZuoA?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
SportsRe: Finally,An ultra-modern Stadium is being built in Nigeria. by ujoinme(op): 3:59pm On Jul 05, 2013
PoliticsChina CCECC To Begin Construction Of Ibaka Deep Seaport by ujoinme(op): 1:58am On Jul 03, 2013
The Chinese Civil Engineering Construction Company(CCECC) has pledged to work with the Akwa Ibom State government on the Ibaka Deep Seaport project.
CCECC Managing Director in Nigeria Mr Shi Hong Bing told Governor Godswill Akpabio in Abuja that the firm would ensure that the seaport becomes a reality.

Bing, who praised Akpabio for allowing the firm to construct some roads in the state, said it was involved in similar projects in other parts of Africa.
He acknowledged the infra-structural facilities in Akwa Ibom, urging Governor Akpabio to keep up the good work.

Governor Akpabio said it would be fantastic to collaborate with the firm in the construction of the seaport, adding that the committee on the project, which is on a road show, would meet with the company to work out the areas of cooperation.
Chief Akpabio, who described Akwa Ibom as “work in progress”, praised the company for the quality of work it has done in the state.

“CCECC and the government of Akwa Ibom State under my leadership have been good partners. And it is a partnership that has produced results.

“The first road contract that was awarded to your company was delivered in time complete with the best street lights and drainage in the country. And recently we signed a contract for the dualisation of Etinan-Eket road and more jobs are coming.

“It is not a function of lobbying for the job but that of quality, good pricing and record time delivery. We look forward to continuous partnership,” he said.

The governor reiterated that the seaport would promote commerce and complement the port in Lagos and also serve as a major transshipment point for the West African coast. He said the project would also provide employment for many.
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/business/maritime/akwa-ibom-chinese-firm-partner-on-ibaka-seaport/
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Beautiful Shoreline in pictures by ujoinme(op): 5:19pm On Jul 02, 2013
like those shores
PoliticsRe: Delta To Introduce Automated Fare Collection In State-owned Buses by ujoinme: 10:25pm On Jun 29, 2013
nice
BusinessRe: Work Begins On Onitsha Shoprite. by ujoinme: 2:55pm On Jun 29, 2013
IS SHOPRITE A SOUTH AFRICAN OR AN AMERICAN COMPANY?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria’s Tax System To Be Automated In October – FIRS by ujoinme: 2:33pm On Jun 29, 2013
good radiance

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