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Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 10:02am On Jan 15, 2016

malvisguy212:
if you behave foolishly, I will have to call your foolishness to your attention. Thank you.

Says the guy who believes in a talking snake and a man with 2.3kg of hair on his head. Mtchew. Fool for Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 9:35am On Jan 15, 2016

malvisguy212:
FOOL, who trick Eve ?

God Love required justice, even when His children sin, they will have to pay for it, if God should show partiality and ignored the sin of this prophet because he is a prophet, still you foolish atheists will still blame God for partiality. Reprobate mind you have.

You are truly an idiot among all idiots. I didn't insult you bot you called me a fool. Your biblical childish God knew the talking snake would truck her but he still allowed it to be there. He knew the Prophet would trick him but still allowed him to have his way

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 9:23am On Jan 15, 2016

malvisguy212:
if you want mature argument, do not just go and copy and paste random verses to proved me wrong, you will have to provide in details, why this verses say freewill is wrong. But I will say one thing here.

God predistine the CHARACTER and not the IDENTY.

These verses don't say free will is wrong. They just point out that the biblical God is anti free will

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 9:13am On Jan 15, 2016

malvisguy212:
1. Is evil a 'thing' that we can create ? Can you feel ,smell and touch evil ? God created the heaven and earth and everything in it, God call everything he create Good, God also gave man the choice to chose, anything man chose that is in contradictory to what God created is evil, this mean God allowed evil to happened. The translation you use is OLD king James version.
2. The man who was eaten by lion, the man was even a prophet, ( God's children) read the whole story, he disobey God.

He disobeyed because he was tricked. And so a God who is all loving sent him a lion that rips him to shreds. lovely. To show him how merciful he is.

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 9:07am On Jan 15, 2016

malvisguy212:
the problem is you, if you know the purpose of this universe, you will not say such things.

The universe was not created to be good. God created the universe as a temporary place to prepared His creatures for a perfect universe,God is good, but He has allowed His creatures free-will to do whatever they want within their limited ability. God has designed the universe to operate under a set of physical principles.
The purpose of the universe is to allow God's creatures the choice to love Him. Love is not possible without free-will. Therefore God chooses to allow His creatures the ability to do evil for the purpose of permitting them also to love. If God controlled everything we did, we could not demonstrate love, since we would be pre-programmed to respond. A computer cannot love, but free-will beings can.

Neither pain nor death is evil from a Christian perspective. For example, pain is a necessary function in our lives. If we could not feel pain, we would end up causing serious damage to ourselves. Whenever I get burned,I move my hand rapidly away from the source of the pain. If I had no pain receptors, I would probably continue to burn my hand until I noticed the smoke. This would obviously not be a good thing to do. Likewise,death is required in a universe governed by entropy.

Free will ekwa

Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills.

Psa 139:16 You saw me before I was born. Every day of
my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid
out before a single day had passed .

Rom 9:10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had
conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac,
Rom 9:11 though they were not yet born and had done
nothing either good or bad--in order that God's purpose of
election might continue, not because of works but
because of him who calls --
Rom 9:12 she was told, "The older will serve the younger."
Rom 9:13 As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I
hated."
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on
God's part? By no means!
Rom 9:15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on
whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom
I have compassion."
Rom 9:16 So then it depends not on human will or
exertion, but on God, who has mercy .
Rom 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very
purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power
in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the
earth."
Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills. (i wonder why some
fools here mock Allah because of this.)
Rom 9:19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find
fault? For who can resist his will?"
Rom 9:20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to
God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have
you made me like this?"
Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make
out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and
another for dishonorable use?
Rom 9:22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to
make known his power, has endured with much patience
vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
Rom 9:23 in order to make known the riches of his glory
for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand
for glory

A woman who is raped is raped against her free will

Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also
predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son , in
order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
Rom 8:30 And those whom he predestined he also called,
and those whom he called he also justified, and those
whom he justified he also glorified.

How can there be free will when he has predestined everything.

Joh 6:65 And he said, "This is why I told you that no one
can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father ."

Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills.

Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also
predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son,
in order that he might be the firstborn among many
brothers.
Rom 8:30 And those whom he predestined he also
called, and those whom he called he also justified, and
those whom he justified he also glorified.
Rom 9:16 So then it depends not on human will or
exertion, but on God, who has mercy
Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills.
Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make
out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and
another for dishonorable use?

Eph 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance,
having been predestined according to the purpose of
him who works all things according to the counsel of
his will

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 8:57am On Jan 15, 2016

malvisguy212:
the problem is you, if you know the purpose of this universe, you will not say such things.

The universe was not created to be good. God created the universe as a temporary place to prepared His creatures for a perfect universe,God is good, but He has allowed His creatures free-will to do whatever they want within their limited ability. God has designed the universe to operate under a set of physical principles.
The purpose of the universe is to allow God's creatures the choice to love Him. Love is not possible without free-will. Therefore God chooses to allow His creatures the ability to do evil for the purpose of permitting them also to love. If God controlled everything we did, we could not demonstrate love, since we would be pre-programmed to respond. A computer cannot love, but free-will beings can.

Neither pain nor death is evil from a Christian perspective. For example, pain is a necessary function in our lives. If we could not feel pain, we would end up causing serious damage to ourselves. Whenever I get burned,I move my hand rapidly away from the source of the pain. If I had no pain receptors, I would probably continue to burn my hand until I noticed the smoke. This would obviously not be a good thing to do. Likewise,death is required in a universe governed by entropy.

Isiah 45 vs 7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I
make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 8:40am On Jan 15, 2016

Goahead:
Because they are gods, unpar with the supernatural being above us.... The God of the Christians is omnibenevolent sir, he exudes his people with elixir that cure, miracles and love. Have you ever been to church?

On his "omnibenevolence¥

He creates hell for the disbelievers.
Isaiah 45 vs 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things

He says it himself that he creates evil.

– Touching the Ark of the Covenant (1 Chronicles 13:9-10). This is the other example that critics use
to slam the Biblical God. The Israelites, led by King David, are transporting the Ark of the Covenant. The
oxen stumble, and Uzzah tries to steady the Ark. For his trouble, God kills him. Now, I’ve heard many
reasons why this happened. Maybe God was using Uzzah as an example that the Ark was not just an
inert piece of metal like you’d find in the other regional religions. Or maybe Uzzah died of a heart attack
from the shock that he’d laid his hand on the Ark of the Covenant. Anyway, King David gave Uzzah his
due by naming the place after him (“Perez Uzzah”). I know it means “outbreak against Uzzah,” but if you
had to die in the service of the Lord for simply touching something, you gotta take anything you can get,
y’know?

NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from
the Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite
women and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all
the Midianite male children and "... every
woman who has known man ...." (Note:
How would it be determined which women
had known men? One can only speculate.)

DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites
to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to
those whom he gives them for defeat.

EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off
both the righteous and the wicked that his
sword shall go against all flesh.

1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for
eating bread and drinking water in a place
where the Lord had previously told him not
to. This is in spite of the fact that the man
had subsequently been lied to by a prophet
who told the man that an angel of the Lord
said that it would be alright to eat and drink
there.

On the issue of miracles my brother even Mary is said to work wonders

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_Medal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Lourdes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_apparition

So by using your argument Mary is truly the Queen of heaven because of her using her elixir that cure.

Pagans also cure thee sick. And yes I've been to church thousands of times

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus REALLY Is Coming Soon. BE READY!!! by urahara(m): 7:24am On Jan 15, 2016

Fadman4real:
That verse actually talks about the mount of transfiguration where the trio of peter, james and John saw Jesus with Moses and Elijah.

However, Mark and Luke place
the transfiguration event before Jesus made spoke the
prophecy. Laying aside the obvious discrepency in timing,
we can say for certain that an event occurring before a
prediction is made can’t be fulfilling the prediction. The
“prediction” wouldn’t be a prediction at all.
The preceding verse (verse 27) starts off the description
of Jesus’ coming by saying he would come “in glory” with
angels to dole out judgment to “every man”. That is not
what happened in the transfiguration stories.

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 7:17am On Jan 15, 2016

Goahead listen to what I have to say. Saying God doesn't exist because of the problem of evil is an argument from lack of imagination. The problem of evil just proves that an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God doesn't exist. Let me ask you something do you really think God would send someone to hell for not believing in his incoherent self contradicting book called the Bible. And ask yourself why you don't believe in the other tens of thousands of gods. If I tell you I am God won't you demand for an exceptional evidence. Are u merely a believer because that is how your parents brought you up

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Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 7:06am On Jan 15, 2016

winner01:
NO ONE avoids life's consequences, you can only choose to live in denial of its existence.

Better put "Atheists wish there were no police men, so they can rob banks".

But come to think of it, people who rob banks don't think of God when they do such, they prefer to kill their conscience for that short moment.
Sounds like they become atheists for the few minutes of madness.

Why not put it like this; "Atheists wish there were no HIV so they can sleep with women with no protection"

"They wish there were no efcc so they can steal as much as they want.

You see, ive put all your statements in the right phrase .

And I was talking about man's natural nature, not atheists. Seems to me like you are having a hard time with your conscience.

Well, like kingEbukasBlog have rightly said, you should take some time to reflect on the things you read.

You said I am having a hard time with my conscience well I am not even an atheist

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 7:04am On Jan 15, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Sssh . When an elder fills you with sensible talk , you should take some time and reflect on it . Winner01 just spoke the truth and you are throwing tantrums like a petulant baby . Nwanne , wetin concern police and efcc here ?

Silence you who believes absalom had hair weighing 2.3kg grin

KingEbukasBlog:
Sssh . When an elder fills you with sensible talk , you should take some time and reflect on it . Winner01 just spoke the truth and you are throwing tantrums like a petulant baby . Nwanne , wetin concern police and efcc here ?

Silence you who believes absalom had hair weighing 2.3kg

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 7:04am On Jan 15, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Sssh . When an elder fills you with sensible talk , you should take some time and reflect on it . Winner01 just spoke the truth and you are throwing tantrums like a petulant baby . Nwanne , wetin concern police and efcc here ?

Silence you who believes absalom had hair weighing 2.3kg

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 9:19pm On Jan 14, 2016

winner01:
This is the whole point of atheism. Unaccountability.

Wow that is such a very great argument. It makes so much sense that atheist will choose not to believe in God so they can avoid consequences.

Do you even know atheist choose not to believe in the police so they can rob banks.

Atheist choose not to believe in hiv and aids so they can
Sleep with women with no protection.

They choose not to believe in fraudulent websites so they don't get scammed.

They choose not to believe in the efcc so that they can steal as much as they want.

Wow it makes sooo much sense

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Christianity Etc › Re: Am I An Atheist? by urahara(m): 11:52am On Jan 14, 2016

Goahead:
"God loves this child and he will starve him to death to prove it.."

The fact that there is so much evil doesn't automatically prove that God doesn't exist.it just proves that a God who is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent God doesn't exist.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 8:13am On Jan 14, 2016

My former pastor believes his religion is right because it was only in his scripture the founder of their religion came back to life and that other religions don't have the chance to add that to their holy book

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 9:29pm On Jan 13, 2016

The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Fever is from the heat of Hell, so abate fever with water." [Sahih Bukhari]
Exactly what you would expect from a stark illiterate

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 9:27pm On Jan 13, 2016

tartar9:
how do we then see the moon @urahara
the verse even says the sun is the lamp there.

The moon is a celestial body that reflects light from the sun.

And God made the two great lights—the greater light (the sun) to rule the day and the lesser light (the moon) to rule the night. He also made the stars. Genesis 1

Even the Bible makes this flaw.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 9:00pm On Jan 13, 2016

Ultimatesammie:
Apart from the numerous signs and wonders that happen and the unbelieveable miracles that take place coupled with glorious ministrations and guides to how one should live his life, u wonder why people still disbelief.

Catholics perform so called "signs and wonders". Hindus. Bahais. Joseph Smith of the Mormon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_apparition

With all this miracles of Mary u wonder why people still disbelief.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá'í_prophecies

With these prophecies of bahullah you wonder why people still disbelief

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 8:50pm On Jan 13, 2016

dalaman:
Which signs and wonders? You mean staged miracles right?

We want this kind of signs and wonders
Mark 16:17-18 King James Version (KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 8:47pm On Jan 13, 2016

Quran 67 vs 5
And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire. (Yusuf Ali) And verily We have beautified the world's heaven with lamps, and We have made them missiles for the devils, and for them We have prepared the doom of flame.
Nawa o since when did stars become missiles.

51:49 And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect.
Including bacteria and fungi.
71:16 And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp ?

The moon doesn't have light

Christianity Etc › Re: The Olodo Guide To Paying Tithe by urahara(m): 7:31pm On Jan 13, 2016

sonOfLucifer:
God bless you Brother. May wisdom be far away from you.

Loooooooooooooooooooool you are too funny

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Science/Technology › Re: Top 10 Most Mysterious Planets (known) In The Observable Universe by urahara(m): 7:03pm On Jan 13, 2016

johnydon22:
(9.)Gliese1214B

For people who might have the Impression that earth holds an impressive amount of water, this is for you.. You may want to think again because this Planet will blow your mind.

Located 42light years away from earth, this planet earns it's nickname in the science world "THE WATERWORLD"

Because this planet is made entirely of water all around it, no land but just water all over the planet and runs deep until you meet the core coated in ice..

This planet may possess clouds (Still unsure) but the amount of water this planet hold makes earth's oceans look like Child's play.

The water world is impressively a mysterious planet because i doubt if any of us here ever thought there would be a planet made of entirely of water..

https://www.exoclimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Planet_GJ_1214_b.png

[img]http://randomgeekings.files./2012/02/462853a-f1-2.jpg?w=1326[/img]

Science/Technology › Re: Top 10 Most Mysterious Planets (known) In The Observable Universe by urahara(m): 6:15pm On Jan 13, 2016

johnydon22:
(9.)Gliese1214B

For people who might have the Impression that earth holds an impressive amount of water, this is for you.. You may want to think again because this Planet will blow your mind.

Located 42light years away from earth, this planet earns it's nickname in the science world "THE WATERWORLD"

Because this planet is made entirely of water all around it, no land but just water all over the planet and runs deep until you meet the core coated in ice..

This planet may possess clouds (Still unsure) but the amount of water this planet hold makes earth's oceans look like Child's play.

The water world is impressively a mysterious planet because i doubt if any of us here ever thought there would be a planet made of entirely of water..

https://www.exoclimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Planet_GJ_1214_b.png

[img]http://randomgeekings.files./2012/02/462853a-f1-2.jpg?w=1326[/img]

Still a hypothetical planet tho

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 5:54pm On Jan 13, 2016

johnydon22:
It is absurd to think that Modern 21st century men are revolving their thinking around these ridiculous books and try tooth and nail to defend it..

One guy once told me Circle means Round (Because someone brought up where the bible said "Circle of the earth which means flat earth"..

Someone born in the 21st century doesn't know Circle is entirely a different thing from round..beats me

The things that Christians do to make their Bible play catch up to science. A Christian once said that starlight started 6000 years he said that even though stars are billions of light years away the speed of light increased tremendously due to the effects of the sin of Noah's generation.

Yahweh the only God I know whose weaknesses are high buildings and iron chariots.

One guy told me that let there be light in Genesis talks of the big bang even though light came 400000 years after the big bang.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 5:49pm On Jan 13, 2016

johnydon22:
It is absurd to think that Modern 21st century men are revolving their thinking around these ridiculous books and try tooth and nail to defend it..

One guy once told me Circle means Round (Because someone brought up where the bible said "Circle of the earth which means flat earth"..

Someone born in the 21st century doesn't know Circle is entirely a different thing from round..beats me

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 3:10pm On Jan 13, 2016

Muslims in the house

Pls answer this question

Do you think Isaiah was talking about Jesus in this passage

Prelude - Isaiah 7:1-10
Judah is faced with invasion by its northern neighbours,
the Kingdom of Israel (also called Ephraim) and Aram-
Damascus (Syria), but God instructs the prophet Isaiah to
tell king Ahaz that God will destroy Judah's enemies
(Isaiah 7:1-10):
When Ahaz ... was king of Judah, Rezin, king of
Syria, and Pekah ... king of Israel, marched on
Jerusalem, they were unable to prevail against it.
When the House of David was told that Syria had
allied itself with Ephraim, their hearts and the
hearts of their people trembled ... But the Lord said
to Isaiah, "Go out to meet Ahaz, you and
Shearjushab your son, ... and say to him, 'Be firm
and keep calm, ... The Lord has said, 'It will not
happen...' [3]
The prophecy - Isaiah 7:11-16
Isaiah delivers God's message to Ahaz and tells him to
ask for a sign to confirm that this is a true prophecy
(verse 7:11). Ahaz refuses, saying he will not test God
(7:12). Isaiah replies that Ahaz will have a sign whether
he asks for it or not, and the sign will be the birth of a
child, and the child's mother will call it Immanuel,
meaning "God-with-us" (7:13-14); by the time the infant
"learns to reject the bad and choose the good" (i.e., is old
enough to know right from wrong) he will be eating curds
and honey, and Ephraim and Syria will be destroyed
(7:15-16):
7:11 יא שְׁאַל- לְךָ אוֹת , מֵעִם יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ ; הַעְמֵק
שְׁאָלָה , אוֹ הַגְבֵּהַּ לְמָעְלָה .
"Ask a sign from the Lord your God, from
lowest Sheol or from highest heaven."
7:12 יב וַיֹּאמֶר, אָחָז : לֹא- אֶשְׁאַל וְלֹא - אֲנַסֶּה, אֶת-
יְהוָה .
But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, and I will not
test the Lord."
7:13 יג וַיֹּאמֶר, שִׁמְעוּ- נָא בֵּית דָּוִד : הַמְעַט מִכֶּם
הַלְאוֹת אֲנָשִׁים, כִּי תַלְאוּ גַּם אֶת- אֱלֹהָי .
Then he retorted: "Listen, house of David! Is it
not enough to try the patience of men? Will
you also try the patience of my God?
7:14 יד לָכֵן יִתֵּן אֲדֹנָי הוּא, לָכֶם --אוֹת : הִנֵּה
הָעַלְמָה, הָרָה וְיֹלֶדֶת בֵּן, וְקָרָאת שְׁמוֹ, עִמָּנוּ אֵל .
therefore the Lord himself shall give you a
sign: a maiden is with child and she will bear
a son, and will call his name Immanuel.
7:15 טו חֶמְאָה וּדְבַשׁ , יֹאכֵל -- לְדַעְתּוֹ מָאוֹס בָּרָע,
וּבָחוֹר בַּטּוֹב .
By the time he learns to reject the bad and
choose the good, he will be eating curds and
honey.
7:16 טז כִּי בְּטֶרֶם יֵדַע הַנַּעַר, מָאֹס בָּרָע -- וּבָחֹר
בַּטּוֹב : תֵּעָזֵב הָאֲדָמָה אֲשֶׁר אַתָּה קָץ, מִפְּנֵי שְׁנֵי
מְלָכֶיהָ .
For before the child knows to reject the bad
and choose the good, desolation will come
upon the land of the two kings before whom
you now cower."

600 years after the death of the prophet and Isaiah and the destruction of the two kingdoms he feared and King ahaz Matthew says this:

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took
place in this way. When his mother
Mary had been betrothed to Joseph,
before they came together she was
found to be with child from the Holy
Spirit. 19 And her husband Joseph,
being a just man and unwilling to put
her to shame, resolved to divorce her
quietly. 20 But as he considered these
things, behold, an angel of the Lord
appeared to him in a dream, saying,
"Joseph, son of David, do not fear to
take Mary as your wife, for that which
is conceived in her is from the Holy
Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you
shall call his name Jesus, for he will
save his people from their sins." 22
All this took place to fulfill what the
Lord had spoken by the prophet: 23
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and
bear a son, and they shall call his
name Immanuel" (which means, God
with us). 24 When Joseph woke from
sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord
commanded him: he took his wife, 25
but knew her not until she had given
birth to a son. And he called his name
Jesus.
— Matthew 1:18-25
“
Muslims what do you think about this

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 2:43pm On Jan 13, 2016

johnydon22:
This is the cheapest weak ass defence i have seen this year... So this angel that told muhammed this somehow had only the exact amount of assumption men of that century had.

One should have expected what an angel revealed to Muhammed from God himself to be correct..

Turns out both this angel and God needs to go to school and learn.. they need it

Solution to the problem

It is metaphorical or it has been mistranslated.

cool

johnydon22:
This is the cheapest weak ass defence i have seen this year... So this angel that told muhammed this somehow had only the exact amount of assumption men of that century had.

One should have expected what an angel revealed to Muhammed from God himself to be correct..

Turns out both this angel and God needs to go to school and learn.. they need it

Solution to the problem

It is metaphorical or it has been mistranslated.

But if a Muslim will see scientific blunders in the Bible they don't bother to think of whether it is "metaphorical"

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 1:47pm On Jan 13, 2016

Always read the Bible in Hebrew as well

Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by urahara(m): 11:19am On Jan 13, 2016

malvisguy212:
it's a choice,you love God or you Reject Him,concerning the wife of cain;bible does not specifically say it only cain and abel was the son of adam,. Although Cain
does seem to be the firstborn, the text is not clear
that Abel was the second born, but only that he was
the second son. Later, the narrative indicates that
Adam and Eve produced "other sons and
daughters." So, it is possible that Adam and Eve
produced daughters between the births of Cain and
Abel. It is also likely that others sons and daughters
were produced after the birth of Abel. We don't know how old Cain and Abel were when Cain murdered his brother, but they seem to be at least young adults, since they are both engage in a trade. for their
living.

Although the period of time between the birth of
Cain and the death of Abel is not given in the Bible, it would seem that this period was probably over 100 years, since the birth of Adam's next son, Seth is said to have occurred when Adam was 130 years old. Adam and Eve could have produced many daughters during that period of time.
It is possible cain would have marry one of this sister,God caused him may have lead to this.

It's a choice you love Lord Krishna or you reject him

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Christianity Etc › Re: Take Time To Read This! by urahara(m): 10:45am On Jan 13, 2016

alves4:
Einstein never said such. He became an atheist at the age of 12.

Actually he became a pantheist

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 10:40am On Jan 13, 2016

In the Hadith, Muhammad was given a revelation from the angel Gabriel as to why a child resembles the father sometimes, and other times the mother. The angel told him that it depends on which parent reaches their sexual climax first during conception (Bukhari 4:546). This has been disproved by genetics.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Believe Your Religion Is The Right One. by urahara(m): 3:30pm On Jan 12, 2016

39:4 If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created. 6:100-1 Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?

41:9-12 Say (O Muhammad, unto the idolaters): Disbelieve ye verily in Him Who created the earth in two Days ... He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured therein its sustenance in four Days ... Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days....

7:54 Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days. 10:3 Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days. 11:7 And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days. 50:38 We created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six Days. 57:4 He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days.

Many verses in the Qur'an make clear that the Injil is given to Jesus who was born several hundred years [about 1,400] after Moses. But in Sura 7:155-157 is the problem that Moses prays to Allah and in Allah's response to Moses we read Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures), - in the Taurat and the Gospel - .... -- Sura 7:157 The obvious problem is that the Gospel has not been revealed yet at that time, and nobody was able to find anything in it a nonexisting gospel.

Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians - whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right - shall have nothing to fear or regret. -- Sura 5:69 But just three verses further in the text it says Unbelievers are those that say: "God is the Messiah, the son of Mary." For the Messiah himself said: "Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord." He that worships other gods besides God, God will deny him Paradise, and the fire shall be his home. None shall help the evil-doers. -- Sura 5:72

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