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LordAdamX:
Lyon are lucky. Pep is unlucky. But I'd always relish another Barcaverse personality having a disasterclass.

-Lord

LordAdamX:
Why should a team with Dembele, Griezmann, Coutinho, FdJ, Arthur, Puig, and Fati be over-reliant on Messi?

Is that not a problem? If it's a problem, what has Messi done about it instead of establishing a Messi and Friends Old Boys Association?

You folks will be talking about the over-dependency like it started today or Messi is not directly contributing to it.

And I don't think you should be using the board as a yardstick. If Barto tells me it's about to rain, I'll carry sunglasses instead of an umbrella.

Messi is ruining his legacy and it has nothing to do with seeking a challenge. It's about responsibility. Two seasons back, I was here talking about how Messi is not a leader and it's why I don't rate him much, many cules were saying it's overrated and I'm picking on him because he's not expressive. Here we are two years later and he captained a 8-2 dismantling.

And right on cue, the Messi FC response is "he doesn't deserve this"...

This is not 1 or 2 yrs, na 5 years...

-Lord

tesppidd:
See ehn; if I was Messi i would leave immediately.
In order not to destroy my legacy and have a chance to get more glory before I retire.

In the past 1 year he has banged goals against Liverpool, Tottenham, Man U, Sevilla, Athletico, Napoli, Inter.

So when you reference Levante, what exactly are you talking about?


Barca's over reliance on Messi could never be over emphasized. You can't pretend it doesn't exist.

But that's a story for another day.



But back to the main issue;

Am sure PSG, Man City, Juve and even Bayern would sign him immediately he declares; screaming hallelujah.

That way he makes life very easy for himself, win more accolades and probably shatters more records.

So if ddippset was Messi, I don waka be that.
If I be Messi Papa, I go even kidnap am force am to leave Barca.


But am neither Messi nor his Pops.

It is me wanting him to stay.

Because I honestly believe that despite everything Barca would be making a grave mistake letting him go now.

Messi himself wouldn't want to take the easy way out and run to another billion pound club.

He would rather sink and swim with Barca.

Such loyalty is rare, and difficult.
It's a much bigger challenge than running to Madrid when they are in form or running to Juve because you can win 10 consecutive scudettos.


Forget what the fans think, even the club and the board would die to keep Messi.

Barca is shiit right now I concede.

But Like i elaborated above, the required clear out would be too massive to do in one fell swoop.
Sure It's long overdue but better late than never!

We need a coach who can build a fresh team while still working to curb the infamous Messi-dependency.

tesppidd:
Point out to me where I consoled Messi before you dragged me into this.

Oya show me the post where I talked about Messi before your post yesyerday calling me out.

Am waiting USBcable.

I realise that whenever you have nothing to say you resort to the consistent blackmail about my being a Messi fan.

Whenever you have got nothing more to say!

LordAdamX:
You dey use back hold dam wen 1 burst. Don't say you were not warned.

2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, now 2020. That's five straight years that Messi has been unceremoniously bundled out from UCL. Same Barcelona team.

If this repeats next year, na your fellow cules go begin loud am say e don overdue to comot. And you Messi fans will not be able to stop it. The sentiment is already there. It's bubbling underneath. Every FCB online community has a rapidly rising half who feel the same way. Many are masking it with "other players are awful so he should leave." Very soon na finger dem go start dey point.

Madrid, Juve, and Barca are not on the same page at all. No let results deceive you.

Madrid is rebuilding and things are already looking up.

You can't replace a player like Ronaldo. His time with us has ended. And getting to the UCL SF consecutively is not the norm for any club. That consistency is only possible when stars align. Elite clubs with WC players fumble all the time. That's perfectly normal. Look at Bayern: After this yr, dem go cold. Like Liverpool don cold after two years. Then until 3-5 years before things go click again.

That's where Madrid is at now. And have two trophies, an elite core, and a legendary manager to show for it.

Juve has been punching above their weight. If it wasn't for Allegri's masterclass and a very good core, they had no business getting to 2 UCL finals.

They got Ronaldo for 2 reasons. Commercial appeal to raise revenues and out of desperation after 24 years of lack of success in the UCL. They've got the first. They might yet get the other. They're already rebuilding. They have a core midfield of Rabiot, Bentancur, and Arthur. De Ligt and Demiral are favorites to replace Bonucci and Chiellini. Kulusevski and Dybala are up front. And they're seriously looking to replace Higuain with a young 9.

That's not a board that's building around a 36 year old. They're building a team that'd have a winning mentality, keep winning the scudetto as a baseline, and be favorites for the UCL even after CR7 leaves. They want to be at the level of Madrid, Barca, and Bayern, where every year they're favorites, not have one good year and then drop off.

Ronaldo for his part has single-handedly transformed how the entire top office thinks and hastened the dismantling of the old guard. Mandzukic, Khedira, Pjanic, Matuidi, Barzagli, Buffon. Cuadrado was on his way out, the Cancelo flop got him back in the team. Costa na from operating table to outbound jet nai remain.

Sarri came out after the Lyon ouster and said in the press conference that he was satisfied with how the team played. Bonucci said after the game that they had achieved their season objective (Scudetto) and the UCL is a dream. Hours later, CR7 said on Instagram that a club like Juventus cannot be thinking like that.

Next day, Agnelli (President) said the UCL is no longer a dream but an objective and sacked Sarri. Days after the Sporting Director Paratici said Sarri would get another year.

In comparison, Barcelona is a clusterf*ck. What are you guys doing? What is Messi doing? What is the fanbase doing beyond making excuses for favorite players? You had four whole years to build around 29-yr old Messi after Puyol/Xavi/Neymar/Enrique. I 8-2 point it out that it did not work. Now you want to build around and pamper a 33-yr old Messi? How about you build a very good team and let Messi be the icing on the cake?

This is how Messi destabilized the Argentine national team when talent is overflowing in every region of the pitch and why Argentines have a love-hate relationship with him.

Messi winning Pichichi and assisting in the double digits against the likes of Levante is WHAT YOU EXPECT from a #10 of his caliber. Na Benzema b e mate b4?

Them give am armband, give am highest salary in all of world football, remain small them go rename stadium to Camp Leo; yet for five consecutive years dem just dey embarrass the crest of the club and he's comfortably strolling and dropping shoulder. And you guys are saying he has paid his dues; like the club hasn't also overpaid his own dues. Would Maradona, CR7, Pele, or Zidane accept that nonsense. Na him mates b that... Mk e allow 13 yr-old virgins dey confuse am with adulation.

Mk e no worry, na e legacy e dey destroy. Barcelona is all he has. If na disgrace him use tk comot, na Zidane dem go dey compare am with.

For as long as Messi has stayed, the least Barcelona deserves is him leaving the club better than he met it. Not this dumpster fire that he's engineering. Everytime Messi does not deserve this... Barcelona nko?

Seriously, nai mk me no troll una with the loss, na d club I dey pity... I mean, as a Madrid fan, I couldn't have imagined better entertainment. But it was funny the first 4 years while we had our fairytale B2B2B, now it's just sad.

-Lord

TalabiAudu:
I'm very happy as a rival they've not seen the light.

Let that cycle continue! Amen!

tesppidd:
You think you have arrived because you have Vinicus.

See how you got dumped out of UCL home and away by our wife Man City.

Let's see how you will ever smell the UCL again without Ronaldo.

You dumped Ronaldo and Juve snapped him up.
Today Ronaldo is the best thing that has happened to Juve and their next project is to build a team around him.
Juve are keen on building their team around man going to be 36 years old in February.
Let that sink in!
Don't be fooled by your VARliga. Real Madrid without Ronaldo are not special anymore.


The day we let Messi go at 33 is the day we become a very average team that will struggle to be a top team and challenge for la liga.

Griezman and Dembele are not at the level of the next line of superstars like Mbappe, De Bryune, Sterling and Neymar.


Look at the stats Messi posted in la liga this season!
Messi practically bossed the whole of la liga in terms of all the individual stats you can think of.

We let Messi go and a top top top European team will grab him and build a solid team around him for another 3 years.

You don't get it do you? The world will most likely not see any player like Messi and Ronaldo in another 50 years.

They must be pampered.

If you guys had only pampered Ronaldo perhaps with the solid team you have with a lot of fresh blood, both parites (Real and Ronaldo) won't be flopping separately today in the UCL.

They might even have won another UCL together.

Even at 33, I could only think of maybe 3 players with greater ability/value than Messi today.(and that's strictly because of their ages)

Neymar
Mbappe
De Bryune
Maybe Sterlin


Barca has got 2 options now;

1. Keep Messi and rebuild another fresh team around him for another 3 years. Replace the oldies like Suarez, Rakitic, Alba, Busquets and co with younger better faster players.

2. Let him go to another big European team which would definitely build a solid team around him and try to get the best out of him for another 3 years. Then manage Dembele and Griezman whom we DREAM are our next superstars after Ronaldnho and Messi.

Of course I know that there are a lot of us who would rather gamble with it and want Messi sold now; with the hope of rebuilding a new team.

But as we do that we would do well to remember A.C. Milan, Manchester United and Inter Milan who are still gasping 10 years later.

Neimar:
This club sha

Man City or Barca is winning it

Kill yourselves

jpmoriarti:
See these low-lives They want PSG to win UCL so Mbappe will have no more reason to remain in Paris. He'll now pack his bags and head to Madrid for 'new challenge '

Y'all get this into your thick skull... PSG is a prison. Mbappe will NEVER leave while the Qatari owns the club. The earlier y'all losers start cutting your coat according to your cloth, the better. Mbappe is bigger than Real Madrid.

jpmoriarti:
Usbcable, party no dey tire you Na lost, we lost. We no kee any person

Krasid:
It's 8:02am. Good morning Barça fans.
I just read an interview about Goretzka saying he enjoyed humiliating Messi and Barça.
Also read one last night of Muller saying this match was different from Germany hammering Brazil because they dominated Barça.
These German players are brutal on and off the pitch. No spirit of sportsmanship at all.

weedtaker:
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tesppidd:
Are we comparing quarter finals or second round matches.

Because last I checked; both Ronaldo and Real Madrid did not make the quarter finals.

They crashed out in the second round?

Are you smoking something USBcable.

TalabiAudu:
I said it Barca was a disaster waiting to happen.

It's all there from the beginning of the season.

They can't play fairly against a decent team talkless top team.

Messi cannot perform against anyone not in the likes of Eibar or Mallorca, we told them, they said we were trolls.

Now disgrace of the century don happen.

Messi is done
This is the beginning of a very long long Woe of Barcelona FC.







If you are a Madrid fan, Smile...

LordAdamX:
Me I won't troll.

E pain me for una. Chai!

Good night all!

-Lord

TLona1:
We should have just lost to Napoli

BykeLaByke:
Remontadaaaaaaàaa?

Lana1:
Messi never even retire and Barca don wash.

Debroslink:
I just dey read dey laugh at their delusional comments.

nihilistjnr:
Where is dippset tesspidd etc

TalabiAudu:
Useless club.

Even Chelsea no worse like this

HIRAETH:
Nairaland doesn't have the emoji to describe how I feel
Forca Barca

TLona1:
Barcelona is beating Bayern Munich tonight.

Adiwana:
Did you watch our Napoli game?? Dude wasn't comfortable with the ball and gave away a lot of loose passes. He had De Jong covering for him all game and was very slow tracking back. If Napoli had hit us from that flank,we would've at least conceded another goal.

The thing is Bayern is not Napoli. I don't honestly see Davies overlapping cause of the space he will create which will allow Messi explore and Gnabry pace for pace can be matched Semedo. This will lead to Gnabry switching to the right where he will now meet Alba which is where our problem will come from

Last thing we need in this game is a player who'll start crying after halftime

TalabiAudu:
Bayern would dismantle this blunt that can't function outside Catalonia.


Swears, Cules. Don't put your hope too high for this match.

Bayern is very wicked oo
Pray for a humbling defeat with Barca playing well but unlucky.

Else those non-smiling Germans would demolish your club, whoop you in possession, corners, shots...

jonsnow92:
I'll reply to this after the game.

Taguchi:
Insha Allahu we go win ....it will be very interesting, I will be watching with a very relaxed mind

Mcleo007:
The only reason it is even a 50-50 is because we have a deficient coach who cant take bold decisions and start the right players. Only 4-5 players in this Bayern team will walk straight into this Barca first eleven. A combined eleven of both teams shows its 50-50 and the side that takes the most of its chances would go on to win. It will never be rout.

A combined 11 of both teams' starters:

Goalkeeper= MATS over M. Neur
RB= J. Kimmich over N. Semedo
LB= A. Davies over weak man J. Alba
CB= G. Pique = He is light years ahead of J. Boateng even at the twillight of his career.
CB= C. Lengelet = He is a better Left sided CB to D. Alaba
DMF= S. Buequets= A. Goretzka doesnt come close here
CMF= Its definitely a tie between FDJ and Thiago A. Hard to choose who is better.
AMF= T. Muller over A. Vidal
RWF= GOAT no contest here
LWF= S. Gnabry over A. Griezman
CF= R. Lewandoski over overwieght L. Suarez

5 Barca players
5 Bayern players
A tie between FDJ and Thiago

Bayern are good, but definitely not superior to Barca even if this Barca team has been shit all season and can disappoint when you least expect them. They can also pull up maximum surprises and grind out results when you write them off. Tonights' game is nobodys really and can swing either way. This would be Bayern's toughest game of the season. They faced an amateurish Chelsea side so you can call them super powers at the back of that.

ABOVE all, a motivated Messi on beast mode is something no team canhandle, even when he is battling a knock.

Adiwana:
I think that's to our advantage. We've buckled under pressure for the past two seasons as favorites so perhaps as underdogs,that pressure will come off. Plus Bayern have been very cocky this past few days and I have a feeling of 2015 happening once again

jpmoriarti:
Yes ooo They have more than enough motivation heading into this match. No excuses.

patrickmuf:
I don't care about the form Bayern are in, Messi will decide how the game ends. If Messi tuns up, no team in the world can stop Barcelona...

Boateng and Neuer will be scared seeing Messi take to the field. I hope that in the first 10-15mins, Messi will have the chance to run at Boateng as that will leave Bayern scared.

Talking about motivation, if the players are not motivated by the fact that virtually everyone has written them off then they don't deserve this stage.

khingTony:


We go shock them, no worry

BoleAndFish:
Imagine a Coutinho goal and assist tonight.

usbcable:
Eyin temi baaaawoo ni oooo

lelelelelelelelel

nihilistjnr:
Vidal said This. Is. Barca!

He thought he was Gerard Butler

nihilistjnr:
Where is that nigga tesspidd

I want his blood tonight

usbcable:
i know but i choose my own meaning.

bayern to dismantle this barca squad finally

jpmoriarti:
Bayern has been arrogant recently. They'll get what's coming to them.

Besides, the dismantling of the squad i meant was rebuilding and overhauling. We have a couple of players over the ages of 30. We need to reduce that and add freshness to the team. Some players are now laid back, lacking motivation. We need to move those on.

jpmoriarti:
Very mediocre!

This squad still owes the fans and the club, at least one more epic performance before it is finally dismantled.

monerozi5590:
I will be very happy if Atletico Madrid win this UCL

biomustry:
We don beat them, what now