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 Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 12:43pm On Sep 26, 2019 |
Cyrus the great as Dhul Qarnayn It is quite indeed interesting theory. Cyrus may qualify as Dhul Qarnayn if we take into account the size and location of his empire: Syria and Asia minor in the west, Indus in the east and Caucasus up north. More noteworthy, Cyrus qualify as Muslim(Zoroastrian) and an honorable ruler far more than Alexander. The fatal flaw in the Cyrus theory is that no walls have been related to have been built by him. Not in legends, not in historical records. 1 Like |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 12:43pm On Sep 26, 2019 |
Dhul Qarnayn as Alexander the great In the formative years of Islam, the character most associated with the title was Alexander the great. Alexander built a massive empire in the third century BC, legends say that he traveled so far east and west seeking the rising and setting places of the sun. And also that he helped erect a massive wall to keep barbaric invaders away. No wonder the earlier scholars didn't really dispute Alexander as the identity of Dhul Qarnayn. And so it was all OK, except for one little problem. Alexander was known a pagan, a worshipper of Greek gods. It would be a matter of time before later scholars start questioning the Alexander theory. 1 Like |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 12:42pm On Sep 26, 2019 |
4. Dhul Qarnayn In the 18th chapter of Qur'an, the reader is introduced to the titular character - Dhul Qarnayn(the two horned), a powerful emperor who traveled far east and far west(setting and rising places of the sun), and up north where he built a mighty fence to stall invasion of barbaric tribes(18:85-98). As the Qur'an never identify character by a proper name, it is my suspicion that the author expects the reader to have been familiarized with Dhul Qarnayn from external sources. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:53pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Sahih Muslim » The Book of Manners and Etiquette When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read" O sister of Harun" (i. e. Hadrat Maryam) in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:49pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
"But usermane", you might say, "Why do I care? Qur'an never said Amran was father of Moses!" Fair enough. But who is Aaron? There is only one Aaron mentioned in the Qur'an - the brother of Moses!! Muslim apologists have sought alternative meaning for "sister of Aaron", saying that sister might not mean blood sister, but sister in creed. This is in negligence of the fact that "brother/sister of" never qualifies the relationship between individuals that neither met nor lived the same days. As can be seen in the following hadith, it does seem this became a huge conundrum for the early Muslims. In the end, no Muslim can identify Jesus or Mary with certainty. In short, as they say, "Allahu a'lam." 5 Likes |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:49pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
If it is indeed true that Judaism predate Christianity by nearly 2000 years, it would be inconceivable that Mary would be sister to Moses as the Qur'an seem to suggest. Meaning, unless the Qur'an mixed up the identities of these persons, they cannot be whom we've been bred to understand. Or could they? What if we're looking at co-incidences, what if Mary's father just happened to share the same name as Moses' father? What if Mary's brother just happened to share the same name as Moses' brother? Not only would such coincidence be too far fetched but it wouldn't be in honor of the author of Qur'an, especially as the Qur'an never alert the reader to such coincidence nor avert misunderstanding of relevant verses due to such coincidences. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:48pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
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| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:47pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
3. Mary/Jesus So, in the Qur'an, there is only one woman mentioned by name - Mary. Which makes it strange that Muslims do not understand her person. Muslims claim that she begot the penultimate prophet - Jesus - the man whom mainstream Christians worship as God, or the son of God. Jesus lived in the 1st century, where he founded Christianity many centuries before Muhammad. There is overlooked, yet fundamental difference between the Jesus/Mary of Muslims/Christian tradition and the Jesus/Mary of the Qur'an. In the Qur'an, Mary was daughter to Amran & sister to Aaron, and this Aaron was brother to Moses. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 5:20pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
There are several other theories among Muslims about the seven heavens. Some say they are spiritual realms or alternate dimensions that we cannot sense. Again, the phrase "Do you not see" utterly rebuff such theories. Next, more modern Muslims decide the seven heavens to be layers of the atmosphere - troposphere, stratosphere, mesosphere, thermosphere, ionosphere, exosphere and magnetosphere. Of course, you might have heard this touted as scientific miracle of the Qur'an. But you see, while six of the atmospheric layers are stacked above themselves, one of them, the magnetosphere, cut across or overlap all six other layers. Not to mention that the layering of the atmosphere is not visible. You cannot look at the sky and tell the troposphere from the stratosphere. So, the reader of the Qur'an cannot SEE that God has created the seven layers of the atmosphere, one above the other. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 5:19pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs If you pick up your telescope to explore the night sky, you cannot count the heaven(s). To this, the apologists say that we cannot count the seven heavens because we can only see the nearest heaven. Yet in the Qur'an, it is likely implied that we can see the 7 of them. For instance, 71:15 says; "Do you not see how Allah has created the seven heavens, one above another". The phrase, "Do you not see" is indication that the seven heavens created can be seen by the reader. If we cannot see the seven heavens, the phrase "Do you not see" would be pointless. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 5:19pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
2. The Seven Heavens
The first Muslims thought the heavens to be solid matter. As Ibn Abbas points, the seven heavens are layers of domes stacked together like 7 floors of a tower. This understanding of seven heavens would fit the prevalent understanding of the cosmos in the 7th century. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:55pm On Sep 23, 2019 |
Now that it is clear that it makes no sense for the Qur'an to ask Christians to follow the Injeel if it has been lost or will be lost in future, the only other proposition left is that the Injeel is the New testament of today. But such proposition would be problematic because the Qur'an itself already states it CONFIRMS the Injeel whereas there is plenty of contradictions between the Qur'an and the New testament. So, alas, we ask again. What really is the Injeel? |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:55pm On Sep 23, 2019 |
If the Injeel indeed is lost, how then do Christians of today live by it? The apologists claim that at the time this verse was revealed, the original Injeel still exist, but today it has been lost. A counter claim to this is that since the Qur'an is a guide, it should've warned all that the Injeel will be corrupted, instead of urging the Christians to live by it. Or God, the author of Qur'an should've preserved the Injeel like He promised for the Qur'an. Now, when we speak about New Testament preservation, the Muslim apologists are in full ignorance about it. For not only can today's New Testament manuscripts be traced to the days of Muhammad, but to as far back as the 2nd Century AD. Yes, and when I say New Testament, I mean virtually all passages of the New testament. So, if the Injeel was corrupted, it was corrupted even before Muhammad, therefore it'll be completely ridiculous that the same Qur'an require Christians to live by the Injeel. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Islam for Muslims / 5 Qur'anic Terminologies No Muslim Understand by usermane(m): 2:55pm On Sep 23, 2019 |
1. The Injeel Qur'an repeats that Injeel is the book delivered to Jesus, just like the Qur'an is delivered to Muhammad. So, if we were to look through the Christian religious texts of today what would be the equivalent of the Injeel? The New Testament. The New testament is believed by Christians to have come after Jesus, written by noble men under divine inspiration. The Muslim scholars contend that New Testament is not the Injeel, but a distorted, adulterated remnant of the Injeel. Yet, not only does the Qur'an never warn readers that Christians HAVE tempered with the Injeel or WILL tamper with the injeel, the Qur'an also demand that Christians live by the Injeel. Qur'an 5:47 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: The Quran Is The Speech Of Allah by usermane(m): 4:01pm On Sep 06, 2019 |
k4kenny: Qur'an was revealed in human language, so it should follow the rules of human language in order not to confuse readers. If I was a non-Muslim reading Qur'an for the first time, how do I know that Allah is the one talking in this verse? 1 Like |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: The Quran Is The Speech Of Allah by usermane(m): 3:52pm On Sep 06, 2019 |
AbuTwins: Can you show one verse where Allah swears by himself? The verse reads more like someone, likely an angel was speaking to Muhammad. This is the clearest impression. |
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