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Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 6:40am On Nov 28, 2016
joseph1832:
Well, I believe the amount of logic and reason I witnessed in this thread by many is hypocritical.

They can use logic and reason to call out a man's lies, but fail to use the same logic and reason to call out their pastor's lies.

Doesn't that reek of massive double standard?
Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 6:40am On Nov 28, 2016
joseph1832:
Well isn't that why the designer of the universe is docile? So much that he allow men play god?
well He gives men that honor but when they misuse it... His judgement cannot be docile...for He said vengence is mine I will repay... amen
Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 6:33am On Nov 28, 2016
butterflylion:
SEE HOW HARD IT IS TO BE GOD? ONLY SMALL POWER MR S. HAS OVER NL, WATCH HIM RUNNING AROUND CLOSING THREADS THAT SEEK TO EXPOSE TRUTH, BUT LEFT THE ORIGINATOR OF FALSEHOOD OPEN.


THE WORLD IS WATCHING.
TOMORROW YOU SHALL FIND YOURSELF NEGOTIATING A BUSINESS DEAL WITH SOMEONE, TODAY SHALL BE RECALLED.

THIS DISHONESTY SHALL BE RECALLED.

TODAY IT SEEMS SWEET BECAUSE ITS DONE AGAINST CHRIST AND CHRISTIANS, TOMORROW EVEN FELLOW ATHEISTS SHALL SHUN YOU, because OF TODAY'S ACTION. For although they try to cover the truth, deep down they know the truth. They know how hard you are trying to cover this truth.

Who will feel comfortable doing business with you after now Oluseun?

Thanks for the anticipated ban.
i was shocked to discover that seun have closed the thread on how hardmirror deceived him and their likes on the suoernatural and made this thread to stand.... i agree with you brother... the counsel of the ungodly shall not stand... the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church.... seun take note.... lies must fail...
Christianity EtcRe: How "Pastor To Athiest" Fooled Them - Supernatural/magic by uvalued(op): 8:32pm On Nov 27, 2016
tosyne2much:
I was startled when I read Hardmirror's thread.. I'm in between believing and not believing sha
that is the sinister plot was...to build doubt not from truth but lies... angry angry i was almost swayed but patiently read his cooked up story... and discovered how deceitful his story was...
Christianity EtcRe: How "Pastor To Athiest" Fooled Them - Supernatural/magic by uvalued(op): 8:29pm On Nov 27, 2016
chrmn1:
my guy don run 440
hohoho claiming medically induced or mind manipulating activity is SUPERNATURAL and they were so "enlightened" to ignore that point
Christianity EtcRe: How "Pastor To Athiest" Fooled Them - Supernatural/magic by uvalued(op): 5:32pm On Nov 27, 2016
Hardmirror.... grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism Is Dying! Currently On Life Support! by uvalued(m): 5:17pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
@ naijadeyhia

Superb article

Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .

China as an atheist state is intolerant of religious beliefs and practices , totally verboten but Christians keep proliferating and it is projected to become the world's most Christian nation :

The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .

Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) cool .
they wont come to nairaland to testify... i hope they do
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism Is Dying! Currently On Life Support! by uvalued(m): 5:15pm On Nov 27, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Common thats just 9yrs from now and not 900yrs, Imagine loosing 6billion members in just 9yrs. I would want Jesus to tarry so more can come to know him or are you in a hurry to become worm food especially since you believe your life ends here.
lol grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: An Atheist Historian Proves Jesus Existed by uvalued(m): 5:03pm On Nov 27, 2016
Kalatium:
I wonder why atheist will try as much as possible to prove religion is wrong.
more correctly Christianity...pls
Christianity EtcRe: D by uvalued(m): 5:02pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
For the umpteenth time , this is Judaism - Jewish culture , tradition , religion . This was their culture practiced thousands of years ago , it is now old fashioned and don't apply to Modern day Christians .
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Come And See Witches O by uvalued(m): 4:22pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:
Yeah what's funny
hmm learning how you and hardmirror would not be on the same page on SUPERNATURAL
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Come And See Witches O by uvalued(m): 3:31pm On Nov 27, 2016
damogul:
grin grin grin My brother when two kolo jam the view from a spectators standpoint is very interesting o.
grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Come And See Witches O by uvalued(m): 3:24pm On Nov 27, 2016
ifenes:
You don't fit your label sorry.... And please stop using "We" to what you do not know.

Since you claim to reject things without evidence,I wonder if you asked for evidence when you were told there were 9 Planets in the Solar system. Have you personally seen other Planets? You were made aware that modern human who study science,whom you call "Scientists" know only 10%of how the Universe works,which obviously mean they don't know anything. You base your knowledge on these guys?

You don't even know what God is or what was mis-translated as God. Nature is big and vast and stuff people call Super-natural are misinterpreted. All things are natural.

Problem is someone like you is as closed minded as a indoctrinated person. You may not be religious but you follow a movement.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Come And See Witches O by uvalued(m): 3:23pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:
Well I think I do ifenes.
Secular humanist reject everything that has no concrete evidence. We don't believe in any God especially not one that will solve human problems. We believe only humans can save themselves. We believe in human equality and freedom.
You should read more on it
Cause I know my sh!t, I didn't just pick the name
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Come And See Witches O by uvalued(m): 3:20pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:
Ifenes and his mumbo jumbo grin
That's why I'm also a secular humanist. I reject all things supernatural.
grin grin

so secular humanist reject ALL THINGS SUPERNATURAL!!!
Christianity EtcHow "Pastor To Athiest" Fooled Them - Supernatural/magic by uvalued(op): 3:02pm On Nov 27, 2016
Our opening scripture is Job 5:13
New Living Translation
He traps the wise in their own cleverness so their cunning schemes are thwarted.

English Standard Version
He catches the wise in their own craftiness, and the schemes of the wily are brought to a quick end.

New American Standard Bible
"He captures the wise by their own shrewdness, And the advice of the cunning is quickly thwarted.
Following the explosive topic which was started by the "PASTOR TURNED ATHEIST" in the person of HARDMIRROR... the athiest community on nairaland, rallied round to give him support such as ...they know themselves grin grin grin grin.

It was a nice piece of drama to entertain the athiest community and what a crowd puller that it nearly caused some earthquake on nairaland religion section. But many of us quietly read starting from the beginning, skipping peoples comments to see his reasons of his disbelief.

However, one post got me startled and brightened my read on that i felt "WHAT!", can an athiest believe such ... this made me follow bumper to bumpa inche by inche to see his other reasons of why he disbelief in God...

Gradually, Sons of God started seeing the holes through his stories such as the NAME OF THE DEAD guy that has span pages and almost 2 threads and the modification of topic... phew... it was an explosive encounter.

However, i have been posting and querying hardmirror on this his post that made me believe that athiest did not bother to read and comprehend but jumping upanddan to celebrate their infamous hero...hardmirror.

This is the post and my question that i believe the athiest community have beel fooled as the above bible quote have shown...

HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
I LOSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE, Jesus and RELIGIOUS CONCEPT OF GOD.
Before I continue.
Miracles exists
Witchcraft
Speaking in tongues is real
Everything supernatural about christianity is real.
What is not real is the reason behind it.
It is just like magic.
Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45205356
supernatural - of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

magic- the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.

reference google.

are these you stated based on supernatural/magic

HardMirror
I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic.
can TRICKS BE MAGIC? undecided undecided

From my understanding, athiest community believe in what science can repeatedly show in the lab grin grin grin And then they celebrated him forgetting that everything must be taken as a whole... and i find it surprising that NOT ONE athiest raised that observation that a fellow athiest can be bold to claim the following...

Miracles exists
Witchcraft
Speaking in tongues is real
Everything supernatural about christianity is real.
What is not real is the reason behind it.
It is just like magic.
Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.
shocked shocked shocked shocked

REAL...SUPERNATURAL...MAGIC??

So i really find the above bible quote has really come to pass and i laugh in tongue... to my fill... amazing... how athiest have been made a laughing stock.

looking up the simple definition of the following, are they SUPERNATURAL/MAGIC or MEDICAL/PSYCHATRIC
placebo

a harmless pill, medicine, or procedure prescribed more for the psychological benefit to the patient than for any physiological effect.

adrenaline
a hormone secreted by the adrenal glands, especially in conditions of stress, increasing rates of blood circulation, breathing, and carbohydrate metabolism and preparing muscles for exertion.

hypnosis
the induction of a state of consciousness in which a person apparently loses the power of voluntary action and is highly responsive to suggestion or direction. Its use in therapy, typically to recover suppressed memories or to allow modification of behavior by suggestion, has been revived but is still controversial.

derangment
a disturbance of normal bodily functioning or operation <derangements in the secretion of adaptive hormones—Hans Selye>

delusion
an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of [size=18pt]mental disorder[/size].


hallucinations
an experience involving the apparent perception of something not present.

intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic.

[size=18pt]The above does not sound anywhere close to SUPERNATURAL OR MAGIC.... except they want to claim otherwise[/size] grin grin grin grin
Car TalkRe: What Do You Do If Your Car Has No Custom Papers. by uvalued(m): 1:23pm On Nov 27, 2016
NwamaziNwaAro:
Hello all.
I was driving to Owerri and on the road I saw over 12 already registered vehicles impounded by the custom officials who have a check point there.

Can someone experienced tell me what to do if your car has no valid custom papers,

Can the custom papers be gotten?

Is there a legislation that protects innocent car owners who do not know they were given fake custom papers.

Is there a fine to redeem impounded vehicleshuh

or will a car be forfeited once it is impounded by customs officials for not having custom papers.


Thank you

Most Nigerian drivers need this information to avoid getting into such unimaginable situation.

Cc: lalasticlala
PropertiesRe: Documents To Ask For When Buying Land Anywhere In Nigeria by uvalued(m): 1:21pm On Nov 27, 2016
babyvoice1990:
There are a number of crucial documents

1. Receipt

2. Approved survey plan

3. Approved layout

4. Power of Attorney

5. Deed of assignment

6. Certificate of Occupancy ( C of O)

I would categorize the people from which you can buy any parcel of land into three: An estate developer, an individual & directly from the family who claims to own the land. If you are dealing with an estate developer (buying within an estate), you should ask for the approved survey plan, approved layout, the power of attorney and the global C of O. If you are buying from an individual or company (one who has bought and wishes to resell), you should ask for the receipt, deed of assignment, approved survey plan and C of O.

Buying directly from the family who claims to own the land is quite tricky. This is because it is difficult to determine the true owners of the land especially when the documents showing ownership haven’t been processed.

Where the documents haven’t been processed, there are no documents to show authenticity and a prospective buyer has to really a great deal on word of mouth from the members of the community to ascertain the true owner(s) of the land in question.

When the documents have been processed, they should provide you with the approved survey plan, approved layout (where the land is a large one and is being sold on a per plot basis) and the C of O.

From my experience, families usually don’t go to the length of processing their C of O. Reason being that they hope to sell off their land in the near future thus only do the absolute minimum required to show authenticity, in this case the approved survey plan and layout, then passing it on to the buyer who would go on to perfect his/her title on the land.

NOTE: It is very important that you have a good property lawyer before embarking on land/property purchase. Reason being that your lawyer is the one who ensures that you don’t run into legal trouble with land/property documents after purchase. It’s your lawyer’s job to verify the authenticity of any title document backing the land/property.

PROPERTY SEARCH
Under the Lagos State Land Bureau:

Conducting a Search:
• Application submitted with affidavit of purpose (searches are conducted using the following criteria: – Name of Owner, Registration Particulars, Address of Property and Survey Plan.
• Letter of Authority (where applicable)
• Endorsement
• Bill for payment of Search Fees
• Tender Tellers
• Conduct Search

Work Flow for Registration of Title:
• Confirmation of all payment receipt (by Accounts Department)
• Collection of Form A13 from the Office of Registrar of Titles by Applicant – 1 day
• Duly completed Form A13 with supporting documents are submitted by Applicant to the Office of the Registrar of Titles
• A registration number & application number are issued to a certified application – 1 day
• Notice are prepared for interested parties signatures
• Reply to Notice is received and Draft Entries prepared
• An approved Notice is e-mailed /posted by registered post to applicant
• Prepared Notice are forwarded to Registrar of Titles for approval of issuance of Notice to Applicant
• Approval of Draft Entries
• Typing & Binding of Title
• Final Indexing of Title
• File is sent via the Deputy Registrar of Titles to ROT for signature
• Registered Title delivered to applicant

Work Flow for Registration of Deeds
• Submission of Application with relevant documents for registration of Deed by Applicants
• Application with accompanying documents are checked and endorsed
• Satisfied application/document are issued with registration number
• Application sent for indexing
• Applicant file is send to Deputy Registrar of Titles for signature
• File is sent to Registrar of Titles for second signature
• Registered Deed is delivered

Work Flow for Registration of Certificate of Occupancy
• Certificate of Occupancy is sent with a covering letter from LUAD to Office of Registrar of Titles
• The file is sent to the C of O room to add a file jacket to the C of O Form
• C of O is sent to the Deputy Registrar of Titles for signature
• C of O is sent to Registrar of Titles for second signature
• The details of registered C of O is entered serially in a day book
• The registered C of O is entered is a dispatch book and sent to LUAD for collection by applicants

http://www.ibejulekkilawyer.com/documents-to-ask-for-when-buying-land-anywhere-in-nigeria/
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 2:06pm On Nov 25, 2016
my question is answered... athiest does not believe in supernatural/magic as hardmirror claims...shame shame huh huh
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:38pm On Nov 25, 2016
jonbellion:
All these people lying and disgracing the athiest community sef angry
You are on your own oo
now una don see oh
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:36pm On Nov 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
He is clearly dishonest and I cannot be convinced otherwise. For someone that insisted that the christian should stand for truth and his refusal for posting the name was for ethical reasons. Imagine the tone disparity between the email and his voice here in the forum. Erratic memory indeed, for someone that he constantly referred to as brother who had died from ulcer from fasting but he can't even remember his name or even describe him. Even pa Buhari didn't forget VP Osunbade's name completely cheesy grin cheesy grin What else Mr Hardmirror can't you remember? Praying for at least 6 hours, fasting for more days in a year, converting over 300 people, word of knowledge, speaking in tongues...casting demons? The extent people go seeking relevance. If only NL pays for views and comments, he would have made bank with his threads but he did all these for free. Na wa.
like he said "everything about supernatural christiqn is real" then turns around to state the reason is not real.smh
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:30pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
pls has anybody seen hopefullandlord anywhere?
that is what i have said ... jumping upandan just to discretid the gospel ... the gates of hel shall not prevail against the church
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:28pm On Nov 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Mr HardMirror, so you were going on in the email about your erratic human memory but out here you were fronting confidence and absolute certainty. Shame! Shame!! Shame!!! What else don't you remember that you put up as part of your story? You are being proven a liar and the onus is on you to prove otherwise. You might even be a closet atheist with all the noise you have been making here smh shame! This NL sef. People wey no get mind dey form atheist. They could go on to check for the ASF evangelism coordinator to know exactly who you are but it isn't the purpose as it is still an anonymous forum. Where is the other one that cannot sleep without denigrating the name of God? Dr Belarus cheesy grin cheesy grin As for Seun, we can visit nairaland office cheesy grin cheesy grin Where is nairaland HQ anyway?
cc seun
johndon22
all atheist
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:25pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
Plus he could remember supposed details of other events and remember that the said brother died from fasting related issues and glowingly described how the brother leads prayer programs and how he comes to borrow their tent but conveniently forgot the name yet remembers the names of other people.

The guy is a lying Genius. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:23pm On Nov 25, 2016
damogul:
Awesome! 2 things jumped out at me on that email convo.

1) Hardmirror now claims to be unable to remember the name of the brother who died (even though active CACCF members on nairaland who were in that set have come out here to say nothing of such happened) Note Hardmirror says he is not a member of CACCF but a member of ASF so how can he claim to know more than those who are actually CACCF members?

2) HardMirror is now claiming that there could have been some inaccuracies due to the error of human memory.

If this were to be a law court then the verdict is in from the mouth of the accused.
hardmirror you see your life...so sad angry angry
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:10pm On Nov 25, 2016
raphieMontella:
stop derailing this thread pls
what... the thread is not about the name of the dead dude but other issues such.as supernatural/magic... which hardmirror has claimed as real. by the way here is the title of the thread

Christians, Point Out Hardmirror's LIES In "Pastor To Atheist"
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:07pm On Nov 25, 2016
Suprementos:
Do you know the brother called Eva T in 2009/2010?
me na just to watch and wait for hardmirror to give his submission then i jump in to seek his opinion on supernatural/magic
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:52pm On Nov 25, 2016
Howmon:
The names He mentioned already are not name of people I know. The CACCF caught my attention has it was my fellowship in school.
broza why u de throw bomb like boko haram for hardmirror territory.... abeg abeg i take God beg you to hold on abeg grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:44pm On Nov 25, 2016
raphieMontella:
the bolded is what i dont understand about the christians here..
They are jumping upandan but real pastors do deconvert daily...
as athiest like you having jumping upandan ... they should deconvert and not contradict themselves like hardmirror that medical/pschological sciences is supernatural c angry grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:40pm On Nov 25, 2016
iRyan:
Everyone here should calm down and take a chill pill. Hardmirror may have told a lie, but that shouldn't be a reason to rescind his story as every human is guilty of the same when they tell a story.
Everyone has sometime squeezed in a lie or two into their stories to make it fascinating and mesmerizing
grin grin chilling but when a christian makes some foolish action hell is let loose so much for single standard grin
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:38pm On Nov 25, 2016
gombs

Oh... He's got nothing to share, because it's mere lies.

I dared him severally to provide details of the Osogbo ones, he didn't.

He broke rule 8 and so did Seun..


In all fairness, they both deserve a lengthy ban. Funny, because this is not the First time this faux pas is done... And if not treated accordingly, would have a repeat.

If this was done to the Muslims, and Seun moved it to the front page, and it turns out to be a lie, let me give y'all possible scenario

1. He'd have long apologized or a "press release"
2. The above won't be necessary because he'd not have pushed it to the front page in the first place.
3. To avoid being lynched by them Muslims who could easily trace him, (y'all know they'd just tag it blasphemy)... That's the reason for reason 2

See how it goes? 3,2,1...


Well,i have seen mails of those who vehemently denied any death as hardmirror's claimed... I also smoothly wondered how all those Atheists and Muslims who had a filed day on that thread of his would bow their heads in shame.

Looking at it squarely, nairaland provides very weak environment for the respect of Christianity... Especially by Atheists who delusionally think they are an opposite of Christianity.

#EnoughIsEnough
Christianity EtcRe: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:37pm On Nov 25, 2016
Tdada:
I attended cac campus fellowship FUTA, even though I passed out in 2007, I'm well abreast of developments there till now. Please mention the name of the person in question. That shouldn't be too hard I suppose

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