Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 7:37am On Nov 24, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 7:33am On Nov 24, 2016 |
HardMirror: And you will also claim to be a christian. You claim I have admitted to being a fraud how? Did you live my life for me? I am telling you a brother died in the mentioned fellowship, can I reverse the past? I choose not to mention his name. And I won't no matter what you say. It won't change the fact about the dead brother. Let the so called alumni come and tell me he called his friends in the fellowship and it's a lie then. Not u or anyone else here that claim to be christians behave like one so u don't even have my respect talkless of me taking u folks serious. So keep it up, it changes nothing for me. so much for reality...  i yaff seen the light of athirst for knowledge... why are you protective of that name.. SEUN is a known athiest and who cares... he enjoys his biz so be man enough or rather be a HARDENED MIRROR to reflect the truth of the name of da spirokoko broza..for real  |
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teebillz: Buhari has nothing to offer. It is foolish to think otherwise. zomed to see what he was writteding |
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hmm the posters so far are not excited.. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 3:22am On Nov 24, 2016 |
howfa iyaff ear nothing ... PHD kwesion ... 1. what is the name of the spirokoko dude? 2. what is the name of the spirokoko dude? HARDMIRROR someone is suggesting its SOFTMIRROR..is it true  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Was God During Joker's/James Holmes Massacre by uvalued(m): 3:18am On Nov 24, 2016 |
oaroloye: I have answered this recently:
THERE WAS NO MINYAN in that city, is why that happened.
None of the victims was part of a MINYAN, nor CONTRIBUTED to a MINYAN- so all of them were "FAIR GAME."
UNBELIEVERS CONCEITEDLY THINK THEIR LIVES ARE IMPORTANT- SO THEY THINK THAT GOD, IF HE EXISTS, MUST ESTEEM THEIR LIVES TO BE VALUABLE- AND REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE EXISTENCE OF A CREATOR WHO DOES NOT PERCEIVE THEM AS VALAUABLE.
To God, there was no evidence these victims would ever amount to anything- so their disposal sooner instead of later was irrelevant.
God offers IMMORTALITY- but people ignore that, and go about their businesses and their entertainments- then have the temerity to demand to know where GOD was, when their FRIVOLITIES left them VULNERABLE! word |
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Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 7:09pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
chrmn1: Oga I have done the research on his behalf. The name of the guy is soft mirror. Google am and thank me later SOFTMIRROR lol - since the needed is not available, the vailable becomes the needed |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 7:08pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul: HardMirror i am still waiting for the name. It does not take 24hrs to provide a simple name of someone who you claimed died since 2010 in FUTA CACCF does it? maka repost till tomorrow ni |
Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 6:50pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HARDMIRROR why have you failed to defnd your new apostolic caling ... first u claimed you were insulted... now you are stomped ... okay let me ask damogul abeg make we do tinnytanna to choose which kwetion HARDMIRROR go answer e bi like say we de hit am from left right up down.... i will give you first from now reach tomorrow morning make HARDMIRROR gather him mind thrash that your PHD kwesion and after you go helep me post my kwesion for him make e answer.... HARDMIRROR answer damogul kwesion... wetin be dat name of dat spiro spiri koko bros who kaput during fasting wei you shout for here. HardMirror: Morning everyone. Now I really really laugh at some silly chaps here trying to corner me and tell me I don't really know christ. Someone asking me how I got the holy spirit with the manifestation of speaking in tongues. Lol! I made the first set of Baba Ogundare's Trainees. If only you know who Rev. Ogundare is. Or if only you know who Rev. Olusola Areogun is, you folks won't be spewing thrash here. Before I even met them I was already well seeped in the gospel. I don't just read the bible, I have books I have written based on the revelation of the holy spirit to me as I read the bible. At home I was regarded as a prophet. I prayed at least 6hrs none stop everyday. My mum felt I was called for a special assignment so she encouraged me after many attempts to stop me. She used to be scared I would die of fasting. And yeah people die of fasting. Had a brother in CAC campus fellowship FUTA that died around 2010 from complications that were a result of fasting.
You christians here have no idea the kind of life I lved for christ.
I lived so well for god that when I became an atheist, I became the type that if you visit me to preach to me, you will leave almost throwing your bible away.
Nairaland is not enough to tell it all. I am the kind of guy that if I had continued as a christian would have ended up a legend.
So dear christians hold your horses. Now shall I continue?
Continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/4#45202884 i no go ask u any kwesion until you trash this one for damogul then by morning i go ask my own join u don hear me ko |
Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 3:04pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HARDMIRROR why naw... u de still trying to figure the name... abeg no allow this thread fail... what is supernatural and magic?  some athiest on this thread have said we are troubled |
Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:43pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
i no wan make una see me as deceitful i quote HARDMIRROR verbatin HardMirror: Morning everyone. Now I really really laugh at some silly chaps here trying to corner me and tell me I don't really know christ. Someone asking me how I got the holy spirit with the manifestation of speaking in tongues. Lol! I made the first set of Baba Ogundare's Trainees. If only you know who Rev. Ogundare is. Or if only you know who Rev. Olusola Areogun is, you folks won't be spewing thrash here. Before I even met them I was already well seeped in the gospel. I don't just read the bible, I have books I have written based on the revelation of the holy spirit to me as I read the bible. At home I was regarded as a prophet. I prayed at least 6hrs none stop everyday. My mum felt I was called for a special assignment so she encouraged me after many attempts to stop me. She used to be scared I would die of fasting. And yeah people die of fasting. Had a brother in CAC campus fellowship FUTA that died around 2010 from complications that were a result of fasting.
You christians here have no idea the kind of life I lved for christ.
I lived so well for god that when I became an atheist, I became the type that if you visit me to preach to me, you will leave almost throwing your bible away.
Nairaland is not enough to tell it all. I am the kind of guy that if I had continued as a christian would have ended up a legend.
So dear christians hold your horses. Now shall I continue?
Continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/4#45202884
dat must be spiro koko brother hia... em HARDMIRROR wetin you say be de name.of dat.dude...dat one no be for here oh... wetin be hin name |
Christianity Etc › Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:36pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
yes nice to continue here...HARDMIRROR this my kwetion never get answer yet I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic. hope i quoted you HARDMIRROR Are the bolded natural or supernatural... medical or magic?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:29pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:26pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul: I am just carrying out my civil rights of truthful interrogation  yeah oh freedom of expression at its best.. HARDMIRROR please tell damogul da name of da dude that died from fasting...biko nu ... |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:23pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic. hope i quoted you HARDMIRROR Are the bolded natural or supernatural... medical or magic?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:13pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:09pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul: @ the OP
This is my only question as this would make or break your case.
You mentioned that a particular brother in the fellowship died from complications that came from fasting...A nairalander who also finished in 2010 from your school asked for the persons name since he did not hear of such a case and you did not respond.
NOW I ASK THE SAME QUESTION. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BROTHER WHO DIED VIA FASTING RELATED ISSUES? WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN CONFIRM THIS.
If you cannot provide this name and we affirm it happened then we have our conclusion.
cc HardMirror, hopefullandlord okay |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:07pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
PastorAIO: You are the one that is not getting the point. You are acting on the false premise that there are only 2 possibilities. There is either the Christian afterlife or the Atheist afterlife. Well in actual fact there are as many possible afterlifes as there are human ideas of an afterlife. There is the Hindu afterlife. There is the Muslim afterlife. There is the Ancient greek after life etc etc etc.
You want to suggest that a christian would be okay if he was wrong, but that is not true because if he meets allah in the afterlife then he is going to roast. I hope you get it now. 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:04pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
dopedude: What exactly did I lose. Since when I die there happens to be no heaven our life after death, but while here on earth I find peace and joy in my religion. but also think of the other side, What if you die and there happens to be heaven. What do you think you have lost. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:03pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
kayo80: I guess most Christians are too scared of God and hell to question anything or let their mind think of anything that remotely gives them the reason to doubt God's existence. Ironically, it was when I decided to read the bible from start to finish that I became an atheist. I just had too many questions, and thanks to Google, I started my own personal research. At first, I was very scared when the truth started revealing itself. One day, my heart was beating so fast, when it dawned on me...I thought I was going to have a heart attack. It is like having a rag over your face all your life, and having it suddenly taken off. It can be scary at first. I got to know the truth and it set me free. I became an atheist in 2010. wow clap clap clap... pls when will you open your own thread so you can share your points logically... fear of God and hell.. hell no... rather after i started dwelling on the abundance of grace and His gift of righteousness not the law emphasizing doctrine that has made most christians have a fearfull expectation of judgement... instead of becoming athiest... i became graceTHIEST who view the old via the lense of the new stament and that is why fear of hell has not been plaguing me...if you want sone messages i hear on grace... quote me and i will send you a link to download.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:52am On Nov 23, 2016 |
trueking: What page did the OP finish his story? all I see are arguments right from page 5. I have my reservations but I want to know what changed his belief. if i can remember when he could not perform eye opening of the a blindman.. but if i can remember even paul left a fellow sick who has been doing miracles yet he did not abandon Christ.. 20 Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick. 2tim 4:20 [quote][/quote]For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:42am On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror: You have lost nothing, but when you die and discover muslims where right then you have lost everything. Cos many muslims also find joy and comfort in Islam beautiful...but paul has this answer for you.. 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:38am On Nov 23, 2016 |
raphieMontella: you still lack comprehensive abilities... Mehn christians sef! May Nature help us! thank God you have no point so i pass and leave you with your comprehendo  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:36am On Nov 23, 2016 |
ishow2005: For the fact that HARDMIRROR has a xtian background, it will take extra ordinary effort for him to be completely free from thinking without xtianity affecting his judgement. Same is applicable to those born Muslims. ok |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:35am On Nov 23, 2016 |
ishow2005: If you r practising Islam in Nigeria and choose to become atheist, no one will kill u either but what did the two holy books says about apostasy. apostasy is departing the faith you once believed... well in the new testament, judgement is left for God to decide...that will be another topic... |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:30am On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror: Stop being deceitful, stop editing my posts! This is the full post
Why are you editing it? Why? You have posted your edited version about 10 times now so as to decieve people. I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this. Just as tricks are the secrets of magic. on the bolded... magic you would agree are mysterious and supernatural force which the above are measures done to manipulate the mind if practice according to stated but note that does not rule out beyond physical which is SUPERnatural. except you are implying supernatural is not supernatural but natural which i know its not the case... all those nice sounding words you stated are they SUPERNATURAL?  this is google definition of magic mag·ic ˈmajik/ noun noun: magic
1. the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces. "do you believe in magic?" synonyms: sorcery, witchcraft, wizardry, necromancy, enchantment, the supernatural, occultism, the occult, black magic, the black arts, voodoo, hoodoo, mojo, shamanism; More charm, hex, spell, jinx; pixie dust, fairy dust "do you believe in magic?" mysterious tricks, such as making things disappear and appear again, performed as entertainment. synonyms: conjuring tricks, sleight of hand, legerdemain, illusion, prestidigitation "he does magic at children's parties" a quality that makes something seem removed from everyday life, especially in a way that gives delight. "the magic of the theater" synonyms: allure, attraction, excitement, fascination, charm, glamour "the magic of the stage" informal something that has a delightfully unusual quality. "their seaside town is pure magic"
adjective adjective: magic
1. used in magic or working by magic; having or apparently having supernatural powers. "a magic wand" synonyms: supernatural, enchanted, occult "a magic spell" very effective in producing results, especially desired ones. "confidence is the magic ingredient needed to spark recovery" 2. informal wonderful; exciting. "what a magic moment" synonyms: fascinating, captivating, charming, glamorous, magical, enchanting, entrancing, spellbinding, magnetic, irresistible, hypnotic More  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 11:18am On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror: Stop being deceitful, stop editing my posts! This is the full post
Why are you editing it? Why? You have posted your edited version about 10 times now so as to decieve people. I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this. Just as tricks are the secrets of magic. aaahhh just finished enjoy rich suculent sugar cane... now to the issue you raised i wasnot being deceitful rather i wanted to state my point which we all know when quoting a statement you can quote part of a statement to stress your point. however if you want the whole to be quoted i will gladly do but still my point holds... now let me maintain your full quote hence forth... HardMirror: CONTINUATION... I LOSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE, JESUS and RELIGIOUS CONCEPT OF GOD. Before I continue. Miracles exists Witchcraft Speaking in tongues is real Everything supernatural about christianity is real. What is not real is the reason behind it. It is just like magic. Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.
https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45205356 much better i guess.... now using the quoted you need to show me how this your logic fits commonsense if some poor people dresses and smells like rich people and he is found out to be forming rich, is it logical to conclude that all rich people are poor forming rich?  in the same vein how can you jumble up "everything supernatural about christianity is real" then in your assumption lumped what is not true with real... i just dont get it.... googling "real" re·al1 ˈrē(ə)l/ adjective adjective: real; comparative adjective: realer; superlative adjective: realest
1. actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed. "Julius Caesar was a real person" synonyms: actual, nonfictional, factual, real-life; More historical; material, physical, tangible, concrete, palpable "is she a fictional character or a real person?" antonyms: imaginary used to emphasize the significance or seriousness of a situation or circumstance. "there is a real danger of civil war" Philosophy relating to something as it is, not merely as it may be described or distinguished. 2. (of a substance or thing) not imitation or artificial; genuine. "the earring was presumably real gold" synonyms: genuine, authentic, bona fide; use the above definition to explain "Everything supernatural about christianity is real" and then you turn to give an impression or imply that its not " real". hei even magic from its definition has supernatural and mysterious mag·ic ˈmajik/ noun noun: magic
1. the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces. "do you believe in magic?" synonyms: sorcery, witchcraft, wizardry, necromancy, enchantment, the supernatural, occultism, the occult, black magic, the black arts, voodoo, hoodoo, mojo, shamanism; More charm, hex, spell, jinx; pixie dust, fairy dust "do you believe in magic?" mysterious tricks, such as making things disappear and appear again, performed as entertainment. synonyms: conjuring tricks, sleight of hand, legerdemain, illusion, prestidigitation "he does magic at children's parties" a quality that makes something seem removed from everyday life, especially in a way that gives delight. "the magic of the theater" synonyms: allure, attraction, excitement, fascination, charm, glamour "the magic of the stage" informal something that has a delightfully unusual quality. "their seaside town is pure magic"
adjective adjective: magic
1. used in magic or working by magic; having or apparently having supernatural powers. "a magic wand" synonyms: supernatural, enchanted, occult "a magic spell" very effective in producing results, especially desired ones. "confidence is the magic ingredient needed to spark recovery" 2. informal wonderful; exciting. "what a magic moment" synonyms: fascinating, captivating, charming, glamorous, magical, enchanting, entrancing, spellbinding, magnetic, irresistible, hypnotic More so  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 7:55am On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror: They are like kids, sometimes you just have to feel for them even the great ONE stated that for one to be accepted in the kingdom one must be like a child... now this is from a statement from an elder which i have seen and respect HardMirror: Miracles exists Witchcraft Speaking in tongues is real Everything supernatural about christianity is real. and this was not spoken by a kid |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 7:51am On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror: There are many things that have thereputic effects. Laughing hysterically has effects, pacing up and down has effects, color of the walls in your room has effects, meditation has effects, speaking mumbo jumbo in a meditative way has effects. Grow up good. what you posted above is subjective to say the least. what laws/principes of chemistry/physics/biology or natural sciences support the above subjective reason of yours.... that is documented under peer review to be accepdted as facts |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 7:42am On Nov 23, 2016 |
raphieMontella: the guy is dumb...i notiiced it from the onset... Lacks simple comprehensive and reading abilitiies.. hoho when one holds up you people words and when it stirs you like REAL, you pop up words like "LOW IQ, DUMB, LACK COMPREHESION AND READING ABILITIES" and when one holds yall at the jugular of your reasoning, you would say pls go read some book or get a knowledge from library... ok pls mister know it all... what do you comprehend from your reading abilities thus HardMirror: Miracles exists Witchcraft Speaking in tongues is real Everything supernatural about christianity is real. take each on its merit to make us comprehend  |