Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 2:21pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: Never expected so many people to find this thread. And as I said before, I have given a lot of personal details. So sorry guys, no more updates. You saying my story is a lie does not make it a lie so those in this category can shove their opinion up their assssses cos I am not here to please you.
Using Reverse-psychology won't help either. You try to discredit me while actually your aim is for me to give more details about myself then you would be able to determine were and how to rubbish me. I get all these tactics. You have no idea who you are dealing with.
Will continue today anyway. Those who are here to preach and insult and what not should please save themselves all the stress. You all seem to be having a hard life. you should be true apostle for your new belief like paul who opposed judaism was persecuted,imprisoned etc yet he stood his ground.. for u be bold and continue and allow the insult come so that u can be a burner for athiest... dint cower under insult except your belief in atheism is straw... |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 2:12pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
jiggaz: You can say whatever but you MR NEW ATHEIST is a liar. This story is fake. You were never a believer let alone a Pastor doing miracles ( who dash monkey bananna? ).
One thing i have noticed is dat you are an agent of darkness trying to pull some Christians who were not grounded in the word of God to your side. But u know what? You have failed!!!! Loool. We exposed u!!! Your old posts points to the fact where you said you were a Satanist!! Yet you came here to claim Ex Pastor, may God have mercy on you. I don't have a problem with you being a Satanist but why do u have to be deceptive about it? Claiming you were once a Pastor, so that you can deceive Christians that are not yet grounded in the word? You hide under the umbrella of an atheist but you are not even an atheist cos you believe in a Supernatural Being. You are not proud to be a Satanist? Why? loool. Of course you know why.
Next time you want to pull such fake stunts, remember that we have people who are very intelligent here and who analyses people even online!! loool. You can never fool me, am too smart for you!!! Whether you are an Atheist or a Satanist, it's your own cup of Zobo!! I don't care!!! Why you see me in this thread is because i don't want u to deceive some impressionable Christians here.
As for me, nothing anyone says can make me reject Christ because you know what? I am a New Creation, the very righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. As Christ is in heaven, so am i on earth. God is real and whether you believe him or not, He is the same today, yesterday and for ever more!!!
So MR NEW ATHEIST kontinue in your new found vocation but what i know is dat this your story is a lie from the pit of hell!!! Lmaoo.... You were never a believer or a Pastor. You cannot even mention your name which shows You are a LIAR!!! So MR LIE-NUS, have a nice night, i don't buy your story, try another stunt.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 2:07pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: Sorry about your friend. When the rubber hits the road, you realize your faith was only based on cooked up tales. wow but miracles are real and you confirmed it...so you are eating your words that supernatural are cooed up tales...  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 1:51pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: Some guys are already frustrated.  "Op is a liar!!!" "Op is fake!!!" "Op was never a christian!!!" "Op is still a christian!!!" "Op has ran away!!!" Blah, blah, blah
 I have never seen sane people arguing with mad men on the road. And I have never seen people gather to thow stones at a tree without ripe fruits.
Let the ranters keep ranting. Frustration don catch una. continue nau make we see how supernatuarally believing athiest can believe in the supernatural at the same time |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 1:43pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
Thebrightest: Seriously Hardmirror come and complete the story. am on page 13 skipping and checking if he did continue...will get to p40 and see what the supernatural believing athiest have to say |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 1:25pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
jiggaz: Lie-nus!!! I suspected this to be a fake story from the beginning and i was right..... Hardmirror or whatever they call you, how much did they pay you for this? Complete the story you won't, yet you keep replying comments that never agree with you. Lol, come off it bro, u were never a Christian and this story is just made up. You have been noticed here, now run along. So i keep asking? What made you reject Christ? You wont say but keep beating about the bush. Whether you reject Christ or not, its your own cup of Zobo, who cares? You won't be missed bro, good luck in your new found vocation.
I even feel like beating myself for following this thread. Nigerian people & mischief #smh. i have been queitly reading and i a seeing some holes... miracles are real...speaking in tongues are real....supernatural christianity is real BUT i prefer to be agnostic/atheist... am wondering athiest... dont you see a contradiction...athiest confirming the supernatural..aomething that the 5senses cannot reproduce in the lab |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 1:20pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
esere826: Hardmirror. Twas a great post. I also had burning and disturbing desire to save people from hell. It started with if I dont preach, I'm guilty if they go to hell.
I soon overcame that after overcoming fear of God and me burning in hell. Next, I overcame the fear of people going to hell in th r first place. This came about by meditating on the life of Jesus. As powerful as he was he didnt levitate to the hinderlands of africa to preach the gospel with urgency.
I'm still very much a jesus beliver with a desire to spread the gospel. However, I realise that my initial belifs were built on extremely faulty and illogical foundations. I continue my walk with God, peeling off lots of error that were thaught to me by christian tradition, some of which are as old as christianity itself.
I feel you brother |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 1:10pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: CONTINUATION... CURIORITY and DARING TO QUESTION GOD
The christian God is regarded as a FATHER NOT a SLAVE MASTER. I took God as my father. I discuss anything and everything with him. He was a friend I loved so much. We had a one on one relationship. This meant I could ask God any question I am a practical person, I don't just hear the word, I do the word. People in the bible had chats with God and He is my father and friend so why should I not ask God questions and why should he not answer? So ask God sincere questions
1. My Number one problem: We are to preach to all nations and make sure people don't perish I and many christians I know were trying our absolute best to depopulate hell as fast as possible. To make sure people don't just hear the word BUT they actually get saved. Someone asked why I pray for at least 12hours. It was because of the burden I carried. The burden of soul winning. It was terrifying that many were going to end up in hell and burn forever! if you are a christian and you believe people will end up in hell and you don't preach and try to win souls everyday YOU ARE WORSE THAN BOKO HARAM. FACT! How can you have peace of mind and sleep at night knowing you hold the secret to eternal life in your hands and you are comfortable? How dear you buy luxuries when you can put that money into soul winning? How can you be asking God for more money, when you should pick up your bag and preach. How can you be asking God to pick up your call so you too can drive Range Rover? It started becoming apparent that even God was a wicked God. Why?
-so he is all loving, loves humanity more than any man could ever love another man. More than an earthly father would love his son. YET God would let people perish in hell for even telling a lie no matter why you tell the lie or how small it is?
- so the best a God can do is to send humans to preach His word?
Oh wait! Seems you don't understand Jesus died in Jerusalem for the sins of the WHOLE world and If anyone dies without christ he was going to end in Hell. Wait! Do you know how many People would have died in Africa, South America, Australia, China, India, europe, before the Gospel reached them? Do you know how many people die per day?
So all these people will go to hell? The clever answer will be NO, the won't go to hell because they did not know. Oh! So if they won't go to hell because they were ignorant, why preach the gospel to them and make them informed and now if they die with the tiniest of sin without christ they end in hell. Why not leave them ignorant so their souls can be saved based on their ignorance.
How long did it take for the gospel of christ to reach the whole world? Is god truely the God of the whole world or of Jews?
It did not just add up. This whole gospel thing started to crumble the more I thought of it.
That is just a tip of the questions I began to ask God. Of course he had no answer. The same God that reveals other peoples issues to me could not answer this.
continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/17#45231153 |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 1:04pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:47pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
francis247: I'm not surprised. It's all in the bible. Even God's very elect shall be deceived in the last days. The end is indeed no longer near but here. falling away 1thess 2 things happening |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:46pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: Thanks for the concern. You are a real christian. Don't worry about me. I may not have all the answers about life but at least I have one less lie to worry about. Christianity is a good way of life and I encourage people to read the bible and pick good lessons from it. The bible will make you wiser if you are already wise. same book that will make you wiser is also containing lies that you consider less worry to you... mmmmmh okay oh |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:45pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: Infact. It is easier for a dedicated christian to become an atheist than an unserious christian. Why. Because the unserious christian would be afraid that it is because he does not pray well, read the bible or live a holy life that is why the devil is deceiving him that the bible is not god's word. But once you read the whole bible over and over again and you are genuinely concerned and sincere about life and the after life, you begin to ask questions and begin to see the stupidity of what you hinge you life on. The moment you have a personal relationship with God and he is a Father to you more than being a far away God, then you begin to realize he is doing nothing to help humanity. You go out you see people suffering. You feel so bad and your heavenly father is doing nothing to help them. You want to go about praying for people like jesus you just end up embarrassing yourself. Why do you think all these big pastors don't go about on the street like jesus? They know god does not heal and going on the street will expose them real fast. It's all a facade. so all the real miracles and tongues is a FACADE.hmha hahaa nice work |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:27pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
donnffd: I don't think any atheist claims ultimate knowledge, we keep learning everyday, and if you can prove to me beyond reasonable doubt that God exists and the supernatural exists, I most certainly would be religious tonight HARDMIRROR lovely pastor turn athiest/agnostic answers HardMirror: CONTINUATION... I LOSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE, JESUS and RELIGIOUS CONCEPT OF GOD. Before I continue. Miracles exists Witchcraft Speaking in tongues is real Everything supernatural about christianity is real. What is not real is the reason behind it. It is just like magic. Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.
https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45205356 |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 10:07am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: I never faked speaking in tongues. I fact it came after I learnt how important it was for a christian. the man of God that thought us was a very honest man, he did not force anyone. He only pleaded that we earnestly seek the gift of the spirit and prayed with us. That same day many started speaking when he prayed, but I could not. I just couldn't it was all strange to me. When ever I opened my mouth I felt like I was about to say rubbish to God. About a month after this, I was praying at home. I always loved prayer walks because it helps me pray longer. So I was pacing about the back of our house (no one can see me there or distract me, there was a farm there). And asking God to help me so I can pray in spirit. I remember the words of that man of God saying we need to have faith and just speak as the spirit leads. So I opened my mouth and spoke. It was really really strange, but I started to flow.
I can still speak in tongues till date. In fact when ever I am stressed and I need solution, I pace about the house and speak in tongues. It helps me think better.
https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45203754 is this not a contradiction HardMirror: To those who want me to skip the stories and my experiences and go straight to how I became an atheist, please be patient. The details I am giving are important has I have a lot to expose. There are many reasons why Christianity has survived the test of time even tho it is built on lies and deep human psychology. Many suspect this but find it almost impossible to question God or his word. Some are still thinking I just became an atheist. I have been an atheist since 2011. Totally stopped praying and going to church since 2012. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 9:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
solite3: Judas Iscariot who av been with d Lord himself fell lucifer n his angels who have been in the very presence of God rebelled there is nothing special about ur story.moses said I place before u this day life or death but God says choose life. Jesus Christ is life he has not change neither has he condem u or anyone else.From what I av read so far u have a purpose even u urself av not discovered. speaking from experience though hmm thats it... |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 9:32am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: CONTINUATION. MIRACLES! Yes miracles were real to us. VERY REAL! And yes I saw and performed a lot of miracles. noted |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 9:25am On Nov 22, 2016 |
adextetoo: hmmm brother you may not have the opportunity to choose where you will be born or which religion you will be born into but you have the opportunity to choose and decide which way is right or wrong it all boils down to choice. I am not criticising you but maybe we are wrong in one of our choice or assumption but am sure my biological father's story will help you greatly just that you need to complete your story before I say mine pls share it so i can follow yours |
Politics › Re: Buhari To Travel To Equatorial Guinea For Africa-arab Summit by uvalued(m): 5:59pm On Nov 21, 2016 |
#trumpthings i guess.. lets look within before the effect of nationalisation of america...under trump |
Politics › Re: #rebootnigeria Youths Arise by uvalued(op): 6:11am On Nov 21, 2016 |
#kabilacongo youth bad leadership seat tight... #mugabezimbabwe veryverybad sit tight leader.... should not stop the youths we can #rebootnaija |
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Politics › #rebootnigeria Youths Arise by uvalued(op): 5:45am On Nov 21, 2016 |
youth arise...
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Politics › Re: Buhari May Stand Alone In 2019 ----buba Galadima by uvalued(m): 9:28am On Nov 20, 2016 |
The APC has been raped aground, and it is only claiming to be in government because it is the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) that is actually controlling power See statement... aisha shouted they say she is good for the other room. |
Politics › Re: "PDP Mismanaged Nigeria For 16 Years" - Buhari by uvalued(m): 9:20am On Nov 20, 2016 |
CoolFreeday: These same people and their allies are blaming PMB who is barely 2years in office for the mess they created in 16 years. If its a place where things work, they should be behind bar by now! and barely 2years he has not shown the competence at least to change 1 simple agenda and make it a reality to the masses... he has made every1 miserable including his northern followers...blaming not only gej but have stretched it upto obj.. haha it seems that he has realized that his blame game is not holding water against gej so he needs to spread it... fighting on many fronts... inckuding saraki,atiku,elrufia,kwankaso etc... folds hands and watching in 3D |
Politics › Re: 2019: Buhari Woos South-east With Capital Projects by uvalued(m): 9:11am On Nov 20, 2016 |
sarrki: The online E-rats will turn a blind eye to this
Wailers are the most myopic being on planet earth yet your paymasters are turning to ipob Igbos for rescue come 2019. and surely they know that 1north cannot give him the seat... his incompetence is clear to all.. |
Politics › What Do You Make Of This Jew on Black by uvalued(op): 8:46am On Nov 20, 2016 |
moderators i dont know where to put this but you can move it to the appropriate thread. some #foodforthought *Why are blacks not wealthy*
Excerpts from an interview with a Jewish leader about Blacks.
INTERVIEWER: Why are blacks so behind Economically?
JEWISH LEADER: The only thing blacks understand is Consumption.
Blacks don't understand the importance of creating and building wealth.
The fundamental rule is to keep your money within your racial group.
We the Jews - build Jewish business, - hire Jewish, - buy Jewish and - spend Jewish. There is nothing wrong with that but it is a basic rule blacks cannot comprehend and follow;
"He kills his fellow blacks daily instead of wanting to see his fellow black do succeed"
93% of blacks killed in America are by other blacks.
Their leaders steal from their people and send the money back to their colonial master from whom they borrow the same money from.
Every successful black wants to spend his money in the country of his colonial masters.
They - go on holiday abroad, - buy houses abroad, - school abroad, - go for medical treatment abroad etc
instead of spending this money in their own country to benefit their people.
Statistics show that the Jew's money exchanges hands 18 times before leaving his community while for blacks it is probably a maximum of once or even zero.
Only 6% of black money goes back into their community. This is why Jews are at the top and blacks are at the bottom of every ladder of society.
Instead of buying - Louis Vuitton, - Hermes, - expensive cars, - shoes, -houses, -dresses etc,
Blacks could - industralize Africa, - build banks and get rid of colonial institutions by putting them out of business.
INTERVIEWER: What is your thought on failure of blacks after 150yrs?
JEWISH LEADER: Well, nothing is ever the blackman's fault. His -compulsive habit of killing his own, - compulsive material consumption. -His inability to build businesses or -preserve wealth are usually somebody else's fault.
INTERVIEWER: So what can blacks do to liberate themselves
JEWISH LEADER: Blacks must take responsibility. Blacks must unite. And vehemently fight corrupt leaders who run down their country and run to IMF as though IMF is Father Christmas.
They need to look inwards otherwise they will continuously remain colonized and lose their place in history.
Pls forward this until it goes round the continent of Africa.
We all need to learn our lessons quick and build our Nation.
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Politics › Re: Badmus Dolapo Becomes Certified PR Personnel (photos) by uvalued(m): 10:40pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
emeraldknytt: Keep fooling yourselves, Even Akpororo pity the worwor/ugliness wey dey behind all that make-up  na makeup |
Politics › Re: The Second Coming Of Goodluck Jonathan - Dele Momodu by uvalued(m): 10:31pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
MeAboki: Nonsense, anyone with little common sense would know that GEJ was the worst ever head of state; he presided over unprecedented looting of the country and literally wasted away our future. we are watching the current from frying pan na fire WE all de...mismanage missroad misuse misadventure missevertin gonment |
Politics › Re: The Second Coming Of Goodluck Jonathan - Dele Momodu by uvalued(m): 10:28pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
ajepako: Oga GEJ abeg dont come back...
Even if abookiis and Mr Momodu like...make them shed tears of blood...
Dont come back....Continue to flenjo and enjoy your good life...
Let their 'messiah' and 'superhero' fix the economic, religious and ethic mess he is creating with his utterances and bigotry...
"My ambition is not worth the blood of any Nigerian'....GEJ.. |
Politics › Re: President Buhari In Ondo For APC Rally (Photos) by uvalued(m): 3:10pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
BeeBeeOoh: Buhari's case is a case of I Know What I'm Doing But, What Is Doing Me Is What I Don't Know weNaijaWe2MUCH |
Sports › Re: Amokachi With His Twins As Babies Vs With Them As Teens Vs With Them As Men by uvalued(m): 5:36pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
CoolFreeday: proud Dad! but where is the mom? is she not part of it |