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condralbedez:
This is the man,so people protested for to be release in prison

He benefited from mass protests against his inhuman treatments but wants an Islamic system where protesting is forbidden against a leader. There is no reasonable Mus***, never mind. Just vile barbaric manipulators & closet terrorists.

thesicilian:
He's banning the possession and wielding of dangerous weapons? Were they legal before?

Help me ask the short fool o.

BKayy:
China will defeat US.
The reason why China will defeat USA is simple. USA designed herself to be the best while China designed herself since the past decades to beat US. All their Ammunitions are designed for specific US arsenal. None is a general machine. Each is an anti-specific US machine.

The braggadocio Japanese thought so too until the Americans dropped puff puff on Hiroshima. That was in 1945, today is 2021. You think US went to bed napping ever since?

Gandollar:
You exaggerated on a lot of issues about Jonathan, like burning the bridge.

But honestly speaking, I don't think discussing Jonathan is what appeals to me right now. So I will not go further.

I get you. Wish we could discuss failures of the last 6 years without going farther into the past but Nigeria politics is intertwined with actions and reactions. My point as per GEJ was that he could have made more friends than enemies where it mattered but he wasn’t a tactful politician, just a favored academician. That’s a close chapter now anyway.

I knew people were warned. We all did on this platform but guess a lost dog would never hear the whistle of a hunter. Was just wondering why someone whom halted an economy propelling project in the commercial capital of the country that was going to cost lesser in 1984 is borrowing billions of dollars to execute one that has no economic value today to a barren country. Can these Buharists educate us?

cybersoldiers:
Very unfortunate of the Yoruba's who brought this man.

Though I feel your disgust but don’t forget that Buhari didn’t have above 60% anywhere in Yorubaland. Those 40% are human beings too and it was evident that GEJ wasn’t smart enough to endear himself to the SouthWest. It was a bridge he shouldn’t have burned. This was where politricking should have come into play by him but he was busy appeasing the North, building dumb unsustainable schools and folding under pressure even when he had a leverage to nip the BH issue in the bud because some idiots were saying, an attack on BH was an attack on the North. GEJ lack of stratagem led us to this dullard. I’m a Yoruba guy and I knew this monster was no good. He never commiserated with the families of those corps members and others his foot soldiers killed post 2011 election violence till date. His signature was dogs and baboons, shariah, kwarraption.

Anyways, the precedence is there now and we can only expect that the next president does 50% of what Buhari did to Southerners to the North too. I can bet these barbarians won’t be able to take it.

DubaiLandLord2:
GMB is a tribalist.

I hope any southerner that becomes the president in 2023, will also be as tribalist as GMB.

GMB have set a precedence.

True. Even those who collaborated with him to bring him to power knew he was an extremist. They probably thought he’d be manageable and wanted GEJ at all cost. Now within 8years, this bastard from Niger has destroyed the spirit of optimism in this country. The damage which cannot be remedied in the next 20years.

Sometimes I am shocked that some educated people come on the web space to make excuses for Dictator Buhari's consistent woeful policies.
Lagos Metro Rail cancellation in the 80s when this coup plotter came into power was one of the inexhaustible gaffes that made me realize he was no good. This was a project conceived by the then Governor Late. Lateef Jakande, that was meant to change the face and economic standards of Lagos. Dictator Buhari for reasons best known to him stopped this project at a loss of billions of Naira to tax paying Lagosians owing to contract breach. He cited incoherent reasons like high debt profile and underperforming economy as at the time. Now mind you, this project was one which had the capacity to generate revenue with the level of commerce in Lagos. Nevertheless, Buhari shut in down and never looked back. That unfortunate incident is the reason for Lagos transportation woes till date.
Today, this ethnocentric religious bigot is borrowing billions from the international communities to fund a Rail project from Nigeria to Niger Republic even when our debt profile is through the roof. A country where arms proliferation is being facilitated from, a country with no economic importance to the Nigerian state. I’m trying to reconcile these ridiculous developments in my head and it simply just wasn’t possible. Are Nigerians, especially the educated ones still holding brief for this administration in their senses at all?

Imzee:
stupid write-up

when his father came, Nigeria didn't exist

Dr. Hakeem is a full fledged Northerner from Zaria, if you don't think so, deport him

go back say 500-1000years, i'm certain Yoruba didn't occupy modern day Southwest Nigeria

keep clutching at straws

Yorubas are aboriginals of the lands they still occupy today. You won't hear any ethnic group dispute that unlike Dan Fodio & the likes of Baba Ahmed's ancestors who came from God knows where and dislodged the aboriginals. So the author's write up might not make sense to you but guess it depends on which side of the fence you are seated on.

Monday Lines

For Hakeem Baba-Ahmed

By Lasisi Olagunju

(Published in the Nigerian Tribune on Monday, 27 September, 2021)

Alhaji Baba Ahmed, a Mauritanian cow seller, plied his trade from his country to the Gold Coast (now Ghana) and to Dahomey (now Benin Republic). Business was very good but at a point, his customers in Dahomey, with impunity, refused to pay for his cows. Is it not the law that every seller must collect the proceeds of his sale? This was not the case with the cow seller who was not a son-of-the-soil in Dahomey. The options before him were very limited. My people say if the landlord offends the tenant, it is the tenant who must go; again, if it is the tenant who has wronged the landlord, it is still the tenant who must go. This trader from Mauritania had to move out of Dahomey, leaving his money behind. And he moved, crossing over to Nigeria; first to Sokoto and later to Zaria. He entered Nigeria all alone but soon found Zaria a very conducive environment for his business, for his Islamic scholarship and for raising a family (See Daily Trust of Saturday, January 13, 2018). The Mauritanian finally settled in Zaria around 1920 - that was about 100 years ago - and died on November 5, 1987 in Zaria, reportedly at the age of 104 (see Facebook post of Abdulrahman M. Baba-Ahmed of 9 July, 2021).

Alhaji Baba Ahmed loved all and was much loved by all around him. He prospered in Zaria, Nigeria, had 33 children - and got all soundly educated. One of the 33 children of that Mauritanian businessman is Dr. Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, spokesman of the Northern Elders Forum (NEF) who spoke down to the entire southern Nigerian people last week. What did the south do to him? Because southern governors met in Enugu days earlier and demanded that the next president of Nigeria must come from the south, Hakeem, mouthpiece of the north, came out, emitting fire.

The son of the Mauritanian immigrant shouted down the south and its 17 governors and boasted that his north had enough votes to defeat them and produce the next president. “We will lead Nigeria the way we have led Nigeria before. Whether we are president or vice-president, we will lead Nigeria. We have the majority of the votes and democracy says vote whom you want. Why should we accept a second class position when we know we can buy a form and contest for first class and we will win?," he was heard saying so on television and in viral video clips. He said more: "If they don't like the fact that it is a northerner who may emerge as the next president, too bad..."

I feel that was rather crude - and rude. Is it no longer the case that a guest does not break the dishes of his host? I am from the south of Nigeria and I feel hurt and insulted by what Baba-Ahmed said of my people. If you say you won't ever play second in a game of two supposed equals then who will? Baba-Ahmed's father was not an indigenous Nigerian but so was Joseph in the holy books. He was not an Egyptian yet he ended up as Prime Minister of Egypt. But could Joseph have achieved that lofty height and lasted in grace by spitting in the face of those who prepared the grounds for his ascendancy? If a first-generation northern Nigerian was that audacious and so condescending in talking to the south, I wonder what those whose fathers' placentas were buried in the soil of Nigeria would do. Ethnic converts are like religious converts in zealotry. They swim in extremism. Remember Enoch, the "proud, zealous, and belligerent" Christian convert in Achebe's Things Fall Apart. Remember, how, with his mouth, he serially provokes violent clashes with 'the other side' - his own south. And, remember that with his belligerence, he rips apart the mask of the sacred Egwugwu finally putting a knife on the things that hold his land together. That is the import of that insult from Baba-Ahmed.

Even if the south were his cows' grazing ground, it should still get some measure of respect. Baba-Ahmed spoke to a south he took as his inheritance, a vast land of slaves. A carpenter thinks always of hammer and nails and there is an eternal connection between the earth and its fruits.

The taproot of this talker is Mauritania, the very last country in the world to officially outlaw slavery. It did so as late as 1981 - 40 years ago. Even then, there are still castes of generational slaves in that country. The fair-skinned there are freeborn; the dark-complexioned are serfs. They are still there.

The way Hakeem spoke against the south and the applause he got from his ABU, Zaria audience could only mean that he and his people thought (and think) the south is a camp of bondsmen and women; an enclave of enlightened slaves - with no useful votes; a band of hapless states whose governors are second class. The north holds the hammer of incumbency, and they will do anything with it. The people Hakeem Baba-Ahmed speaks for see the south and its loud denunciation of Nigeria's current structure as impudent nails that must be hammered down. And they are hammering and breaking the nails one by one. I heard Baba-Ahmed say something like 'we' will produce the next president then let's see what 'they' will do. Whenever I hear that kind of fire-rhetoric, I look at the chirping bird and the branch on which it stands. How about you produce your president, and I produce mine? Something like nail driving out nail as said by Desiderius Erasmus. But whose purpose will that anarchy serve?

If Nigeria burns, descendants of the Mauritanian have Mauritania to relocate to. They are citizens by descent under that country's laws. Mauritania's Nationality Code of June 12, 1961 says any child "at least one of whose parents is a citizen of Mauritania, regardless of the child's country of birth" is a citizen by descent. Their old man died 34 years ago, yet the road to Mauritania has remained a familiar terrain for his surviving children. On Saturday April 17 this year (2021), Hakeem Baba-Ahmed with his brothers and sister and uncles had a family get-together in Nouakchott, Mauritania (see his Facebook post made on 18 April, 2021). That is the man threatening fire unless 'his north' has its way in Nigeria's 2023 and at all times. When a man that has more than one home stirs trouble, the Yoruba have for him a saying: Asa o naani a nkun'gbe, igi da, eye oko fo lo (Kite does not care if the bush burns; when the tree falls, the bird flies away).

Now, let us look again at the words of the kite: “We will lead Nigeria the way we have led Nigeria before. Whether we are president or vice-president, we will lead Nigeria." If you boast that you have led Nigeria all the time, including when all you had was Vice President, and the nation is this down and out, what does that tell you about your score? You failed; you are a failure. And do you think any sane people would put their future in care of such castes of failure? We go to his next sentence: "We have the majority of the votes and democracy says vote whom you want." Baba-Ahmed's north is so proud of its Almajirai population buoyed by ceaseless streams of illegal immigrants.

Beyond using the overcrowded households to vote on election days, what else has been the benefit of that 'majority' to Nigeria? Omo beere, osi beere (many children, much misery). Every Yoruba child is taught that sense very early in primary one. If you can't feed them, don't birth them. Beggars give birth to beggars who also give birth to beggars on the streets of Lagos and Ibadan. They are there as I write; they procreate every minute and suffer generational misery. They are northerners without the care and empathy of northern elders. What excites their strange elders are the next elections and the veins of gold in their vaults. There should be no pride in birthing a pack of millions without skills beyond the menial and mendicancy. You hatch them in billions and load them in open trucks for your southern neighbours to house and feed and you mount the mountains now to proclaim your supremacy over that same south! Shamelessness has no better definition.

It is strange and surprising that Baba-Ahmed's north still think southern agitation and restiveness are about posts and positions. No. That was the case years ago. The spirit roaming the streets of southern Nigeria today is not about Nigerian presidency or about who sits in there. It is about how to escape the north and its curse. They call it restructuring. The experience of recent years has told the south that having even a southern president won't ever make any positive difference. Baba-Ahmed confirmed exactly that in his impudent statement. He said on the very few times when the north did not have the president, it was still the captain of the ship. Or what else did he mean by: “We will lead Nigeria the way we have led Nigeria before. Whether we are president or vice-president, we will lead Nigeria." He added forcefully that a southerner would be supported only if the person would serve the north's interest.

When a sheep says it wants to grow horns, it should be prepared to have its ears cut off. Baba-Ahmed's Mauritanian people have some other interesting proverbs which should have guided his lips. They say: "He who begins a conversation does not foresee the end." They also warn that "one must talk little and listen a lot." And this one: "He who wears too fine clothes shall go about in rags." That is rather deep! Now, apart from its production, harvest and circulation of terrorism, banditry, mass death and mass misery, what has the north achieved for itself and for Nigeria with its decades of being in power? If you spit in your partner's face and tell him it is saliva then you are bold. But you can't do that and forbid a reaction from the assaulted. Nigeria's case now borders on the insane; it is the folkloric Omoye who has entered the market stark naked. When you listen again and again to Baba-Ahmed and you remember that this is a highly educated man who was even at a time the secretary of our electoral commission, you conclude that Nigeria's ailment is truly beyond cure.

But if you are right behind someone on a journey and you discover that the person does not behave normal, what do you do? You retrace your steps without letting him hear your footfall. The southern vibes and vibrations are exactly about that.

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helinues:
So only Apc law makers are in Senate and House of reps?

They are the majority and in a democracy, they have the final say unless the president is an opposition who refuses to assent to bills passed by them.

Wiseandtrue:
I hope you know that I am talking about the hausas, not the foolanis!

Yes of course. They play second fiddle to the Foulahs.

Wiseandtrue:
It's not good to be too docile, the hausas are too docile for my liking!

Far from that. They are just selectively docile. A docile tribe that killed CAN chairman in a town in Kano like two days ago? Nah sis, they have accepted their subjugation and would go to any length to prove their stewardship to the Foulahs.

Princeadebayo11:
Religion, the only thing the whites used to enslaved African successfully. This aboki are idiots

Nigga please, that’s how you lots push trashy narratives of history. Where did the whites use religion to enslave. Caucasians didn’t even bring Christianity to Africa. You think propagating the message of Christ had anything to do with the mission of Royal Niger Company in West Africa? Those who made everlasting impact in Christendom like Samuel Ajayi Crowther in Nigeria weren’t even whites for the most part. Why did they leave Northern Nigeria’s Emirs and Sultans alone with their religion then? Not one documented piece of Nigeria history talks about coercive motive of the Brits to instill Christianity. Get enlightened man. Same people were in Arabia, India, South-East Asia yet the people’s religions remained.

Rest In Peace to this martyr. He will be avenged.

Jerryherd:
Cant they have a buffet and serve themselves

They could but it's the significance of the action (appreciation) that matters. Just like the woman in the Bible washed Christ's feet or The Last Supper. It wasn't because Jesus was handicapped or the disciples were starving. It's all about making a statement.

F117nighthawk:
I wonder how this guy got his SAN title, he doesn't sound intelligent to me by any standard

You are funny. What are the qualifications of the CJN? Shariah? You expect something sensible from these ethnoreligious bigots? Same people sent a nominee to ICJ whom embarrassed himself & was said not to have the rudimentary understanding of how Law works. Leave these idiots abeg.

SportsHD:
I stand by Hopsin-

You gave me a Bible and expect me not to analyze it?
I’m frustrated and you provoked it
I’m not reading that motherfucking book because a human wrote it
I have a fucking brain, you should know it
You gave it to me to think to avoid every useless moment

A human wrote all the other books you’ve ever been exposed to as a kid till adulthood but you believed them nonetheless. You haven’t figured out what your issues are ma nigger.

Might have been poisoned with a slow to kill agent during one of those invitations by the Assasination Secret Service.

jimyjames:
Or awolowo won't had been envious of the great ziks political career and worked with him for southern Unity, cause the North wanted secession

Envious? You made me laugh. The person whom gave Zik the platform to have even launched his so-called career in the first place wasn’t a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay? Did Zik not pitch his tenth with the north even after alliance discussions with AG?

jimyjames:
There is nothing like southern unity everyone is playing to his benefit, if there was anything like southern Unity, the entire Nigeria would not have United to wage a genocidal war to wipe out a particular tribe for one Nigeria , if they was a United South that civil war could have been a north vs South war which could have ended in favour of the South

Or Nnamdi Azikiwe would have foresaw the handwriting on the wall and not antagonize the inclusion of a secession clause in the constitution as proposed by principled politicians like Obafemi Awolowo whom envisaged the madness we are in today.

The mistake the dude made was using his real information and not some sort of proxy to set up that site. They used the account with the name AbokiFX to narrow down its ownership across different banks. Lack of foresight on his part. He’s not getting access to his funds anytime soon.

Masterito:
Unfortunately they know but still prefer Jews to Muslims

Why won’t they? Jews don’t bother Christians. We go on pilgrimages all the time without having to worry for our lives. They didn’t convert a one time largest church in Europe (Hagia Sophia) to a mosque like your brothers in Islam in Turkey did. So why hate them? It’s you that you should check yourself for your hostile, intolerant agendas.

timesup234:
It is a shame the world will remain in a brainwashed stage in another 20yrs. Iran has every right to develop nuclear weapon. Israel is the real terrorist in the middle east. Israel has no right to exist. Zionism is the cause of all the problems in our world today. Israel must seize to exist

You have no right to be foolish to say Israel has no rights to exist. What a joke. People with ancestral ties to a place has no right to exist because they went on an exodus fleeing from centuries long persecution in the first place? Tell us when Palestinians became aboriginals of the said lands? What a dunce.

Zeinymira:
The Muslim women who did where not allowed to. I know many. If you're Yoruba, you would too, that's if you're honest.
Sure, it's forbidden in Islam for a non-Muslim
to marry a Muslim woman and for a good reason too ( a non-Muslim man will not respect his Muslim wife's faith. This is because a Muslim man believes in all previous religions and Prophets of God and respects them while a non-Muslim does not believe nor acknowledges the Prophet of Islam; rather, a non-Muslim considers Prophet Mohammed a false prophet and usually believes in all the fabricated lies made against Islam and its Prophet. Even at work sef, if you pray in Allah'sname they don't consider it a valid prayer and you want to take such discord enter marriage.) But like all forbidden things, people still do it. A Muslim man who marries a non-Muslim woman is commanded to respect her faith, he can not force her to convert. There is no such verse in Christianity or other religions that commanded a Christian man to marry non-Christian ladies nor respect her faith. She won't even enjoy such mercy. She would go from Ruqayyah to Rebecca.

Christians don’t need to have the command explicitly written in the scripture to know what to do. They only have to ask themselves what would Christ do in this situation and Luke 7 was pretty clear on how tolerant of believers, non-believers, sinners etc should be. Christ didn’t condemn the prostitute in this encounter. Unlike those who judge people by outward appearance, reputation or belief systems, Christ looks at the heart which is what I believe every Christian should be. An atheist or Muslim can be a good person as a matter of personal conviction so it is falsehood to think a Christian doesn’t like you because he doesn’t believe in the prophethood of Muhammed. We need to move past these thought processes. Where two people are genuinely in love, faith reason should never be their deal breaker. The reason less Muslim women settles with Christian men is not as a result of the absence of explicit scriptural verses making provision for that but because Islam forbids it. So the notion that Yoruba is tolerant when it comes to inter religious marriages is a bit of a stretch. It happens but it less than 30%. There are several intercultural & nations marriages in the Bible. That tells a lot about the flexibility in Christendom. It’s not the problem.

Zeinymira:
Will the Christian man allow her to keep her religion?

Nice question you asked there. Now, I can’t speak for all but me personally don’t have an issue with what a Yoruba Muslim woman I’m in love with worships. After all, salvation is on an individual basis, not as a family. That said, the notion that Yoruba are tolerant is the basis for my earlier comments. With your question, are you implying only the Muslims are tolerant of marrying other adherents? I believe this is false. The reason Muslim women don’t get married to Christian men is in the Islamic doctrine which forbids that. It has nothing to do with tolerance levels. If that command isn’t in the Quran, many Muslims women would be married to Christians without issues. The very few ones who manages to do, does in defiance of the scriptural command but the same scripture okays a Muslim man getting hitched with a Christian woman. These realities has nothing to do with tolerance but what is approved or forbidden. This is why I didn’t get married to my ex Muslim gf, she told me it wouldn’t work unless I converted. That’s my point!

Covidodo:
Gather your thoughts and type again.
You hurriedly typed with pain and anguish

You are right. I was in a rush off activities on Nairaland. However, any intelligent person would know the intended filler was ‘’Muslim”. Thanks.

Leaforever:
What are U even saying? Obasanjo has Christian wives. Sanwolu and his wife are Christians. Ambode and his wife are Christians. Amosun and his wife are Christians. Osoba and his wife are Christians.
Why are you an outsider commenting so arrogantly about people you know nothing about. So loud and so wrong. What is even the point of this argument? No point. It's the inter religious marriages dt prove yorubas are not bigots.

It’s a notion pushed by so many so we are trying to establish its veracity. Mention a Muslim Yoruba woman married to a Yoruba Christian man. This is what I intended to convey, nothing like bigotry. I am Yoruba 100%.

Mention one Yoruba Muslim woman married to a Christian man among all these public servants Mr Yoruba are tolerant. I’ll wait...

Havertz10:
it's not feasibly possible for fuel to be sold at that price

Of course, it’s not. What I am particular about is the character of a person like Buhari making unrealistic goals as such, in an economy seriously tied to the continuous patronage of foreign buyers while there are alternative OPEC countries. He is evil and he said a lot of nasty things he has backtracked on now. That’s a despicable and deceitful character from a self-acclaimed incorruptible quota system dirtbag.

Modrov:
Considering that the refineries were already not producing at 2011....LONG before Buhari took over.....

Also, it is Buhari's fault too. He should have removed subsidies, allowed NNPC to be privatized, and cut FG allocations to NNPC, so that NNPC lives off its profits...meaning the refineries would be working in months...because if they weren't NNPC loses.

But because he promised Nigerians N40 fuel, he won't do it.

Likewise all his predecessors. They know. But they don't want the polticial fallout of high pump prices.

Stop making illogical excuses for Buhari with your mild, self-serving, court jester remark. He promised Nigerians #40 per liter, so how much are we buying it now? Mind you, as at today, subsidy still hasn’t ended. The same empty brained president criticized Jonathan when he attempted removing this same subsidy & ensure a full scale deregulation of the sector; claiming there was no such thing? So what exactly has he done now rather than threw the sector into a catastrophic situation? So much for ‘pie-ting’ corruption. Paying employees for doing absolutely nothing Jeez.

Look at the fool saying they should allow them more time so that they can tell their people to stop destroying people’s farmlands. So you mean to tell us that with all atrocities being committed all these while you’ve never for once spoken to your killer family to halt?

All these your rants won’t amount to anything. Lagos didn’t make itself business friendly by destroying other people’s investments. If you want production and consumption to be highly reflective in your state, then make your state endearing to investors. There are company’s headquarters in Lagos, Ogun, Rivers, Delta. You can’t have an hostile environment and be making idiotic analysis as to why others should help you ease your self inflicted woes. Every state can become a Lagos with a futuristic and pragmatic leadership. Quit whining like a lil beech after all, Kano allegedly almost has Lagos population.

So let me get this straight. You enact Shariah Laws, destroy alcoholic beverage businesses of southerners in your state but wants the same southerners to share their VAT from such businesses with you? Kano gets to keep 100% of its own contributions but Lagos, Rivers etc don’t even get 50% of theirs. Are these people even okay in the brain?