₦airaland Forum

Greenscientist:
I know many will come in defense of this man.

But the simple thing is, Muslims wear their hijab everywhere why should they off it because they want to go to school.

His argument is baseless. Will Sango worshipper wear their traditional attire to market any day anytime? Or will a Christian lady in choir wear the rope outside of the church?

If you want to wear the above(eeku and rope)to school, you're welcome. You'll get tired.

By the way, this is lagos not Abia.

Religious freedoms you guys quote so often does not make provision for where or when. The thing is freedom for one is freedom for all. If he wants, he can wear it to shit in the toilet, shouldn’t really be your own cup of tea.

JAMO84:
I don't understand why Christians feel threatened by hijab


There are at least 80 million Christians in Nigeria, yet they feel insecure.

Far from it. Christians don’t feel threatened, they just don’t want such religion symbols in their establishment. I don’t see why anyone should have an issue with that. If the Supreme Court make its judgment in respect to the hijab issues in places like Kwara where the church took the government to court about ownership but Muslims tried to smuggle hijab matter into it and says the school are the government’s, Christians would comply. If the judgement favors the church, it makes the schools private establishment and the Muslims students there will have to use berets or go home. It’s simple.
Muslims are the impatient ones not willing to wait for the apex court.

Laggafin:
Empty skulls wil just come online and be yanning dust

Look at this slowpoke. Just like I mentioned earlier that you clowns were consciously looking away while MURIC was making damaging statements all these years yet you are calling Christians out as if we do not want peace or unity. Look at today’s news now. We never even drink water drop cup, your terrorist apologist groups are already barking.

https://dailypost.ng/2022/06/14/2023-he-hates-muslims-islamic-group-warns-atiku-against-picking-wike-as-running-mate/

Laggafin:
U JUST EMPTY CALABASH SKULL.. TINUBU WIL PICK MUSLIM VP.. HOPE U JUMP UNDER BUS DEN AND BE CRUSHED TO PIECES

Now you are emotional and mad lol. Thought you wanted to make us see a point before. Cowardly liars!

Laggafin:
U have shallow mind to understand deep tins

You have no point dude. If you say religious identity doesn’t matter and death is the ultimately, then jump in front of a bus already. Hypocrites with mumu reasoning.

Laggafin:
And u tink a Christian vp will put a check to it if the president incoming is also an Islamic extremist.
See u guys shouldnt bother about all D's Fulani higihaga.. the world is no man's land.. all of us go still kpai leave land go...

If living and death is so simple that way, why not just drink a bottle of sniper tonight then and call it quit since all of us go still kpai and there is nothing to live for.

Laggafin:
Kperogi is just a bitter soul full wit bile.. Used to follow him on twitter til realised most tins he writes is false and subjective.. In as much as im a christian and not kool wit muslim muslim combo.. But on a second tot what has religion reali got to do wit good governanc. buhari a muslim hasnt brought any good to the muslim predominant North but woes and sorrows.. So lets hear word abeg

You have absolutely no clue what wielding power can do and how much gain you can make using power to your advantage. The gains Buhari have gotten for Fulani interest and expansionism is about 50years. In our institutions, displacement of natives and land acquisition, international diplomacy to mention a few.

Biodun556:
Yakubu Gowon, and the then chief of staff Joseph Edet Akinwale Wey who was his de facto deputy or vice head of state were christians

Awolowo, the premier of the western region was a Christian

Deputy premier, Ladoke Akintola, was a Christian

The Governor, Sir Adesoji Aderemi doubling as the ooni of Ife was also a Christian in the old western region.

Aguiyi Ironsi and deputy, Babafemi Ogundipe were christians.

Ohh please, Ooni of Ife wasn’t an elected official. It’s a monarchy which hasn’t been watered down this much like what we have today. Monarchs were highly involved in colonial governance & administration in those days. The only reasons Muslim representation was scanty in those days was because while the Christians were going to schools, embracing western education, majority of the Muslims in Yorubaland were only concerning themselves with Ile Kewus.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo & Herbert Maucauly were one of the earliest schooled Yorubas involved in the initialization of our pre & post-colonial politics. It had nothing to do with Christianity preferences. They were just the qualified ones. You can’t mention 2-3 influential and highly exposed Muslims in Yorubaland at that timeframe.

Agunyi or Gowon weren’t elected just as Buhari and Idiagbon (both Muslims) also weren’t. Dude stop being irrationally myopic. You sound smart only to a stupid person.

sweetgala:
Guns are still licenced for people here, you can own a long gun with a caliber of .22 or less, you can own a shotgun style riffle, you can not own a gun capable of concealment i.e Pistol/sub-machine gun, you can not own a fully automatic riffle, or any long gun with a cartridge of .23 or greater so no Ak47 style / battle riffles can be owned by civilians.

There is a firemans act/law many private Nigerian citizens own guns. Talk to your local DPO about how to legally acquire one and the prerequisites.

Alright thanks. I will seek for more information. I doubt the cooperation of the police to make it a seamless experience though, even when requirements are met. Between who issues the gun (they the police or one gets referred to a merchant)?

[quote author= post=113719798]In Nigeria?!

Thay will be SUICIDAL. [/quote]Nigga please. You talk as if guns weren’t once licensed for people here? In fact, Nigeria was far more peaceful when there was license for guns until Buhari canceled that a couple of years ago and instructed everyone to submit the ones in their possession to the police.

immaculatesense:
Thank u sir...I am an Owo indigent and even currently in Owo...one thing I know for sure is people prayed even those in diaspora...both Christians,Muslims and the traditionalists prayed...we Christians shud thank Our God,the Muslims should thank theirs and so shud the traditionalists...

It pays to know God through Christ. That I am assuring everyone but it's a decision and everyone is free to make theirs

So what's the true state of things down there? Both the police and army have denied catching anyone.

DesignMaestro:
I would rather you don't blow things out of proportion due to sentiment.

I ask again, was First Baptist at Surulere stoned with many injured & properties destroyed by Islamic fanatics or not? Did the miscreants stone C&S college at Sabo Oke or not? Let's take it further back. Did Muslims not interrupt Reinhard Bonnke's crusade in 2004 which forced the program scheduled for a week to be shutdown after two days? Was this not experienced when K.A. Paul visited as well? Let me not even open other chapters but don't paint a wrapped picture of what Ilorin isn't here.

DesignMaestro:
You are very wrong. Perhaps you don't live in Ilorin. I'm sure if you do, you wouldn't have said that.

I know you are referring to hijab issue. Forget media hype, no religious crisis in Ilorin.

What do you mean by media hype? Do you mean to say Muslims didn't instigate violence tearing gates down and shining churches just last year or so? I've lived here for 30+ years so don't sugarcoat anything here.

seborrhic:
My humble,honest opinion is that the guy died from health related issues in the hotel and the hotel management fo olishly tried to safeguard the image of the hotel,naively trying to avoid being tagged a ritual killing perpetuated in the hotel,by dumping his corpse like a piece of rag.
Now,the verdict of ritual killing will stay with the accused owner,no matter what evidence is brought to the contrary.

Both you and the other dude below you didn't sound smart at all. So you think the first person to make contact with the deceased in that position was the said receptionist? So a corpse can wrap itself so well in position in a duvet with only head shown that you'd think it was napping? Let's even put that aside. Can you also tell us why the deceased records on checking in like payment was not invoiced via the normal channel but a transfer to a non-company's account was made? Then the manifest containing his info torn out from the record book? You mean to tell me you do not even as a bloody civilian smell premeditation in these accounts of event?

Realist12:
The interview shows Peter Obi lacks the intelligence to govern Nigeria, but trust Instagram people they'd swallow it . Peter Obi's ideas are unreasonable he just appeals to the masses but governance is more than that and we all know he can't do nor practice what he's preaching coz it's impractical. I watched him talking about our dollar dependency today and saying he'd stop the politicians from spending dollar . Now is he not spending dollar himself ?
Same person advocating saying he'd use our resources to send pupils abroad so they can remit diaspora dollar , isn't that brain drain . We are past those childish reasoning. Most of his preachings are not practical but they sound nice to the layman.
Instagram people should stick to their skits and fine pictures.

I agree with your point of view. Any Nigerian politician telling you he will make Nigeria Eldorado without massive drive into even industrialization across strategic states, education with special interest in STEM system, agro exportation and devolution of power is just fooling himself.

These morons have made it their new anthem to use the tag foreign hausa/fulani as their new excuse for the barbarism of their people. No sir, the violent ragamuffins are your people from the same country. Chadians, Cameroonians among them are less than 10%.

Lmao madness. The number of muslims in churches nowadays is for all to see. Funny enough we don't threaten anyone with death if they chooses to leave. Remove this in Islam and even una Chief Imams will be on the pulpits the next day. Give your ladies freedom outside Islam to marry and I doubt you'd still have girls left to marry.

DMerciful:
You lame attempt to isolate Awolowo from the failure of their time is laughable. If Awolowo doesn't trust the new country that's to be formed, why agree to it? He could have insisted on Yoruba nation afterall the old western region is bigger than many British colonies.

Same Awolowo that you're saying he wanted seccession clause chickened out after agreeing with Ojukwu to leave if Biafra leaves. He even joined the Hausa-Fulanis to ensure there's no possibility of seccession for Biafra or Oodua

Dude colonialism was still fully in gear at that point but only that nationalists were springing up. They were influential but still the Brits still decided who gets what and how. Awo was straightforward about his skepticism of the union, the north was indifferent and had no qualms with the inclusion of the clause, Zik whom was the closest to the establishment said no way. These are known facts. It is also a fact that the thought of or talk of secession became a crime with treason as punitive yet you asked why Awo didn't keep being adamant. These episodes trapped Yoruba and Yoruba interests in Zik's One Nigeria. Do you know how much changed within that period till the beginning of the Civil War? Do you even know that Zik and his NCNC crew voted against Yoruba towns of Kwara and Kabba to be rejoined with the West? These events changed the dynamics of Yoruba interests in Nigeria and we moved on. Show me a document to the effect that he agreed with Ojukwu to leave also if Biafra leaves, I'll wait... Even the popular food blockades & currency switch Awo didn't explore until Ojukwu invaded Ore with plans to proceed to Ibadan and Lagos. Stop blaming others for your gaffes.

DMerciful:
I'm not shifting any goal post....whatever clause Awolowo advocated for even if were to be in the 1960 constitution ia irrelevant because that constitution is no longer in use.

If truly Awolowo believe in it, he should have pushed rather than accepting Ziks position which makes him a weakling. Awolowo is just as culpable as Zik so this bunkum you're spilling is actually pedestrian!

So at this age you still fail to realize that actions of yester-years have on some occasions, eternally damning consequences? The past don’t disappear like that if not Igbos wouldn’t be stuck in post-civil war trauma. It’s funny you made a ridiculous statement like Awo should have kept pushing. I don’t think you have a full grasp of our political situation then. Great Britain chaired the constitution conference in 1954, they simply had the final say. Awo used a day to make a case for the clause’s inclusion, Azikiwe & NCNC spent the next day to rubbish the possibility of this. The Colonialists preferred the submission of Zik and ratified an Article that pronounced secession drive as treasonable. Aftet this, the dynamics of our political realities within the union changed but you are here asking that he should have kept pushing lol. Ridiculous.

DMerciful:
You're too slow. So in your wisdom we're still using the independent constitution?

You are a dunce bro. You asked if Awo was subservient to Zik then. This was pre 1960 and I gave you a brief breakdown of the situation then. You are now asking if we are still using the independent constitution. You shouldn't have asked a daft question of Awo being subservient before. WTF with the goalpost shifting BS?

Emir01:
The most talked about politician of all times in Nigeria.
On your mandate we stand.

If only you lived through the time of Awo.

DMerciful:
You're not making sense! Was Awolowo subservient to Zik?

Then you are incorrigible. Nigeria pre-independence was subservient to Great Britain but it was a composition of 3 regions. The entity with the final say at that period was The Queen so having a common front or at least 2/3 on issues bordering on the future of these nations was imperative. Awolowo foresaw a problem with this unholy unification and made it known that the constitution of the state should include a secession clause. He was refuted by your forefather Azikiwe (the grandfather of One Nigeria you tag northerners as today) when he made the statement of ‘the indivisibility and perpetuity of the federation’. Awo was called a tribalist and secessionist. Britain affirmed the unity of the state on this basis. Awo and Yoruba licked their wounds and moved on. How can you try to still rationalize this eternally damning miscalculation from your forefathers? Today you come online disturbing the peace of everyone as if you didn’t mess this up right from the onset.

MumuAFONJA:
Awolowo is a potential skull miner just like rapist Muhammad de terrorist

Alright Chinedu. Now run along ———->>>>>

HITsquad:
You finished observing jumaat and immediately mounted a hunt to kill an innocent girl?

now I believe something is seriously and seriously wrong with Islam! people don't come out of their place of worship with hearts full of hatred and violence. people come out of their place of worship with hearts full of love!

Islam is not a religion, Islam is obviously a cult

This is what Igbos have seen since 1960s... and the rest of us are only seeing it now?

we can't co exist with these people... the South and the north does not share the same mentality....

divide this country now!

Awolowo saw it before independence, Azikiwe opined that the unity of the country was non negotiable. Now here we are.

UtuokeAlcoholic:
Do you believe in such unintelligent lie? What proof do we have to believe in the blatant loes

What does a bereaved man stand to gain from making up conversion stories? Not like it was going to bring his girl back.
I think it is you that should introspect properly.

kingyakos:
My Muslim friend is now a church drummer

Lol like someone said earlier, the horrors and persecution early Christians faced should ordinarily have obliterated Christianity but here we are still kicking.

Ayomi90:
No lies, even in South West here I've seen someone who because of that horror event converted. It is expected.

No lies. One of my old flames a mainstream Muslim back then, is now solidly active in the church.

DrChukki:
To make this war simple, bring out Putin and bring out Zelensky...

Let them fight... Whoever that wins, the country will be declared the winner.

I don't understand why a whole nation will have to suffer just because of 2 persons...

Well unlike in Nigeria where anyhownesscracy is practiced, Zelensky isn’t doing things by himself but by the will of the people. This resistance was sanctioned by their parliament so that’s basically what the people wanted unlike in Autocratic Russia where Putin does whatever.

TheNiceGuy:
Why do you have to put that tag Muslim?

What's your aim?
What are you trying to achieve?
Is he a spokesperson of Muslim?


Was that how the SAN who called for the extension of PMB stay in office for 6months who's a Christian addressed?

Was his religion bashed the way you unthinkable lots are already doing?

Hypocrisy kee u all

I think you are the slowpoke here. What would you have had him call him? This one isn't concerned about the economy, education or insecurity. He only wanted actions on the image of the greatest conman in history whom brought Islam. Anything outside that is none of his business, not even his family so he knows what he wanted but apparently you do not.

drlateef:
When we say ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaida are all the creation of US, France, Isreal etc. some people will shout with stinking odour that we are deranged. Who is mentally deranged now? The aim of creating these stupid Muslims is to destroy and tarnish the image of Islam and Muslims. Because Muslims are the greatest victims of these devils everywhere. How could they be fighting for Muslims by killing them? When any of their bullets enter Israeli territory they will be on their knees begging forgiveness. France created Boko Haram to be able to gain access to mineral resources including Uranium and gold in lake Chad and other parts of west Africa. By displacing the populations using terrorist groups, they are able to do their business of illegal mining under the guise of bogus fighting for democracy. Truth shall prevail,

Laughable perspective from you. Everything posted by Western media is propaganda but Russian outfits is the truth abi. At the beginning of this way, Russia recruited Chechen Soldiers most of whom are known Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists you possibly share similar views with. These are known facts so when you are pushing your corny opinions, say facts only.

OBALOLA55:
JESUS IS NOTHING BUT A PROPHET AND MESSENGER OF GOD, STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE MR MAN

That is exactly the point of this thread. From your perspective as a Muslim I suppose, he was a prophet right? From ours as Christians, He was God the Son. Now every time you people make him redundant to the status of a prophet, that’s blasphemy to us. But, because Christians aren’t illogical beings, we don’t charge to chop off your heads on that basis. This isn’t complex to understand. What happens if Christians chooses to go the Sokoto fundamentalists way whenever you call Christ that or ridicule the Bible?