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Quite unfortunate but It has been the way of the world like you rightly pointed out. Empires are forged from human strength. Strength of the weak. Barbaric slavery has been replaced with an even more receptive civilized slavery. Knowledge gives power and wealth, parameters that define who's captive and who's free. While I don't agree with the medium of development achievement by the Emirate I do understand that at every point in time in human history there will always be people, the weak who'd be preyed upon because of their lack of knowledge_{that which makes us free men} and a predisposition to survival first.
Let us not cry too much for the bereaved cos if we looked closer to home we'd see a replication of the ''Dubaiesque treatment'' if not by us, then by our kinsmen in the manner we treat our househelps.

Abeg joor! All these westerners!! Their focus is now on China. Wait until Africa begins to develop . . . . . .

The lessons I've learnt from all these is that infrastructure development is done by cheap labour. Egypt did it with the Jews, Europe and America did it with Africans, Dubai is doing it with indians and the like and so on and so fault. . . . . .

Question is who will Africans use when our time comes??

[quote][/quote]Nigeria once had it in sight but missed the mark due to tribal sentiments. If we get another chance our cheap labour will be from within us cos we got the population and unskilled manpower unlike the Emirate has never been in short supply. We have a blueprint already of this-the NLNG project in Bonny during its first 3 trains employed alot of unskilled manpower and gave jobs to the many unemployed! If we can set aside nepotism and greed for once we can have a set timeline and plan to replicate the Dubai feat with an even less hostile environment unlike the Emirati desert.  
Its doable and by us.

AjanleKoko:
Article is crap jare.
I don't know why Europeans and Americans want to have it all their way in every country they go to.
Dubai is cool. Just go there, take a chill pill, enjoy the efizi, and hightail it back home. Arabs generally are not the best people to work for, but they're okay so long as you understand them and ride out their excesses.
If you're in doubt, just try working with some Asians (Indians/Chinese). Then  you go learn say Jim Reeves once sang fuji

Dubai is cool in the short term(now) especially for the visitor who comes and goes and the Emirate has done above well for her citizenry, but the challenge of sustaining the growing populace from within a very hostile environment ( water resource) will test the will of the builders of this once arid land.

tensor777:
^^^ This thread is about the manual workers in UAE and not Nigeria's existential problems.

If you looked hard, just before my comment you'd have seen it addressed to a certain Elowa. Scroll up and you just might make the connection, who knew!

@Elowa,

I can go on to hammer on our being multi-tribal as a reason for the various mis-step but the truth is we missed the mark just after the British left. Those with nationalistic ideas( which is evident in Dubai) got trapped somewhere along the lines in tribal and ethnic sentiments. The chaos we witness and are yet to begin to address is a fallout of founding fathers who missed it and children who would rather not learn from their fathers mistake. We don't have a plan for anything and how we expect to succeed is utter folly.

Oba234:
how did did this topic turn into a black issue. I thought the problem is that people from countries such as indonesian, Malasian, india are force into slavery in Dubai. when did this people become black?

The write up has got Ethiopians running around the Emirate as nannies as well

omoabike:
What I kept wondering about while reading through this article is what the governments of these countries are doing diplomatically to take care of their citizens. It is really sad.

Yes it is, but for them it is a workable blueprint to much desire success. As you'll find the majority of Emiratis care less about how they've become wealthy overnight as all they need and desire is granted by their governement. It is the same blueprint Hitler used, give the people what they desire and you have almost total control of their mind.

Reminds me of the saying, ''the more things change the more they remain the same. The slave ship medium revived in civil times! The way of the world is strange, the same people who cry and scream blue murder about african leadership invent policies that forever keep the channel of slave-master going, it is as if to say find a blueprint that works for you and develope your nation even if at the exploit of the many weak. Someone was said, the same ships that took away slaves brought in the bible. It is the way of the world people, Enough said.

PS>> The irony of it is that some of us here keying away may be in similar one-way ticket job

Reminds me of the saying, ''the more things change the more they remain the same. The slave ship medium revived in civil times! The way of the world is strange, the same people who cry and scream blue murder about african leadership invent policies that forever keep the channel of slave-master going, it is as if to say find a blueprint that works for you and develope your nation even if at the exploit of the many weak. Someone was said, the same ships that took away slaves brought in the bible. It is the way of the world people, Enough said.

PS>> The irony of it is that some of us here keying away may be in similar one-way ticket job

Reminds me of a saying, ''the more things change the more they remain the same''. while whatever has gone on ain't right, it is the way of the world. Today the GCC's (Dubai especially) have found a way albeit exploitative and nefarious to build their dream nation via the strength of the weak asian, yesterday it was the immigrant Americans and Brits oiling the foundation of their respective nations through the sweat of black slaves, people just like your today asian slave worker. Nothing really has changed and the exploitation of the weak will continue in this life.

Dual Core:
12:31 am
**phone rings**
Okay D's babe wakes up and picks

Okay D: Baby! It's more than words,
It's more than what you say,
It's the things you do,
oh yeah,

Now that I've tried to,
talk to you and make you understand,
All you have to do,
is close your eyes,
And just reach out your hands,
and touch me,
Hold me close don't ever let me go,

More than words,
is all I ever needed you to show,
Then you wouldn't have to say,
that you love me,
Cause I'd already know,

What would you do?


Okay D's Babe: Are you done?

Okay D: Yes dear, that was from my heart

Okay D's Babe: Ok, make westlife no catch you sha

**Babe ends call and goes back to bed hoping she continues the dream she was having about Okay D banging her pieces**

Biko nu, ona no go kill person for dis NL .
Public speaking is an art, so too writing. One can endear himself/herself to his/her listening audience based on how articulate his/her points are put together; therefore if you choose to seek public light you must prepare yourself for the responsibilities that come with the office. she's the wife of an incumbent president and expected to at some point represent him in minor civic duties. Imagine isuch public forum where Dame Patience Jonathan was holding brief for her hubby,

Anything said here and carried forward wouldn't have come from the heart, you alone know her personality and that's good enough ground on which to build your wits, you must have done something for the ''green light'' she gave you in the first instance, whatever that was, it worked! That's your cue, develop and run with it.

PS>> Funny quips from Dualcore.

Possibly a call out sign for reinforcement . The bridge is under daily strain and it won't be out of place for an occassional near-mishap experience to be blown out of proportion. That said, it should be investigated and not just brushed aside, me i go wear my live vest drive on top TMLB just in case

Igwe-1:
Innosson products are unbelievably high quality. I was amazed at the caliber of products they had. I have been in those cars myself, and have been in different parts of the world driving different cars. I guarantee you that the quality of those cars will rival any car maker in the world. His young company is impressive and we should be proud of him. Quality is not his problem, patronage from Nigerian government and Nigerian people is and if i were him, i wil shop around and invade other willing african countries with those products. We should Celebrate Everything Good that comes out of Nigeria not condemn it.
Reading through these posts, i can see ethnic sentiments and biases. Its not about the man, its about All of Nigeria and the pride we take in ourselves. SHAME ON SOME OF YOU ETHNIC PIGS.

Instead of rambling and name calling_{which frankly tells alot about the caller} why not channel your energy towards promoting Innoson intelligibly by giving us hard facts about mileage-to-fuel ratio, how its suspension & transmission systems works equally as good as what is in the market, even better; statistical facts like these will more than move a pessimistic Nigerian to try the product, or you don't think so? People's natural instinct and allegiance to a product is first to quality; naim make u go hear even a lower class Nigerian respond with an ''e go last if i buy am?'' retort. So my friend it ain't all about putting out a Nigerian product just for the sake of it, its about meeting and surpassing already exisiting standards in the market that will gaurantee sales and longevity of Innoson. If e good like you say it is, I expect Ekenedilichukwu, Young Shall grow, and the lot of them to give it a go, after all charity they say begins at home, abi?

Horus:
The Nigerian Gouvernment is right to patronise Nigerian products. There are no Nigerian restaurants in Chinatown and there certainly is no Chinese Food restaurant in Chinatown owned and operated by a Nigerian family. If a Nigerian person tried, the business would be shut down, before it started. Why??, Economic Violence. Every group of people understands practices and strategically utilizes the concept of economic violence, except Nigerian people. In fact the economic violence that we, as Nigerian people, practice is economic violence against ourselves. Economic violence is the art and science of using the exchange of money for goods and/or services as an aspect of ethnic warfare, survival and prosperity. The Chinese will not support a Nigerian business over their own, because they are not interested in ethnic suicide. The Chinese are logical, as self preservation is the most basic of human instincts. So not only will a Chinese person not support a Nigerian business over a Chinese business, they take it one step further and plant their business in a Nigerian community and implement plans to take Nigerian people's money. This ideological posture is pure and scientific economic violence. Replace Chinese with any other ethnic group besides Nigerian, and the picture becomes clearer. The above is not a condemnation of Chinese, Korean, Arab or white businesses at all. It is a condemnation of Nigerian people who have forgotten The "Nigerian First". Every ethnic group has mastered this concept except Nigerian people. It is in my interest to come from a powerful people. Therefore, my interest is committing economic violence on behalf of Nigerian people. That means purchasing a Nigerian or African person's service or product "first" before I purchase any other race's service or product.

Of course if the product is good every Nigerian that can afford will patronise, not rocket science my friend. Nigerians work to earn money and shouldn't be expected to throw it all away in the name of I-like-my-country. If e good we go buy

Kobojunkie:
It tastes like Cardboard in Nigeria . . . same goes for Wallis Icecream, Uncle Soyo, Milo, etc. However, if you purchase the foreign versions of some of these products, you will immediately taste the difference

I think brand identity should count for something, abi na only profiteering we go dey do here? Everyone finds it convenient to blame the government on every thing but fail to take responsibility for what's under them. Quality shouldn't shrink and must not be compromised otherwise patronage realistically will go south as well. Nevertheless, government has a role in offering tax breaks to companies that strive to keep quality going even in difficult times. Where's is the balance?

Even the regulators of perceived standards^{son & daughters} are hungry and look the other way for products whose quality we can meet! I mean have u guys tasted cabin biscuit of late?

The annoying thing is we don't even need to innovate, just to copy and improve on what has been! Yet we have scums in leadership who'd rather feed fat from the till that apportion and use right what is meant for quality education. So sad.

redsun:
The only time we will become fully independent as a people is when [b]when we become technical,being able to put metals,plastics and all the bit and pieces together to meet our needs and any step toward that is a giant leap for any black nation in the quest for sovereignt[/b]y,it should be encouraged.

It is the duty of any reasonable government to maintain and improve manufacturing standard.

An investment in quality education should gaurantee that, but we are in that period of care-free corruption, that point where quality and emancipative education isn't valued as  much as stashing dollar notes in Swiss banks. The syndrome of short-sightedness amongst the ruling class_{partly due to an indocile following public} has stagnated the nation in this place overt dependence on other nations for quality goods and services.
We can find a way to improve on a bad product if we resolve to put education first. Goods, efficient and worthy ones can hardly be qualitative if discovered flaws in their first instance of production are not corrected in future produce. Imporvement is waiting on us, we just need to make the choice to desire and work for the best.

In a country where we don't have statistics of how many people are qualified to vote prior to election one would think these should have been settled long ago:
1. Census to determine how many we are exactly &
2. How many of that lot are qualified to vote.

The multiplier effect will be monumental.
Easy and transparent tallying of votes.
Constructive planning and common sense distribution of scarce wealth to ease weightier matters.
platform for future project scalability, learnings and reviews
Easy means of monitoring birth control( 9ja smaller than Califrornia has an estimated half the population of USA!), as well as movement within towns/villages/district,
Means of providing the much needed security as biometrics should be inclusive in the system.

Voter reregistration is good/welcomed but in this period of election will only serve the purpose of the incumbent-folks who want to win at all cost.
Data collated during census can be used as a reference to checkmate future elections if well developed.
If only the opposition would seek to fight the required battle and place their energy and wits in the right way then corruption will be gradually minimnized.
But in a country where sincerity of purpose is lacking and where class corruption is the order we we'll keep hearing the likes of Tinubu and co utter the usual words-to-appeal public conscience without any groundwork that will bring about concrete positive change in their lives.

Okay, good and much needed. Forming the party is one thing grounding and grooming the required people to remain within the created structure and policy is another. Especially in a country of ours where trust between the governor and the governed is non-existent. If the DFPF can find a strucuture under which winning or wrestling power from the ruling PDP ain't the major goal but offering altruistic opposition at primarily the council levels in the forthcoming elections it would have achieved much. What they haven't in money they can give by shadowing the ruling party and therefore check their excesses.  They must aspire to be a party that the average Nigerian can identify with, apsirants who'd meet their people wherever and whenever we call, people we can risk our lives for by peaceful protest when they call on us to do so. Welcome DFPF!

Yes, they are Ihonvbere ; and this only becomes clear to party faithfuls when they aren't anointed by their respective kingmakers.
lwkmd! persin open eye, take leg waka join party wey OBJ, Anenih, Odilli, Kalu, Akala, Alams dem dey come expect to find saint Theresa amongst, i laugh in Benin!

tkb417:
im not an illiterate

add or remove to the debate going on and dont throw meaningless add ons
i dont know where it can be found in d bible but i know its there

and whats your 3000 members spat al about?
was it Adeboye that stole money?

I don't recall calling you one either, only said to check/proof read b4 puslishing, when you write such a statement in a public forum: ''God did not know about Lucifer till he started his rebelion'' you deny the omniscience of God. to say God did not know is to deny that trait of ALL-KNOWING. Besides, an illiterate is one who can't read or write, but you can; just your proof reading*_{apparent lack of it actually}* that was called into question.

@ topic,

Good freeze. The next line should be a fast trial and if found guilty all frozen monies sent to Intercontinental Bank Nigeria. Such monies should be appropriately or share-wise distributed to Intercontinental Bank shareholders who lost their monies investing on a ruse set up by Akingbola and Ololo and co.

tkb417:
NO SIR!!!!!

The principals in the cases we presented only got found out when the actions became public knowledge

God did not know about Lucifer till he started his rebelion.

G.O did not know till EFCC found him out. If God didnt know Lucifer was gonna rebel, how would you expect G.O to know Akingbola was stealing prior to EFCCs investigations

is G.O Central Bank?

as for Adam and Eve, God got to know when they were hiding their unclothedness? why didnt God shout their names when they were about to eat the fruit? The disciplinary action was after they got found out

G.O got to know after the thing became a public thing and yes, the man was derobed
saying G.O should have known when he was stealing when he isnt the director of banking supervision is erroneous

Maybe you should check the meaning of omniscient before typing the bolded part next time.

wow!, the battle between free capitalist and tread-carefully socialist.
Both parties mean well, just differ in your core interest.
The capitalist are right when they say other developers can and are free to look inwards mainland Lagos and carve out a niche for themselves. I think the onus lie with the socialist to look for such and make their case with such developer(s). Why hang a man when he sees and pursues a well publicize risk with his fortune? Perhaps the reward for his risk are even greater?
If I have learn't anything from the sub prime it is that some measure of control/regulation (institutional) must be in place to prevent any economic system of practise from a complete meltdown. Socialism has its benefits so too does Capitalism. Both parties should harness the advantages from their system with the other and a winning solution will emerge.

iice:
[color=#9900ff]I think Mel could have done a good job too. He's one of the best.
Anyway. . .Joaquin Phoenix was actually my favorite character [/color]

Joaquin, the master of bad boy roles. Just like Billy Zane he's got that killer look that makes a chic want to hang around and know the dude, same is true with Johnny Depp.
Quite a charmer.

@Doubleroti & Iice,

The manner in which those lines were delivered just holds one bound. Everything falls in place, the tone of the music, the inspiring words, the countenance of the deliverer etc. Do you guys think Mel Gibson*Role was taken away from him because of age, demamded someone younger, Rusell Crowe would have done a better job? Something in me tells me the aura would have been different.

Thanks for the compliment, Doubleroti. Keep them coming.

I knew a man once who said, "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back''- MDM from Gladiator.

On the passing of his friend and co-gladiator, Maximus said, Whisper to them that I live only to hold them again, for all else is dust and air- Gladiator

My favourite in the Gladiator series: When a man sees his end he wants to know there has been some purpose to his life, Marcus Arelius. Knowing his passing was near, he called his one and only trusted General, Maximus D. Meridius to seek counsel on what Rome should become, of course Commodus(Jaoquin Pheonix) had other ideas, one of the best movies of mine.

tunde1200:
were do we live in life, echoes in eternity. gladiator rosell crowe

@Tunde1200
Fratres! Three weeks from now, I will be harvesting my crops. Imagine where you will be, and it will be so. Hold the line. Stay with me. If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already dead! Brothers, what we do in life, echoes in eternity
Maximus Decimus Meridius

doubleroti:
Dont quite get the quotes verbatim,


, My name is Maximus (surname), Commander of the Roman army,loyal servant of the true emperor (name), husband to a murdered wife and father to a mothered son, and i will have my revenge, in this life or the next (gladiator), russel crowe.


, this is madness, this is politics, (Jack Sparrow)

My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.~

There are no monuments dedicated to me and my name will soon be forgotten, but I 've loved another with all my heart and soul. And to me, this has always been enough" - Nicolas Sparks<The Notebook>

. every great quote is only matched by its delivery.

Myrmidons! My brothers of the sword!,[i]voices growling, feet stomping, spears banged against the deck of the Blackseal in a building crescendo*
I rather fight besides thee than any army of thousands
let no man forget how menacing we are, we are lions!
Do you know what's waiting beyond that beach? Immortality! Take it! It's Yours!

You should see Brad Pitt deliver these lines in the movie Troy.