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Below is a testimony from someone who was once refused a visa:

deor03:
my person

i am in the uk now, I re-applied and uptil now my appeal has not been heard. Re-apply forget the appeal and let it run it's course.

Re-application does not do anything to your appeal, just concentrate on the points for refusal in your re-application so that the new ECO's job will be lot easier.

NOTE that each application is unique,

What a superstitious someone. Are plane crashes more frequent that road accidents?

In a way, you guys are right about the refusal letter compositions. I've indeed read up to 5 refusal letters and i remember reading things like: "you have applied for bla bla bla", "you have presented bla bla bla, "i have carefully examined your application bla bla bla", "whilst i am convinced that bla bla bla", "i am not satisfied that bla bla bla", "on the balance of probability bla bla bla",
But mind you, these guys never appealed them but they got their visas in re-applications

Can't stop laughing, Funky's post (about "lazy ECO copying and pasting refusal letters" should be given an award.

Funkybaby, you make me laugh aloud with your allegation that the "lazy" ECOs do "copy and paste refusal letters" What an easy skill, also about the N12000 plus N12000 plus N12000 until ones passport is decorated with stamps. O girl, you get mouth oh!

Now, as for Ufuoslee's case, i understand that you're encouraging her to appeal it because you didn't go through the refusal letter, those who read it will not encourage such; and i'm positive that you'd change your opinion if you see it.
I'm glad that Paribus went through the letter before she withdrew it, and like he advices, i still insist that she reapply and let the former go.

VOR:
Chichi

I am afraid I don't agree with you.

What is so sacred about social gatherings that the police
cannot raid? If it was a church or other religious institute
they raided then I might agree with you that it is immoral,
especially if there was a service going on at the time.
Where in Dutch law does it say the police can't police
social gatherings, please direct me to the provision.

In any country being there illegally is often a criminal
offence. So as I said previously if them no get papers
then they are breaking the law and should expect to
get arrested and possibly deported no matter where
they are found.

I agree with you, 100%

mrpataki:
I wish you could put the refusal notice here for us to read and then a tangible advice could be given. However, is your sponsor in the UK willing to make himself/herself at AIT on the day of hearing in respect to your case?

If the answer is affirmative, I will suggest you carry on with the appeal.

If the answer to the question is negative, I will suggest you get a better sponsor who will release original documents for your application.

There are cases of people whose sponsors sent only photocopies of documents and yet they were given their visas.
Good luck.

@Mrpataki, at first i wasn't impressed at your initial post when you encourage Ufuoslee to go ahead and appeal a case of which she apparently has no original documents to fight with, but your later post convinced me that you know what you're doing (see the Green highlight).
I adviced her to let it go for three reasons:
(1) On the understanding that her sponsor is not willing to give her the much needed original documents to support her appeal, so in that case, she absolutely stands no chance.
(2) In consideration of the time she would spend in waiting for an appeal case of which she's not certain of the result, seven months is too long a time to be wasted.
(3) If the sponsor in question would be willing to produce the original document during the hearing of the appeal, why won't he do the same for a fresh application that would last within twenty days?
Honestly, i never advice anyone to appeal a visa refusal, the best bet it to rectify the reason(s) for refusal and apply afresh. This method has proved to pay more that appeal.

ufuoslee:
But my sponsor says he cannot give out his original and that is why i have decided to appeal

Then, he's not your sponsor, this is how the embassy will see it. A real sponsor would do anything to make his dependant's visa application a success; if really he won't give you the original documents, then, how would the ECO be convinced that he'll take care of you once in the UK?
Either he gives you the original documents or he gets himself off it, no be to carry pikin for back, and he leg dey drag for ground. Either you carry am, or you leave am make he waka. By the way, what would he loss if he gives you the documents for the visa? Nothing, they won't take anything from him.

Let that application go, get the originals of the documents in question and apply again: there's no way you can win an appeal of a visa application that was refused based on the fact that you didn't present the original document. So, do not waste your seven months in appeal.
And if you must appeal, do you now have the originals documents bearing same names as the ones you used in application?

You see, i was fast enough to read your refusal letter before you withdrew it, and i'm hereby going to give your my own advice. In consideration of the presentation of your application documents, i'm afraid that you don't stand a good chance in your appeal, the ECO obviously have many clean reasons to refuse your application. I advice you not to appeal such case, instead, re-apply and rectify the errors you made, use only original doccements (no photocopy), it's better not to apply at all than to use photocopy documents

Ufuosele, are you online?

Dantecmu:
PPLE JUGEMENT DAY DRAWS NEARER EVERY SECOND AND I HAVE ALL LOOPHOLES COVERED EXEPT FINANCIAL ASPECT. NOW THE ISSUE IS THIS WOULD BE GOING FOR MY INTERVIEW SOON AND I WANNA KNOW HW MUCH BANK STATEMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS FOR  HOLIDAYS AND ALSO IF I NEED TO COLLECT A PHOTOCOPY OF MY HOST GREEN CARD CAUSE ALL I HAVE IS AN INVITATION LETTER. ACCOMODATION, FEEDING TAKEN KARE OFF BY MY HOST AS INDICATED IN THE LETTER OF INVITATION. I NEED OPINIONS VIEWS FROM PPLE WHO HAVE BEING DER AND EITHER CONQURED OR WAS CONQURED. I HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME LEFT PSYCHOLOGICALLY AM READY SPIRITUALLY AM GOOD TO GO PASSPORT WISE AM TRAVELLED BUT I KNOW THAT STILL DON GURANTEE ME JACK WITH THE AMERICANS.CIAO!

Dantecmu, Boy, it shouldn't be so. You're not at all honest with yourself nor with your correspondents, sometimes (as your various posts reveal) you claim to have a lot of money as one who works in a "multinational org", but here i see you worried about your bank statement, your accommodation and feeding.
This is your quote below.

Dantecmu:
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF A MY COUSIN WHO IS A STUDENT IN CANADA CURRENTLY RUNNING AN UNDERGRADUTE PROGRAMME IN CANADA CAN INVITE ME FOR DECEMBER HOLIDAYS I WOULD BE SPONSORING MYSELF BECAUSE I WORK WITH MULTINATIONAL ORG HERE IN NIGERIA AND I HAVE BEING TO SOUTH AFRICA, UK AND IRELAND. THIS IS QUITE IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I DONT WANT MY PASSPORT MESSED UP. THE ISSUE NOW IS CAN A STUDENT INVITE ME TO CANADA PLEASE YOUR VIEWS ARE KINDLY AND URGENTLY NEEDED.THANKS
CIAO

You also stated that you were in the Uk and Ireland, and you'd then visit South Africa "to spend a week". With all these bragging, is it not questionable that you're here worried about a bank statement for an ordinary visa?
Here's your post below:

Dantecmu:
Well this is my story january 2007 i had an empty passport with no visas on it with 1 denied application from the american embassy some few years back. i told God look by dec 2007 i want to have travelled in and out of this country as many times as possible as we speak now i just left london for ireland and am goin in to south africa to spend  a week before goin back to nigeria i work in nigeria and am comfortable by Gods grace am still a young boy in his early 20s the trick is this God first honesty and never give up spirit. i still plan to visit all mighty yankee before december by Gods grace.
observations are if you are ok back home please remain there and come here to see your friendz and go back home exept u are on study visa or working visa that is d truth am presently in dublin and can't wait to go back home naija boiz down here miss naija like bad i tell u derz no where like home so all them niggaz who think its all rosy out here u better think twice no space 4 lazy man here o hope you learnt something from this post
ciao

You privately, and publicly stated that you'd be going to the US soon, but how come you're here talking about Canada and a bank statement for the visa?
Remember you even lied about your name and you couldn't remember the name you gave before in the sms you sent me. You brag too much, you say things that you're not, and you claim to be where you've never been. You'd do better when you start to be honnest with yourself. There's obviously not truth in you.

Dantecmu:
Mr Vic justice its a pity that i actually did think i could confide in you its a real pity u don't know me and u don't know what my plans are but it looks like u got time digging into pples former post as for me and my travel history i have being to the so called dublin u hold in high esteem and it wasnt a big deal to me sincerely speaking i did prefer naija to that country if i had not being to dublin your base then it would have being a big deal. i gat ma plans i know my plans and if u claim to be good with the embassies then you should know that the US don't give a hoot about how far u have being to. i feel sad that i have to actually write this to u but guy u just messed up EVERY LINE I POST ON THIS THREAD IS A TRUTH so as for ADURO( i don come stay ) like u in dublin just hush your mouth ok. u settle for ireland cus u can't get a US visa thats the truth cus i don't see wats the big deal is in EIRE i came i saw i conqured i stayed at sweepstakes at ballsbrige ok had fun and came back to naija so plsssssssssssss BASSY no make me spit fire. you ust fked up take your wifes picture off this post ok am sure she should have given u her GNLB number to get a security JOB mr vic just chill out ok make i no open your ASS wher in eire do u stay tell me where do u stay? N LASTLY I THINK I SAW SOME ONE LIKE YOU AT THE CITY CENTRE DOING , hushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

@Dantecmu, Do not confide in me, i won't accommodate your lies. Liars should have good memories, but you don't have it, your lies catch up with you in discrepancies. I thought you're genuine, and i corresponded with you, but you ran away when i cought you bragging. You couldn't remember what you first told me your name is, and i doubt you'd remember the later.

Dantecmu:
Can we all read this and see what my  ADURO friend told a fellow Nairaland user guy aint u wasting your own time in EIRE where there is practically nothing nothing nothing  wise up o BASSY.

[quote][/quote]Funny you! Haven't you read or (at least) heard that Ireland has the 2nd best economy in the world after Luxemburg?
But in your text messages, you said you didn't have fun because it was boring, and now, you said you had fun and returned home. LIAR!
With all your big mouth, you still don't know that Irish citizens don't need visa for the States?

Dantecmu:
PPLE JUGEMENT DAY DRAWS NEARER EVERY SECOND AND I HAVE ALL LOOPHOLES COVERED EXEPT FINANCIAL ASPECT. NOW THE ISSUE IS THIS WOULD BE GOING FOR MY INTERVIEW SOON AND I WANNA KNOW HW MUCH BANK STATEMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS FOR  HOLIDAYS AND ALSO IF I NEED TO COLLECT A PHOTOCOPY OF MY HOST GREEN CARD CAUSE ALL I HAVE IS AN INVITATION LETTER. ACCOMODATION, FEEDING TAKEN KARE OFF BY MY HOST AS INDICATED IN THE LETTER OF INVITATION. I NEED OPINIONS VIEWS FROM PPLE WHO HAVE BEING DER AND EITHER CONQURED OR WAS CONQURED. I HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME LEFT PSYCHOLOGICALLY AM READY SPIRITUALLY AM GOOD TO GO PASSPORT WISE AM TRAVELLED BUT I KNOW THAT STILL DON GURANTEE ME JACK WITH THE AMERICANS.CIAO!

Dantecmu, Boy, it shouldn't be so. You're not at all honest with yourself nor with your correspondents, sometimes (as your various posts reveal) you claim to have a lot of money as one who works in a "multinational org", but here i see you worried about your bank statement, your accommodation and feeding.
This is your quote below.

Dantecmu:
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF A MY COUSIN WHO IS A STUDENT IN CANADA CURRENTLY RUNNING AN UNDERGRADUTE PROGRAMME IN CANADA CAN INVITE ME FOR DECEMBER HOLIDAYS I WOULD BE SPONSORING MYSELF BECAUSE I WORK WITH MULTINATIONAL ORG HERE IN NIGERIA AND I HAVE BEING TO SOUTH AFRICA, UK AND IRELAND. THIS IS QUITE IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I DONT WANT MY PASSPORT MESSED UP. THE ISSUE NOW IS CAN A STUDENT INVITE ME TO CANADA PLEASE YOUR VIEWS ARE KINDLY AND URGENTLY NEEDED.THANKS
CIAO

You also stated that you were in the Uk and Ireland, and you'd then visit South Africa "to spend a week". With all these bragging, is it not questionable that you're here worried about a bank statement for an ordinary visa?
Here's your post below:

Dantecmu:
Well this is my story january 2007 i had an empty passport with no visas on it with 1 denied application from the american embassy some few years back. i told God look by dec 2007 i want to have travelled in and out of this country as many times as possible as we speak now i just left london for ireland and am goin in to south africa to spend  a week before goin back to nigeria i work in nigeria and am comfortable by Gods grace am still a young boy in his early 20s the trick is this God first honesty and never give up spirit. i still plan to visit all mighty yankee before december by Gods grace.
observations are if you are ok back home please remain there and come here to see your friendz and go back home exept u are on study visa or working visa that is d truth am presently in dublin and can't wait to go back home naija boiz down here miss naija like bad i tell u derz no where like home so all them niggaz who think its all rosy out here u better think twice no space 4 lazy man here o hope you learnt something from this post
ciao

You privately, and publicly stated that you'd be going to the US soon, but how come you're here talking about Canada and a bank statement for the visa?
Remember you even lied about your name and you couldn't remember the name you gave before in the sms you sent me. You brag too much, you say things that you're not, and you claimed to be where you've never been. You'd do better when you start to be honnest with yourself. There's obviously no truth in you.

Do you give all these mentioned services before or after payments?

yes

This thread has earned a reputation as the most childish one in Nairaland, and the poster is as just equal to it.
Pawpaw, One of these two applies to you, and that is: either you're a little child, or you're just a big time slowpoke, nothing short of these.

I wish you all the best Siena, may it go well as you desire. She's curiously by my side as i type this reply, she asks if you're gonna invite me/us

Oh, i thought you retain the former photo in your profile, i just viewed your profile and i observe something interesting Who is she, if you don't mind?

Thank you, Siena for your well wishes, you make me smile: I've always respected you and your reasonable posts even though i seldom respond; you don't seem to me as one of these unreasonable elements. Thanks for your observations

[quote author=Paw-Paw link=topic=79484.msg1500516#msg1500516 date=1189931358]I think oyinbo people don't take bath because their skin will not show they haven't taken bath for months. They really smell horible when you meet them in a meeting. I was going to walk out of a meeting because of this oyinbo man. Can you believe people who invented bath tubs etc. but refuse to use it. It is sad so sad.[/quote]HEY! THIS IS RACISM, IT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED, YOU CAN'T INSULT PEOPLE FOR REASON OF THEIR RACE, THIS IS INSULT OR ABUSE AGAINST "OYINBO" PEOPLE!
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF OYINBO PEOPLE WRITE SUCH ARTICLE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE?

opensource:
@Vicjustice i like the elaborate hints on this 2 country

can u talk more on applying for student visa to australia I already secured admision too , like requirements , documents to provide and all that

My man, like i said in my first post, i'm not really familiar with Australia, in fact, most Nigerians aren't also familiar, many people fear to even try to apply for Australian visa, but i guess it's similar process with other tough country's visas. I regret to say that i can't give any useful or needed information about this, and i trust that some of our Nailralanders can do better.

You can apply even on the day of your refusal, the "six months" regulation is under the Schengen treaty, it doesn't apply to the UK or Ireland they're not part of the Schengen states.
It's usually written in refusal letters that "the decision does/will not prejudice any future UK visa application that you make". It's your duty to rectify the error of which they refused you the former application.

onatisi:
HELLO GUYS I AM A GUY WHO LOVES TO CHECK OUT IDEA SIEVE IT THEN CHOOSE THE BEST ONE , I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF TRAVELLING OUT OF THIS COUNTRY TO UK OR IRELAND , THE MONEY ON ME NOW IS 250K, BUT MY MUM JUST CAME BACK FROM UK AND SHE HAS STORIES THAT ARE NOT SO PALATABLE , THS IS MY QUESTIONS SHOLD I STAY HERE AND INVEST MY MONEY ON STOCKS OR TRAVEL OUT AND SLUG IT OUT OVER THERE ?

Hey! 250K!? That's a great deal of money, you can travel the world over with it and still have more than enough change for business. I envy you, man!

Troubleone:
everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, i agree with the vic

Good that your opinion is in favour

chichimma:
@ Vicjustice

Arresting Osuofia does not mean that the audience is innocent but that the Dutch police came for purposes to humiliate and disgrace the West African people and ofcourse put an end to the entertainment. The charter to fly people back home was ready to move on that day.

Two people out of the hundred and something were actually fraudsters and the others were wrongly prosecuted, humiliated and even send home just because they did not have papers. Just because they wanted to have some fun and went to a show. A hundred and something people against two is not worth it . The major of Amsterdam could not even say if they were hard criminals (the brain behind the 419 scams or just petty ones). I guess that the 419rs are laughing their teeth out.

Like I mentioned before my aunt went to the show, she has nothing to do with 419 and so were many other people. Just because Osoufia chants and makes noise about 419 it does not mean that he is one. How many actors/ comedians make jokes or films about certain sensitive or illegal things. The Dutch police went out of line and use the criminal law to get as much Africans without papers. Thank God it is not only me that is/was upset with this entire thing but other political parties as well.

Well, i understand you, but still, i think the Dutch police are trying to protect their citizens, many of whom have fallen victims of 419 scams. We (Nigerians) are to blame.

chichimma:
I think the Dutch police will be happy with people like you ( Vicjustice) on their side however when they start going after churches to arrest scammers and you or a friend/relative of yours are there and have nothing to do with 419 will not be left out. Especially if you do not have papers do not be angry if they arrest you and them and fly off with the victory of catching one or two petty scammers.

Them never born that police wey go send me back to Naija. Thank God for that.

Oh, i forgot to remind you that they might ask for your onward or return ticket (evidence that you're going on to another country or that you intend to return to Nigeria).
As for your question about "visa renewal", DO YOU MEAN VISA EXTENTION?
If so, you have to produce similar documents (not the same with which you obtained the visa because, they might be invalid by the time of extention): you must also produce documents declaring acceptable reasons why you think your visa should be extended.

During my visa days, i never travelled to any country on the date i entered in my application form, i always travel later and it was NEVER a problem.
As a bearer of a tourist or visiting visa, i don't think you'd have any problem except you're attending a particular programme with fix dates. What matters is that you don't go to the country before the validity date: any other time is just ok, but avoid going when the visa is close to expiration period, that would be questionable.
  Usually you don't need any document to tender at the port of entry, just your passport,  except your case is complicated.
  As for the accommodation details (hotel), i advice you not to inform the immigration officers at the port of entry that you changed your plans if you don't want them to send you back to Nigeria: just maintain that you're going to lodge in the same given hotel, nobody cares where you eventually stay once you're in the country.

I share the joy of your success, Paribus. May it continue to be well with you