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POPE II: I asked you the scripture or scriptures condemning the beads.

Didn't you read the post, Jesus never said we should do that.. so anything outside the scripture is unbiblical. there is not scripture to back it up.

Candidstephen: @ukut gp.
1. In our schools (primary & secondary), between skirt and trouser, which are females identified on?
2. The law must be obeyed; Grace gives us chance to repent if we sin: as at the time of the old testament, if one breaks the law it is followed by instant Judgement.

To know how important the law is read: John 5:44-47 & Rom. 3:21.
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Did the law mention trouser, make up, jewelry.... don't quote the woman don't wear man stuff here cause the mode of dressing then is entirely different from now. if the Bible wanted us to dress one way, it will have told us. EG men should wear robes and women skirts. the Bible never specified. And for those who follow the law, keep practicing Judaism.......................

Boomark: So much time and energy, just because of greeting in 2 verses. They now dedicate little or no time to praise God, even when His praise is in thousands everywhere in the scripture.

When we praise God and make our request through Christ, He will grant our request. But as for the Catholics, when they praise Mary, she will touch the Lords heart and the Lord will present their request to the God they refuse to praise. Where on earth did people get this from? SMH!!!

only God will deliver them from some of their heretical doctrines.

POPE II: big hypocrites , I tell you , I exposed that Vicky

do you know the meaning of hypocrite? don't use words you barely understand......

POPE II: quote a scripture condemning the beads?

We are to worship him in spirit and in truth. and during the years the apostles spent together, the Bible never mentioned the use of beads.

kolidave: all this wear trousers don't wear trousers,plait hair don't plait hair,use attachment don't use. tank God say I no be girl ooooo. or else I for don confuse like mad!

. na girls wey wan confuse go confuse.....

try69: Funny how I didn't see "die by fire" in all your quotes...

Hypocrite!!!

it seems you've got a problem with die by fire? quote a scripture condemning this mode of prayer.... and state the gestures the Bible recommends when praying and also the prayer points the apostles prayed.

try69: Oya tell me who preaches the whole truth now madam.. Is it your mountain of fire And christ waited till two thousand years later to establish it? Abeg go sidon madam I too know.. What have you studied Una too funny

You're so ignorant and irrational, what is the relation between your post and mine which you quoted? Anyways no church is perfect because no human is and we make up the church. we are all walking towards perfection in Christ. because the catholic church has been in existence for centuries doesn't make it infallible, better renew your mind and displace the mind of arrogance.

highyo: always remember the most dangerous enemy we need to fight PRIDE

Abegi, see the way you're trying the wash off the beauty in the message of @lastmessenger. You sef you get pride. why can't you renew your mind?

Ukuts gp: may God be praise. Many wants to lay burdens on God's people which God had made free by the blood of his dear son. But i must continue to stand against those evil tradition of men which had been imported into the church of the living God.

you've got a witness in the house................. Amen to that.

try69: So you that believe I'm not a christian because you claim I worship mary is not the one being religious?
Your attitude is typical of the pharisees
Remove the log from your eyes

We aren't saying you aren't a Christian..... you just have to revisit some of your doctrines and test their validity... are they in line with the word of God?// even some of our Pentecostal doctrines are far fetched, we aren't favouring them too...

Mintayo: Some months ago when catholic world wide were celebrating the birth of Mary or so,i was in a community where a larger percentage were catholics,a whole week was declared as a public holiday,no work for the locals and so on.
On that day,young tenage girls about 7 or so carried an image or a statue of Mary on their shoulders and were dancing round the community, the statue wore a wedding gown and everyone was dancing and rejoicing,later at a point everybody bowed down and worshipped the image of Mary, with a lot of drinking,smoking and orgies,it was a sad site...i was very grieved and sad in my spirit.
Or is it the image of Mary at the centre of the community were people go to and pray crying their heart out,if only such energy cld be channeled into studying the scriptures and praying to the real Jesus.
Or is it the hypocritical lifestyles of the priests?...i saw so much and learnt so much.
There is a difference in being religious and being the follower of christ.
May God help us.

Amen my brother.

okpurukata: If your post was questions seeking honest answers, many Catholics would have come to educate you. But you out rightly came to attack and pull down. Please madam bible follower, how will you explain to me why the church beside my house, gathers its members by 12 midnight to break pure water satchets at the junction during night vigils.
How do you explain all manner of seeds in the Pentecostal church, testimony seed, pastor feet seed, mantle seed, etc. Thank you for Pentecostal doctrines. But no thanks.

Did you read all my posts? you just picked one and gbam, condemned my whole message.... trace them and read them.... if you can't do that piss off.

chukwudi44: I have never said i practise sola bible.You say you do so kindly prove it

What is sola Bible by the way.....

chukwudi44: madam please show me where he shouted shikena and please stop speculating!1 besides you are yet to prove sola scripture which is the main principle behind all this arguments

read your Bible and you'll locate it. Didn't Jesus shout when he was calling Lazarus forth? the Bible didn't say a thing about shouting or not shouting.... just pray in line....
Was holy mary or the dead saints included in the Lord's prayer as you clearly posted?

chukwudi44: did the early church pray die!! die!! Did they teach special grace to have sex with sister Ese?

you don't indulge in sexual sin, anyone who does contradicts the scriptures.... and the die die die part as the GO of MFM explained is used when praying against demonic operations......... so is carving images, rosary recorded in the Bible

chukwudi44: did Elijah shout fire? smh

No, cause he was whispering when he said if i be a man of God let fire fall? Where your sense at?

chukwudi44: it is unbilical to shout during prayer.Jesus and the Apostle never practised such.

Jesus taught us how to pray

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, for ever and ever.
Amen


When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you

So praying along with believers in the church is hypocritical...... the early church are hypocrites too cause they were in the upper room praying when foreigners heard they speaking in their languages. Piss off if you've got nothing relevant to say

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try69: Where in the bible did jesus pray shouting FIRE FIRE FIRE! Madam vicky?

Learn to be quiet when you know nothing!!!

Did you read more than scott hann

Na wa oh... Serve God and let catholics be pls

does shouting fire fire contradict any part of the scriptures think before you post
What did Elijah do

DrummaBoy: Oh, I knew that poor woman will be brought in to lay justification to ostentatious living. So let us go to the context in which Christ commended the use of an expensive perfume on Him: He was going to the cross. It was to prepare him for his burial. The question is: did Jesus live like this everyday? Did he live an ostentatious lifestyle? Did the apostles live ostentatious lifestyles? The Pastors buying jets and living in mansion, are they being prepared for crucifixion and burial?

The point is clear these pastors are not living like the Master and thus we must beware of their messages!

how do you want them to travel? these pastors attract crowd wherever they go. so if people see them at the airport they'll surely gather causing public disorder... Private jet is the better option and don't forget they travel a lot.. should they live in face me i face you house? God has blessed them.... they'll face God on that day to speak on how they utilized the blessings............ what they buy is none of your business , work out your own salvation.

Alwaystrue: No. Many reasons why people are immature is because they refuse to study the word of God and stir up their gifts.
People don't study so how can they even be bereans? People don't even know the Word of God and the ministry of Jesus, so how do they even know if their ministers are following Christ as Paul said?
We have access to the Word of God and the bible, but how many study?
Laying blames at doorsteps is not my things, let us look inward and purge ourselves of laziness in study.

Beautifully said again............. if the pastors don't preach, teach and encourage many people will not grow. So through these teachings our faith is stirred up, we are admonished to study the scriptures and we become blessings to the church of God too. but some preachers do otherwise, they don't challenge or stir up any faith in you.... that's why as Christians we must learn to work out our salvation. don't depend on pastors, depend on the Word.

chukwudi44: where did the bible ask the catholics to compile the bible? where did the bible ask us to brose on nairaland?

what are you saying?? browse*

highyo: If you studied your Bible very well, you will understand what the Bible said in the book of Ezk7:19. The lord has handed over the things of this world to the stranger(Kingdom of Darkness) and they shall defile it.
(rev12:27) Anything defiles will not enter the kingdom of God
Don't forget the fact that satan even coat Ezk7:19 to Jesus when he was tempting him that, everything has being given to me, if thou will bow for me, I will give them to you
Pls study your Bible very well
Red Zeph 1:8 (American Standard Bible )
"Then it will come about on the day of the LORD'S sacrifice That I will punish the princes(Satan), the king's sons (Demons) [size=15pt]And all who clothe themselves with foreign garments.[/size]

Mr, do you realize our bodies will not go anywhere? when people die, do their clothes, jewelleries, hairs disappear? no, cause only the spirit resurrects..... all the bible preaches is for us to be modest in all our wearing and adorning...... and stop with this baseless talk and ignoramus attitude........ just point to a scripture that speaks about thread on the hair expressly.....

Ukuts gp: Can u tell me what is funny in it, nobody is above mistake. Thanks

it's your choice of words... the whole post is.... you didn't make any mistake.. Don't lets derail the topic. i support you all the way on this one.

Ukuts gp: It is nt what goes into a man that defile a man but what comes out of him.
Many are hypocrite like the pharisees in jesus's days who accused his disciple for eating with an unwashed hands, they though that washing ur hands every seconds means washing ur heart clean but they are wrong. Your hands can be clean but your heart is very black. When pilate washes his hands that his hands is nt in the crucification of jesus, does that means that his hands is nt in it? Since he was the one that delivered jesus to the people to be crucified.
So also many today, they dnt wear trouser but their hearts and deeds are evil. To them nt wearing trouser implies that they are holy, but they are nt when their heart is black.
Many people's holiness like the pharisee is only outward. They only display outward show of righteousness and nt inward, their heart is poisonous and evil yet they claim to be holy. Holier than thou is their motto. They display self righteousness everywhere they go. This people fail to realise that unless their righteousness exceed that of the pharisees which is only outward they cannot enter into the kingdom of God-matthew 5:20.
We must move from outward show of righteousness to purity of heart and mind. Also read matthew 15:1-11.

This your post dey funny.... but what you're saying is true........................ when i used to buy this idea, i would criticize any lady who wears trousers or uses makeup and the likes........ i thought i was better than them even Joyce Meyers sef... but thank God for renewing my mind now i am able to digest His word more richly than before..... and braking me free from the bondage of man made doctrines.

Alwaystrue: @vickyO, I am glad you understand what I am saying and the scriptures I posted especially in your last quote.
When God has need of something as I said earlier irrespective of if any man throws a fit, He will use it for His work.
Jesus knew the perfume the woman brought was so expensive and because of the need for it, He commended her even though Judas, using human wisdom was thinking otherwise yet could not help the very poor he was concerned about as he was a thief.
Some people see nothing wrong in buying cars for themselves or phones or gadgets but find fault with others. The man who has issues with what people decide to buy based on the need they see should as well not own anything because of the poor around him (that will always be with us) else he is a hypocrite.
Jesus wasn't joking when He said those that leave their family and property for the sake of the gospel will receive in 100 folds with persecutions according to Mark 10:29-30.

I've been reading the post over and over... the message just clicked... thanks for the extra insight

idnoble135: Very well, we should not be in a haste to discard anything. We should test it first.

yeah, true talk......... i wish all Christians could be like you man........ people of understanding

idnoble135: I get you. But you very well have not provided clear cut, proven ways of detecting "self appointed prophets". I guess you let the OP do justice to that.

OK then................FROSBEL, we await your explanation///

Boomark: That is how they go about spreading falsehood out of ignorance. SMH!!! For highyo.

TELL HIM O.............

Alwaystrue: @OP,
3. pastors buying private jet
Is it OK for ANYONE to buy a private jet? Did Jesus talk about buying phones, laptops, cars or even flying in a jet? Whether commercial or private?
Jesus has told us all to proclaim the gospel and if you see nothing wrong in studying your bible on your phone or coming to gain insights on the internet, apply that to what pastors have said they need to proclaim the gospel.
Possibly the first pastor that bought a car and phone would have been persecuted as well.
If God has need of a private jet for His work, no matter how much anyone throws a fit about it, He will use it for the earth is the Lord's and the FULNESS thereof.
Mark 10:30; Luke 19:30-34

this is what she said.................. i agree with her