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 Travel › Re: Nigerians In Chinese Jails_ Please Watch by violent(m): 10:49pm On May 04, 2012 |
MRbrownJAY: bro, we cant sit here and claim that they are all innocent of their crimes, especially when we all know too well about the mentality of our dear brothas and sistas out there. yes, a few of them might be innocent of the crime they are accused of (just like inmates in the US, UK etc) but it certainly doesnt take away the gravity of the issue.I haven't argued that they all must have been innocent of the crimes they were accused of, but the fact that quite a handful may have been convicted wrongly and without fair trial makes this all the more disturbing. In fact, it actually does take away the gravity of the criminal issues as argued. You can't punish an innocent man just because no one was willing to fight for him...You can't simply lock him behind bars without informing his family or his government while taking away the years in his life. That's the only issue i think is worth discussing!!! also, i wont try to say whats right or wrong IN CHINA. the Chinese Gov is the ultimate body to decide on that......and if anyone is not happy with the laws in this country or their judicial system, they can stay the hell away (or behave themselves while there). many foreigners (myself included) have lived in china and never seen a police station holding cell, let alone a jail cell.The fact that you have never seen a police station or holding cell does not mean they don't exist!!!.....and there's absolutely no evidence to argue that all those who have been locked up were locked up for not behaving themselves. If people were locked up without informing their families and their governments, how then can we be sure of the true circumstances under which they were locked up or even more importantly their safety? One of my favorite quotes goes: "A corpse is just a corpse until that corpse is your pops".... If one man suffers injustice somewhere, who knows who the next man may be? If i were locked up somewhere unjustly and my rights to freedom denied, i would love to have a little shrewed of hope that someone with some humane rational sense out there will be fighting my cause, not condemning me along with several others who were being rightly punished for their crimes. For God's sake, these people have families and some even have aged folks. If some of them are not guilty of their crimes, then we ought to be fighting their cause, not throwing mortars at them!!! China doesnt really care of the nationality of the culprits, as we all witnessed with the execution of the Brit Akmal Shaikh for drug smuggling, while the whole British Gov was pleading with China not to....so it sure aint got nothing to do with being Nigerian.My argument here is that China is definitely more cautious with the way it handles British and American nationals. If China has strong evidence proving that individuals from these countries are guilty of the crime they are accused of, then it has a right to stand its ground and it will....otherwise, China understands that it does risk a lot of diplomatic row if it happens to fabricate charges against indivuduals from these countries. In the case of Akmal Shaikh, Britain several representations to China and pulled all the diplomatic strings it could. Outside this, i haven't read of similar cases in recent times. China really does understand that the governments from each of these countries give a fuccck about their citizens abroad....No one cares if 1 million Nigerians get slaughtered in China!!! 1 Like |
| Travel › Re: Nigerians In Chinese Jails_ Please Watch by violent(m): 9:06pm On May 04, 2012*. Modified: 12:43pm On May 05, 2012 |
MRbrownJAY: by the look of these Chinese jails, these criminals are better off staying there, as i doubt 9ja jail look any better, or treat their inmates better. I am very very embarrassed and shocked to say the least! This is nothing but GREED and these dumbheads know very well that they have children and wive but never stopped a minute to think about the repercusions. I feel very sorry for the families they left behind! Its a shame too that most of these people here are IGBOS! Some of our people are just very GREEDY ! !Your post and a few others does assume that the individuals serving jail terms in China must be really guilty of their crimes and deserved to be punished accordingly. Your post rules out the possibility that a few people may have been caught within the seriously alarming Chinese system which shows absolutely no regard for human rights or the rights to fair hearing or fair justice. China is not the UK or the US. In China, it is you against the system, and you stand absolutely no chance if you can't speak or understand Chinese ------- you simply can't argue your case in Chinese courts and your guilt or lack of it rest in the hands of people who wouldn't even recognize the rights of their own citizens how much more you from a country stereotyped for corruption? It doesn't even help that Nigerian's foreign policies are in shambles. hear the illiterate Nigerian minister saying "I was really shocked when i got the list, and we don't know what to do" My heart truly goes out to the families who have to bear the brunt of either these men's irresponsibility or the bitter taste of the insane Chinese system. 6 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Final Subsidy Report: Download by violent(m): 10:07pm On May 02, 2012 |
That is the problem with corruption — the public’s “guardians” and “representatives” cooperate with public enemies to swindle the People phew!!! |
| Celebrities › Re: Alanta Vs Azonto Dance By Majid Michel, Desmond Elliot, Chris Attoh (VIDEO) by violent(m): 9:32pm On May 02, 2012 |
Nothing beats Alanta!!!
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| Politics › Re: President Jonathan Has An 81% Approval Rating: Gallup Poll by violent(m): 10:47pm On May 01, 2012*. Modified: 11:04pm On May 01, 2012 |
[quote author=$tunna]here we go again, im sure the poll is accurate; since i have stated again and again that a few people can only take hold of a whole nation such as nigeria and hold it hostage and rule over it for so long and plunder it so ruthlessly with no consequences and for so long without the tacit approval of the people! what about all those drum beatings and dances yall have anytime there's a new ruler...no matter how he gets there, guns of politics  pls. i have also tried to inform nigerians that they r some of the most self-unaware group in the world! so, no one should be surprised...it is known in psychology that there is quite often a huge difference between what people say they feel and their actual feeling. lol[/quote]I agree completely with you. The poll must be accurate and reflective of Mama Ngozi's view of the current leadership especially given that her three daughters are now forced to walk 6 miles to school since the oil subsidy You know what? I've infact just spoken to 4 of my friends and the 4 of them voiced their approval for President Jonathan, never mind they've not been to Nigeria before, who cares?....I should now publish the results of my findings about how 100 percent of Nigerians approve of the President's leadership! 5 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Open Letter To Alhaji Aliko Dangote On Northern Nigeria And Boko Haram by violent(m): 4:38pm On Apr 28, 2012 |
This is just one pile of horse dung!!!! |
| Literature › Re: Not Sure Of Your Writing Skills? Post Here And We Can Help Each Other Improve by violent(m): 9:38pm On Apr 23, 2012*. Modified: 10:16pm On Apr 23, 2012 |
@Mostojr: Here are my thoughts regarding your post. In the local newspaper article, the writer states that the residents of San Perdito would be best served if they voted out Montayo, the current mayor, and reelected Varro, the city's former mayor. This conclusion [b]is obviously flawed [/b]because it is [b]based on hollow assumptions [/b]that require further strengthening with additional information.I feel the ending of your first paragraph my contain items that sounded a bit too obstinate. Rather than state that the view is "obviously flawed" and "completely hollow", i'd rather state that "The conclusion reached by this writer is based on several assumptions that appears to be lacking in merit and may require additional information." Firstly, the writer states that since Montayo got into office, the population of the city of Sanperdito has decreased. However, there is nothing, in the write-up, that shows the percentage decrease of the population of the the city of San Perdito. In order to convince readers, the writer should have stated the percentage decrease. This assumption is weak, because a negligible decrease in the populations-like 1 or 2 percent-is not enough reason to assume that the current mayor is not doing a good job. In addition to that, a decrease in the population is not equivalent to a decrease in a city's workforce. It is possible that as the population was shrinking, the employeable population doubled. This might be the main reason behind the increase in the unemployement rate in the city.I feel it's a bit dangerous to assume what has not been explicitly stated in the original article or what can not be backed up using data provided by the author. I haven't seen anywhere in the post where the author stated that the current mayor is not doing a good job. It could be that the author's intention is that Montoya is in fact doing a great job but lags behind relatively compared to Varro's achievements--- again, you can't tell unless explicitly stated in the article. Additionally, your arguments as stated in this paragraph does not appear to nullify the author's position that voting out Montoya and reelecting Varro, will best serve the interest of the people, based on increasing unemployment and reduction in population. I feel that from the ending part of your post, you may have only succeeded in providing a plausible justification for the increase in the rate of unemployment. This doesn't necessarily argue against the view that unemployment rate has increased and the people do not like this. You also mentioned that "a decrease in the population is not equivalent to a decrease in a city's workforce"....while this may be true, You and I also know that a decrease in population could also be a causative agent for an overall decrease in a city's workforce, so rather than use words that implies taking a definite position on an argument that could go either way such as "not equivalent", i may be inclined to write "a decrease in population may not necessarily imply a decrease in a city's workforce" Secondly, the writer states that two businesses have closed for each new business that has opened. Here too, the writer does not reveal the type of businesses that have closed, and the type of businesses that are opening. Merely assuming that this is bad for the city is wrong.You are the one being examined, your position is not to state that the writer's view must be wrong because what you think must be right. Your position is to point out the weakness in the writer's argument. In a situation where the new businesses that are opening are way more profitable than the businesses that are closing, San Perdito might actually be on the path to economic growth.Your argument in quotes above and subsequent lines imply that profitability of new business while ignoring the survival of existing business is enough indicator for economic growth. What about the size of the businesses that are closing shops? If Dangote closed his cement manufacturing plant that employs thousands of Nigerians and the following week, my Uncle opens up his local shop where he sells palm wine and employs just two people, your argument implies that this isn't a situation that should ring alarm bells so long as my uncle makes profit? Overall, i feel the things you may have missed from the original article are the assumptions stated by the the author; -- That an increase in population and reduction in unemployment rate will best serve the interest of the people; while the latter may be true, the writer does not explain why the people must desire an increase in population growth which could increase the pressure and demand for limited economic resources. --- That these two economic indicators are directly affected by the individual that has been elected as the Mayor; This line of thought ignores individual behavioral patterns, current economic cycle and important demographics such as retirement age. It could be the case that the global economy was experiencing a boom in the four years that Varro served and things have may have quickly changed since then. There's no evidence to suggest that unemployment may have varied differently if both Varro and Montoya have served in the same economic climate. --- The writer had stated that while Montoya served as a Mayor, two businesses have closed for each business that have opened. This argument implicitly assumes that two businesses are better than one notwithstanding the overall contribution of each business to San Perdito's economy.This argument may also be further strengthened if similar statistics were provided for the duration of Varro's mayoral service. Without this, it may be difficult to see why reelecting Varro may best serve the people's interest. |
| Politics › Re: Senator David Mark In Critical Condition. Flown To Israel For Treatment by violent(m): 1:47am On Apr 19, 2012*. Modified: 2:02am On Apr 19, 2012 |
Senator Mark surely understands that there are more than a thousand hospitals in Nigeria and equally likely many thousands of home trained medical experts that could attend to his flagging health. Why travel to Israel? ...ah of cos, none of these hospitals are adequately equipped and perhaps even more frightening is the fact that the local medical experts are under-trained, overworked and underpaid miserable fellows. Senator Mark doesn't have an incentive to fix this terrible mess even though his office carries enough influence to effect the much needed change....Senator Mark and his family could always jet off to Israel or the United States, the rest of us Nigerians should make do with the terrible medical facilities and frustrated doctors. In as much as i really want to, It's difficult for me to wish Senator Mark a prompt recovery. I respect more, people who can put their money where their mouth is. If you don't have enough faith in the Medical system after four years of being a Senate President, the individual deserves to be hanged by the balls and his dead body shot for being a miserable failure. 56 Likes |
| Romance › Re: Keke-napep wedding by violent(m): 9:55pm On Apr 18, 2012 |
tEsLim: Did anybody notice that there is a decorated Infinity/X6 Suv in the background. I may guess the Marua was a shuttle or somethingtot i was the only one that noticed the SUV |
| Business › Re: Warren Buffett Diagnosed With Prostate Cancer by violent(m): 9:31am On Apr 18, 2012 |
ZUBY77: Steve Jobs died and we are still here. Who cares. His shares are in hundreds of dollars which we cannot afford. Here we are wasting our mtn daily data plan sympathising with a man who can go to moonWhat a pathetic piglet! Steve and Warren have both contributed more to the world than all the individuals from your entire family tree combined. 4 Likes |
| Romance › Re: Men: Do You Like Assertive Women? by violent(m): 8:42pm On Apr 17, 2012 |
TisaBone: wasn't nobody even talkin to you. see this is exactly what i mean. you men have no manners! wut ya'll need is a firm, but loving hand to guide you. everyone knows men only think with one head, and its not the big one. so leave all the big stuff to the more capable sex.When i meant "you" in that context, i wasn't referring to you. I will take you up on your sex offer tho...and the big stuff  |
| Romance › Re: Men: Do You Like Assertive Women? by violent(m): 8:30pm On Apr 17, 2012 |
Nah!...I'm a caveman with multiple testicles, you don't tell me my shyt stinks even if they do! |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 12:27am On Apr 16, 2012 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]If SON is functioning,will this problem have happened in the first instance ? SON ought to ensure highest standard of maufacturing companies not to complain afterwards to them.They should be proactive ! Thank you for acknowledging that I can send a petition to the house of reps as a citizen of Nigeria ![/quote]Imagine a defective argument like this. If SON is functioning, will factory faults still exists? Of cos, duh!...it's called factory faults for a reason, and it's the same reason you get warranty from the manufacturers. I bought a new Canon camera from an electronics shops a few weeks ago and i noticed that the lens wouldn't open, i simply returned it to the shop where i purchased it from with my warranty and receipt of purchase to which the gentleman asked me if i wanted it fixed or replaced with a new one...i opted for the later, and that's it....This is what any sane person would do. I didn't have to petition the house about my canon or write a letter to President....there are appropriate channels to address your issues. Nigerians should stop this utterly disgusting habits of "showing them who i am". |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 12:14am On Apr 16, 2012 |
PrinceDudu: IN MOST SANE PLACES issues like this will not be heard cos appropriate measures would have been followed. down here in my beloved Nigeria the number of complainers will never be enough. Wouldn't you just see this as a step in the right directionCould you kindly not vote at the next elections? |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 11:49pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
PrinceDudu: Oga, if I have the slightest notion about you it definitely will be of one who would let all hell lose on that organization for even letting you use the car for 1 month driving from Oshodi to VI not to mention 5 months and traveling with it. It wasn't a debate but a petition. get it.In most sane places, a petition to the committee on public petition will normally require a minimum number of signatures before the house can consider it of public interest. In the UK, you will normally need close to a hundred thousand signatures. You all can't just pick up your pens and write petitions on the slightest issues you have and then expect the house to convene and deliberate on that....that's what your village King is being paid to handle. You should stop uttering disgraceful rubbish! 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 11:44pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
Chei!...my computer is broken  , time to petition the house. This is ridiculous and I'm very upset, hopefully someone at Apple will be called to explain why one of their several thousand products failed.Whoever embezzled the funds that were meant to have been used to better equip the education sector in Nigeria should be tied to a stake and shot. and while typing this, my watch has just stopped working....that makes for the second petition! 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 11:37pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]so you over-normal sha,why didnt you attack the senate when they summon BA and virgin atlantic ?[/quote]I bet they summoned both companies because a passenger's lunch came too late. chei!...i said it already, the House of Rep members themselves aren't the idiots, the voters are! 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 11:16pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]So until Nigerians that use Hyundai SUVs come out to complain or people start dying,it's only then that the house of reps can come to the rescue ? The House doesn't have to sit because of that. In your Toyota example, did you actually read the part where "GROWING PUBLIC CONCERN"? was specifically noted There are probably a thouasands of people having issues with one company product or the other....by your rather strange argument, you would have us believe it is perfectly fine if the house investigates each of those issues?....then what the fleeping fu[i]c[/i]k is the court for? |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 11:11pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]Just because the victim is a member of the house of reps does not isolate hyundai of the defective problems in its vehicle ? Why did you scream when senate summon British Airways and virgin Atlantic ? There is a problem and that problem must be address. . . .who it affected doesnt concern me ![/quote]There's a court, i'm sure you may know that already! Civil cases are handled by the courts....that's how it works for millions of Nigerians, why should the house of rep member be treated differently? If an issue affects the Public, then the house has responsibility to act....but damn, this is an issue relating to one man who has refused to follow due process but would rather "show them who i am"....and you seriously don't see anything wrong in that? |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 11:00pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]I dont give a flying di-ck who the victim may be but there is absolutely nothing wrong if the house of reps put checks and balances on corporations ! Why is everybody not looking at the problem but attacking one useless lawmaker ?[/quote]The house is being paid millions to address issues relating to public concerns....definitely not a place to settle personal scores. |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 10:56pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth]Did the US congress not invite Toyota over defects in its vehicle ? So whats the big deal about this since someone just have to be the complainant ?[/quote]Here's the Toyota case in the US"There is widespread public concern regarding reports of sudden unintended acceleration in Toyota motor vehicles," wrote Towns, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, in the letter noting "growing public concern" about Toyota cars. "To help clarify this situation, I am inviting you to testify at a hearing of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform." Here's our own case "The House of Representatives at its sitting of Wednesday, 22nd February, 2012 received a petition from you against the managing director, Hyundai Motors Nig Ltd on alleged sale of defective Hyundai Jeep 1 x 35 Elegance GLS OL. To this effect you are invited to an investigative hearing on the matter” Do you see any difference between the two? How about we all form a single long line in front of the house of reps to report issues in our daily lives; starting from the yam seller who short changed my girlfriend....? 1 Like |
| Car Talk › Re: 2012 Mercedes E63 Vs. 2012 Jaguar Xfr Vs. 2012 Bmw M5 by violent(m): 8:28pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
I have a weakness for Mercedes especially the CLS range, but the 2012 M5 is the wild beast running about in my dreams now! |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 5:22pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
[quote author=ekt_bear]Gross abuse of power by these reps if true. Take your car to the dealership and have them fix it. Or utilize your warranty. Don't turn the house of reps into a circus  [/quote]Don't turn? hehehe....that will imply an event that hasn't taken place already.If the house of reps isn't already a circus, please tell where the hell could one get such bursting fits of laughs in this country? Imagine men in their late 50s throwing chairs at each other in presence of a national TV station....what sort of shameful behavior could be more hilarious? |
| Politics › Re: A Nation Represented By Idiots: Nigerian House Of Reps Summon Hyundai Motors by violent(m): 5:13pm On Apr 15, 2012*. Modified: 9:56pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
doctokwus: I dnt understand d responses above.So d house shdnt av summoned d company or what.Who knows whc other buyer had bn affected by d faults in dat brand of car but cudnt get half of d responses& co operation dis man is getting.This is one case of using influence positively for d benefit of others,evn if it may av startd frm a selfish perspectiveDon't mind the posters jare....I'm the only one that sees things from your perspective and i do agree completely with you that this summon is entirely justified. Perhaps the next people to be handed such summons may be the silly Tailor who had used 2 piece cotton stripes to design Madam's party outfit instead of 3 or the unfortunate Barber who ingeniously gave Oga the wrong haircut! You see, these cases are worth investigating at the tax-payer's expense, since we really don't have any pressing problems that ought to be debated and deliberated on in this country. There's no point spending time to ponder on child abuse cases or police murders; there's no point considering the lifestyle of Nigerians since the removal of fuel subsidy; there's no point discussing why cows happen to stray about on our runways or the epileptic power supply which most of us have grown up getting used to. A nation represented by idiots?....No, i completely disgree! perhaps the voting majority are the idiots. Give them a few bags of rice during election campaigns and enjoy your smooth ride to the government house, after which you are then allowed to behave in a way that is totally unquestionable. 11 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Governors Are Running Nigeria Broke- Okonjo-iweala by violent(m): 9:28pm On Apr 14, 2012 |
kingoflag: Lol. And you're smart, Mr. "ALL MY LIFE IS SPENT ON NAIRALAND INSULTING OTHERS". Why don't you go find a job or go snatch a purse or something you bloody cretin?I don't consider my post an insult at all. what is wrong in stating the obvious? I wouldn't really like someone else to waste so much effort trying to get you to understand the simplest things. You've demonstrated time and again that you are a deadbeat....obnoxious, clumsy, immature and completely stoopid! It is of interest to me that people don't waste their precious time trying to get a donkey to learn.....you just don't have the brainpower to do so! |
| Politics › Re: Governors Are Running Nigeria Broke- Okonjo-iweala by violent(m): 6:59pm On Apr 14, 2012 |
manny4life: Now you see why I said I don't wanna argue with stupidity.I'd advise that you shouldn't really be engaging with this dude. He does exhibit a rare condition with a delay in informational processing to the brain and demonstrates abilities far in excess of those considered brilliant. You will most likely end up getting frustrated trying to explain the simplest things to him....He's just not that smart! |
| Crime › Re: Video Of Lady Caught With Guns In Bag Of Garri At Numan LGA, Adamawa by violent(m): 6:29pm On Apr 14, 2012 |
what a |
| Politics › Re: CPC Statement On Buhari's 2015 Candidacy by violent(m): 6:15pm On Apr 14, 2012 |
why is it difficult for people to write a few sentence in pure plain English? why should anybody of sound mind use "Inter alia" when you can simply write "among other things"? 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: Jose Antonio Ocampo Ends World Bank Bid & Backs Okonjo-Iweala by violent(m): 11:01am On Apr 14, 2012 |
slyopez: This sounds more political than merit, i know most developed and some developing nations will support Mr Jim cos of American influence, all the same my support goes to NOI[size=13pt][/size].I'm sure you'd agree that it's a bit ambitious and slightly delusional to assume your support for any candidate goes any further past your laptop. 1 Like |
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