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2buff: I don't remember anyone giving the impression that he was a hitman.
He is a father, seeing his daughter accusted by an adamantly wicked person. And he solved HIS daughter's problem.
Quite simple really.

The other "wicked person" was whose daughter?

Mortals, always thinking they've got God figured all out. You really suppose it wouldn't have been easier for God to simply make the lady's husband love her more than to take away a life?

In another thread, one piglet gave me three months for insulting "God's own anointed daddy"....i bet if i had died within that three months, that swine would have written a 190 page blog on how someone insulted a Man of God and God took vengeance! ....well of course, i did went back to him after three months to tell him what a stoopid man he is and also reiterated my position that i think his G.O is a thieving bastard!

Good people die, bad people die...this is one fact that isn't going to change! The fact that someone dies doesn't make them good or bad, neither does it mean that God loves them any less.

PURE RUBBISH!!!!

Mortals, always thinking God is some kind of hit man they could just call up and ask to "deal" with another!


So God punished someone by taking away his life? How is death a bad thing for the dead? Aren't we all going to die someday anyway? What difference does it make if Fadeke was a God loving Christian who died from Cancer?

It appears that not even Private Equity in Naija can afford to pay the humongous wages reportedly paid to folks in Oil and Gas.

Sagamite: I remember a time years ago that I was itching for Naija food and took a British-born Naija girlfriend to Mama Calabar in Hendon to get take away. If you see the way the woman that was serving us was giving her the bad eye when the girlfriend was ordering what she wanted? I could not figure out what the problem was apart from say the babe get British accent, fine pass am by far or because na say she no get man.

I was just shocked but decided to piss her off a big more with her miserable face by constantly kissing the girlfriend and joking how much I fancy her.

I don't know how you would be working for a restaurant and carry a face like if you are at the funeral of your child. Virtually all staff of Nigerian restaurants have this face and the owners tolerate it. Rubbish!

Your experience is quite hilarious though. I think i'd probably have walked away. Kissing the girl in her presence just adds to her headache!

Unfortunately, I have also been a victim of such hollow and irritable service at Nigerian restaurants on countless occasions. Just last weekend i was out with a couple of friends to eat at a place called Odua 77...You wouldn't believe that after waiting for more than 45 minutes for the food, this chic came out with a totally different order...and guess what? she wasn't apologetic....afterall amala and poundo are one and the same!....i did give her a piece of my mind though!

sholasys: home training is good, if you lack it, one can be Synonyms as their name

You are an iddiot! read your initial response to the post again and tell me if you had demonstrated initiatives of a person with proper home training!

Sagamite: He wants the OP to tolerate the typical of black businesses' poor customer services that is rampant in the UK. And to them it is normal and acceptable.

Let him be working for me and dare insult or be rude to my customers and see how I will put fire up his arse.

LOL!!!

norrisman: I live in the UK and know what it is like working for morons like this guy. His partner and son/daughter are more reasonable human beings and you can see from their reaction to the situation but he insisted on having his way.

If the lady brought physical harm upon the patient, I will understand the meaures he took but that lady is just a product of her formative enviroment (Nigeri). Dont you see how angry people are in Nigeria? add that to the sadness of working as a cleaner in a cold foreign land. The woman was wrong being rude to a customer and unless she was a repeat offender, did not deserve to be sacked let alone the cleaning company's contract terminated.

I digress but I remember a frustrated market woman in Oshodi giving me adirty slap just because I was walking on the sidewalk meant for human beings and mistakenly knocked down one of her Okin biscuits. I could have kept on walking but I stopped and picked up the biscuit, cleaned it on my jeans and said, sorry madam. As I put the biscuit back on her table, she landed a heavy slap on my face. I was shocked! I was going to go all physical on her until, a conductor who had seen the whole event ensue, said to me 'the mana, file ko ma lon tie, Oshodi la wa' meaning ' buddy, forget about waht just happened, Oshodi is a dangerous place'. I walked away with tears in my eyes but on reflection, I concluded the woman was only a product of her enviroment.

Who gives a shyt if you lived in a hell hole? How would you like it if some blonde at a cafe called you a silverback gorrilla? I'd bet you'd be foaming through the mouth and threatening legal action!

Dumbass, the fact that someone's from Nigeria should not mean they could get away with being irresponsible!

norrisman: Why are you making it seem you run an NHS hospital. What you have is an old peoples home! The lady was rude...big deal. u really think that will end up on the pages of the Evening Standard? you must be deluded.

You sacked four people because of 1 rude staff and you feel it is justified. You sir, are a lunatic!

What you did is no different from a bank sacking 5 marketers becuase 1 of the five failed to meet his/her monthly target and thus the team failed to meet the combined team target.

You are CRAZY!

Is it your money? Is it your business? Are the workers working for free? You are MAD!!!!

The lady was rude, big deal? Yes, fucccking BIG DEAL! You don't insult your clients, it dosen't even take someone with less than a half wits to know that!...will it appear on the pages of evening standard? who fuccccking cares mo[i]r[/i]on!!!

Life isn't fair, get on with it or hang yourself in your fucccking closet! If the lady's employers valued their jobs they wouldn't have recruited a sad loud mouthed scumbag who insults seniors....she got fired and those who recruited her too....and who the fuccck are you sir to dictate what right someone has, to do what he wishes with his business?

sholasys: Na wa ooo!!!, This is unprofessional at all. How did you engaged the business with the cleaner company? Was there any service level agreement (SLA)or contractual documents ? Contracts are usually base on timeline and terminating it abruptly must be stipulated and reason for doing so. Do you run an organised HR ? or One man business-like. How long has the cleaner company be working with you clinic ? do they have any service quality issue before. Will you pay them compensation ?. power tend to corrupt, and Absolute power corrupt absolutely. Madam may God for give you. If i am the MD of the company will institute case against you. HABA!!! How many pple have you render jobless bc of one sily girl. Pls reinstate them back else ........

What rubbish are you spewing? So you understand that contracts can be terminated abruptly given that the reason for doing so is well stipulated....and something does not click in your head that bad service could be enough reason?

The cleaner company has a responsibility to ensure that all their staff are well trained to deliver the highest standards and quality of their service, anything short of this is their responsibility as well. The cleaner company is being paid to deliver an agreed service...and if you are not satisfied with the quality of service being delivered, you are well within you right to severe relationships with them!!!...compensation? what stooopid compensation?

How many people has he rendered jobless? who gives a shyt? If in the unlikely case that healthcare regulators have happened to pay an unscheduled check on the clinic and they were privy to the conversation, who do you suppose would be at risk losing their license?

Abagworo: So Innoson does manufacture mini trucks and saloon. I think I'll like to patronize them and I urge every patriot to patronize them even if their car is not up to Toyota or Mercedes standard.

BTW seems they don't know the importance of advert.

Yeah right! I should put my family and I in a product that hasn't been tested and trusted?
when was the last time an auto crash test was conducted on any of these vehicles? what were the results? why should i leave a car that offers high standards, comfort and safety for one which doesn't?

I get the fact that we all have right to make our choices regarding the things we wish to buy with our money and I also love being patriotic, i really do...but when it comes to the choice of a product that could mean the difference between life and death, I'd stick to the ones with the highest standards. Even the bible advised to "choose life"!

This is not the time to exempt anyone from what should be a collective responsibility! My heart bleeds with pain each time i recall my childhood days when the future appeared remotely possible and when my eyes were filled with an inexhaustible enthusiasm to embrace the future!...I look through the eyes of kids these days and i don't find that enthusiasm anymore!...the future is no longer what it used to be, the future is gone with the past!

Good memories are the "best" gifts you can give to anyone.

Okay, l no say you stubborn pass the "average kid" in those days!
Looking at things now, l hereby increase your own to twelve lashes .....and it means you are now in "arrears" of like 1000 lashes!

Can you "please" pull your trousers down right now and let me administer the "arrears"?

Cheers.

Lastpage!

BTW: Dont argue over this, l have seen "gifted" young people whose level of "wisdom" transcends their age and your "posting" points in such direction.
Thing is: A foolish young person will grow up into a foolish "old adult", even when such adult has children!

1000 lashes? even if i thief money that one too much na?

ronkebp: Oh so because the father donated sp/e/r/m for the birth of the child and helped in taking care of the child, gives him the right to exert all his energy into beating the child out of anger? There are parents that have abused their rights of being parents. The other time on this same NL there was a picture of a woman who beat her 6 or 7 year old son to the point of only God knows!!!, you needed to see that picture with all the bruises that poor boy had. So because the boy came out of her, she now has the right to kill him so many parents unknowingly have hurt their children because of this anger thingy, they feel they have to unleash on their kids anytime they want. Correction should be done inlove and not extreme anger.

I think by now it must be obvious that a dad that performs his fatherly duties and even goes the extra mile can't be said to have just "donated s[i]p[/i]erm"

I have mentioned countless times already that the beating may have been excessive and the father might need to be counselled on why he must reduce his disciplinary measures.....but all the talks about calling "UNICEF", "Authorities", "Police" is just absolute Bollocks!

If i stayed awake all night helping my kid with his homeworks and i wake up very early to get them prepared for school, I'd be mad if he came home with a monumental failure written all over his face....will i beat him excessively as described by the Poster? NOPE!!! ....will i beat him at all? ....well, life doesn't take kindly to failures and it's a must that a kid understands that!

You must realize by now that their are more "shallow minded" people on this "bandwagon" than you standing alone not wanting to do nothing.

This child is being physically and mentally abused by the hands of his father. (loved or unloved) If I were there I would make a stand and do something and not just talk about how people should turn their heads.

When you have children, I pray in advance for their mental health and enriched quality of life.

I don't have issues standing alone at all...it's mostly dead fishes that swim with the stream anyway.

Of course, there are other time varying measures of risk based on the so called dynamic risk measures of non-truncated sequential sigma algebras

^^^

u wan blow my head?

Zilja: AND you must don't have any children. Don't have to smoke a pipe to know that that father is WRONG for beating his child as the poster said. Beating and discpline are two diferent things.

When you grow up you will know then.

You are right, I don't have kids...but i wouldn't join the bandwagon of shallow minded people who are quick to call for the father's head for beating his kid. Yes, it may have been excessive and maybe there's need for someone to speak to him about his disciplinary measures...but what's this rubbish i see with people who have absolutely no idea how the family works calling for "measures".."authorities".."police" and what not? That's just excessively stoooopid!

Neither you nor the "Authorities" nor the "OP" will stay awake all night if the boy as much as catches cold...guess who will?

What in people's shallow mind makes them think the father does not in retrospect regret his actions?

What in people's silly thinking makes them think the father does not love the son or the son the father? and if they both mean the world to each other...then what the FUCCK is people's business?

Those screaming child abuse are just high on horse dung! I wonder how many of them actually know the names of their kid's teachers or bothers to help their kids with homeworks

You people should go fucck a squirrel and if you can stop crying over people's headache then you may need high dose of dopamine! nonsense!

Hedge funds are not likely to operate in Nigeria anytime soon. Mostly because the exchange and clearing systems aren't up to standard and investors are likely to encounter severe liquidity issues.

As Denee noted, hedging is one of the ways of mitigating risk. Others are insurance, diversification. The CFA people learned that it is better to build a portfolio of assets whose returns are negatively correlated because this leads to the shrinkage of the overall risk, or variance, of the portfolio. In simple terms, this means that if A, B, C represent the returns of three risky assets a, b and c, then these assets are excellent candidates for a 3-asset portfolio when Covariance (A, B)<0, Covariance (A, C)<0 and Covariance (B, C)<0. The more assets satisfying this condition, the better for your portfolio. In fact, it is possible that the risk of a>4%, risk of b>5%, risk of c>4.5%, but the right combination of these assets yields a portfolio with risk (a,b,c)<2%. That is a magic of hedging.

I think many people are learning not to construct portfolios using Covariances, standard deviations or correlations as a measure of risk. This is mostly because those risk measures aren't stable over time. For instance, correlation in equity classes will increase during high volatility regimes before eventually reverting to their long run mean over time. Many people learnt that bitter lesson in 2008!

Hedge Funds typically reduce their risk with equity derivatives like futures and options. Say for instance you buy 100 shares of Apple and sold 1 contract of Apple call options, you risk reward will be higher than the guy who just bought 100 shares of Apple stock. Hedging with Equity derivatives is one aspect that is very promising for individual investors that can learn the ropes.

It was beginning to look like a cheap blackmail of some sort. Each time they wanted more money...they went on strike. What a big shame! Peharps their work ethics would be less questionable if they had gone on strike to force the government to equip the hospitals with new technology....but no!..the greedy Nigerian spirit in them only wanted more money!

off with their heads!

When things like this happens I give thanks I live abroad.

I agree with your first statement but the rest reads rubbish. This father is in a mental state of his own and will not is not listing to any outsiders. How do you intend for the father to read what you are telling him to do. Is it not follish advise?

The help is needed NOW; waiting for the father to take a class on child develement might very well be too late for the child.

It is a shame that children; no matter where they live have to be subjected to a menace as a parent.

Just because he has money does not make him the best intrest for the child.

Money does not = love.

I bet you are chain smoker! ...how else could a grown ass man type such a load of junk without being possibly high on marijuana?

So what help is needed "NOW"?

It appears many shallow thinkers simply believe that; Not beating a child must = Love! ...#epic fail!

^^^

Putting the girl's picture here is what actually proves that that the girl in mention does in fact exist and not some made up stories. I doubt if anyone would have taken the poster seriously if all she did was to type 90 lines of text describing her encounter with the little kid. Over 200 posts are made on Nairaland each day, a quarter of them pointless, another quarter made by spammers who will like to forcefully sell some business idea to you and hence the need to skim through quickly and look for ones that are worth responding to.

Also i haven't actually seen where the poster mentioned the girl's exact location beyond saying Abeokuta. There are probably many thousands of vulnerable children walking the streets of Abeokuta, i doubt perverts, pedophiles and heaven forbid - child ritualists will be looking for this particular one simply because her picture is on the internet....

In the Nigeria of these days, your pictures don't have to be on the internet to be profiled by those scumbags.....i don't see how putting her pictures here would increase the risk she's already have to live with for ten years of her life.


Sorry about the insult, i was feeling cranky when i typed that. It has now been edited.

Good one @Lastpage!...every line of it, golden!...but erhm, four strokes for children between 10 and 14?....it wouldn't have worked for me as a kid!

Dont complicate their life with your human right/Police angle.
What the father needs is someone to explain "balanced parenting" to him.

Same thing i thought!

I wonder if people truly think the boy will be happy if the Police cautioned his father for beating him.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Passionate or not, you have no right to place that little girl's safety at risk. As long as her picture is made available for all to see, the chances of the wrong sort of people getting to her are greatly increased, and she remains exposed to danger.

What you've done so far is commendable. You've created an awareness of the child's plight - a step in the right direction. Don't undo your good deeds.[/quote]Please i beg of you, kindly spare some of us your high handed rhetoric and unnecessary wolf crying! The girl's safety is now at risk because someone placed her picture on the internet and appealed for help? The same unloved, unwanted child that was attempting to cross the highway all by herself?

How do you suppose the Poster managed to create the little awareness that she had? You really suppose anyone will give a flying fccuk if she couldn't back her claims with pictures?


@OP

I commend your true selfless act and courage, after all we are all bound by a common human heritage. I fear the girl's situation may be improved by placing her in a special needs home where trained people could very well help her to live the best life she could. The challenge of course is for us as a group to look out for which homes will be happy to take her into care. Of course, achieving this may have to come with some promise of regular donations to the home of gifts and monetary aids.

Whatever you do, please and please, DONT give her parents or even the grandma money to take care of her. The parents are completely irresponsible swines who deserve to be shot through their reproductive organs, the grandma on the other hand will probably just give the money to the girl's father anyway and if she doesn't i don't see how she may be able to put the money into good use to secure the girl's future ---Grandma isn't going to live forever, what happens when she's gone?

Tgirl4real: Ehn ehn! Igbana nkan? I could identify with your post earlier but now - I'm boiling. What gives him the right to take out his frustrations on the poor 8 year old? 8 years for crying out loud. That is child abuse on the higest level. How can you keep kids awake till 11pm all in the name of doing assignments and you expect them to perform wonders at school. The only reason the older child is doing better is cos he is older, simple. Their comprehension level isn't the same.

You keep excusing his attitude, blaming it on the fact that he has so many things on his hands. You even went ahead to call a mentally disabled mother irresponsible. Isn't that an unkind thing to say? Have you wondered why we have so many hurting, disjointed, brutes and animalistic fathers out there? So many are a product of broken homes, child abuse and poor upbringing.

You are right that the man isn't evil. NontheleSs, he needs help. Hence, the introduction of the Office of the public defender. You could sound this way cause you've been a victim yourself. I hope you don't treat your kids this way.

The man is either an illetrate or poorly educated.

I'd tell you what gives him the right to take out his frustrations on the 8 year old ---> The fact that the 8 year old kept failing!

I'm not yet a parent but i understand that being a parent isn't a walk in the park. If someone dedicates their life to give you the best, then you may expect them to be rightly frustrated if you keep coming out bottoms among your peers. I quite agree that this may dude have overstepped the thin lines between child training and abuse, and even needs a lot of help and counselling.....but can his frustrations be justified? ---> Hell Yes!

There are thousands of Children selling Gala and soft drinks on the street of Lagos while their parents bought Aso Ebi. Many of these kids end up as societal misfits and others destitutes --->that is child abuse to me--->> a man staying late into the night and helping his Kids with their homework despite the fact that he'd still have to wake up early the following morning to prepare them for school deserves some kudos! only very few men are capable of this!

I called their mum irresponsible before i learnt of her mental state --- a statement that i now wish to recall ---

And no, contrary to your thinking, i don't consider myself being a victim of abuse at all. Even though i got the long end of the stick each time I misbehaved, i still got showered with all the love, attention and perks most people can only ever dream of. Now I have some gravel in my guts and i know that life is itself is a tough nut; you don't crack it unless you've got a big mallet!


Your assertion that the older kid does better because he's older is just BOLLOCKS!!!!

I remember my younger sisters will normally top their peers while i stayed at the bottom --- the floggings corrected all this for me and i eventually realized that the only reason i wasn't doing very well was simply because i was too playful. My comprehensive ability was infact very sharp, but i just loved playing football and rarely ever attend classes.

Could it be that the kid is full of potentials but just too playful? Could it be that the older kid understands that their dad is doing his best and feels he's obligated to reward him by putting some extra efforts to his studies? Kids if left alone will drive anyone nuts!

The beatings may be excessive and should be toned down a bit ...but is the father necessarily the animalistic brute as is being portrayed in this thread? I don't think so!

And since when has it become a crime for a man to be illiterate or poorly educated?

The man has a very tight routine daily: goes for jogging early in the morning, afterwards go to his office, drive through traffic from alaba to festac then comes home very tired and still takes time to ensure he does his school assignment or the home assignment he have him, if he doesn't get the sums right he makes sure they solve together at times till about 10-11. And note, the father is always sad whenever the boy doesn't get things right

And there are still people that believe this man must be evil? smh!

I will contact office of the Public Defender in Lagos State for more guide about thi and report back here.

Feel free to contact the office of the Public Defender in Lagos, but i'd advise you NOT to take decisions that might cause rifts within a family that's already having several problems of their own. Nairalanders as usual will always give both silly and useful advise at the comfort of their computers directed only by their emotions and nothing else.....but most of them don't have a mentally unstable wife, an extremely busy routine or two kids to care for

Icon4s: Nothing outrageous abt d average of N37M per annum( less than $20,000/month) which am sure includes other allowances. These ar top senior & management staff. Most oil workers in d US earn abt $30,000 to $60,000/month as salaries excluding certain allowances. Nigerian oil workers ar abt d least paid world-wide.

Most oil workers? Like really, Most? why do people enjoy spewing so much untruths simply because we can't reach out and slap them silly through their computers?

^^ True that the father need to control his frustrations and anger, but most people here cursing the dude haven't actually considered whether or not the beatings was out of genuine concern for the kids future!!

While growing up, I know a few peeps whose parents don't give a flying shyt about them, most of them ended up as drop outs who continuously lied to their parents that they were attending school just to squeeze some extra cash from them!

Any man who can take as much interest in his kids to the extent of sitting down with them with their homework cannot in my own books be said to be evil...that language is dirty, ugly and too strong to use for someone whose intentions are borne of our genuine concern and love, if he wasn't interested in the kid's warefare, he may have pushed him on to his irresponsible mum (that's how i see the mum)

For reference sakes....are there people on this thread who grew up in Naija and whose parents have never flogged them shitless for coming home with a poor performance? I got some of those floggings too...i got those floggings each time i stayed out of school to play football with my friends and I got flogged each time i came home with a very poor performance.....Does that actually mean those acts were inhumane? well at least now, i don't think so, and i thank God for having parents who may have spared me from ending up in Chinese jail!

People should really cut this dude some slack! The best approach, if it appears that the beatings are excessive, should be to have a meeting with the dad and let him see reason why a more gentle approach will help the boy more!

The should first look up the meaning of the word "FATHER" it does not include battering your kids. You should call the cops because even in Nigeria it is against the law. By keeping silent of this gross child abuse, am sorry to say you are also part of it. The Man is EVIL for spitting a somebody created by God

The man is evil, really? He looks after the welfare of his kids without their mum, and note that their mum is ALIVE!!!

For once, cut this dude some slack!!..put yourself in his shoes!

He wakes up early to ensure that his kids are well prepared for school, attends to their immediate needs (which includes having to constantly ensure that they have breakfast and provision is made for lunch)...he probably drops them off before going to his own office and after a long crazy day at work, he drives back to their school to pick them up!!!....and out of all this, he STILL spends time to work on their assignments and ensure that they are right on their feet as far as academics is concerned......All this does not include days he may have to spend taking them to the hospital and ensuring that they stay healthy and fit....


Point out to me, how many Nigerian fathers actually do all of this....Anyone will likely be frustrated if after going through all this, your kids still ends up bringing home a poor result. I see the overreaction on this thread which is rightly justified....anyone who's not a single father taking care of two kids will likely say the same!!

The dude may not have handled his kids poor performance very well...but does that really make him evil?....does he become less evil if he doesn't show any interest in his kids academic performance and left him on his own (and peharps risk him ending up in a Chinese jail later on in life)??

PrinceDudu: @op at this stage all suggestion seems to be useless what I think u should do is get us the mans phone number or house add so that we can bombard him with calls and letters. Please. I think every NLders will agree to this.

and how is this the smartest thing to do at this point?

@ OP

can i suggest you write to the head of the school and suggest to them that they should hold a meeting with this boy's father? during the meeting you and a few colleagues could explain why the child's performance in class is not likely to improve due to the stress and constant beatings from his father...if possible you could also suggest that the dude should leave you -his teachers- to dealing with his assignments and all the extra stuff at no extra cost to him.

It may be that the guy is not as terrible as conveyed through the post. It's hard to think any father who will do anything to be with his kids after a split up from their mum and even spends his time to help them with their homeworks could actually be described as terrible. It may be that he actually wants the very best for his kids although he may have gone about it the wrong way, many thanks to the society that has taught him to believe this is the 'right' way to train up a child....when the push comes to shove, such fathers are usually the ones to take the first bullet for their kids.


You should also understand that it may be difficult bringing up two kids....anyone in his shoes will likely go crazy if one of the kids you are spending time and valuable resources on keep showing up on your doorsteps with a monumental failure!

I believe you are likely to see some positive results if and when you sit down with the dad and suggest an approach that may eventually improve the kid's performance.

I have seen better parenting among sheep than among Nigerian parents.

LOL @ all those saying "Call the Cops", you must think this is London or New York....Duh!! call the cops that probably beat their own kids mercilessly too? and say what exactly?