But please note this negro insisted that she was in South Africa over Easter
Applaner: Are u aware DAT Sinach has just finished her worship program at Christ Embassy church in South Africa dis easter? on de 3rd and de 6th of April .
Defending the truth with lies is not exactly wisdom
Gombs: Lalasticlala and seun. Please do the needful. Do not let NL be known for peddling lies and old wives tales.
And, here is proof for the Uganda ministration. The way some bloggers are piling curses on themselves just because they want to drive traffic eh!?
My broda, This article claims she was in Uganda on Friday and not South Africa just as her FB
But what happened last Friday evening at Miracle Centre cathedral in Lubaga was at a whole different level. This was during Nigeria's award-winning singer Sinach's praise concert.
Applaner: Are u aware DAT Sinach has just finished her worship program at Christ Embassy church in South Africa dis easter? on de 3rd and de 6th of April .
Winsomex, Thank you for highlighting the semantics aspect of cults sometimes they also engage in EQUIVOCATION where words are given different meanings in a sentence or conversation; Example Revelation 19:10 (KJV) And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Revelation 14:12 (KJV) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus
To a regular believer reading SPIRIT OF PROPHECY and COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, these would probably register as the teachings of Christ and summary of the commandments being loving God and man. But not so with an SDA. SPIRIT OF PROPHECY means writings of Ellen Gould White while COMMANDMENTS mean the Ten Commandments especially the fourth commandment(Sabbath) forget for now the fact that the two greatest commandments are not even part of the Ten
Is WOF cultic? Please make a point of examining the sources shared by Winsomex. Appendix B titled the Word Faith Movement paragraph 4.
The reason I asked about marriages is because that is the hallmark of cults; exclusivism. They are the only custodians of truth and outside is just ignorance and deception.
I don't know of ANY pentecostal church that frowns upon members marrying other pentecostals and it came as a surprise that CEC actively discourages that bro.
I find it decidedly convenient that you keep on throwing examples of Catholicism and JW,obvious sectarian organizations. Catholics derives their doctrine/authority from Scriptures AND Tradition;JW from their own translation of scriptures AND Watchtower Society. These two are clearly incompatible with Pentecostalism. But what about RCCG?
Once again, what's the risk of Gombs marrying an RCCG girl? By actively encouraging 'inbreeding' while being indifferent to inter-sects marriages, they are clearly DISCOURAGING such
A more relevant question is, what's so WRONG with a fine RCCG damsel?
Abuamam, Pray tell me, What part of 'three days and three nights' EQUALS 'three days' don't you understand?
Furthermore we must also note that the figure of speech, as used in Hebrew, always had the same number of days and nights. Moses fasted forty days and forty nights (Exodus 24.18). Jonah was in the whale three days and three nights (Jonah 1.17). Job's friends sat with him seven days and seven nights (Job 2.13). We can see that no Jew would have spoken of "seven days and six nights" or "three days and two nights", even if this was the period he was describing. The colloquialism always spoke of an equal number of days and nights and, if a Jew wished to speak of a period of three days which covered only two nights, he would have to speak of three days and three nights. A fine example of this is found in the Book of Esther where the queen said that no one was to eat or drink for three days, night or day (Esther 4.16), but on the third day, when only two nights had passed, she went into the king's chamber and the fast was ended.
So we see quite plainly that "three days and three nights", in Jewish terminology, did not necessarily imply a full period of three actual days and three actual nights but was simply a colloquialism used to cover any part of the first and third days.
Abuamam: Interesting article. I have always wondered how the discrepancy is explained. Still does not add up though, even with counting the few hours on Friday evening and early Sunday morning as full days.
Abuamam: The verse states that the Injeel was sent to Isa (as). It does not state that the extant bible at that time was the original. Stop making me repeat myself. Tedious.
Gombs, First tithing is not exclusive to evangelicals. Even Catholicism teaches it http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14741b.htm SDAs too So for Walter Martin to have believed and taught it and yet label WOF as cultic means the distinction between tithing and WOF was clear to him.
There is something you mentioned up there to the effect that marriages within membership are strongly encouraged to 'prevent clash of doctrines' and you gave example of a Catholic and a CEC lady marrying. Please tell me whether there are doctrines peculiar to CEC and not other evangelical churches like say RCCG, and if marriages between members of CEC and other evangelical churches are frowned upon.
Fortunate017: According to matthew 12:40; For as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish, so the son of man will be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of heart.
I didn't see it happening exactly this way when I read the four gospels of christ in the bible, which are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Now, I am confused. Here are the points i got.
JESUS DIED AT THE NINTH HOUR. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John recorded this. Matthew 27:45-50. Mark 15:34-37. Luke 23:44-46.
THE DAY AFTER THE CRUCIFICATION AND DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST WAS SABBATH. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John recorded this. Matthew 27:62. Mark 15:42. Luke 23:54. John 19:31.
THE DAY MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS, MARY MAGDALENE AND OTHER WOMEN WENT TO THE TOMB AND FOUND THAT IT WAS EMPTY WAS AFTER SABBATH AND IT WAS THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John recorded this also. Matthew 28:1. Mark 16:1-2. Luke 24:1. John 20:1. The sabbath day could be Saturday or Sunday, depending on how you see it. But I take it to be Saturday hence the first day of the week is Sunday. Mark 16:9 says "When Jesus rose up EARLY on the first day of the week he appeared first to mary magdalene... Matthew 28:1; After the sabbath at DAWN on the first day of the week, mary magdalene... John 20:1; EARLY on the first day of the week, while it was still DARK... These mean that Jesus resurrected very early on Sunday morning, hence he did not stay up to two days but stayed two nights in the tomb.
Some people would say that he died on Thursday, Friday which is the next day cannot be called Sabbath. If we argued that some books, chapters and verses in the bible say " ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD" For example, Luke 24:6-7. To me, "On the third day" and "Three days and three nights" are two different statements. I don't know what they mean to you.
Please guys let's discuss this. I would really appreciate if i could imbibe from your knowledge. Thanks in advance.
Gombs,PaulGrundy, How comes all believers in this soul-sleep aberration of the Truth have given this thread a wide berth?
Before you believe in something, should you not weight the logical conclusion of your beliefs?
CAPTIVATOR,CANTICLES and other witnesses of Jah are busy pushing Awake!,Watchtower and other paraphernalia from their sect so hard yet they are staring at total cessation from existence only to have YHWH recreate theirlookalikesat resurrection and reward them with their labor of love!
The Quran is guilty of the same charges you level against scriptures Here, "As we sent down (punishment) on the separatists who dismember the Qur'an." S. 15:90-91 Go ask your scholars what this means
Did you know that major disagreements precipitated a TOTAL revision of Quran,and it's 'original' form or content is IMPOSSIBLE to ascertain?
Abuamam: The originals are long gone. That your scriptures have little authenticity is not just my opinion. It is the opinion of Bible scholars and historians. However, some content is still truthfully transmitted; though not that much. The Qur'an was revealed therefore, to correct the misconceptions caused by the circulating fakes.
God sent the original Taurah and Injeel to the people of Israel specifically as temporary law. It was intended from the beginning to be superseded by a Universal faith to come later; Islam, which was to be faithfully preserved; since no new faith would supersede it until the Day of Judgement. God did not see fit to preserve that which was made to pass away later. In the case of the Injeel, it is doubtful that Isa (as) even wrote any scripture down. He merely taught verbally, making it easier to falsify his message after his parting. The message of Islam however, was carefully preserved by the practice of mass memorisation of the Qur'an... to the letter; as well as the development of a comprehensive system of authentication and verification of every word/ action performed by the prophet (saw) during his lifetime, with chains of narrators up to the present day.
Negro please! Everything was corrupted? Please give us the originals And while at it tell us if man could corrupt what Allah gave to Moses whether man has corrupted what he gave Mo'
Cc Ifeann
Abuamam: @OP. Being deliberately uncomprehending as usual, I see.
The Qur'an, in many verses in the Qur'an, refers to the 'Injeel' as the scripture given or revealed to Isa (as); or Jesus if you like. Reference... AlImran :48 AlMa'idah :46 AlMa'idah :110 AlHadeed :27 None of those books you hold today are those given to Isa (as). They are 4th century sectarian compilations of different sources which were written majorly by anonymous authors and attributed to disciples to mimic authenticity. Some meagre extracts of the sayings of Isa (as) are doubtless contained therein; but the falsehoods are too many to filter out. The present OT falls under the same general rule; although slightly older. It may also contain parts of those scriptures given to Musa (as), but which portions are original and which ones are the imaginations of the 'lying pens of scribes making the law a falsehood' (Jeremiah 8:8 ); is impossible to sift out today. So in clearer terms, the present day gospel is NOT the original Injeel revealed to Isa (as), nor is the present day OT (Jewish,Catholic or Protestant), the Torah in its original form. When you understand that, you will realize that the contradictions are not between the Qur'an and the Injeel; both revealed by Allah. They are contradictions between the Qur'an revealed by Allah and the different Bible versions written by mostly anonymous people.
He routinely edits videos AFTER facts to suit them. There was Youtube in 2010 get me the ORIGINAL video and see what garbage has been sanitized to give the charlatan an appearance of a prophet
HCpaul: I watched the video for a very long time. It's more than a truth. But anyway, your unbelieve does not make God's word of non-effect.
Even if Caucasian mean frogs, Negro will remain a slave to him until he starts to think and not hallucinate.
MrPresident1: [b]Do you know the meaning of Caucasian? It means cave dweller. You are the cave dwelling neanderthal you pathetic scrawny scroungy pretence of a human being.
Jeremiah 49:16-17 16 Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the LORD. 17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.
As to Negro slaving for you, find it here;
Isaiah 42:24 24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers? did not the LORD, he against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law.
And finally, this is the future of the robbers and thieves;
Psalm 66:24 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.[/b]
Negro, Get the ORIGINAL message not this edited garbage
Makweembo: Over five years ago in 2010, Prophet T.B. Joshua revealed that a new political party would rise to challenge the ruling party within Nigeria. After the formation of the APC, a merger of several political parties within Nigeria, he further prophesied in January 2013 that this new party would bring the existing government ‘to its knees’, adding that disunity would be the major bane of the ruling party, the PDP.
After the March 28th presidential elections, General Muhammadu Buhari representing APC won a historic victory against incumbent President Goodluck Jonathan of the ruling party PDP.
The history of Israel is not Negroid nor is its future. Chart your own course o black neanderthal! Add value to this life or continue slaving for me. What value has Negro added to this world in the last 100 years?
MrPresident1: The dead will rise again. Dry bones will resurrect. Ezekiel 37.
Run your mouth all you can, like one debilitated by incurable oral diarrhea, there is nothing you or anyone can do about it.
Your future is not locked in some esoteric Negro history; it is in WESTERN education and discipline. Else Nairaland would be conducted in smoke signals
gatiano: What do you know about singapore or china that you would compare yourself to them? how did they come to be as a people? you don't know yourself, you are clamoring to know others. what a shame.
have you ever seen a tree without a root? i know for a fact that it is not in your African village. you are a copycat. always loving to imitate. They brought christianity, you took it, your life fell. they brought fake Islam called mohammedian religion, you took it, you failed they brought judiasm, religion of one of the sons of jacob, what then did Jacob, Issac, Abraham looked up to? anyways, you took the fake religion- you failed. They brought now atheism, you took it all the same expecting miracles, you are already failing in that already before you begin. Is African tradition right as it is? No! it had also been serious contaminated.
There is no future without the history. outside that, it is all just a joke.
And the blueprint and not just the blueprint, the structures of the new world has been made already. i will be lieing if i say that i have seen it, nobody has and nobody would until the rubbish world that you so love vanishes away. It had already began. the pulsing of the destruction is because of the black people. "get out of her, so that be not be a partaker of her death" what does this mean? it is just not getting out of there physically, but more importantly get out of slave mentality and colonized mentality.
Utter rubbish. How much history did Singapore or China study to turn around? Negro won't get far by rewriting the past. They may as well hallucinate bout a glorious future and then wait for it to befall them.
gatiano: Yes and true, every civilization needs education to grow and develop. But that is not just the issue, The big question is WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION? The base of education must start from history, that is a must. What is your history? who taught you your history? I have an uncle who majored in history, his Ph;d was about the latin-american history, what for uncle? and that history started with the whites entering those continent, They tried teaching him about a little bit of the mexican etc. After 25 years of all his studies, he became seriously frustrated. He couldn't find himself in any of the pictures or studies, there was nothing about him, about his forefathers, all he knew was how primitive his forefathers were(which is the biggest lie of the era), how we were colonized and enslaved almost by every race on earth, how we were ripped apart into pieces. He did not know where to start from, Thus that made a lot of youth and young people despise the course "history". And we already know that civilization starts not from constructions or surveying of lands, It starts from history. My uncle only had 1 month of the true African history, and his life changed over night. What he did was just to listen to his Elders who knew the true as it was passed to them from generations to generations. Love yourself and others like yourself first and foremost, not material love, but spiritual and eternal love. it turns out that yoruba is not a tribe, Igbo too is not a tribe, they are both different clans of the same tribe, yet somewhere along the line, we were made to believe that we are different because we speak different language. The African man knows with scientific datas the reasons why there are different languages, and no matter how we try to speak the same language, with time that same language will split up into two different kinds of language. Does the whiteman know this? The whiteman does not know where comets are coming from, Our elders in our various villiages knows and can be proven scientifically, but the whiteman has trickingly labelled it "pseudoscience", and we believed just because a white skin, blue eyed man said so.
They systematically made bishop Ajayi Crowther labelled devil or satan as "Esu", when in reality satan is different from devil. satan means osika and devil means "ika". When our adorable children, pretty wonderful black children do something not of wanting to us, We call them "IKA" unknowing to us- This is the reason why it is so important to study our languages first and foremost, it is required in building of a civilization, no matter how you try, we can never build a society with another man's language. Yet, it is unbelievable, we tried building this small urban with what is entirely not ours.
The rappers, at one time never saw themselves in the european educational system, because what that education does to them, is the continuation of improved enslavement. Rapping is an act of the blackman anywhere in the world. They are called griots. They can use it to input awareness into the minds of their people so much so that it affects every black young youth on the planet, the non-blacks want to just immitate it because to them it looks cool. To the black sharp minds, they know what it is all about. Yes, this people are divided into two groups. The conscious rappers (mos-def. nas, q-tip, jkwon, talib kwali, jayz to some extent, common, rakim, krs-one) and there are the material ones (you/we know them). Drums is a part of our culture, we made it. Do not tell me the drum machines and instruments used to make wonderful musics were made by people other than us, that will be very wrong. The prototypes of everything made in this world was by a black person (just a slave had no rights to patent his/her inventions and besides their names is the master's names).
To understand the drug issue in the black society of the world, not just drugs, but frauds etc committed by the black people, you will have to understand the sources and the reasons. Yes they are wrong and they will have to answer for their crimes, But before GOD, until and except you know what you are really doing before the evil is done. Most of us are manipulated into doing evil without even knowing. however, we must all take responsibilities for our deeds.
the word "negro" does not mean black person, the words you pronounce to your fellow brothers and sisters matters a lot, more like the deception of calling devil the esu instead of ika in yoruba. Negro or nigger means a dead person, zombie, incapable, inanimate.
Education yes! but what kind? We must remember who we are, this we cause a total change that we need in us individually.
We are all negroes,all brothers and just about everyone on the continent barring GEJ want the best for Nigeria
Edygrin: Kenya's president Uhuru Kenyatta today congratulated the president elect Gen Buhari and also commended Goodluck Jonathan for conceding defeat thanking him for the efforts he put to promote fruitful engagements between Kenya and Nigeria during his tenure. He used his official twitter handle (@UKenyatta). See tweets below...
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakilome DID NOT Ban Singer , Sinach From Singing In His Church by vooks: 5:48am On Apr 09, 2015
