MrIyke222: Fellow christians nd believers in d house, pls kindly help with your understanding in this issue dat has been a concern btween some pentecostals nd d orthodox. The issue of ‘ Women not covering dia hair in church and wearing of trousers in or outside church?’
With biblical back-ups, wot are ur views in dis area of our christian life nd blieve? I need to help fellow brothers nd sisters in my area clear up some arguement as wel as better understanding in dis area. Thanx 4 ur contribution in advance.
Do Muslim wives punish their hubbies for 'ill-conduct' as well?
Cc Ifeann
Ahmadjr: ... Take a look at Ill conduct. Now with regards to ur story, is seeking for knowledge (d wife's alledged offence according to d monstrous husband) an ill conduct? I believe u're aware that d Qura'n commands muslims to seek knowledge (which is what d wife was doing), so looking at this u see that d husband cared less about what Islam has to say and only committed that act out of his selfish reasons. So I don't see hw this verse supports his action. So pls stop trying to pin his action on Religion! ... And in her commments I don't see where she blamed her husband's act on Islam....all I see is you doing just that.
Empiree: Yea, exactly the way you dont understand such verses in the Quran. You only take pleasure from quoting them for ONE REASON (to oscillate ignorant folks from Islam). But if Muslims quote violent verses from your OT & NT, you find excuses. Call your brain to order.
Yes, my point exactly! "explanation" but those guys runing behind your skirt dont think. They do follow follow.....
Now get this in you head. We dont need to be educated on your Bible. Its all depends on approach. Your approach to Islam warrant 100% identical backlash until you start using your brain.
Muslims dont think God ordered ancient people to just kill for no reason. We perfectly understood. But if fanatic Christians like you and your cohorts think they can frustrate Islamic texts, then we will do the same to yours. Simple as ABC...Get that?
I give you example, in this video, a christian caller called a muslim preacher. He didnt call to have educative dialogue. He called to force his religion on Muslim preacher to accept some stup*d doctrines. He would not even let the preacher speak. He was just talking nonstop. Indeed he's a true definition of madness. This is second caller, a young man.
First caller appears to be older, he didn't call to have nice dialogue either. Instead he threatened Muslim preacher and accused him of using "juju" to convert Christians.
Third caller, a woman and a christian, @ 25:00 said right away to Muslim preacher, "sir, don't bother yourself, we know Islam is the only way". This woman made preacher's day smoother after those l*natics Christians. Then she explained her grievances towards Islam with perfect misunderstanding and brainwashing by christian extremists like you. She eventually agreed to meet Muslim preacher and take shahada (declaration of faith). Now listen to this. She (caller) raised political question and Muslim preacher asked her if Bible orders christian to kill?. The woman said "YES". But Muslim preacher said no. He said "violence" in the bible are historically connected....exactly like you tried to make people believe. It's the same with those verses in the Quran. So you think you know better than muslims ifeann?. You are hypocrite.
Fourth caller wasted no time. She took shahadah right away and brought her family to Islam. Now, if you care to watch and listen, here is 40mins clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ib0IF7jnWQ I know you can care less to watch...that's why I typed out briefly. The clip is also for others. See your brothers in violence... so called God-loving people in the clip.
You also ran away and derailed this thread after i exposed Paul, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John about your Bible corruptions, written by UNKNOWN and spurious people.
So far, your only strategy is you quote certain verses from Quran and hadith to "win" your day. Same thing op, truthman2012 just did. Bible writers rendered Christianity "law-free" religion. This is false.
Also you talked about Muhammad (peace be upon him) waged wars. No one or 12 tribes of Jacob in the time Jesus (peace be upon him) mobilized army against him....so it was perfectly okay for Jesus(p) not to wage war. He seemed to have battled only 'war' of "heart and mind". He was not like Moses (peace be upon him). Moses(p) also waged wars because Pharaoh waged wars on him. Muhammad(p) also waged war because he faced unlimited challenges from many tribes who aged wars on him. So he should fold his arms and just watch?. Get your head straight. Typical example of this is your other thread where you accused our prophet Muhammad(s.a.w) for killing "900 Jews" but you failed post the whole story....that the Jewish tribe attacked innocent Muslims men, women and children who were unarmed. You ran off from the thread after I exposed you.
Now, since you love quoting ahadith so much, didn't you ever come across where Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) talks about return of Jesus...that he will return and mobilize Muslim army against Dajjal (the false messiah) and his followers i:e those who rejected him and those who worshiped him like you and others?. You never came across the hadith?. Or you want me to post it here for people to see. Why do you skip that?. Jesus(p) will return in the Last Age and wage WAR.
And don't forget those threads you dodged. You have never defended your faith against Muslims. All you said was "they're ignorant" referring to Muslims. But you wasted no time posting nonsense about Muhammad(p). Your bone of contention is always to paint white black. YOU ARE HYPOCRITE.
Revelation 11:8 (KJV) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified
My Bishop, He says he will preach the Word to you till out of your conviction you dress up. That's infinitesimally better than chauvinistic sanctimonious holier-than-thou negroes who have appointed themselves moral police and imagine they be doing God a favor in the process.
The Chinese are not Christians and I can bet your dig is full of Chinese made gadgets. Who made the cordless mic your MoG uses? What about the Korg keyboard?
mrintellectual: Well, the roadside mechanic, just like Henry Ford is better than a jobless woman whose job is doing PhD which will not contribute as much as the CEO of Innoson Motors- also a former mechanic. Isn't it?
There ar no clear rules here, but basically, if choir members are required to invest so much of their time in practice and meeting such that they may not afford to engage in any gainful employment, then they should be paid.
To a regular church goer, a choir member is somebody who sings for a few minutes during a meeting. But there is more; there is many man hours spent in practicing and meetings which vary from church to church
Thank you for following my advice. Google is your friend. Semantics won't save you
Image123: Calm down and understand what is being said. You should notice the plural i have been consistent with. Civil rights is not limited to the struggle for black emancipation. Civil rights movementS have been before then and continue to be. i'm not limiting what i say to only that however if you have specific questions, ask specifically and I'll answer the best i can. Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals ' freedom from infringement by governments , social organizations, and private individuals, and which ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression. Please note the pluralS and perhaps check these links too. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_and_political_rights
Image123, There is a level of shallowness in your post that I find irritating
Let's discus this; Re: Proper Christian Conduct/behaviour To Slave-Masters
Ample verses on the subject Colossians 3:22 (KJV) Servants [SLAVES], obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Ephesians 6:5 -8 (KJV) Servants [SLAVES], be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; 6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; 7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: 8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
1 Peter 2:18-19 (KJV) Servants [SLAVES], be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. 19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
And now, let's personalize this. Supposing your wife is kidnapped and made a slave. What would be your counsel to her in her new status as a slave?
Image123: Civil right movement[b]s[/b] are not only limited to those that fought for black emancipation or apartheid, it refers to any union or association involved in promoting civil rights and liberty. Do not limit it to just one popular or particular movement.
The highlighted, clearly you are clueless about the movement
Image123: Civil rights movements are about righting perceived wrongs. They are about defending and liberating the weak and the downtrodden from segregation, discrimination and abuse.They are not about changing laws. They do not have to be insurgents. i have clearly said it and even repeated that there is nothing wrong with demanding a change for the better. i have only stated(and aim to show) how christians should or should not go about such demands. Christians are not to revile rulers or engage in insult, calumny, riots and mayhem or violence. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Civil rights movement is about CHANGING the Laws/ordinances and you are saying we should be busy obeying...hallo? Can you show me an instance where believers attempted to change the Law of the land in Biblical times?
Image123: i have not said civil rights movement is not right or unbiblical, you are mixing things up. i said civil DISOBEDIENCE, unrest, reviling, calumny is not right and not the Christian way. Christians don't judge in the context in which you seem to want me to, judgement is not our job. We can teach, exhort, correct, discuss, explain.
No I don't understand because you are bent on not making me understand. Civil rights movement is unbiblical but you don't know whether the participants sinned against God or not because it is not your job to decide? Is it your job to tell us what is Biblical and what is not?
Image123: i already said it and i say it again, they do not need to be violent or revile the government to get things done. Aluta, civil unrests and insurgency are not the biblical way to get things done. Asking me if they're sinners or saints is not my job to determine. Did they do the right thing by protesting the conditions? Yes. Did they go about it the best way? No. Are they sinners or going to hell? i do not know and it's not my job to decide. Hope you understand better now.
Christianity Etc › Re: Women Not Covering Hair In Church & Wearing Of Trousers. by vooks: 10:16am On Mar 05, 2015
