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I have used BOTH
if you are a berry person and can't live without a physical keyboard, go for a Q10. The problem is over 30% of your screen disappears. Good thing is q10 battery drains slower than a Z10.

Something else, q10 has an FM receiver while q10 has none

Lastly, Q10 looks far much cheaper. Even its logo at the back looks dull. Z10 on the other hand can be mistaken for a serious phone like iPhone 5

Silly negro

henribj:
haba nah, its not difficult
even me sef can unlock this one
just break the screen of the 5s, remove the broken pieces
and voila the unlock screen disappears
you can thank me later

Negro, you got jokes

pure2012soul:
Send it over. My boy will do a good job on it with his hammer and screw driver.

Tell Naijaman to unlock my 5S

pure2012soul:
As long as it involves programming, Naija would find a way of overcoming it

Quite cheap

GEJ will win, a sad fact

Thugs hiding behind student ID

Winsomex,
We had Reformation and then we had the Second Awakening birthing Mormons,Christian Science, Adventists among others in the 19th century. This is the root of WOF, something pointed out in the WOF thread.

Something I have read about Walter Martin's book is he may have been misled. Take Seventh Day Adventism. He uses their book, Questions on Doctrine to defend them against cultism charges. But this book is no longer accepted as an authority on SDA doctrines. The point am making is, cults usually hide their some of their embarrassing doctrines. Jeff claims he caught the virus due to non-payment of Firstfruits. You may never get such teaching on any cult paraphernalia but it is there; he did not invent this teaching. Mormons will not tell the negro to his face that he is a product of bad sex between deity and its harem. Coming 'home', I would not be surprised to find that medical tests are abhorred especially in pursuing miracles and regarded as sign of waning faith. Again, you won't find that in a book. That's cults for you, two-faced.

Next, throw in CONTROL of information accessed by members. I have seen very feeble attempts here to justify why ONLY Oyaks literature should be read. There just is no truth outside the MoG

WinsomeX:
You wouldn't wait too long for it. It will be done.

A little foretaste:

* Word of Faith is false doctrine.
* Hagin, Copeland, Oyakhilome, etc, are false prophets.
* Doctrine of health and wealth are doctrines of demons.
* Churches like Christ Embassy that practice the core truths of WoF are cults.
* Mormons, like Wofers, believe they are gods.
* One core practice of Mormons, like Wofers, is tithing.
* Divine healing, positive confession, and visions are core practices of Christian Scientists, Wofers.
*Wofers, like Jehovah Witnesses, have a low view of Jesus Christ.
etc.

I must thank vooks again for that book. Excellent work. Wonderful confirmation of the thread by trustman, drummaboy and BabaGnoni on Word of Faith.

Download Kingdom of cults: www.eindtijdinbeeld.nl/EiB-Bibliotheek/Boeken/KingdomOfTheCultsWalterMartin.pdf

So, all this Joagbaje shenanigans are confirmation of the false spirit their belief consist of. The tragedy is that most of it has pervaded Christendom today.

Boko Haram are imploding, their strategies are short term, pissing everyone off earns them more and more enemies

My broda,
There a few threads I have started on grand deception in the Church that have left me slightly more than skeptical

Here;
https://www.nairaland.com/1979026/watch-prayer-predator-weep
https://www.nairaland.com/2186370/tb-joshuas-epic-fail-mh370
https://www.nairaland.com/2198085/tb-joshuas-latest-false-prophecy

This is not to mean that I don't believe in miracles but just that, trusting too much is naivety. Discernment is a technical phrase for skepticism
How do you boldy invite people to investigate your claims and when called out,you claim you was a victim of deception?

paulGrundy:
Honestly, I don't know why I said that. Maybe am so keen on believing the best of Joagbaje, or am finding it hard to swallow the reality of what happened.

PaulGrundy,
Indulge me.
You honestly entertained the idea that;
1. a man who has just been fully healed of HIV would be induced/'coerced' into LYING that he was never healed? Or
2. A man who shamelessly lied that he was healed of HIV would be induced/'coerced' into LYING that he had been coerced into faking the testimony by Joagbaje or his accomplices?

Here are incontrovertible facts;
1. Jeff was HIV+ before the purported healing
2. Jeff remained HIV+ after the 'healing'
3. Jeff claimed to have been healed
4. Joagbaje claimed to have healed Jeff
5. Joagbaje dared SirJohn to investigate this 'healing'
6. SirJohn disproved claims #3 & #4

paulGrundy:
Amen, somehow my instincts also had that theory of yours on coercion earlier in this thread, but I can't just jump into conclusions because I don't have proof. Let's just see how things go.

sonOfLucifer:
Where there is no cohesion, lack of purpose follows. Where there is no purpose, there can be no continuity. Where there is no continuity, there can be no growth. In such societies, truth has no value and conscience can be easily bought.
Most of what we see are determined by that which we do not see. How can one reach truth when no human possesses this truth? We all view the world from a different lens, therefore for truth to prevail, we must be willing to entertain opposing ideas and shed ourselves of all sentiments.

We could walk into a market and I give you a bag of onions and ask you to tell me how much it weighs. You say it feels like 2kg, I say it feels like 2.5kg. The weight of the bag of onions remains constant. Our arguments could change but we must strive to find a common measure by which we can agree on the weight of the bag of onions.

This is where the African sadly misses it. Blaming religion or supersition for African's lack of awareness would be similar to blaming the metric system in this scenario.
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We are not blaming superstition for lack of awareness but rather ignorance for superstition

You forgot dick size

I rank that up there next to melanin. Negro has MORE melanin than white man

Of course. Class exists in every human organization, even among the Gods

Negro still fares badly in occultism I can bet

It is you Joagbaje who love the praise of men, you dared him to investigate one of your 'feats' and you staked 500K. We salute SirJohn for going out of NL,burning his own cash and time to investigate one of your claims

Either you are naive, deluded or both.

Either Jeff was healed or he was not
Why would a healed negro take you in circles over such a spectacular miracle? It's like the disciples claiming that Jesus is resurrected but they won't allow nobody near his tomb

Whether Jeff claimed to have been healed is not in question here, it is your claim to have healed him that was examined and found bogus

Joagbaje:
Hmmm, this thread again.....? Seem naira land is boring so some joagbaje issue is needed around.

@ Gombs Sirjohn is john is just one dishonest guy who love praise of men. My response to this thread explains my true position.

If Jeff claimed he was healed why not let him prove it . Rather john was going behind to polute jeff mind against cooperating with me in the investigation. What's john afraid of.
I will mail my conversation with him to you.

While I agree that negroes lack cohesion, even inside a single tribe, I fail to see how this contributes to this madness.
Witchcraft is the ONLY thing Negro beats whiteman in.

By the way, is there racism in the Occult world?

sonOfLucifer:
Throughout history, every tribe and people on earth have had their fair share of dealings with witchcraft and superstition. Europe was once a hub of fairy tales and witch burnings. In fact, those superstions are still largely celebrated today in the guise of festivals and holidays.

The more appropriate question to ask would be why the negro has found it difficult to adapt his beliefs to current and modern trends. It isn't any secret that the brand of Christianity practiced in Nigeria is one that has mixed parts of our local traditions with that of those foreigners, producing such disastrous results that almost all NIgerian Christians seriously believe that there is scientific evidence that traces them to Adam and Eve.

I do not believe that Negros as a race have the least IQ. I believe that as a race, they have less cohesion and unity, and a massive failure of leadership has only aggravated this.

Hi buddy. Been long, got busy?

sonOfLucifer:
HI Vooks..

Evolution is as religious as Islam they persecute non-believers, mock them just like you are doing. It's a cult masquerading as. Science

davien:
Really,and yet you're a creationist nut?

If I made a dime for every time I called out shallow pseudo-Skeptics, I'd be a billionaire

davien:
I don't debate pseudoscience,I expose it.

We all want good news but we must never forget that in war, truth is the first casualty

I lost count of the many times America was caught lying in EYEraq

appini:
You don't normally verify when the bokos carryout their killings.

I hope you're not sad about all this good news from the northeast.

When you arrange your thoughts in a sensible fashion, engage me in a debate

davien:
It's funny how you can point at the twig in someone's eye, but refuse to see the log in yours...
If you believe adam and eve rode alongside dinosaurs, then you're no different than this charlatan.

Be wary of government propaganda. We all want BH decimated but at least get independent verification before celebrating

US fell out with Al Jazeera over Iraq war coverage. Go figure

where are his defenders?

I salute SirJohn
Listen to this convoluted thinking;
SirJohn BRIBED the miracle fraudster to lie against Joagbaje.
Negroes flapping gum here 24/7 about miracles and the best they can furnish is a fraud which when called out they flat out deny? What Jesus be they serving?

SirJohn:
I really don't think responding to this balderdash from you is worth my sweat.
I have written stuff about Chris Oyakhilome, who then is Mike? I told him to 'bring it on' or did he not show that to you too

If you were half as smart as you are trying to make yourself believe, you probably would have noticed the fake video which Joagbaje posted on every thread he found himself; but you didn't, now you want to form James Bond on top what you know nothing of.
I'm waiting for you

Islam too will implode with all this suppression of free throught

kay1one2:
They can take islam along with them!

No sir that's not all. He is not yet done feeding you with garbage

Dyoungstar:
Is that all?

This negro claims to have prophesied over the fall of the Euro and we just had that, or did we?

Facts;
1. The 'prophecy' was issued in Dec 2011
2 it was supposed to be one of the year 2012 Prophecies
3. The 'prophecy' is purported to have just been fulfilled in 2015!


Here is the 'fulfillment'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3fRF17Zy6M


And here is the original 2011 'prophecy' from around 6.10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRtSKgb6fnk

source

Al Qaeda's undoing was their spectacular success with 911. The response was expensive but effective
Success gets into these extremist groups' heads and they do something stupid. BH got bored with attacking Nigerian towns and the army, they have gone 'international'. ISIL's beheading are no longer revolting and they are cannibalizing- attacking Muslims when they run out of kafirs.

Excellent piece
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/10/opinions/bergen-bin-laden-al-qaeda-decline-fall/index.html

Funny negro

WinsomeX:
SirJohn may have forgiven him. Saying "go and lie no more".

What is this, some phony theory you read in the library or you conjured it up?

Tell me what 'resources' abound in Africa in abundance.

Scarcity probably works against innovation. Poor people are ever preoccupied with meeting basic needs and this gobbles up precious time they could have ben using to think.

BTW, would you regard Jews as religious/superstitious?

bushdoc9919:
The reason why Africa is underdeveloped has less to do with superstition and more to do with over-abundance of resources.

South Korea and Japan also have a high number of superstitious people.Then there is Estonia where a large number of people practice their own form of trado religion.....and Estonia is highly developed.And many of these developed European countries got developed in the 19th century...when most poeple went to church (Faraday....who discovered a lot of eelctricity related things...was also religious).

The thing with all these countries is that they have limited resources. As a result....they have to rely on their effective management of what they do have....mostly brains....to survive. By contrast....Africa just sells resources....and chops the money. If resources run out...we move to the next resource and start selling. Every African thinks like that.....which is why in the Niger Delta....there is far more concern about how much oil money comes to them....than how they use their brains/knowhow to solve the problems relying from the explotiation of oil . If they did that...they could earn lots of cash. But they won't.

Regardless of religion....we have to wake up to the fact that we are not as rich as we think we are...and work for our money. Look at Russia. A high part of the population is atheist....and yet...they are overdependent on oil. Because it is too easy to sell oil and share the money rather than focus on using innovation to maximum benefit. Until we Africans stop using our resources to deceive ourselves into thinking we are rich......we will remain poor and backward....whether we all become atheists, Christians, Muslims, or return to the religion of our ancestors.