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Not sure bro, but considering that I have a 10kVA stabilizer attached to it, I'm not supposed to worry about surge.

makawhy201:
Thanks for the feedback, was there any power surge or other misconnection that caused it, just want to know because i categorise this brand as rugged in my own little experience.

Bro, thanks for asking.

The Bluegate has stopped charging. I guess the board is bad. I would like to get another board and keep it as a backup while I move on to a more rugged brand.

makawhy201:
@Vulcan, sorry for experiencing the bad side of going solar, please if i may ask? whats issue you are having with your Bluegate 3.5kva inverter you planning to replace? cos i have been using the 2kva version for the past 6years and still working like new and never gone for repair for once even with constant abuse because I am considering upgrading to 3.5kva or 5kva model for my upgrade.

@mcTrinty

Thanks for your reply.

Any idea of a reliable source for any of these CCs or the Mustpower?

The battery number I finally settle with will be decided by whether the inverter I choose is 24 or 48v. I have 1500W panels.

Thanks

mcTrinity:
"cost effective" means you're not considering the premium brands.

well, oga Niyi has given a good personal review on the Mustpower (which is one of your options), so you can go ahead with it.
And since you're getting 8 batteries of 12v, it means you're going for 48v (4kva, probably)

As for SCC, you can go for Fangpusun Flexmax (outback clone) or fangpusun Blue series (victron clone) or go for Epsolar (iTracer) or Epever (eTracer).

PERSONALLY, I prefer Epsolar/Epever. though some gurus here have given the top score to fangpusun.

for any of the CC, the size will depend on the size of your solar


Nevertheless, whatever you're getting, get from a reputable source.

Cheers

You hit the nail squarely on the head. Placing "the Source" as the focal point.


It's rather sad that most people are so focused on getting one over their customers so they feel no qualms about selling something substandard or ill fitting to one's needs.

Thanks.

mcTrinity:
IS "ROY SOLAR" THAT BAD

For some weeks now, there's been some bad reviews on Roy Solar charge controller....


well, I won't outrightly say it is good or bad. Nevertheless, I have 2 Roy solar I've been using going to 3 years now and no issues whatsoever.

see attached pictures. one is for East facing panels and the other for west facing panels. the CCs always absorbs at 14.4, boost charge at 13.8 and floats at 13.5v. And the two are almost always at synch, in terms of their reading (1st pic)

I have a client that was using Roy solar on 8 batteries with 4 pcs of Mpower 250w panels on a 48v system. Back then, I've seen about 21A on a sunny day. Though after 2 years he upgraded to 16panels with MPPT. for those two years, the ROY served him and his batteries aren't dead. Have 2 more clients like that.

oga Niyi made a vital point in his last reply about "Source"
As long as RE is concerned and as long as this nation is concerned, substandard and rebranded products are everywhere. it boils down on your source.

I knew a man that, after 8 years, changed his Deka 12v/210Ah battery. he still bought Deka and after 5 months he said I should come and help him check his batteries that they are no longer performing well. Two of his 6 batteries (24v system) have deviated.
he's using magnum MS4324.
same load, same inverter, same usage...

I once shared on this forum how I bought original sunshine panels and few months after that I bought another set for upgrade only to discover the new ones were rubbish. same brand, same nameplate, same size... different cable and different connection box

SOURCE!!!

so those that complain about the Roy, I believe, they must have gotten a fake one. I don't know why it didn't serve them.

it's been serving me and just last 3 months, I dumped the mopower 900VA/12v for mopower 1600va/24v. changed to 24v system and the same ROY controllers are serving. just waiting for the batteries to die so I can move to 48v,,, with MPPT of course (Lolz)


so Vulcan,
like someone advised, read up on MPPT and PWM... the gurus here have explicitly and argumentatively explained their differences. it's either you google their differences or you start going back on the pages and actually read their practical differences based on various experiences.

But anytime, anyday MPPT rules...

In summary, I'm not saying you should go for Roy or not go for Roy. just sharing my PERSONAL experience.

cheers

@McTrinity,
Thanks for responding.

I currently have 12X 2V but have never enjoyed it as I never got 6hrs from sundown with just 3 fans, energy saving bulbs and on rare occasions one of my fridges for an hour or two connected to inverter. It appears installer sold me refurbished batteries for the price of new.

I have a 24V/50A Roy Solar and 3.4Kva Bluegate Inverter

Now I am in the process of ordering 8X12V Gaston while I decide which cost effective inverter and charge controller to move to. Nepa is good in my area and 12hrs+ a day is the norm so the aim of inverter is just to avoid having to go back and forth when Power goes on and off in the middle of the night. I also hate the noise of gen. Lol

Thanks

mcTrinity:
what are the intended loads on the inverter system?

how many batteries do you think you can afford?? 2? 4? 6? 8?

Thank you.

I have been using Roy for 2yrs now and as I want to upgrade my system I am searching for reputable but cost effective alternatives to everything except for the panels. Most installers/resellers are not really interested in whether you are satisfied with your system once money changes hands so I want to be more careful this time.

I have googled the CM3024Z. Just As you said it's a generic one. I will look around for it if I decide to stay with PWM

makavele:
And yes, my reason was enclosed in brackets; you didn't bother to read it; where I said it's a very fake one at that . .

which means there are fake PWMs but Roy is the "fakest" I have come across so far.

I used to have one a generic one with CM3024Z imprinted on it. You google that number for pictures of it.

It does a better job than Roy albeit PWM.

Yes. This is true. So what is your point?

Balyz:
While no state can be forced to give it's land for the ranches, the FG has the right to purchase land anywhere it deems fit to do whatsoever it likes. Also the land use act gives the FG the power to appropriate land in some instances for national development

No matter how hard you attempt to paint Buhari a saint and all other opposing political actors as devils, the fact remains that most Nigerians with their heads screwed on right know that the only difference btw the two is the difference btw six and half a dozen!

omenkaLives:
Oga! Read, understand, learn!

Your evil blothers and sisters in the national assembly are the ones responsible!

2billion was budgeted by the "evil" Buhari while your angelic NASS members conspired with their angelic colleagues from across the country, party divides, religion and across tribe, and slashed it down to 500million while they increased their own budget from 120-139billion!

Hold them accountable for once!

Interestingly, you have just proven his point.

Hausa gets 92% of these appointments in a country where all the tribes you mentioned(and others) are represented on the Bench but overlooked for promotion.

BMC, Keep working hard for your allawee. At least Hausa will not dominate us forever. Oppression get expiry date

GavelSlam:
Will you get out of here with your pettiness?

How many Calabar, itsekiri, Urhobo, Plateau, Jukun, Ilaje, Nupe etc names did you extract from the list?

Some of you are just miserable by choice.

Your ignorance of how life works is rather deep.

What's sad is the likes you received which shows that BMC's are becoming more active on Nairaland.

Even in the US, political considerations take preeminence when The President picks Supreme Court judges. No conservative President will ever pick a Liberal Judge or vice versa for reasons which I can't be bothered to explain to you.

Tinubu fought tooth and nail against attempts to remove Salami, the judge who gave APC most of their victories in the south West. Fortunately, he lost.

gberra:
An Idiot is talking about political compensation. Judicial appointments ain't a steak of political compensation.. You can't be more daft.

-truth burn

You made a rather emphatic statement about ROY solar in particular so that was why I asked expecting an explanation.

I know that MPPT is a superior technology to PWM in general, but I also know that not every brand of MPPT is good and not every brand of PWM is bad(After all, even Morningstar produces PWM).

At the end of the day it's based on what the manufacturer decides to put inside the box.

Google is an aggregation of people's knowledge and experiences but I wanted to know of yours-so could you kindly educate me on what is so bad about RoY? And as I asked previously, which brand do you recommend as an alternative?

makavele:
ROY Solar is a PWM charge controller (and a very fake one at that);
unlike MPPT charge controllers.

Do a google search PWM vs MPPT charge controllers and expand your horizon.

@Niyi, thanks for this detailed response.

I'm in Lagos so do you have any suggestions as to the "known sources" you mentioned.

Thanks

NiyiOmoIyunade:
One last thing if you are going with MustPower type brands is for you to ensure you buy from known sources with local brick and mortar presence, service center and an easy warranty process e.g Felicity brand as much as possible - that way if anything breaks you are assured of an easy fix and availability of parts/spares - you may not be well served in the long run if you buy from one man resellers or importers who will bring in/sell this flavor today and another tomorrow and when something breaks, will tell you the spares or parts for the version you bought are no longer available or can only be procured at great expense.

Hi earthrealm,

How much does the Mustpower cost? Does it have a loud low voltage alarm?

And what brand and cost is your Charge controller?

earthrealm:
i hv a mustpower 48v/4kva, runs like a champ..has 31amps charging current - tested ok with a standalone clamp meter, has batt type selector switch, and charging current adjuster etc..powers 2kw iron, 1kw microwave though not at the same time, its ok for my needs, only drawback is the massive idle power draw whcch folks here say is in excess of 100w, i hvnt tested this, shudnt be an issue, if you have solar panels \\\\\=phcn pumpmping in back the jiuce.

personally i prefer 48v systems, cos of ease of adding over 4kw panels with the right cc, at minimal cost

Please what's wrong with ROY solar and what are the alternatives?

makavele:
no wonder the batteries died .

roy solar on top 4 x 200ah battery

hmmm

S007:
OMG. Not this thing called Roy again.

@mcTrinity,Thank you for your detailed response.

Have been using solar for two years now and after spending a fortune have only had substandard results obviously due to the ignorance of the installer. I am trying to start over again but no longer inclined to spend huge sums just to power a few items in my home. Apart from the 3.4KVA Bluegate inverter, I will also be changing the Charge controller but as I'm not yet decided on whether to upgrade to a 48V system i would like to know your thoughts on a cost effective brand whether 24V or 48V and either PWM or MPPT.

Gurus in the house are also implored to drop advice.

Thanks

mcTrinity:
hello Vulcan,

I can't literally tell you which is more reliable as I've not installed Mustpower before.

Nevertheless, I can tell you that I have clients that have been using Mopower for long now without issues. One uses his to carry his fridge and freezer, water pump (1.5hp pump), washing machine and including basic loads (TV, decoders, fans, lights). and of course, the heavy loads are not loaded at the same time, except for fridge & freezer; the fridge and freezer or washing machine are knocked off before the water pump is used.

Also have one that uses his for fridge, electric sowing machine and basic loads....

and so on and so forth......

And trust me, I believe there are also guys here that has good review for Mustpower. Just that I'm a fan of USA/German and Indian products. Not really into Chinese brands.

However, Mopower and Indian products alike have one major and serious setback: LOW CHARGING CURRENT.

I'm yet to personally see an Indian inverter that has a charging current above 20A (usually 16A max for Mopower/Sukam). All the clients that I mentioned above have substantial solar system to effectively charge their battery and supply the loads

so if you're going for mopower, just make sure you're going for a Solar system that can conveniently charge your battery.

Aside the low charging profile, Mopower is very good and rugged.

other experienced gurus can share.

Cheers

Your past posts have confirmed that you are a Muslim.

Considering that you are permitted by your religion to lie to "infidels" to advance the cause of Islam, I don't need to ask why you claim to be a Christian

GoTV:
Even though I'm a Christian i think Muric is right. CAN has been thoroughly politicised during GEJ's era and i won't be surprised if CAN sponsored that Falz video to diss Islam

Reading this thread gave me headache. It's like listening to engineers from Starfleet Enterprise discussing warp drive problems.

I really don't see Solar Inverters taking its place as a viable alternative to NEPA as the knowledge base required to enjoy smooth service is unknown to 99% of installers in Nigeria, so people will keep having issues with their systems!

I'm having some issues with my setup but it seems too mundane for the high calibre brains here.

So let me just ask a simple question. Between Mopower 3.5KVA/48V and Mustpower 4KVA/24V, which one is more reliable?

I couldn't help laughing as you described the current state of affairs. Hilarious

My question to you is did the last budget he signed reduce the hunger?

ashjay001:
He hasn't signed it n d populace are hungry! The populace, already place all d blame of d hunger on him!

After praying...get your pvc. Faith without works is dead

figure007:
Enough of all these dramas... All our leaders both past, present are total failure... The only man that I believe would have helped this nation a bit was yaradua but didn't last... I could see some senses in that man but all these ones shouting about have all failed us... I don't even bother about them again... Na make God help us individually. Though I won't stop praying for the nation but hey youths hustle legitimately for yourself and pray along.... God bless all we youths in Jesus name

A "dignified prostitute" has no business exposing her cleavage. Are you for real?

Olalan:
Everybody knows majority of actress are dignified prostitutes.
BTW she has no business exposing her clevage

S.luts who think themselves Ladies

peacettw:
Boys who think themselves men

Her advice has got more to do with common sense than marriage experience. It's a shame you can't see that.

Senselin:
Married people are morally qualified to give other married people pieces of advice. Oya Angela, mechie onu.

Lazy youth that didn't even bother to read the story.

SacredMustang:


Good girl... all she's waiting for is just for the man to kick the bucket in few years time, and everything becomes hers in the twinkle of an eye...




Who else thinks this girl is smart for marrying her ancestor.?

Why?

Louteelaw84:
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I pity the fool that read this

What do you mean by "you Nigerians"?

Who are you and what is your pedigree?

Do you think you are the most educated, enlightened or travelled person on Nairaland(not to mention the entirety of The Nigerian populace globally)?

Please tell us who you are and what you have achieved that No Nigerian can lay claim to?

safarigirl:
so, when Jackie Chan gets injured, they just keep rolling the cameras?

Do you know the difference between stage and film? When a movie is being shot, the camera stops as many times as it has to.

If someone gets injured, the camera WILL STOP. So, if Beyonce is performing LIVE on Stage, she has to keep going. If someone is slapped durig a LIVE STAGE play, she has to keep going. If Beyonce falls while shooting a video, she pauses to take care of herself before shooting continues, she does not keep going.

You Nigerians ought to learn the difference between shooting a movie and stage play. There is a reason why some people cannot do both and stick to the one they can shout CUT

I have never seen a school bully stop bullying someone because they were nice to him. As a matter of fact, being nice to a bully makes them despise you the more.

gurnam:
Play politics of interest and not politics of vengeance and hate, this is where Ibos are missing it

If the SE play Any Govt In Power(AGIP) game then why have they rejected your govt?

Most of these BMC are scraped from the bottom of the barrel.

Low quality people who use words that are beyond their comprehension

BelovedBuhari:
Don't be carried away.

It doesn't take a Pigidiot or Blood Miner to tell who is a real or fake Yoruba.

Yoruba's are one and we fully support the present government. We don't waver easily from our chosen political ideals, that's why our people don't play the AGIP game like they enjoy doing in SE

Sai Baba

PMB till 2023

You lack vision.

This post will be seen by 1m people within a week. All the blogs will carry it.

He is not a celebrity so common sense should tell you that he may not have thousands of followers.

samuelchimmy:
Upon all this epistle, the post only managed to garner 44likes, Kai. What a waste of energy

Just to let you know.....
....
....
....This is fake news!

But it was OK for APC to criticize everything under PDP govt. Bloody Hypocrites

ZeeBaba17:
Reno Omokri is just making a nuisance of himself by trying to criticized everything under this govt, previously their singsong was that everyone who decamped to APC is now a saint but immediately these ones are jailed he's now giving the credit to GEJ. he should also give the credit of our recession to the previous govt since everything start from their time. please Reno! bury whatever hatred you have and try to profer solution on the betterment of this nation