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FunkyMetahuman:
learn to read

what do you understand by judgement?

FunkyMetahuman:
Even vampire dey go church

Like I always say, you can do anything and back it with bible.

Kill in the morning, ask forgiveness in the night, doesn't matter who you kill,even if its a baby, god will still forgive.

And so people will be tell us morality comes with religion.

that is what you think about God. get your facts right

sirfee:
Yes I agree with you on this one,thanks and good night.

thanks

oglalasioux:
You didn't read my mention yet you asked for my opinion. Selling your god prevented you from intelligently arguing the points I raised. I just hope I wasn't wasting my time with a kid. Good night.

lol, u said God cannot be the reason for the universe origin, that I try to answer
I also try to explain why he drove the inhabitants before the Israelites. I also try to explain that extra forces apart from the physical exist cause I witness it.

am not forcing you to believe in God, I just trying to explain what I see about life

oglalasioux:
No one can correctly say what was the energy that transformed into hydrogen and helium atoms that made the universe. Science can't even answer that. We can go as far back as the big bang but no one knows what banged, why it banged and what was there before the bang.

Now let's look at the biblical account of creation. After the evidence of the information of the universe that we have, there's no way the Bible even came close to explaining why we are here. If the Bible is wrong then the god it preaches is also wrong.

There's another problem I have with the Bible and the god it preaches. It preaches a vindictive, megalomaniac, selective god who chooses whom to bless and whom to curse, not by our deeds but through his selfish grace. If there's a god that is behind the big bang, it can never be the biblical god. Check it out; over two hundred billion galaxies, each galaxy containing at least four hundred billion individual stars, each star with its planetary system.

No. Such a god will not single out the Jews and give them a killing license. The Bible is awash with instructions to kill and wipe out people who don't believe in the Jewish god. I don't believe a god that took time to create a universe that is at least 150 billion light years in diameter is the same god of the Bible or the Koran or of any of the over 4000 gods.

If you are awed by the complexities of life and the wonders of miracles, healings, witchcraft etc, I must tell you they all have explanations. That should be a story for another day.

what you see is only a fraction of God creations.
how can u explain how engineers created the computer, what about a chimpanzees trying to explain it.
don't use your human judgment and limitations to try to measure God strength. think of the power of a bulldozer to the power of one man, the man cannot use his strength as a bases for judging the bulldozer.

the reason God destroyed the people in the land and drove them before the Israelites is because they were annoying him daily. he gave the land to Abraham as a gift for his righteousness. just like evicting a troublesome tenant and giving it to a law abiding citizen.

one day in wuse market in Abuja a magician turn sand and stone into rice and meat under my own very eyes

my brother there are powers and beings beyond your human comprehension

sirfee:
There is nothing so special in forecasting or predicting because prediction is just an "informed guess or opinion".I can call it gambling because the results are not always accurate or guaranteed.

Concerning the charms and spirits;you are already deviating because I stated clearly that they are mysteries which means they might be real or fiction,nobody is fully sure or certain about that because mysteries are beyond human understanding.I refused to be fed with heresy,assumptions and "tales of the gods" because no one is omni potent and omni science(except God almighty).

In the religious school of thoughts;there is nothing like hallucination which is very wrong,even typhoid fever can make someone sees false vision and revelation.The religious folks want us to believe everything about them and their religions including their hoax doctrines and hypocrisy(no offence).

Few years back,some set of people came up with their evil and hoax agenda to deceive the public and to instigate turmoil and hatred in the religious world and beyond.I'm talking about the prophets of doom wandering around the world(especially here in Nigeria),they were brainwashing and misleading the masses all in the name of fake revelations and visions.

One even said he saw the late pope of the catholic church(John paul II),Michael Jackson etc in hell..is that not bullsh*t?The most annoying part is that some gullible religious bigots consumed and digested these gibberish and started applauding these scammers neglecting the truth and the facts.

Can you convince me to take this religion and its dictum/doctrines as the true way of life and the passage to eternal joy and rest.Can you convince me with facts and not assumptions,can you convince me to believe everything that comes out of this religion and it followers.For your information,I was born into a strong christian family/background(a catholic and a pentecostal) before I decided to adopt deism as my religion.

I was ones an atheist myself. as am talking to you I don't attend churches. one day in my bold self a being spoke to me I turn around but so no one,the voice told me if am that intelligent I should explain how the universe come to been.

later that night I saw myself speaking to someone I can't see arguing that pastors are preaching different things and different denominations confusing the people, I asked which one is correct. he stretch is hand and gave me the Bible.

as I study something in my head help me explain, I discover that more than 90% of what this pastors teach is wrong.
this is a long story but to cut it Short if you rely on happenings in the world your heart will be offended

take for instance evolution theory, a theory based on assumptions and without proof taking generally as law

sirfee:
There is nothing so special in forecasting or predicting because prediction is just an "informed guess or opinion".I can call it gambling because the results are not always accurate or guaranteed.

Concerning the charms and spirits;you are already deviating because I stated clearly that they are mysteries which means they might be real or fiction,nobody is fully sure or certain about that because mysteries are beyond human understanding.I refused to be fed with heresy,assumptions and "tales of the gods" because no one is omni potent and omni science(except God almighty).

In the religious school of thoughts;there is nothing like hallucination which is very wrong,even typhoid fever can make someone sees false vision and revelation.The religious folks want us to believe everything about them and their religions including their hoax doctrines and hypocrisy(no offence).

Few years back,some set of people came up with their evil and hoax agenda to deceive the public and to instigate turmoil and hatred in the religious world and beyond.I'm talking about the prophets of doom wandering around the world(especially here in Nigeria),they were brainwashing and misleading the masses all in the name of fake revelations and visions.

One even said he saw the late pope of the catholic church(John paul II),Michael Jackson etc in hell..is that not bullsh*t?The most annoying part is that some gullible religious bigots consumed and digested these gibberish and started applauding these scammers neglecting the truth and the facts.

Can you convince me to take this religion and its dictum/doctrines as the true way of life and the passage to eternal joy and rest.Can you convince me with facts and not assumptions,can you convince me to believe everything that comes out of this religion and it followers.For your information,I was born into a strong christian family/background(a catholic and a pentecostal) before I decided to adopt deism as my religion.

I was ones an atheist myself. as am talking to you I don't attend churches. one day in my bold self a being spoke to me I turn around but so no one,the voice told me if am that intelligent I should explain how the universe come to been.

later that night I saw myself speaking to someone I can't see arguing that pastors are preaching different things and different denominations confusing the people, I asked which one is correct. he stretch is hand and gave me the Bible.

as I study something in my head help me explain, I discover that more than 90% of what this pastors teach is wrong.
this is a long story but to cut it Short if you rely on happenings in the world your heart will be offended

take for instance evolution theory, a theory based on assumptions and without proof taking generally as law

abdulaz:
I have said it and I'm saying it again, I am my own god, my mind is my religion and karma is my judgement.

If you're not your own god, it's your problem and not mine.

take it easy, just a discussion. Jesus said every one is free to believe what he want

oglalasioux:
Read the Bible very well. Your eyes will open. Don't read the whole Bible if you don't want to be an atheist. Just read only the verses your pastor picks; the ones that will suit his purpose of extortion.

OK, I don't rely on pastors to know there is God.
or u can give me a better explanation on how we get here

abdulaz:
There is no god my brother, wake up to the reality.

You are your own god.

so I created myself, definitely not. my brother don't let that evolution theory confuse you, that say we came from the gradual change from ape to man, with no single change visible. or that say big bang gave rise to solid planet

don't decieve yourself you are not God

oglalasioux:
Wake up people!
They know there's no god/gods (insert capital g where necessary).
They will take your money and use it for their selfish pleasure.

how do you know there is no God.

sirfee:
I believe it's a myth,it is just a religious belief based on divine revelation,it is very difficult or impossible to understand or explain.I'm a deist and I believe there's a God but he is a mystery,spirits also are mysteries.Most of the stories,revelations,dreams etc we hear nowadays are nothing but hallucinations,heresy and "tales of the gods".Most of the religious leaders are the major culprits behind these conspiracies going on in the religious world.

is not a myth, the religious leaders use it in favor of their selfish thoughts. more like a fraudulent person using a known system to defraud people.

charms are no myth, they are real. some have hallucinations others don't. in some cases I can foretell what will happen in the near future. I tell people before it happen so no one will say am hallucinating

sirfee:
Menn!I'm not talking about charms or guys who are diabolical.I'm talking about spirits,have you seen any one before?For your information,I grew up at the border region where smugglers and customs are always hostile to each other.I have friends who are very diabolical that they can stand anything including gunshots but they are all humans,and not spirit.

what I saw is clearly not from this world, has a goat head and leg

sirfee:
Menn!I'm not talking about charms or guys who are diabolical.I'm talking about spirits,have you seen any one before?For your information,I grew up at the border region where smugglers and customs are always hostile to each other.I have friends who are very diabolical that they can stand anything including gunshots but they are all humans,and not spirit.

this charms are given to man by spirits, they are more powerful than man. how can one without charm withstand bullets? what is the source of this charms? diabolical men are connected to the dark spirits.

sirfee:
Honestly speaking,I'm used to these stories but my doubting spirit is even stronger than that of Thomas in the bible.Enjoy yourself.

haha, not your fault, how can one see this spirits self?. I only start believing when I went to the village and my uncle shot one guy with double barrel and the bullet bounce off. then I encounter it life

sirfee:
Really? Can you share the picture or video with us(no offence)

lol, but I am serious. u will not even remember where your heart is

nothingmega122:
Handwork of adulterated weed

don't try to tell me you have never experience anything out of the ordinary since you were born

pharmadoctor:
What did you smoke before u experienced all these?
Marijuana is not good on u.
Hallucinations is all I see...
Watch what you smoke next time.

believe me brother, their are spirit beings in this earth. my experience is not a joke

henrydadon:
sound like you had a good sleep to me

and your brain was making sh!t up

am not gonna rule out the power of weed here

trust me have been there before..i slept real good one day and starting making sh!t up that i was a millionaire and met with bill gate and obama..i was only living out my fantasy in my head..and trust me it felt good and real until i woke up to reality to soak garri and sugar

their are powers beyond your human comprehension. magicians, cultist. monks, voodoo experts posses strange energy.
during this holiday in the village, I witness first hand a gun charm, when a double barrel gun was used on the person the bullets bounced off

BrightEye:
You shouldn't conclude that you experienced afterlife with this your story that sounds like movie in ancient time. A spirit does not have characteristics of the physical body, thus could not be doing activities you claimed you were doing . That was like a dream, or a strong imagination.

it is strange when we always mock what others feel. If I tell you this has happened to me you would say it happen in my head without any knowledge of how it happened

nanizle:
Should I start quoting bible verses where Jesus or God sanctions violence? or should I remind you of the numerous genocides committed by the biblical God?

Any religion that promises death, destruction, eternal damnation for non-believers should not be classified as a peaceful religion.

and you can't really have free will if you believe in God.

The bible teaches that there's no free will!

their is actually nothing like free will, even In the land, their are so many laws made by man we obey that restrict our freedom more than the Bible.
even the earth restrict our freedom, I like to fly but could not because of gravity.
when you are less piss of with God you will see the devil and man destroyed his original plan

nanizle:
Should I start quoting bible verses where Jesus or God sanctions violence? or should I remind you of the numerous genocides committed by the biblical God?

Any religion that promises death, destruction, eternal damnation for non-believers should not be classified as a peaceful religion.

and you can't really have free will if you believe in God.

The bible teaches that there's no free will!

u got it wrong. this earth belongs to God and it give it to those he his please with. Abraham pleased God and God swear to give his seeds the Israelites the land. the inhabitants of that land displeases God, most of them sacrifices their own children, so God drove them out.

or are you not at liberty to do as you please with your own things?
don't use your human heart to understand God.
God is very strict when it comes to disobedience, and will judge whosoever cause evil in the land.

no one listen to him again everyone those as they will. now look how unbearable things have become, killing stealing, destruction e.t.c.

for that God said my original plan for man will stand, I will destroy this world and make things new again ,he sent his first creature Jesus to try and reconcile the world with him, but man killed him. he his very angry but not with the righteous, for they shall inherit the new earth

MrMontella:
look at the bolded words carefully,
do they mean the same thing with :

"humans evolved from apes"?
obviously not.

when I watch the documentary of the gradual evolution from this apelike animals, they classify them as ape. this animals are no where to be found. in fact no transformation of one animal to another has ever been documented or found

MrMontella:
lol what are you saying?
how can you be directly comparing 1 to 10, apples to oranges

what I am trying to say is, humans possess a kind of knowledge never found in any animal.
evolution has never address this not even ones

MrMontella:
please bring the evolutionary website that said apes turned into humans

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go to Google and type how human originated according to evolution

MrMontella:
please bring the evolutionary website that said apes turned into humans

Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.
Introduction to Human Evolution - Smithsonian's
Human Origins
humanorigins .si.edu/.../introduction- hum...
Introduction to Human Evolution - Smithsonian's
Human Origins
humanorigins .si.edu/.../introduction- hum...
Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.

MrMontella:
that is not evolution..
go and verify what evolution is

Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.
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that is from Google, I know what am saying

MrMontella:
that is not evolution..
go and verify what evolution is

organism are believed to have developed from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
2. the gradual development of something.


What is evolution ? | Facts | yourgenome.org
www​.yourgenome.org/.../ what-is-evoluti ...
In biology, evolution is the change in the characteristics of a species over several generations and relies on the process of natural selection. The theory of evolution is based on the idea that all species? are related and gradually change over time.


this is from Google, I know what am saying

MrMontella:
that is not evolution..
go and verify what evolution is

organism are believed to have developed from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
2. the gradual development of something.
3. the giving off of a gaseous product, or of heat.
4. a pattern of movements or manoeuvres.
5. the extraction of a root from a given quantity.
What is evolution ? | Facts | yourgenome.org
www​.yourgenome.org/.../ what-is-evoluti ...
In biology, evolution is the change in the characteristics of a species over several generations and relies on the process of natural selection. The theory of evolution is based on the idea that all species? are related and gradually change over time.


this is from Google, I know what am saying

MrMontella:
have you been into the mind of a bee to know it doesn't ask how and why?

bonobos, monkeys etc know good and bad... even a dog knows when it does something bad...

apes invent simple tools,
magpies have been proven to have the ability to improvise.

beavers build "dams", weaver birds make wonderful nests, even the interior of anthills show ants are capable "civil and structural engineers "

not like humans. this things they do are already programmed, they repeat the same thing over and over again. the ape do not show any knowledge if not he would have improved on his tool
dogs know when they do wrong but man commit evil

nanizle:
Religion actually provides 'divine instruction' and 'divine justification' for man to act.

but this instructions is not to destroy.
Jesus said love your neugbour as your self he did not say your religion
men are acting on their free will. I speak about the bible, Christans and pastors are not doing what Jesus said

Sinfulsaint:
ok, have a happy Sunday.

thanks