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otemanuduno:
LOL... Well... Maybe yahweh was so important back then Sha... But as we speak, he is currently in a spiritual prison and that's where he will be for a thousand years until my country has developed mentally, scientifically and physically.

God never prevented anyone for developing mentally, scientifically and physically. take America for example they believe in God and put it as there slogan " in God we trust" they are among the most developed in the world

otemanuduno:
Of all people on earth, you are trying to scam a brain user? No, no, no, it can't work. I don't give sacrificial stuff to anyone. The ones I gave to yahweh as tithe is enough. Never again!!! Atum my god, the brother of yahweh have told me not to give anything to anyone as sacrifice. Rather, I should use my brain.

If you can't let me shoot your uncle two gun bullets free of charge, then let's forget it.

hahahaha, of a truth bullets don't penetrate my uncle we witness that so many times. you know the laws of the spirits is different from ours.
sacrifice means commitment is like putting your signature as a man

otemanuduno:
how? D guy said that the old testament Yahweh's killings have been erased because he sent jesus to die. Then I suggest that the jesus he sent was a kind of bribery to human for us to forgive him his wickedness of killing humanity. What do you think?

the guy is confused and trying to defend the Bible. on the other hand God has never hid is intention to destroy anyone that don't recognize or obey him. hence he drove the inhabitants out of the land. the earth is his own and he give it to whoever he is pleased with

otemanuduno:
As soon as you are ready to take me and few of my counterparts there. We will come with journalists and video cameras.

most people do it for protection so it will be hard to see one for practical purpose. do you intend to try it on yourself if not will you come with someone?
maybe you should try it on my uncle but you need to bring sacrificial gift

otemanuduno:
Nigeria... Lag

when do you intend to go?

otemanuduno:
Let's go when you return from Abuja? When will u return from Abuja?

where are you presently?

otemanuduno:
OH... Now I understand the whole concept of yahweh sending jesus to die. You mean Yahweh sent him to die so that all the evil himself committed against humanity could be forgiven him by humans? Okay... No P, we humans have forgiven yahweh of his numerous evil and wickedness. Realmindz abeg show, this guy said that all the evil done by Yahweh should be forgotten because jesus has come to die. Should we forgive yahweh or we should treat his fvck ups?

exceeding the limit of your comprehension results to this

otemanuduno:
And you think I can't explain the use of charm psychologically? Charms work on the victims because of fear. It is the belief In a charm that makes it work, not the charm in itself. Assuming ur uncle was alive when the white colonized us, I guess he would have used that charm to stop them all
What do u think?

charm works but it is restricted by spiritual laws. psychological explanations hide the limit of man logical reasoning,

during the time of colonization do our fathers already know what is a gun?

legwa10:
I find it hard 2 leave my old ways... I really need 2 b a faithful Christian

try bit by bit and don't loose site of your goal even if you fail. ones you truly make up your mind to change your grace increases.

otemanuduno:
I won't use my brain to explain dem say, dem say...rather, I will ask u to bring the person who used his charm to withstand bullet so that we can reshoot him with our own gun and see if he survives it. Mail me on when we will meet with that person so I can start planning on how to rent a local gun from the hunters.

hahahahaha I can't laugh, but this is true, we have use it to fight countless war in the Niger delta. but if you are serious you can come to delta my uncle do such charm come with your own gun so you don't think it is fake.

when do you agree to go, cause am in abuja now and we need to plan this. science believe in practical and this is the easiest way to practice spiritualism

vicardino:
U really have time for these kinda guy. 2 Corinthians 4:4 says it all

just trying to show them the foolishness of what they believe so they can come to their senses hence winning them for God, then the chains of the devil and the world will be broken one's their eyes become open

Bandeco:
Because your god is yet to be proven that he/she /it exist. The evidence for your god is zero.

Care to provide evidence?

it is better like this cause you seems wiser than us, prove that God doesn't exit. provide evidence

DrogoG:
Do you read English? Where did I call people kids and names?

sorry, you said I quote" are for kids"

oneclot:
Please keep your comment pertinent to the question asked. I never claimed to be wiser than the Holy Spirit.
Stop putting words in my mouth!

sorry, just wanted to know your view of what happened in the beginning so I can learn

otemanuduno:
the cardinal teaching of religion is worshipping a god, but the cardinal things I am sent to the world to teach are these:

*use your brain
*worship no god
*do good to humanity

There has never been any religious book where the word 'brain' was written. They hide the brain and its use from the people. BUT THE DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH is here, saying USE THAT BRAIN.

See more from the link below: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

when it comes to spiritual matter you can't use the brain.

please explain how we can use our brain to understand how the human body withstand gun bullet using charm

Bandeco:
The fool said in his "heart".. Lol

This shows the ignorance of the primitive desert dwellers that wrote the bible. They thought the heart is the center of cognition. It's just a bloody pump.

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No wonder they primitive ignorant people that conjure up the bible never knew there is an organ encased in the skull - the human brain - arguably the most sophisticated thing in the universe. Nowhere in the bible the human brain was mentioned.

this shows the extent of your comprehension. the heart in the Bible means mind, it was translated to mean heart.
you still avoided my argument. you the modern man that knows about the brain tell us what happened in the beginning

Bandeco:
The fool said in his "heart".. Lol

This shows the ignorance of the primitive desert dwellers that wrote the bible. They thought the heart is the center of cognition. It's just a bloody pump.


No wonder they primitive ignorant people that conjure up the bible never knew there is an organ encased in the skull - the human brain - arguably the most sophisticated thing in the universe. Nowhere in the bible the human brain was mentioned.

this even show how ignorant you are. the heart in the Bible means mind, where the thoughts of man originate

you the modern man that is wise and knows about the brain" tell us what happened in the beginning

oneclot:
Your answer to my question is wayward.
Answer the question like a true follower of Christ as he expects you to whenever you are questioned because he promised that the Holy Spirit shall teach you all things.

yes the spirit teaches all things and reveal it to you but you believe not. if I tell you am only repeating what you have heard before.

you claim to be wiser than the holy spirit, now tell us what happened in the beginning and I will learn from you, perhaps I will stop believing the Bible story

next time anyone says there is no God, don't try to explain cause they will just ask you more silly questions and mock you.

they condemned and ask question they don't even have answer to. you can expose there foolishness by asking them in the beginning what happened? and sit back and watch how foolish they will respond some will just disappear totally.

remember the fool had said in his heart there is no God, you can only expose the foolishness by letting him tell us what happened in the beginning

otemanuduno:
Those humans who saw nothing expanding to form the Universe actually saw it so because God the UNIVERSE cannot be seen with physical eyes. Even when we die, we won't still see him. They saw vacuum expanding because God the Universe cannot be seen. But then he exploded and the material elements of the universe came into being. Then he sent his children Allah, Yahweh, Vishnu, Atum, Chimides, Chaleb, Jupitus, Mercurious and the other thousands of them to go and make findings of all the things he had invented. But rather than making those findings, many of these gods made the earth and few other planets there final bus stops, created the hominids and Neanderthals and asked them to worship them. Then the different manner of worship resulted to religion today. Now you pick Allah, one of the creation of God the Universe and worship him, while I pick Yahweh and worship him as God Almighty and another picks Mazda. Then our gods passed jealousy to us and we get jealous of how the others worship their own deities. And nothing invented was invented by worshipping these gods. BUT THOSE WHO CONNECTED TO THE UNLIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE UNIVERSE THROUGH THE BRAINS BEGAN TO INVENT GREAT THINGS WHICH ARE USED NOW AND WILL REMAIN USEFUL FOREVER.

But religion, the inventions of the creations of god always have expiry date. Some religions go while others come up.

interesting, this your thought is completely new to me, but I will place it as another type or religion b

otemanuduno:
Me? Say there is no God? Nah, I never said so. I just know that Yahweh, Allah and Vishnu are not the GOD ALMIGHTY.
God isn't in religion but in us. He is us and everything. He created Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Odin and all other small small deities like them.

almost correct but not 100% . there must be a reason for the world to be like this.

the God in us how did he start?

oneclot:
Who created planet earth? Prove this to me, with reference in the bible, if you really know what happened in the beginning.

you where told and you do not believe, now let us hear your own part so we can learn.

otemanuduno:
I am referring to the God who created every material thing with a big bang. Check my signature for more.

big bang, you mean the dot that expanded and formed the universe?

MrEgbegbe:

Why would i go to church to sing and pray to an imaginary God who doesn't exist ??

Someone whose​ virgin mother was impregnated by a ghost

Someone who was born 9000 years ago with no evidence to support the imaginary birth, he promised to come and destroy the world in the middle of the night, we have been waiting for him for more than 1 million years now, maybe he's booking a Qatar airways that will take him to earth

Some who said i will be thrown into the hell fire, a fire that has been flaming for 9 million years without stopping and the people in there haven't turned to ashes

Some who sits in a 4 million carat gold throne in heaven while his children die of hunger and diseases on earth

Fucck out of here with that your silly story

Religion is the biggest scam in the history of the world

you argue and condemn without providing any answer.
you the wisest among us what happen in the beginning, so we can confirm your wisdom

DrogoG:
Because they realized there was no God! Religion was created by humans who used it for power, control and wealth.

Your God is an imaginary one. You can't prove it/he/she exists. Can you?

Kids are brain-washed with religion because letting them decide as adults will be tough for religious institutes. An adult who was not brain-washed as child ts more likely to be nonreligious.

I keep coming across comments like yours, if you say the answer is not '20' that means you know the answer. instead of calling people kids and names, it would have been better to tell us the answer.

now in the beginning what happened?

otemanuduno:
Nature is one of the uncountable elements of GOD THE UNIVERSE, the creator of Atum, Vishnu, Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Odin, Enlil, Olorun, Nyame, Chuku and all the other small small gods that has ever existed from eons.
NATURE IS A BODYPART OF GOD THE UNIVERSE, THE UNLIMITED AND THE OMNIPRESENT.

by saying God the universe are you referring to evolution theory?

otemanuduno:
Okay, take for instance, I was born in India. I was indoctrinated with Hinduism. I grew up and indoctrinated myself with Islam. Is that rebellion too?

take Nigeria for instance, you think those that claim there is no God like you have not heard about the God?

otemanuduno:
Everybody was born a lamb: gentle, meek, humble and innocent, therefore indoctrination was very easy and possible. Our parents capitalised on our gentleness, meekness and innocence to indoctrinate us. But nature left us with a choice when we got matured and here are the choices:

1. Continue in the Doctrine u were indoctrinated with and grow into a sheep(stu*pidity).
2. Reject the belief you were indoctrinated with and transform into a human(thinker). We went for option B and those who went for option A see us as demons

by saying nature give us the opportunity what do you mean by nature

hopefulLandlord:
I am an atheist. I don’t believe in gods. None of them. Not yours, not theirs, not that one or this one. There is no evidence that gods exist. Period. I didn't start out atheist. I was raised Christian, and stayed that way until my early teens, when I started questioning and reading.

I haven’t prejudged anything, I came to these conclusions years ago after a whole lot of research. So far, I haven’t seen or heard any new arguments that persuade me to buy into religion. For me to believe the stories of the Bible are divine inspiration, I would first have to believe in the divine.

Clearly I don’t insist on Genesis being historical. Not a problem for me, but I live in a country where over 80% of the population believe in Adam and Eve, Noah, angles and demons as real and/or historical beings. That may not describe you, but that is way too many people who fail to connect with reality as far as I’m concerned.

There is nothing I've read or heard about that makes the mythology of a miracle working Jesus at all real for me. There are at least two common scenarios for these stories.

1. Jesus was the son of god, born of a virgin, worked miracles and was resurrected after his execution by the Romans

or

2. That was all made up, because we know that those kinds of stories were common in the day, and everyone of any importance was some kind of magic worker, son of a god or brought back to life.

Our understanding of reality, and the complete dearth of evidence for any of the above makes it easy for me to pick a side on this.

I happen to know many modern intelligent people who believe this nonsense. Some of them are involved in science and have no problem partitioning their mind so as to hold science and reason while also embracing some form of religion including Christianity. Some are friends and some are family. I suggest that your mind reading skills are lacking. (That’s OK because I don’t believe in mind reading either). I think it unlikely in the extreme that god(s) spoke to anyone, even thousands of years ago because as of yet there is no evidence for said god(s).

The Bible is written just the way I would expect the book to be written if it was put together by men (who knows, maybe some women, too) 2000 to 2500 years ago who had limited understanding of the world. There is nothing in it that speaks of inspiration except perhaps in the story telling aspect, but really nothing revealing or earth shattering, though I rather like some of Ecclesiastes and if you cherry pick the New Testament, there is some decent material there, though much of it can be found in many other writings.


I think the reason atheism is on the rise in Nigeria is because people are beginning to think for themselves and holding the religious books and claims to more scrutiny than accepting it at face value as their parents told them to. Just as our views on slavery and bigotry we learned are not humanistic views. I don't use christian/Muslim views as many christian/Islam faiths still preach hate for certain people and use their religious books as justification for this. and I think more people see this and say to themselves this is so wrong how can the bible/Koran be the word of god so then they doubt the bibles origin and teachings and eventually make the transition to atheism.

you seems to be very sure there is no God based on your limit of comprehension. it would have been better if you give us your own advance view how life started then we shall agree you are wise

skillful01:
Well,I gave on religion for two reasons:
1. The religious god phucked up.
2. "for ye shall know the truth and the truth will make you free".

curiousity made me discover the truth.

you are now Wise in your own thought, why not tell us the truth so we can learn

ifenes:
Your god doesn't like skimpy cloths but yet he slept with a virgin without letting her know. Rapist,the true god of pastor suleman

a God you do not know

mrmrmister:
Where are those clowns who claim they can perform miracles?

what were you told about miracle? or what did you understand by the word miracle?