₦airaland Forum

Dirkcoyt:
Chairman, the example you gave is different. Scouser, geordies, Cockney, brummies are all tribes of the ethnic group called English.

just like Arochuwku, mbaise, are tribes of the ethnic group called igbo.

You can see even the british know the importance of sharing the same identity reason regardless of it being British the Scots, welsh still have their autonomy to a certain degree, Or have you seen a country called Britain in the FIFA world cup before? What you will see is england,Scotland, wales . something different in Nigeria.

Patrioticooduan:
This is what you get when a country is united by a similar language, culture, and history. You live like one big family. African countries are not like this. The Europeans lumped hundrends of ethnic groups into one so that they fight each other for dominance. This way they can be easily controlled. This is what they used in the slave trade. The European slave owners mixed people from different ethnic group so that won't be united to oppose them. Today, France and England still colonise us.
European countries are split along ethnic lines. Even Scandinavian countries are not excluded.
Sweden is dominated by ethnic Swedes.
Norway is dominated by ethnic Norwegians.
Denmark is dominated by ethnic Danish.
Iceland is dominated by ethnic Icelandics.
Finland is dominated by ethnic Finns.
Greenland is dominated by ethnic Greenlandics.
Why can't ethnic Yorubas have their own country?
Why can't ethnic Igbos have their own country?
Why can't Hausas live on their own?
What we live together when we can do better on our own?

komekn:
We probably need to have a clear cut definition of what define as up and coming talent.

I am skeptical about the general presumptions of what we call up and coming talent on this forum.

76% of English academy football player end up not playing professional football. I gave you the example of John Coffy, bought at 16 for £1 million by Manchester United. He played in the Finals of the FA youth cup with Pogba but he is now playing non league.

What I am saying is that Youth football is only indicative. Playing a couple senior games in your club is only indicative not conclusive.

If at 21 you have not played 50 professional games and made your mark thats not progress. Players are getting opportunities at younger ages now.

pelezico:
But went to the WC and scored a fantastic goal against Argentina. Ideye is old news - if you still shilling for Ideye then Nigeria should just award its spot to some other country in Nigeria - im not dissing him im simply saying we must have better strikers than him

Icon79:
Oh please! I think it's an insult to compare Brown Ideye (aka mister-miss-it) with the legendary Samson Siasia. And please don't even try to make that mistake again

That's all I gotta say ... for now


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edi287:
Giroud's hold up play was better than Ighalo. There's a reason Deschamps scrapped the Dembele - Griezmann - Mbappe front 3. Griezmann plays well when Giroud starts

komekn:
I would look at Sol Campbell, he is not poor and has a point to prove very experienced qualified and more African orientated than many African.

However, he will not be controlled or manipulated for self interest.

KevinDein:
You can't win the World Cup with set pieces.

Bunique:
reading through this thread i just feel most Nigerians are ingrates. we forget so easily and are very quick to over hype our abilities. i will not forget the general atmosphere of our football before Rohr took over. look at the teams still at the tournament check where their players play compare that with our players.
many persons here before the world cup had no problem with Ighalo making the squad so why the insult on Rohr for taking Ighalo? tactics did not take us out rather our players failed and many persons here were happy with the players selected for the world cup. please let's move on and learn to appreciate because with this attitude no coach would want to work with us.

olapluto:
Pinnick has done nothing to move Nigerian football forward. The female teams are languishing in suffering while he is doing big boy with corrupt FIFA exco. We spent billions of naira to prepare for world cup, only to come back with ONLY 3 points. Shame

easyelliot:
Looking good as opposed to being good

Im looking at the remaining teams left and all their jerseys are straightforward...while play wise they all have a chance to win the cup.

My country Swag was high... Jersey was fire!!! Celebs were rocking it, foreigners dey rock em....then actual football was played....yuk..yuk yuk...

Cant dribble, cant shoot, cant defend for 10 minutes, cant run, cant adapt, cant take on players, no fire, no desire....flat flat f*cking flat!!!!

Oyingbo wall is soft as cotton candy

I like them, but like doesnt win you anything. If these two are your foundation, then new cement is needed...the wall let in 4 goals in 3 real games. For a team that has difficulty scoring, that aint gonna cut it.

We need to focus our resources on other sports. Football has gone beyond where Nigeria is.
Football is very scientific today filled with analytics to improve and help a team adapt, anticipate, act, react, etc...we are no where close. But it's ok, with 200 million ppl, there are other sports for us to try.

Looking at the teams left it is as clear as rain water the jibronis that represented us would have chopped at least 5 if not for Rojos and messi saving us from going forward.

We dont have players with the mental fortitude and discipline to take us higher, nor do they posses the work ethic, hunger and informed decision making to go further.

All our players care about is money up front, so they can take care of their entire village and show lifestyle, if not why for the love of God would Etebo leave la liga for epl div 2? Isnt that going backwards? And you are a starter for the national team??

As for one of our benchers... Ebuehi(still dont know why is on the bench), .....goes from Dutch league to Portuguese giants, with a champions league ticket already booked. That's growth , a player who wants to improve. Unfortunately he is the exception not the norm.

I read somewhere that Rohr said he had a few players that will no longer be part of the eagles...few ke? Ogbeni.....let me help you..

List of players that should not report for duty again

Mikel - holding back Iwobi
Ighalo - CANNOT SCORE EVER AGAIN!!!
Onazi- It's time
Joel- no comment
Iheanacho ( yes even uncle) - annoyance
Shehu - quota
Idowu - coach's pet
Omerou - it's time
Echiedje - it's time

Snatch that 10 jersey from skippo and give it to Iwobi. Iwobi is not perfect, but he can be a very good 10.

But how are we supposed to know that when u are playing a career definsive midfielder as your play maker. The reason? Well he played it for us for 2 years and nobody complained? What?

So my coach is telling me that playing against mediocre African talent is the same as playing world class talent? Adapt biko,....step it up...

Rohr should be fired, but he wont because he and pinnick are in bed together.


End rant

goldfish80:
When it comes to who the next eagles manager should be, I don't think Gernot Rohr is the man to take us forward. As much as he brought certain degree of calmness and organization to the team, I still see him as the forebearer. His job is done with Nigeria as he has taken the team as far as he can.
If he must stay, then we are just prolonging the inevitable.

However, incase Gernot Rohr stays, then he must be made to sign documents which will make him live in Nigeria with his family. He must report to office on daily basis and provide support, technical assistance and supervise our various youth teams, monitor league games and organize seminars for local coaches in the NFL and the grassroots.
This should be the blue print going forward. Nigeria must build from ground up. All these short cut to success will always lead to failure on the global scale.

If Rohr should go, then we should be looking at a braintrust of indigenous coaches mixed with foreign technical assistants.Guys like Siasia and Amunike should head this braintrust whilst they are assisted by foreign expatriate physical trainers/high performance coach, video analysts and other backroom fillers where we lack indigenous capacity.

Another option worth considering is a manager from old Yugoslavia. Those guys are hard workers and they have no qualms living in Africa since their climes and ours aren't so dissimilar.
Furthermore, they are quite cerebral and they are affordable. For instance, look at the job Micho did with Uganda, Petrovic with Suisse and Dalic with Croatia.
We must be looking at the next level and a clear plan for the future.
The future is no longer far away.

daveP:
Since they've been winning it, who e epp? Did the winners of the last one go-to world cup?


And the winner of most of the afcon, see how they were shown the door onyop all the Salah wey dem get. who again epp?


Drawing board calls. Let's just answer it so that all we would be playing for will just be Pride and pride alone.

chrisooblog:
bro allow me to list sub-saharan african team's achievements

Nigeria - 2nd round three times 1994, 1998, 2014

Ghana - 2nd round once 2006 quarters once 2010

Cameroon - quarters once 1990

Senegal - quarters once 2002 (will most likely do well this year)


north african teams world cup achievements

Algeria - 2nd round 2014

Morocco - 2nd round way back in 1986

so bros no comparison

Icon79:
You can never count on the North Africans to come through for Africa. Once you get on the world stage, their feet turn to clay. Put either one of Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroun, or Senegal (take your pick) into any of these North African World Cup groups (Egypt, Morocco, or Tunisia) and we'll be talking about, at a minimum the round of 16.

Let's hope that Nigeria and Senegal makes it to the round of 16, so that we can make a case for CAP to form a separate zone for the North African countries. They haven't represented Africa well. In fact, they are wasting our slots. For instance, there's no doubt in my mind that Ghana or Cameroun would've done much better than Morocco, Egypt or Tunisia!


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komekn:
Why do you disagree

I will admit to handicap in that i will only be able to talk about players in the UK.

In this regard I have personally spoken to a lot of Nigerian origin players and the issue at stake is our approach.

komekn:
It is easy to get them 100%.

These players do not need the SE to further thier careers, they found it for love if the Fatherland.

However, not with this insincere approach from the NFF, we will not attract them.

Unfortunately officials are looking to make corrupt deals under the table and slaughter excellence and enthrone mediocrity, for thier personal gain.

BascoSourcing:
Kramaric is a striker. He likes drifting to the left and cutting in. Shehu cannot chase him like a mad man when he cuts in. The winger was Perisic and we didn't hear his name much.

forgiveness:
How many times was he beaten?

How many chances did Croatia create from his wing?