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Vinx4Christ: Bro, do u believe in life after death?

How can one believe such a thing, in our current position as living human beings? At best, we can hope. But to believe it is foolishness. On what exactly is this belief based? No one has died and come back.

ProphetUdeme: that a dangerous and angry raging fire awaits u with 2 giant demons assign to toture u due to ur unrepentant heart but God that u despise is desperately in need of u to be saved thats y he sends us the prophets to cry to u to return to Him.. And to show the extent that God loves u is that he punishes us severely if we neglect to give u His love letter which is the gospel

I don't wanna hang out with your imaginary deity. Your arrangement is between you and him. You're the one who signed the contract, I can recall doing no such thing.

Christians shouldn't say s)hit as long as Yahweh remains imaginary and fictional. Prove that Yahweh exists and these guys must necessarily disappear.

MrAnony1: Earlier, you said that our behavior is driven by certain chemical interactions. Now it seems to me that you are saying that we are responsible for the things that drive us and control our actions. Is that what you are saying?

Of course. Who else should be responsible for your behavior?

Rental plane. That boy no get 40 billion naira for him pocket, and if he did, he wouldn't spend ALL of it on one item. Abi, who go carry his GF buy her shoes? Where will he sleep when he's not in the air? How will he eat?

MrAnony1: Just to get you right, are you saying that people are not morally responsible for any of their actions rather it is all just physical interactions between physical bodies?

Your meat ship, your responsibility. You're responsible for the behavior of your organic vehicle.

ifeness: God is not human huh,but could walk in a garden and look for Adem right? God is not human but could accept burnt animal offering right? God is not human but could dine with Abraham with his two bodyguards? God is not human right? The white man is your God!

God even fought Jacob in hand to hand combat, and had to cheat his way to a win. There are UFC fighters who would have badly wounded Jacob in the first 30 seconds.

mazaje: All you are saying is god is your default position for "I don't know". . .

Isn't that true for all believers? That's why they need faith.

MrAnony1: This is a strawman of my position once again. When I spoke about order there, I wasn't referring to order in a moral sense rather I was speaking about order in a purely physical/"scientific" sense. The order of the physical elements of the universe is a different category from the order of it's moral beings.

Our behavior is driven by chemIcal reactions at the cellular level. That's both physical and scientific. You're willing to present the cell as an example of God's magnificence, and ignore Boko Haram and ISIS in the process. Are we not a collection of atoms and cells?

Tallesty1: Like seriously? How and where did he violate what the scripture said about him? Some Jews didn't believe in him because they red and understood the sripture in a literal maner like you. That was why they thought he was talking about their temple when he said "Destroy this temple and I will raise it in three days". For them he was talking about their temple but Jesus was talking about his body
This is annoyingly funny!

Jews have listed a reasons here:
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewsandjesus/

If Davido father put 40 billion naira on a plane, which money he go use buy toothpaste to brush teeth?

MrAnony1: The universe functions in an orderly way such that it is intelligible and not chaotic.

I disagree. The universe includes ISIS, Boko Haram, Ebola, the animals on the Serengeti, and stars that are constantly collapsing. We live in a relatively stable section of the universe, but even earth is bombarded by chaos. Our meat vessel in which we move around begins deteriorating the moment we're born. The only thing separating us from corpses is father Time.

Don't just look at the caterpillar which turns into a beautiful butterfly, but consider also the birds that rip them apart for calories.

[quote author=Tallesty1]He didn't see God, he saw the pre-bethlehem Jesus.


Read this verse again "John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

I think you now know why he said that he saw God.[/quota]

Jewish people don't believe in Jesus, he violates everything the scriptures say about their messiah. Jacob didn't believe in Jesus either, according to him, he fought Yahweh not Jesus. Please stop making things up.

Tallesty1: I don't know how best to explain this to you, because having seen the way you sound and the way you keep repeating thesame question(I have answered this one already)I know it will be too difficult for a carnal mind to grasp what really happened in Genesis 32.

Lemme Try. (God help me).

Now pay attention to this "And Rachel’s maid Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son. So Rachel said, “With mighty wrestlings I have wrestled with my sister and I have indeed prevailed.” And she named him Naphtali ( Genesis 30:7-..

Was there a physical combat between the two sisters? I don't think so.

Now let's go back to the topic.
To understand this you must visualise the condition Jacob found himself in. He was torn between his embittered brother and father inlaw. He has done all he could, he has sent people to go and bribe Easau but he didn't trust his judgement. He was in dilemma so he needed to be alone to meditate. And that was when God appeared to him in disguise.(our bone of contention). I believe this verse will throw more light on what I'm saying. "In the womb he grasped his brother's heel; as a man he struggled with God. He struggled with the angel and overcame him; he wept and begged for his favor. (Hosea 12:3,4). I won't tell you who that man was because it will stop you from reading the rest of my comment.

The man came to talk to Jacob, it was never a physical combat, he wanted Jacob to stop living in denial. Jacob knew he was blessed by God but he thinks he can he can get everything his own way. That's why instead of praying to God to change Easau's mind he decided to bribe him.(This can only make sense to you if you understand scriptural principles that are not spelled out based on what it says as a whole).

I dunno how long it lasted but when God noticed that he would not let go of his fears and past then He touched the hollow of his thigh and dislocated it. Probably to make him understand that he was not talking to an ordinary man.

Now ask yourself this question: How can someone who wrestled all night with God be disabled by a mere touch?? Does it make sense to you?

Jacob realised at that point that he was speaking with God so he cried "I will never let you go unless you bless me". Ofcours he will because that was what he came to do but first he wants Jacob to accept that he is nothing without God, he wants him to stop living in denial. He wants him to do away with fears and stop thrusting in the work of his own hands(This was later proved when Easau refused his bribe).

What then happened? God asked Jacob his name. How come? God doesn't know Jacobs name? Ofcours he do but he wants Jacob to accept whom he is. You remember the first time he was asked his name? I bet you do know that Jacob had lied on that occasion and said, "I am Esau,".

This was what God wanted to correct. He asked him his name not because He didn't know it . . .He wanted to know if Jacob was ready to come to grips with who he really was.

Jacob fully understood the reason behind God's question and he answered, "My name is Jacob." "You have spoken the truth," God said, "and you know very well what your name signifies. You have been a duplicitous man, deceiving everyone everywhere you went. But now that you acknowledge the real you, I can change you, and I will make a great nation out of you." So he blessed him.

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Could he be the one that converted Jacob? I dunno. Maybe we should find out for us.

Good luck.

Did Jacob see God or not? According to the bible, both Jacob and God say that he did. Jacob even considered the event so special that he created a name for the location and called the place the Face of God. You are here bringing other contradictory scriptures as if I'm denying the contradiction. The bible has many blatant contradictions.

repogirl: Sometimes I wonder what the word beautiful means...... You say she's just like any other girl, okay please let us know who you think is extra ordinary? Even Genevieve nnaji every one croons and says is beautiful, I don't really see what is really hot about her, its really her total package, if not Genevieve is just good looking, nothing extra ordinary.

on the other hand, where Tiwa's dress sense almost always misses its mark or is kind of bland, Genevieve gets it right all the time.

from her pics above, the black three quater fitted dress was okay, the yellow one wasn't too bad but maybe coulda been a size smaller, as for those shoes, I don't get why she seems to love those ugly shoes, she wore similar ones in the wanted video and d director tried his best not to show them.

the BET gown was grossly ugly and unflattering while the white jumpsuit was beautiful but the hem line was too long... Genevieve wore something similar at half of a hello suns premiere but she rocked it...

maybe what she needs is a stylist who can help with clothes and styles that fit her body, most celebs do this, that someone can sing doesn't mean they can dress....

lastly my mom and I had this argument some months back, she was like Tiwa is ugly and my jaw dropped.... Please what are some people seeing that I can not?

My brother, leave dat one. Genevieve is pretty anywhere, London, New York, LA, Lagos, Accra, and the village. This girl would be less than average here in Atlanta. But I expect her to shut down the village.

striktlymi: Anyone who makes Heaven in the end, would have spent his/her productive time on Earth trying to unite his/her will to that of God. In Heaven his/her desire or perfect conformity to the will of the Father is fulfilled.

These are all speculations. You were probably eating good food while typing this. Don't deceive yourself, you know as much about death and the afterlife as the people who wrote that bible. Joblessness was rampant back then, and they had time to sit around, smoke DMT, and talk to spirit people.

WoodcrestMayor: Did u bother converting $250million to naira?

It's about 40.5 BILLION naira, give or take 10 million naira. That's the combined net worth of snoop dogg and lil Wayne.

thegoodjoehunt3: Three Liberian Doctors were administered the drug. The information of the other two is still not released. Also the way the Americans are fighting to keep the drug secret, I can not count on them to release the exact one. Note, the Americans had this drug for a while and watched thousands of Africans die without doing anything to save them.

Who's to say that they haven't bioengineered the virus to respond to a particular drug? You can get away with that sort of thing on Africans. Most of them are on their knees talking to themselves, or shouting in large buildings. The rest can be bribed.

Joagbaje: Those are not his handi work dear. That's mans handiwork .

In the book of genesis, he created man. Did he not see this coming?

skyrocketters: You,ve got no idea of the features in that jet, click the link. the jet has an inbuilt swimming pool and turbine to generate power when its in the air, its also got a bomb detector. click the link to check them out for yourself

What is the purpose of the bomb detector? You won't even have the chance to grab a parachute or phone a loved one before impact. Does it carry flares too?

I'm not clicking on that link, but I'm guessing you're referring to a Jacuzzi, not a swimming pool. Most planes have turbine engines. Something has to generate power in the air. LOL.

Olusanya333: Since u have eyes and cannot see and you refuse to see.Go on with ur blindless and don't quote me again.

I can see that aliens don't write books. Neither do spirits. Only human beings like me write books. You're welcome to believe that a group of bronze age men, all from the same country, spoke to God who gave them a message for you. That's fine. Follow the dead men. Just don't pretend that it makes sense, because I can even show you places in the bible where your authors admit that they are talking rubbish.

Tallesty1: Gen 32:24 And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. God disguised himself and wrestled with him. He did not see God in his Full Glory else he would have died.

Bla bla bla nonsense. Do I look like a fool to you? Don't stop at verse 24. Genesis 30 has other verses including this one:

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[f] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

In this verse, Yahweh, your other neglected God, is the one saying that Jacob fought him in physical combat. Not me. I'm just repeating to you what he said. Now you're saying that he changed form, as if that matters. Unless Jacob was fighting blindfolded, then Jacob must have seen him.

I don't understand why you wanna dwell on this contradiction when there are scores of other serious ones. You probably don't read that bible you're carrying around.

Olusanya333: I believe the Bible dat everything is written by God.

You believe the authors, other human beings like you.

Olusanya333: You don't even believe the Bible yet u are using the word writeen there in as a ground of arguement.Isn't dat confusion in your brain?

You don't believe it either. Just certain parts.
Only human beings write books. And human beings sabi lie well. If God exists and it wants to contact me, it knows where I am. God wouldn't tell someone else to write down s)hit for me to follow. I have ears and eyes like the writer.

Tallesty1: I don't believe this.

Exodus 33:18-20
18Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”

19And the LORD said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

20But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

Genesis 32:30

And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

So this guy get money pass Lil Wayne and Beyonce? Damn.

Sexipea: her leg is even bent on d shoe shey na by force ni!

Trust me, na by force. This one is even small sef.

Olusanya333: Can you from one of your seven Bibles Quote to the whole world 2 Timothy 3:16. Thanks

Why? A mammal wrote that verse. Are you okay? Someone is telling you that his novel was dictated to him by a deity and you expect me to consider that information.

I'm sorry for the Jews and the Muslims. The Muslims at least acknowledge that Jesus was a prophet sent by Allah. But the Jews don't even believe none of that nonsense. And they have genuine references in their scriptures for that decision. See why Jesus is not the Messiah predicted by the OT here:
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewsandjesus/

CrazyMan: But after a while, God expects you to grow, walk and start doing things for yourself. Unfortunately many won't. Most people still want to remain babies.

Oh, so it's possible to do things for oneself, without needing the dictator?

Joagbaje: Romans 1:20
For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],

I'm looking at his handiwork, like Boko Haram, ISIS, and Ebola. He put a lot of effort into designing that lot.

TB Joshua, peddling empty hope to people for cash since day one.
Answer me this, is there anyone with more desire and willingness than the mother of an Ebola patient? Why are their prayers not working? Both prayers and desire/willingness dey for deck, wetin b the missing third element? Lives depend on it, Mr. Joshua, make u tell us.