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OLAADEGBU: I reiterate that assumptions in the science is crucial. If your presupposition or starting assumption is false though all your calculation based on this false premise may be right but it will still give a wrong conclusion as it has done in the evolution worldview.

Don't just regurgitate an argument without being able to defend it. Exactly which assumptions are you referring to? Is it the number of parent and daughter nuclides present in the original sample?

alexleo: When I talked about the creator in my earlier posts I did mention that christians call him God, muslim call him Allah etc. And I said we understand him differently and relate with him differently but one has to be sure he is following the true path. Relating with him is still an individual thing. Yes I am a christian but my relationship with God Is not exactly the same way with the next christian sitting by my side in my church. Not exactly the same with that of my pastor etc.

Church or religion or reading books may give you a background info but its still left for you to make your personal findings about how you can relate with your creator. Its still an individual thing. When I pray for myself, I pray for other churches,for muslims and pagans. I pray for atheists and co.

There is ZERO chance of a Muslim entering heaven, but by the salvation afforded through Jesus Christ. Your prayers are for them to renounce their creator and embrace the concept of yours. Otherwise, you're asking Jesus to declare himself a liar.

alexleo: Some refer to that source as a force, some refer to the source as energy, the bible refers to the source as God.

We can't say exactly the shape of that source yet the source, though invisible, has characteristIcs/attributes. We describe God(as chrIstians) based on his attributes that are manifest- ( creator, love, mercy. Wrath etc).

True, the bible does refer to the source as God. And then it goes on to claim that this source had a chat with a handful of illiterate villagers from a remote region in Asia.

malvisguy212: all what you got up there are the idea of men, trying to twist the gospel.

You mean the way the gospels tried to twist the Jewish scriptures?

Nowhere is it prophesied in the OT that the messiah won't have a human father or that his mother would be a virgin. You're following what amounts to a Jewish cult group, apostates who rebelled against the original Jewish scriptures and Yahweh.

Jews believe that anything not confirmed by their scriptures cannot be from Yahweh. In fact, Yahweh claims in the first few verses of Deuteronomy 13, that miracles can be a test of one's loyalty to the Torah.

Jews believe, like I do, that God should speak to everyone. Yahweh is a Jewish God, and spoke to all the Jews simultaneously at mount Sinai. Or so it is claimed in Deuteronomy 5:3. Your Jesus business where he doesn't reveal himself to people is not based on Jewish scripture.

lastmessenger: I have not seen God before.God is either male or female or both.so it does not make a difference if I use he or she.

Hasn't God been speaking to you all this time? Didn't he speak to others in the bible?

malvisguy212: isaiah 9.isaiah prophecies the coming of the king of kings and Lord of lord,the mighty God.what dos this mean? God is a spirit, common sense will tell you that a spirit need flash to walk on the earth.

Isaiah 9:6-7 was not about Jesus. The Jewish messiah is expected to descend from the direct lineage of David. Jesus didn't have a paternal lineage since he didn't have a human father.
http://www.whatjewsbelieve.org/prooftext6is96.html

malvisguy212: John1:14.International Standard Version. The Word became flesh and lived among
us. We gazed on his glory, the kind of
glory that belongs to the Father's unique
Son, who is full of grace and truth.

There is no prophecy regarding this sandals wearing word in all of Jewish scripture. The foundation of Judaism is the Torah or the old testament, which they consider to be the words of Yahweh.

Why is this word becoming flesh business not mentioned?

lastmessenger: It educate me more .

One describes a female personality, and the other one is a male.

OLAADEGBU: Assumptions of an old earth or an young one. If your reasoning is based on a belief in evolution, which assumes the earth must be billions of years old, your calculations would be based on such assumptions, which will be correct but still give a wrong conclusion.

You're not making much sense brother. Maybe you should read this.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-science-figured-out-the-age-of-the-earth/

Evolution doesn't have anything to do with radiometric dating.

chrisviral: My question to you now is What is God's voice?

You tell me. You're the one who has spoken to him.

lastmessenger: Does it make a difference if I use she.

Yes.

OLAADEGBU: All radiometric dating methods are based on assumptions about events that occurred in the past.

What do you mean? What assumptions?

MikeyB123: So why does John 1:1 say that Jesus was with God in the beginning? Well, it obviously cannot be referring to the beginning of God the Creator, because God is eternal, having no beginning. (Psalms 90:2) Thus, it must be referring to the beginning of creation, when Jesus was brought forth into existence by God.

Great. So did anything exist before creation or was God just casually chilling in this impossible nothingness?

malvisguy212: to know who jesus realy is.

The Supremacy of the Son of God colossians1: 15
"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in
heaven and on earth, visible and
invisible, whether thrones or powers or
rulers or authorities; all things have been
created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things
hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning
and the firstborn from among the dead,
so that in everything he might have the
supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all
things, whether things on earth or things
in heaven, by making peace through his
blood, shed on the cross."

first born amoung all creation mean the first word that CAME out of the mouth of God.

So the word was walking around wearing sandals?
This is inconsistent with Jewish scriptures. The OT doesn't mention this.

rabbinisha: dear weay thanks for ur concern, for ur case dear that's not gods voice that is ur physical way of reasoning out something .like I said god only talks (voice) only when you are doing evil and sex is not bad only if you have it at a wrong time .have a blessed day and keep god z love higher .god bless you all.

Keep love higher, whoever it belongs to.

calaharry: What grudge do really have against the bible macof? The guy was quoting portions of it to buttress his points on human reasoning based on his beliefs. But it seems you are being holistic in your though process on this matter if good and evil.

The bible does contain some wise words. As well as horrible ones. It doesn't make sense to say that it was dictated by God. Why would God not speak directly to each individual, if this God is capable of doing all things? Does that make sense to you? All this hide and seek nonsense. Is the God a child or an old man?

lovaleenny: If a good practicing Christian answers you now...what exactly do you need the information for?coz I bet you you'll find a way to undermine the person's response....so ask yourself this question why do I want to know who's greater between God and jesus? Before you start to create an avenue for ppl to frustrate Christians

LOL. Good one. It appears that you don't know the answer though.

Christians believe that Jesus is in fact God himself. However, the bible is ambiguous about this as perhaps everything else.

John 10:30
I and my father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

So which one is it? Is God greater than Jesus or are they one and the same?

Another Jonestown in the making.

CrazyMan: Hello bro...

Diseases has been in existence since the fall of man, therefore Ebola shouldn't be an exception.

We had leprosy (arguably one of the oldest disease on the planet) then HIV, SARS, TUBERCOLOSIS...etc. The God who saw us through those deadly and contagious diseases, would see us through this Ebola epidemic.

My God isn't dead bro.

SMH. Just noticed your handle.

rabbinisha: The only way to know that is when your doing something wrong, the voice that always tells u to stop is God's.

What if you're having sex, and something tells you not to shoot a load into the lady, that you should pull out instead. Which voice is that one, rabbi, because that's the only voice in my head.

CrazyMan: church going isn't about warming your pastor's seat, its about opening your heart and expecting something new from God.

The only new thing in church is the new money in the pockets of the poor congregants. The old one was spent on God the previous week.

Orunto: The Bible is the source. All scriptures are from above and are good for learning.

If I want to learn about genocide and mass murder, I'll pick up Mein Kampf. How can mammals write a book and claim that it is the word of an invisible person? Madness!!!

So, there's no style in heaven. Just a bunch of n)aked people bending over and offering praises for eternity. This Yahweh is a true perv.

alexleo: If you bring up another interesting point i ll still make input from my biblical background.

Can I use my Things Fall Apart background to comment too? It was dictated to Mr. Achebe by the tongue of the most high God. Bring your novel, and I'll bring mine.

Fhemmmy: Chairman, how much would buy a used private jet.... I think we all ave to look deep into this, mind you, I am not saying he owns the jet, but if he does, it is not for me to knock him down.... he is qorth something and the dad as well.... the dad has no jet doesn't mean he cant afford one, could mean what rocks his boat is not a jet just like his son too.... one man's meat is another man's poison

And the fake TWitter account? Explain that.

Yahweh used to encourage men to run trains on females. Now he does all his good works through Boko Haram and ISIS.

emmyskies: Are you a christian?

Does my answer have an effect on the question I asked?

malvisguy212: you want me to quote a book you do not believe in? Do you see human live 500years upward?

No. Human beings don't live to be 500 years old. An adult like you should know that.

malvisguy212: you can't compare those days and nowadays,in those days man live longer 500years upward,but today you don't see that happen nowadays,do you?

Which days are you talking about? Were 500 yr old men walking around in Egypt 5000 years ago? Or did this long life only apply to the chosen ones?

So blue ivy is the same as Damien from The Omen? I'm sorry for Jay Z then. Better keep a cutlass nearby to decapitate the spawn of Satan when necessary.