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With a population of 1.5 billion human beings, China is not afraid of Jihad. They can afford to take heavy casualties. First of all, they all look alike. A suicide bomber from Turkey will be identified as a foreigner from a mile away.

There are 14 or so US Congressmen who currently hold Israeli citizenship. Fighting Israel is the same as fighting the US. Without the US as a financial scapegoat, Israel won't last another 2 weeks as a sovereign country.

winner01:
You inflate 1000 to 100,000,000? Okay, Kwantinue, your ancestors are watching you in 3D.

American Indians buddy. There was a massive genocide for which they continue to receive compensation till this day.

GeneralShepherd:
Norway has seen a great decline in religiosity and most Norwegians are irreligious. According to the Eurobarometer Poll of 2010:[6]

22% of Norwegian citizens responded that "they believe there is a God".
44% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".
29% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
5% answered that they "do not know".
Estimated atheism rates in Norway range from 31 to 72%.[7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Norway

Everyday you keep saying on Nairaland that Norwegians are religious. The truth is that even though they are nominal Christians, they are very irreligious, just like many of their neighbours.

I am a nominal Christian but I am an atheist. Similarly, a lot of Europeans are like that.

The Queen is the head of the Anglican communion, yet atheism is on the rise in England. Most English folks still celebrate easter and Christmas, both Christian festivals, yet they do not disbelief in the notion of a God/Gods

Magnus Carlsen is an atheist, and he's probably the most famous celebrity in Norway. His chess games are usually broadcast live on Norwegian TV stations.

bbjummy:
Excuse me, I don't recall mentioning you. Or are you now the OP? B*sy body

Did the OP mention your own name? You followers of the Jewish tribal god are increasingly becoming thin skinned.

KingEbukasBlog:
^^^^^

Atheists have the disposition to hate , terrorise , kill for selfish gains . They lost their sanity because they failed to believe in God

-Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
-Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
-Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
-Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
-Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
-Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
-Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
-Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
-Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
-Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

The veracity of the above information can be verified by checking through credible sources .

How many American Indians did the Pilgrims murder for ordinary soil? I believe it's close to 100 million.

bbjummy:
But OP, how is this affecting you? Let those who believe in this do it with a cheerful heart. It isn't compulsory you give if you don't want to. Nobody will jail you if you don't give, come-on let them be.

Slave owners in the US used to ask their white opponents from the North the same question. How do my African slaves in Charlotte concern you living in New York City?

These pastors must be some very strong atheists, I'm talking Stalin or Pol Pot.

Not only do they stand and tell lies to old people every Sunday, they also extort LOTS OF MONEY from them as well.

The person who wrote this donation form must know that there is no such nonsense as Yahweh.

Drug dealers don't open market in front of police precinct. The threat of punishment causes them to hide from the police. Likewise, for a pastor not to have any fear of Yahweh in this manner, he must first be an avowed atheist.

One lie leads into another. Just things that occur when you worship the fake tribal god of the Jews. You'll have better luck worshipping your nearest palm tree.

winner01:
People should notice that atheists will not concern themselves with this strange idea by this young man whom i'm replying, even though it conflicts with their views, but will be quick to attack the slightest proclamation of the christian doctrine.

So that leaves me the question: What is it about christianity that the carnal nature seeks tirelessly and desperately to suppress?.. This is one question that needs serious consideration.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

So you don't think that he's trolling? Domino Reverad, really?

Joagbaje:
1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Anas09:
Really? This one is bigger than you Sir Were. And what you don't know is far bigger than you.
Very soon, The US and Britain will turn agaisnt Israel, your Arab brothers will see it as an opportunity to move in and crush Israel,but once again, like the six days war, God will show you who He is once more. I just pray for this to happen in our time.

The Jews control everything, the US Congress and the Federal Reserve. Arab people don't stand a chance. Only Hitler did, but he ended up being an irrational cocaine addict.

KingEbukasBlog:
Cosmic is totally random , biological is moderately random

Why do you say that cosmic evolution is random? Do stars randomly collapse or something?

KingEbukasBlog:
Cosmic or Biological

Don't know. Which one did you have in mind when you claimed that evolution was a random process?

KingEbukasBlog:
Don't you guys know how to argue ? I'm using your belief against you . You claim to be science-minded , an evolutionist but you failed to accept the nature of evolution , a scientific theory . Evolution is random , chaotic and chance-dependent - no goal , no direction . The nature of evolution proves the nature is unconscious .

Nature does not think , nature is not aware of its activities but the interaction in nature proves that it is functional not conscious .

Plus if you claim that the atoms responsible for man's consciousness in his brain proves that nature is conscious then the ones in the inanimate unconscious entities prove nature is not conscious .

Who told you that evolution is a random process? Bible school?

KingEbukasBlog:
Your compulsive need to mention the bible in this argument shows you are definitely on the losing side . Interaction here is a proof nature is functional not conscious .

Nature is not aware of its activities , that's why humans can be obliterated and intelligent life may not emerge again. The universe can run down and fail to exist . It cannot account for its actions .

It cannot think that's why its activities are chance-dependent , random and chaotic .

Your god is the Bible one, don't disown him now.

Nature is composed of everything. Would you consider your activities to be chance dependent and random?

Scholar8200:
Under the same terms as Pharaoh's?

Far worse terms. You know me, I'm already a cynic and therefore I suspect that the whole slavery thing was in fact a systematic campaign of ped.ophilia. Pale men, in their attempt to replicate the culture of ancient Rome, kidnapped young African boys, girls, and babies with sex in mind. The only thing keeping the African males from uniting in rebellion is the foolish Jewish book which was handed out to each of the child r.ape victims.

Slavery in the American South
O Lord, O my Lord!
O my great Lord keep me from sinking down.
— From a slave song
No issue has more scarred our country nor had more long-term effects than slavery. When we celebrate American freedom, we must also be mindful of the long and painful struggle to share in those freedoms that faced and continue to face generations of African Americans. To understand the present, we must look to the past.
bhmwashingtonfarmer
A painting depicts George Washington and workers on his plantation. (Wikimedia Commons)

Buying and Selling Slaves

Before the Civil War, nearly 4 million black slaves toiled in the American South. Modem scholars have assembled a great deal of evidence showing that few slaves accepted their lack of freedom or enjoyed life on the plantation. As one ex-slave put it, “No day dawns for the slave, nor is it looked for. It is all night — night forever.” For many, the long night of slavery only ended in death.
In 1841, a bounty hunter kidnapped Solomon Northup, a free black man from Saratoga, New York, on the pretext that he was a runaway slave from Georgia. When the bounty hunter sold him into slavery, Northup lost his family, his home, his freedom, and even his name.
Solomon Northup was taken to New Orleans, Louisiana, where he was put into a “slave pen” with other men, women, and children waiting to be sold. In “Twelve Years a Slave,” a narrative that Northup wrote after he regained his freedom, the citizen of New York described what it was like to be treated as human property:
Freeman [the while slave broker] would make us hold up our heads, walk briskly back and forth, while customers would feel of our heads and arms and bodies, turn us about, ask us what we could do, make us open our mouths and show our teeth.... Sometimes a man or woman was taken back lo the small house in the yard, stripped, and inspected more minutely. Scars upon a slave’s back were considered evidence of a rebellious or unruly spirit, and hurt his sale.
By law, slaves were the personal property of their owners in all Southern states except Louisiana. The slave master held absolute authority over his human property as the Louisiana law made clear: “The master may sell him, dispose of his person, his industry, and his labor; [the slave] can do nothing, possess nothing, nor acquire anything but what must belong to his master.”
Slaves had no constitutional rights; they could not testify in court against a white person; they could not leave the plantation without permission. Slaves often found themselves rented out, used as prizes in lotteries, or as wagers in card games and horse races.
Separation from family and friends was probably the greatest fear a black person in slavery faced. When a master died, his slaves were often sold for the benefit of his heirs. Solomon Northup himself witnessed a sorrowful separation in the New Orleans slave pen when a slave buyer purchased a mother, but not her little girl:
The child, sensible of some impending danger, instinctively fastened her hands around her mother’s neck, and nestled her little head upon her bosom. Freeman [the slave broker] sternly ordered [the mother] to be quiet, but she did not heed him. He caught her by the arm and pulled her rudely, but she clung closer to the child. Then with a volley of great oaths he struck her such a heartless blow, that she staggered backward, and was like to fall. Oh! How piteously then did she beseech and beg and pray that they not be separated.
Perhaps out of pity, the buyer did offer to purchase the little girl. But the slave broker refused, saying there would be “piles of money to be made of her” when she got older.

http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history-month/slavery-in-the-american-south

lordnicklaus:
Concerning the earth being 6,000 years old, the calculations are just assumptions. No one knows how long a day took during the creation.

How long did it take to create the snake? Or the cockroach?

Scholar8200:
Indeed, when a man's cup of iniquity is full, God may decide any mode of executing Judgement. We are talking here of one that enslaved Israel under murderous, criminally rigorous terms to the point of killing babies!

Were Africans not slaves in the US for 400 years? These Jews have r.aped your brain with their tribalism, except this time it's not Igbo vs Yoruba, but Jews vs the whole world.

Amberon11:
perhaps ifeness or weah96 has a good explanation.

For the bird lady? I can only hope that her life was spared by the mob.

KingEbukasBlog:
1. Consciousness is basically self awareness .

a. Is nature aware of its activities ?
b. What part of nature is its consciousness contained in ? / What exactly is responsible for nature's consciousness

2. Your argument deviates totally from the generally accepted philosophical proposition for the existence of consciousness - Cogito ergo sum, I think , therefore I am . Does nature think ?

Nature is aware, at least segments of it. Consciousness is the result of anatomy, anatomy is organized according to the discretion of micro subatomic particles interacting with one another.

If you like, call it chance or Providence, that's your business. What you cannot do is try to defend your holy book because it is a lie. The source of the universe never spoke to bronze age Jews.

Caucasians are rapidly removing the concepts of Bible god and Quran god from the minds of their young people. "White" countries are experiencing a new wave of reason, young people are embracing the freedom to question blind belief.

On the other hand, there has NEVER been this much religion in Africa. And the GULF in INFRASTRUCTURE and TECHNOLOGY has never been wider.

It's the plague of the collective time wasting disease
that is organized religion.

princecharles100:
,,,, thanks for your time, can you please send me your contact information if you really don't mind, will really appreciate it

Will do in a moment. Check your email in a couple of hours.

KingEbukasBlog:
The universe is composed of independent constituents . They can function on their own like the sun , moon , stars , earth , man . Nature is just the totality of these independent constituents . Just one of these independent constituent is conscious does not make the universe conscious .

Man's toe nails , ears , eyes are not independent . Basically , the brain is responsible for man's conscious ; so if man dies his consciousness dies with him . If humanity is obliterated will nature still be conscious ?

Nature , according to your belief , is blindly creating things . Everything was not done with purpose , it was not intended to be - resulted from random , chaotic , and chance-dependent processes . So if it creates conscious life by accident again , it could obliterate it . And conscious life may never emerge again .

Because nature's evolution is random , chaotic and chance-dependent therefore it is not conscious .Nature is not aware of its activities , that self-awareness means its conscious , but it lacks that . Evolution has no goal or direction - unconscious .

The reiterations are becoming banal .

You're all over the place. First, you say that the Sun is independent, without realizing that it is the Sun's relationship with empty space which allows us, and it, to remain in orbit. Nothing is independent in the universe. Like the human body, the anatomical parts of the universe work in tandem. Birds need room to fly around and nitrogen and oxygen need space to occupy. You see, all of those items have one thing in common, they are all composed of this same spirit particle once you break down their units.

Now let's address my beliefs that you love to bring up. At no point did I tell you that everything occurred by chance. All I'm saying is that Bronze age Jews did not speak to the creator of the universe and the Bible is not sanctioned by the creator.

Remember my analogy about a time watch that we both find on the street while taking a stroll together (no homo). Using common sense, it would be safe to assume that the watch was assembled by a human being like ourselves or a robot. What we both can not know, is the precise identity of the watchmaker. What is his or her name, how old is he/she, how tall is he/she, where do they live? We can only assume that a human being(s) is the author because that is all the evidence we would have at that moment.

Now, if you choose to make some additional assumptions, they must be grounded in similar logic. Just as we assumed a human designer based on our prior knowledge of the watch making process, we must use a similar line of logic to add extra assumptions. You could recognize the pattern of the serial number, for example, and use a hypothetical knowledge of the manufacturer's design process, to tell me that it was made in Stockholm. But you would still be required to satisfactorily show me how you acquired that information.
So you see, my beliefs are very simple. The universe sprung from a Source, a subatomic spirit particle, which can disguise itself as absolutely nothing. That's why all the calculations and models keep showing that we came from nothing. Until we can isolate this particle at CERN, the information on the table cannot infer intent.

There is order to the universe, as well as disorder. However, it's true that everything works in tandem, even the f.eces that is discharged from my a.nus is a valuable commodity to something somewhere, creature or plant. One may then choose to believe that our parent particle planned all of this with direct intent. That's fine. It's your beliefs, they are grounded in honesty. However, don't quote from a book and then shy away from presenting your evidence when I question you. You can never defend a good lie under the proper scrutiny. So what makes you think that a terrible lie, like "god told bronze age Hebrews" will survive?

You are living a lie, otherwise, even the diehard anti-deist atheists would have cowered under your arguments. The Bible was a very clever Illuminati plot with the primary intention being to make African people waste time. Africa lags behind every continent in every department, but p-enis size. We are kings of the big p-enis. Nigeria has had some of the brightest humans to ever walk, but take a look at the infrastructure? I know Nigerians who are scary smart in mathematics. I know others who put fear in Caucasian professors. What is it? It's the time wasting. Collective time wasting. That's why I've decided to devote my life to reversing that trend for the future generation of Nigerian babies.

KingEbukasBlog:
You have not proven nature is conscious . You just asserted it is because man is conscious ... simple !

Bro, you just told me that you consider the entire universe to be nature. Are you trying to renege on that acknowledgement?

The universe is a composite of different things and creatures. Human beings form a part of that composite. Human beings are conscious. So it stands to reason that the universe has portions that possess consciousness.

KingEbukasBlog:

There is no proof to this , you asserted the latter part of your comment because you feel nature is conscious . Everything here are suppositions . Guy , you know who has the superior argument here .

The other purveyor claimed dirt has life just to prove that nature is conscious - if that is not ludicrous , I dont know what to call it .

There is no proof of what?

KingEbukasBlog:
So what's your point

Knowing your god's will is pointless because the will is set in stone.

Found way more atheists in my area than usual. I live in the US where drug dealers and armed robbers believe in god. However, in my neighborhood, I know at least 4 other atheists. One is an African American male with a 9th grade education. The word evolution sounds like Greek to him. But he still knows BS when he sees it.

Femiwilli:
That you believe in God does not change the fact that hell awaits u for denying God

U will remember this your f.oolish comment on your death bed. Keep forgetting that everyone dies in the end.

Joagbaje:
Thanks for the compliment at least you believe there a real pastor for there to be fake pastor



If he failed only this time it means you believe he had been right other times too?

You know there is God brother . Stop denying . The witness of God is in your spirit eitheryou accept it or not . Even nature reveals existence .

It's only a fool that will believe otherwise .

Psalms 14:1
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. .

You are not a fool .

What is God to you? Is this the same god who talked to Israeli refugees millennia ago or the God from which all things emerged? You are here quoting Bible which can only mean that your idea of God is a kind of being that gives messages to his tribal oracle. That god doesn't exist.

KingEbukasBlog:
Weah , what do you when you get a plan from your boss on what to do in an office

After they'll tell you that they' operate in logic and reason '

My boss will share his plan with me. He doesn't know if I will execute the plan. That's because he's not all powerful and doesn't know the end from the beginning.

Your god on the other hand has a will which is accompanied by a plan set in motion before your time. The will is set in stone, even Jesus acknowledged that when he was tempted to flee in the bush.

KingEbukasBlog:
The universe , our physical world , life

Agreed, humans are a part of the universe. So the reality suggests that portions of the universe exhibit sentience while others do not. Is it not so? Just like your body doesn't carry consciousness in your an)us. You can only think with a small portion of it. Even if humans went extinct, nature would still possess many alternatives and ways to manage stimuli.