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DeepSight:
What does biblical innerancy have to do with Theism as opposed to Atheism? ? ?

You are basically saying that the fact that one book - the Bible - contains flaws - shows that the creationist worldview is irrational and the atheistic worldview is rational. Now, how rational does such an argument sound to you?

GooseBaba:
I guess it depends on the brand/denomination. A Church that frowns on worldly things, alcohol is seen as the devil's tool.

And back then pastors preached alot about salvation they were not rich nor did they preach about riches. All they had was their word and their character. But as a kid, these are the quality one emulates. But when someone you placed on such high moral compass falls short. It chips away that respect or fear one has for them.

But when they say do as say, not as i do. As a kid I saw biblical chancing.. This was way before I knew the book for what it is. A control mechanism.

P0intBlank:
One question for the logical thinkers: Have you ever seen an intelligently designed product that has no maker? If no, why do u think Man or the universe so intricately crafted would have no creator?

PastorAIO:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juracán

GooseBaba:
I remember playing soccer as a young dude. You know when soccer don dey sweet enter body. Then you hear go in and wash up." get ready for bible studies. The annoyance...

Grabs bible proceeds to bible study. At the study you feel so alive and filled with the holyspirit the uncle leading the study literally had an halo hovering over his head. As far as I was concern. Then you go home feeling recharged.

The circle continues, until one day. You leave soccer, wash up. carry bible. Get to the location and find out that uncle has impregnated the top star in bible verses. The shock got my head spinning. My youthful naiveté was hereby violated.

I remember how they kept throwing around 1st corinthians or Matt 18. Because young bible star was in her early teens and uncle was in his mid twenties. The way the elders were blaming the devil got me worried.

Of course, the next uncles and aunties that led any bible study had no more halos. Every one became a suspect of backsliding and falling inside Aunty sarah's honey or mistakenly sitting on uncle john's banana out of wedlock.

asalimpo:
The idea of a talking being who writes books seems so odd - you , intelligent rationalists, have to reject the idea!!


And propose that the human intelligence that makes him capable of authoring books came from
imbecilic dumber life forms who came from a cataclysmic volatile nothingness! and that sounds soooooo smart to your intelligent rational minds!!!!

Kay17:
So when PastorAIO said goats were a product of Nature, you seem to protest absolutely against it rather than stating your proviso -- guided Nature.

asalimpo:
Man is always re-writing his constitution. He's always rethinking things through and reclassifying things.

DeepSight:
How is being religious irrational and how is being atheist rational?

Can you show the specific thought development that leads one to atheism such that you can sustain the claim that atheism represents rationality?

Is religion limited to imported religion?

DeepSight:
Is the creationist view unique to or exclusively derived from stories from the bible?

In particular, what does the story of the virgin birth have to do with the Creationist view as against an atheistic view?

jayriginal:
Flowing from the above, anything can be defined into existence and be exempted from explanation.

lordnicklaus:
I understand..... But what if things happen for a purpose?

PastorAIO:
Very good point. Everyone is obviously referring to something different when they say nature. UyiIredia has called nature something that only destroys.

That actually raises some interesting points.

God creates. Nature destroys. Nature has presumably being continually destroying since Genesis. Without God's continual creation would the world still be here? Or did God create once and for all, and Nature has been destroying since but hasn't got to the end of destroying everything.

HCpaul:
Scientists have not discovered all the realm that exist in the universe. They have not seen the end of the universe.
So what gives them the assurance that God or heaven did not exist?

UyiIredia:
I'm the one to be asking the questions. U said Nature creates. Theres no evidence Nature does such.

UyiIredia:
I have never seen nature create but I see nature destroy created things a lot.

UyiIredia:
Can u imagine ? A goat is the evidence that nature made a goat. One hardly gets to see such asinine reasoning.

lordnicklaus:
This is for real. There are things I have seen in this life that still makes me hold on to the belief that there is a God.

SexyStrawberry:
i can't say if u are trying to confuse me the more here.................honestly, I'm lost!

SexyStrawberry:
but then again, those who practice voodoo, where the hell do their powers come from?

Oma307:
I have this believe that God exist, owing to the fact if he dare reveal everything about himself to man, we will take him for granted so is a mystery to man.

finofaya:
A self existent thing should be the explanation for its own existence. Such a thing does require explanation, with the qualification that it should explain itself. It is not explained by any other thing. If you say God is self existent and requires no explanation then you don't have a concrete grasp of the concept of self existence. There are in fact many explanations for a self existent God and they are rejected by atheists.

When you say that God is self existent you are making two claims; that there is something which is self existent and that this thing is a deity. The latter does not follow from the former so it is hardly an open and shut matter to say that God is self existent.

Maximum83:
In the old days, books were very popular with little or no digital format. But Now I discovered that many of those books are now available in E - format. Even in churches today pastors now read Bible from tablets

As I am typing this morning, I just read my daily devotional from my Tecno camon C8 phone.
My question is, are our smart devices replacing printed books

asalimpo:
David, got 100 foreskins, from the philistines. [size=18pt]He circumcised 100 men forcefully.[/size]
How is that cutting off 100 pe.nises? Just wanna exaggerate ?

asalimpo:
David, got 100 foreskins, from the philistines. [size=18pt]He circumcised 100 men forcefully.[/size]
How is that cutting off 100 pe.nises? Just wanna exaggerate ?

asalimpo:
hmm... you're still circumlocuting.
Go and learn how to formulate and present a sound argument otherwise you are not fit reasoning with.
You've already shifted the focus from intelligent designer to talking intelligent designer.
Totally irrelevant.
Next, you're trying to throw up a smoke screen by throwing insulting jabs - "are you mad".

If you have nothing to say, hang up and go to bed or do something else.

asalimpo:
First, the issue was on the whether an intelligent being designed life or not.
Talking to 'god' is irrelevant. The parallel has been drawn. All complex things you find on earth are designed by intelligence - cars, phone, computers, etc
so by the same parallel, your atheistic evolutionistic stance is illogical and unreasonable.

asalimpo:
If you dont care, then you are longer persuaded by truth/logic but personal opinion.
Which means you aint persuaded to disbelieve, but you choose to disbelieve first, then make up arguments to support your decision.

asalimpo:
Nobody thinks it's a theory except evolutionist. By real life parallels, any complex well designed thing,
is the product of intelligent thoughtful maker. So, that parallel applies to life itself.
Two, no inanimate thing exhibits intelligence only sentient beings do.
It's as illogical to attribute the intelligence behind life to inanimate object/phenomena as it is to attribute
intelligent manufacturing to non humans in this world.