paschu: Well, it's like you got me wrong entirely. [size=18pt]When I said he won't explain himself to anyone, I was not talking about explaining his personality, preferences or artributes. .[/size]
Bro, he's not explaining his personality to anyone, except his bronze age Hebrew biographers.
Chukzyfcb: You must have checked yur weight with a woozy eyes! You cannot lose 5kg in 2days except you exercised for like 8hours stretch like you did a marathon.
asalimpo: No evolutionists would ever believe that any dayto day instrument/thing they use evolved , even if they dont know who the maker is: Cars, computers, bulbs, knives, etc. But carrying the same principle over to something more complex than any man made gadget they've ever held, and their reasoning breaks down. They call you a fool for even daring to think, [size=18pt]a talking[/size] intelligence designed complex orderly symmetric life forms. they argue to persuade you that a mistake created it all!!
Nobody cares what you choose to call the energy source of the initial singularity. You think it's intelligent, so what? Good theory, I say.
However, don't tell me that you speak to it, or that someone spoke to it and recorded the conversation for me.
That claim requires evidence which NONE here can provide or has provided ever!! Elijah murdered prophets who couldn't perform magic, but relied on their tongues and fingers to type. Yet you're speaking to the source of the universe. You have so little an opinion of the source, that's why you rely on your mouth to talk.
DrLazDevitan: The beginning of life is never the beginning of life!
If what you have seen is life in it nascency,then it is just a preview! The continuous chain of Causality has provides no ends to the undue beginning of principalities occassion to substance.
Life is substance,the principal substance has no reflexive conduit to the material spike effect.
Translation. George Orwell must be turning over in his grave.
All the scientists have to do now is inspire the microbe to write a book and share it with his friends.
"We don't want microbes to leave the lab after 7 pm. Microbes shouldn't eat sugary products. No mast(u)ration in microbe land. Microbes shouldn't kill other microbes."
mztakayswitch3: [size=18pt]christians folks like you are also arguing wid u on d thread[/size] There is nothing lyk trinity of God and there will neva be..As a muslim one thing I knw is der is only one God(i.e Allah) and the Jesus you claim is ur God the son is Allah's prophet
And yet the holy spirit is speaking to all of them.
KingEbukasBlog: Your existence is the "magic" . Your abilities as a human is the "magic" . Is it difficult to see that ?
Mad person. See what I mean? What happened to answering by fire again?
The Baal followers were more honest human beings than you. They even tried self flagellation, cutting their skin, in an attempt to bring out their magic.
Every honest human being understands the nature of the challenge. Magic must come out or you STFU. If you don't have magic, STFU.
KingEbukasBlog: Nothing is not talking with me - it can't communicate .
Well , the Holy Spirit ministers - make revelations of the obscure , teaches , guides , offers solutions - to the people of God . The knowledge he provides is esoteric - you need to understand that .
Did it teach you how to log into your Nairaland account and type rubbish, or did you teach yourself?
You're a stone cold liar, the truth cannot be found in your person. Let your 3 gods speak for themselves.
If you can create time, you should be able to open your mouth. Hahaha.
You remind me of that Elijah and Baal story, except your own god is Baal. All you do is run your mouth, day and night, talking talking talking.
KingEbukasBlog: At least mine talks and offers inspiration through which his word was penned down . Void-nothingness- is vacuous and unconscious , dead . It lacks the propensity to bring forth an intelligent conscious living being as you
Hahaha. Don't deceive yourself, nothing is talking to you. I can bet money.
KingEbukasBlog: So concisely , evolution of nature or life forms does not preclude the existence of a [size=18pt]TALKING, BOOK WRITING[/size] designer , it necessitates it . Isn't it obvious ?
GooseBaba: Interpret that thing you wrote in your ancestoral language...or else your pubes go begin quarrel with you..
Meanwhile, what does the 3 marafuvkers call themselves in your native language..
The three stooges can write a book but they cannot speak again. Kingebukasblog uses his big toe and intestines/guts to hear from them, but the message cannot reach NL.
All he knows is to write EVERYTHING like its the solution to the puzzle.
The same is true for almost all successful pastors everywhere. I see it a lot in the US as well, with televangelists who were born to American parents.
There's something about free money which inspires humans to enroll their family members in the free money hustle.
I know, because nature will prevail in the end. That's why the writer included that verse in the book, so that you won't do what the characters in the book did.
PastorAIO: Try reading and then THINKING about what he wrote. The thinking part is very important o!!
I read what he said and I've thought on it. Here's the understanding i've arrived at:
1)God dragged rabbits from a empty hat is a metaphor for Creation ex nihilo. Creation from nothing. If you refute this then you are saying that there is something, a raw material, that God created the world from.
2) Josh and Co say that God has emotions, consciousness and intelligence. Let us just take emotions first.
Imagine God before he created anything, chilling out in eternity and being infinitely infinite … bla bla poo. He's always been emotional because Emotions are a part of his attributes. Question is: What the heck was he emotional about? Was he happy that his team won the league? That is his nonexistent team in the nonexistent league. Was he happy that Asherah invited him to dinner one evening? That is Nonexistent ashram to a nonexistent dinner. Was he sad that he might miss the dinner because he can't get rid of his incessant flatulence and he doesn't want to go there and embarrass himself?
Emotions are directed at something. If nothing exists but a being then how can that being be emotional.
Intelligence is even worse. Intelligence can be seen as the ability to solve a problem. How can you be intelligent when there is nothing to be intelligent about?
So we find a description of God which paints him very much like humans in his attributes, but human attributes make sense for human beings but they do not make sense for an infinite being.
The very idea of defining something that is infinite is so abysmally oxymoronic.
Lovely insight. I just wanna know where the god lived before he embarked on his creation spree. They tell me that he lived in infinity, which must a nice suburb in the nothing.
MoneypassGod: Guy u need to take a chill pill, its a free world and every man is entitled to his or her path to follow. Dont let religion use u and create unnecessary enemity btw u and ur fellows.
asalimpo: By the theory of evolution and how the world began, the rise of man to become the dominant creature should never have occured. so, I hearmyself . This is a hole in evolution theory.
Someone like you will never understand evolution because you approach it with the preexisting belief that the Bible is the inerrant dictation from the source of the universe.
There is no more room to grow without splitting your psyche into different personalities.
asalimpo: This is your philosophy of life. Again, this is a question religion answers. But that doesnt in any address the question at hand. Which is, random chance and chaos could not have predetermined one specie to be far ahead of the rest. mathematically, it is impossible(soft talk for highly improbable).
How can randomness predetermine anything? Do you even hear yourself? What you're doing is defending the Bible, not searching for answers.
Why should you? You already know what happens when human beings die like animals.
Muafrika2: I agree with your observations about the vanity of human existence.
Even Solomon the wisest agrees....
Ecc 2: 9 So I was great, and increased more than all that were before me in Jerusalem: also my wisdom remained with me. 10 And whatsoever mine eyes desired I kept not from them, I withheld not my heart from any joy; for my heart rejoiced in all my labour: and this was my portion of all my labour. 11 Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought, and on the labour that I had laboured to do: and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there was no profit under the sun.
Some wisdom in this atheist
I watch a lot of old Shaolin kung fu movies. Check out this white boy on YouTube called Louis C.K. He does a funny, and less ominous, rendition of that same realization. It's a 1 minute video.
plaetton: I think this might be relevant in this thread.
It is about the discovery of a fish that walks like land vertebrates. Perhaps a link that shows the evolutionary transition from marine to Amphibian or vertebrate life.
Excuse the earlier digression about dead people, but this walking fish would need a respiratory apparatus to survive a prolonged land journey. Maybe I read it too quickly, but I didn't see anything about the similarities between the genes of the gill structure and the reptilian lungs.
It's a false alarm. A fish who suddenly finds itself stranded on dry land has more immediately pressing issues than just mobility. They would need to address that issue later.
JackBizzle: Yesterday, I could not stop having a sheepish smile on my face as I drove home. What happened to me was a complete surprise. Here is the story; ================== I ran all over Lagos mainland looking for petrol to buy in my car. From 6 am I went from Magodo to Ikeja to Idimu but no luck- all the stations selling petrol were full with long queues. I was depressed and alarmed- my tank was almost empty of fuel and the car could die at any moment. I wandered the streets of Idimu defeated and emasculated. I was just waiting for my car to die.
I got tired of wandering aimlessly and I stopped at an empty petrol station. I sat down thinking of my life and why I was born a Nigerian. I wandered why I made the decision to leave Europe and relocate to this bastaard country. Then I took a look the the petrol station and thought if there was a God, there would be people at this filling station and I would be the first to get petrol. Lo and behold, not up to a minute passed before the station manager and pump attendants came out to start selling petrol!
I was the first person to buy petrol and I bought 15,000 naira woth of petrol in my car and some jerrycans. I was so happy that I bought so much petrol. But then again, did God answer my prayers?
Yes, did God answer an atheist's prayer? If God did answer my prayers, which God is it? I have a sticker on my car from the catholic church, so it could be Yahweh. I have a keyholder with the spaghetti monster (God of the pasta religion), so it could be Him. I bought my car from a muslim who said that the car would take me on special journeys "InshAllah", so it could be Allah.
So, here I am sitting in front of my laptop, ps4, hd tv with only my boxers on wondering which God blessed me.
You blessed yourself. The overwhelming majority of people in Lagos, with money, will manage to buy fuel in the end. You just gotta wait.
Instead of waiting in line, you decided to burn half a tank searching. Your search was rewarded. [size=16pt] Next time try to purchase fuel in Lagos and don't carry any money. [/size]I will pick the god for you myself.
Joshthefirst: unfortunately whether you value it or not this quite unhygienic worldview with the shi.t king exists in your head. It is unhealthy, and seems to be giving you fits of inexplicable rage.
I agree. But it's a burden I'm willing to carry if it prevents you from flinging your sh.it around unchallenged.
Your supreme ruler is a sh.itty conjecture, yet you're here seeking enrollment in your manic delusion. Your own sorrow must be immeasurably greater than mine.
asalimpo: In other words, man got his inspiration from nature. But the simplicity of nature belies its complexity, going by the amount of brainpower it has taken man to mimic the works of nature. "we are not really going nowhere", that view is informed by your atheism. Why does man of all species derive great satisfaction and have great drive to achieve all the greatness we've witnessed over time? Man dominates the air, the sea, the land. he is driven to overcome and learn and grow. He has this nature inborn in him. He wants to conquer and rule and direct his destiny. He isnt comfortable co existing with limitation. Y? given that the atheistic world view is hopelessness,meaningless and choas? Y dont other creatures share similar drives?
What greatness? Our primary adversary is death, so much so, that societies erect traditions of lies like organized religion to cope with it.
Our appreciation for innovation is borne out of a materialistic worldview, with financial profit as the reward.
Until we find a way to address the common enemy, death, I say we're just killing time here like the rest of the animals.
Yea we can communicate in real time across vast distances. Yes, we can enter a box and control it to move rapidly over the ground. But where are we going? If it's not too look for food to eat, it's pointless.
Our consciousness is the only bright thing about us, because it possesses potential. We can control what we see, feel, hear, and smell by making alterations to our consciousness. Animals can't do that.
Joshthefirst: you definitely have a very serious problem for you to relegate him to the soiled toilet paper opinion.
You have a serious problem when you imply he doesn't exist and is only in my head then go on to claim he's also in your head albeit in the very dirty section. Unfortunately I and King will continue to talk to him, so you'd better get your head cleaned up and carefully pretend he doesn't exist without giving yourself away so easily next time.
I don't value a worldview in which a soiled piece of tissue is your supreme ruler and my adversary. My beef is not with sh.it.
Others will have a discussion with you about it. I won't.