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OgaMadam:
Evidently you haven't met God.

Have you?

vooks:
It is not MIND boggling nor is it STRANGEST.....it is sheer lunacy
That 'something' without matter,space or time is exactly NOTHING

I've heard quantum physics described by worse names.

vooks:
I think you are being dumb on purpose. It's like one can't be an atheist if they are a scientist

Are you literate? Did you miss this?
An interesting idea is that the universe could be spontaneously created from nothing, but no rigorous proof has been given.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.1207v1.pdf


How can you be helped if you lack simple comprehension skills?

Scientists can be atheists, but you must KNOW this somehow. They never mentioned religious affiliation, so until you can show me how you know they're atheists, I'll assume that you are making it up.

But it is not nothing. It's the metastable false vacuum. Nothing is a sensationalist term that draws attention to the problem.

rev2214:
Please if there is any pastor in the house pray that those expecting Christ to come will not miss rapture. He is not coming for those that are not expecting him. Jesus is coming back whether we like it or not.

But you can meet him early. Join the armed forces and request to be posted on the nearest front line. Why are you waiting here in misery?

Sunglass20:
What of the miracles am enjoying as a result of the 'hypnotism'... What do you call that? My dear, if Na juju him dey use Wey dey work for me like this, I will continue to use that juju o. In fact I need more o.

It's not juju, you have even greater power in simple awareness. But you choose to remain blinded, that's why you keep falling down in front of him without even coming into contact.

Falling down inebriated is NEVER a good SIGN of anything. That man could do anything to you while you're in your sheepish trance, even poison you.

DeathStroke007:
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Go and do research on terrorism.. Check the stat of people who carried it out, people affected and the aftermath..




Like I said earlier, always think before you Post

I must commend you for agreeing that Muslims have monopolized [size=18pt]modern[/size] terrorism. Others used to do it and then their children/grandchildren/great grandchildren changed the evil practice.

You guys saw an opportunity. As the saying goes, when one door closes another one opens.

Richirich713:
Lol , check this video of Richard Dawkins on "literally" nothing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPlTsWFYBIM

Well for something with no space occupying properties, and without matter, and no time demonstrating properties, to have been the source of the Big Bang is mind boggling. Because it is technically NOTHING. It's like the SMALLEST POSSIBLE particle POSSIBLE which isn't really a thing anymore.

Although that is not the STRANGEST thing I've read in quantum physics by far.

DeathStroke007:
#laughing# this isn't ignorance.. Its stupidity..




Your business claim in religion concerning prophet Muhammad (saw).... If Islam were business or created by Muhammad... It won't be Islam.. It will be muhammanity... Like other religion named after their founder.... Mind you, Muhammad (saw) was illiterate..



Muhammad (saw) didn't talk to anyone or Allah.. Allah communicated with him through angel jubril.. That's how Quran was revealed..



Christians and their miracle claim... Is their no miracle in Hindu, traditional religion, messianic, Judaism and others?




Its not that you are ignorant.. You are stupid ni..



Always think before you Post

How do you know that Mohammed didn't make up the whole story? For example, someone who is making up a story like that will tell you one or two things:

1. Only him can talk to this Jubril, for some created reason. Nobody else can

2. Or the message don complete finish, coincidentally he just happened to be the last messenger.

What they won't do is accept a human to human challenge. Mohammed is not here to defend himself, so you will have to assume those duties in his stead.

Is there any revelation in the Quran which serves as irrefutable proof of Mohammed speaking to an alien? I use alien to refer to a living thing that doesn't live on earth.

My girl and I killed this one a few months ago. We didn't use a cutlass. We used wooden boards and then I drove over it.

I first severed the c-spine completely using one of the boards, and then posed for photographs.

Snakes bite humans out of fear. They really need that venom to eat food.

Cutlass is too short for that Steph Curry reflex strike. You need long big things, even a chair or a bench.

Or get a gun.

I will accept Islam only to prevent you from removing my head.

But since you cannot remove my head for now , I say, long live Donald Trump.

DeathStroke007:
[size=18pt]Revelation of Holy Books isn't a new thing.
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What you really asking is the authenticity of Qur'an..



Your answer is, GO AND READ IT.




Its when we muslims read Bible we found out all the trash in it.. And we disbelief in it..





Go read Qur'an and come back with questions

Your answer confirmed my suspicions.

I don't blame you. I blame the Jews and their creatures Christians. They made up the TALKING GOD organized religion business, so Mohammed said why not make up his own.

You know deep down that Mohammed didn't talk to anyone, or if he did, he did so using strong drugs, but you're afraid to admit it. In your defense, your very life depends on it.

But don't go throwing rocks if you inhabit a glass house. I've seen Christians TRY to heal people. All you guys do is remove heads and launch kamikaze assaults.

My brother, they've provided you other verses where Jesus used a personal pronoun(s). Now could you please provide a response to my question about Allah commissioning a book?

I respect your right to stay alive and I won't bother you any further if you choose to invoke it.

DeathStroke007:
#laughing# if it were another person that said Quran has fault .. I would be eager to hear.. But you.. Annunaki...#laughing#.. Only someone who doesn't know your level of IQ will listen to your argument

Allah of the Quran is all powerful, invisible, inaudible, and immaterial. How do you know that the Quran was commissioned by him?
I mean, apart from your head still being connected your neck in THIS life, how do you know for sure that Allah spoke to someone if neither you nor your brother has been contacted?

Sunglass20:
They don't even touch me before I fall under God's power.

They are professional hypnotists. You can find them in most major cities in the US working in that field. It doesn't work on skeptics, only people who already have a predilection for sheepism.

Essentially what they do is use your childish brain against you somehow. The same brain that made you think god wrote a book and came down in the form of a Jewish man. They can isolate that childish brain from your adult brain that knows about rent money and deadlines, and visa problems. And then they don't need to even touch you, your brain has been arrested in infancy.

vooks:
They are atheists

No they're not. You're making it up. One is a science writer, robotics mostly, the others are Chinese physicists (probably all from the same village).

They're still NOT saying that something came from NOTHING. All they did was provide several reasons why the Wheeler-Dewitt equation is possible. From one of your blog links, I believe the first one:

According to Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, quantum fluctuations in the metastable false vacuum – a state absent of space, time or matter – can give rise to virtual particle pairs. Ordinarily these pairs self-annihilate almost instantly, but if these virtual particles separate immediately, they can avoid annihilation, creating a true vacuum bubble. The Wuhan team’s equations show that such a bubble has the potential to expand exponentially, causing a new universe to appear. All of this begins from quantum behavior and leads to the creation of a tremendous amount of matter and energy during the inflation stage.

(Note that as stated in this paper, the metastable false vacuum has “neither matter nor space or time,” but is a form of wavefunction referred to as “quantum potential.” While most of us wouldn’t be inclined to call this “nothing,” physicists do refer to it as such.)

It's up to you to understand that nothing must be something and they tell you that it is. Or ask questions if your teacher chooses to use that word in class.

OgaMadam:
Joel Osteen finished it for me when he rarely talked about the Cross and the death of Christ.

Pretty sure he's only a deist. He tries not to tell lies while up there but he must read the Bible on stage. So I can understand his facial expression.

KingEbukaNaija:
Weah96 , you are becoming an embodiment of confusion . A quintessential confused atheist , you dont know what you want . Today God does not exist , tomorrow you want the God that does not exist to appear to you and communicate with you . In that Thomas example you always give , he showed willingness to accept evidence that's why he stayed with the others in that room on that day . If he had disbelieved and mocked the people who told him of their experience , he would have missed the chance and then his unbelief would have led to a shameful end - even as a disciple of Christ.

God exists means that the universe has a point of origin.
However, atheists don't call it god, they use more precise diction.

I was willing to make a concession only to simplify the matter for your pea sized thinking organ.

winner01:
Somehow he knows that this origin is not blind and mindless but does not want to admit that the Creator of the world is the Supreme God.

I will wait for science to discover a universal and replicable answer.

What I won't do is accept your EMPTY theory that this thing was a Jewish man who left his body, commissioned a book, and still speaks to you today in 2016. Are you kidding?

If you can use your mouth to tell me something like that, you should have the decency to back it up by providing evidence LIKE THE BIBLE CHARACTERS provided in the Bible stories.

frank317:
[size=18pt]Lol... We have been asking u since ur baby days on this forum to defend u suggestion. [/size]Are u so daft that u didn't know this all along? Prove ur God exist, haven't u heard this before? Block head then, that's what are.

Something is wrong with that boy. I think his brain is buffering like a streaming video on slow Wi-Fi.

Can you imagine? He now says that we have never asked him to prove that he speaks to the universe, abi, the oga who created it.

He must KNOW IT ALL, RIGHT NOW , even if he has to stomach a fabrication.

KingEbukaNaija:
The atheist claims that the God-possibility is not possible - how is that rational ?

If an atheist is logical he would acknowledge the God-possibility and then ask the proposer to defend his 'suggestion'

It's irrational because:

1. All you do here is talk, talk, talk. If your god is invisible and inaudible to human ears and eyes but it's talking to you and white people, then you should bring proof. No proof of the talking deity provided.

2. The Bible states that you should show me the magic, that big magic is nothing for you. In other words, all this empty rhetoric means that you don't even read the Bible.

3. Atheists cannot DISprove that your invisible, inaudible, and immaterial TALKING god DOES NOT exist. No human can DISprove that there's NOT an invisible, inaudible, and immaterial BUSHMEAT who created the universe and talks to me.

At the end, it all boils down to honesty. Atheists are honest people to rebel against force-fed fabrications in this manner.

You cannot be an atheist, just because you tell LIES as a second nature.

KingEbukaNaija:
Winner01 , this young man is truly confused . He gets to that very point where the Logic of God and Everything is palpable but somehow it eludes him and he returns to the state of confusion

Be quiet. You have nothing else to say.

Every stage 4 cancer patient in a hospital of my choosing should have their tumors go into permanent remission.

KingEbukaNaija:
The question still remains :

Can you prove the universe needs no creator ?

And since then Johnydon22 , Frank317 , Weah96 ... have not provided any cogent rebuttals worth paying attention to .

I did this same thing on Twitter with atheists and they admitted there is no proof yet . Winner01 , actually white atheists reason differently and they are honest . Though some thought it was the BOP game I was playing . They even argued against themselves on theories too . But the deluded Nigerian ones dont understand that there is a disparity between Prove God does not exist and prove that the universe needs no creator .

Dear beloved Christian Friends DAY 4 is close by and they are still floundering between two different arguments - finding it difficult to extricate themselves from their shallow mindedness .

Who has read Stephen Hawking's : God was not needed to create the Universe

Does it mean proving God does not exist ?

Winner01 , the answer to whatever "proof" is in that video I posted . There is no proof the universe needs no creator . They are just blabbing and showing how they are bereft of reasoning

What is the point of the silly question? Do you not understand the atheist argument after everything I've been writing?


I don't care whether I was "created" or not. Atheism isn't concerned with that. As an atheist, all I'm saying is that there is no proof that a God exists. And there isn't.

Stop asking a question that has nothing to do with the argument.


There is evidence that the universe has an origin. We are the resulting creatures of said origin. If that is what you choose to call God, then we can agree that it exists.

But that's NOT what you're saying. Your own "God " writes books and talks to human beings. It doesn't exist.

johnydon22:
How many times have i taught you here that the burden of proof is on the claimant and not the person who doubts it .. Chai

Not to mention that his question is non biblical. That is no way to introduce "lost souls" to the Christ who lives inside of you and talks to your gut or heart.

The Bible anticipated skeptics like me and provided a recipe that, if followed correctly by its practitioners, should leave only fools demanding more evidence. Problem is, they cannot show me the magic.

How can someone claim to talk to the thing who is not made of matter and is invisible, and I'm supposed to take his word for it.

vooks:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/is-all-the-universe-from-nothing/
http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207

Atheism is a crutch for people who are afraid of the Light

You sabi dance oh. Did you not read my question? I said show me a human atheist who says that something comes from nothing.

Something comes from nothing. Show me an atheist on NL or on earth who says that. You are directing me to a blog post. Is the author an atheist?

vooks:
You are tying yourself in knots.
The difference between theists and atheists is not whether the universe had a beginning, but HOW it began. We all know it had a beginning.Perhaps you are ignorant of naturalism as well, in which case I will gladly educate you.
[size=18pt]The 'logician' atheist insists EVERYTHING started from NOTHING in and of itself.[/size]

Nothing? Show me one atheist on planet earth who claims or has stated that something came from NOTHING.

Please.

tonie123:
You are deaf and blind spiritually..... no be curse, lol

Even if they call, you no go hear the ring tone....lol

Here we go again. I've read the Bible stories. Humans were hearing the thing with normal ears and eyes. In Nigeria, humans need spirit ears and eyes. Na wa oh? I tire.

winner01:
Easy

For someone who has nothing to say, it's impressive how you make sh.it up, like your collection of toilet paper/Bible.

tonie123:
What's "tell the thing to call me"? I don't get

The thing you talk to, tell it to call me on my head phone. Hahaha. I meant the phone in my head.

tonie123:
Waiting for me? Do you know me before now?

Last conversation, was this morning..... when I woke up.

If you have a message for him, he too has a message for you..... if a thing of personal experience now, build a personal relationship with him and you can exchange messages for free, no airtime needed...

Lol

Tell the thing to call me. Can you do that or is it too much to ask?

KingEbukaNaija:
The wickedness that exudes from atheists . North Korea's president Kim Jong-Ung and his wickedness

North Koreans are not atheists. They just worship their own god.