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analice107:
So now your turn Jesus' words to be atheistic? Jesus says, wide is the road that leads to destruction, but narrow is the road that leads to everlasting life, (in him) and few will find it. So that saying now apply to atheism? Smh.

There are over 2 billion Christians. Christianity is a criterion for the United States presidency. Every candidate openly boasts of his faith in Jesus. Meanwhile, presidents are second only to pastors when it comes to telling lies.

Atheists are relegated to a lower caste, even though they are some of the most brilliant. In Nigeria, atheists are treated like HIV patients. This is doesn't seem like a wide road to me.

Following Jesus is the popular option.

analice107:
Hahahahahaha. Christianity is no longer the narrow road, but atheism? Hilarious.

Christianity narrow? There are girls who will let you smash them if only you tell them how much you love Jesus. They run from atheists.


Judging by cultural acceptance, ease of access, and numbers, Christianity is the wide road by far.

GooseBaba:
I told you from the onset that a creator does not have to be a diety...

Something is wrong with these lads, the same thing plaguing the BOKO 's and ISIS. They've been hypnotized.

One minute the universe was designed somehow. The next minute, this somehow designer actually speaks English, and doesn't want people to drink palm wine. Just like that.

From a general designer to an anglophone designer, to a designer who sends messages through pastors in Lagos. What a non sequitur! Chei!!!

analice107:
It's not me you are blackmailing. You are attempting to blackmail God or so to speak, by trying to paint the Most High in bad light using children. But your attempts are so weak, as you talk out of ignorance. At rapture, no child remains behind, so quit the blackmail already.

This makes no sense. I'm telling you that your god is imaginary. You're telling me that I'm blackmailing the imaginary god.

Oya, I hope that your one of your pastors sets you on fire this month. Hahaha.

kumakunta:
How old was Mary when she gave birth to christ?

You tell me.

OLAADEGBU:
Can you answer the OP or you don't understand the question?

You speak with God. Ask him if Christianity is correct. Tell other people to ask the God as well.


Is that do difficult to understand?

Annunaki:
Olodo, saudi arabia is not a theocracy but rather a monarchy contrary to islamic system of government even though it is an islamic country being governed by archaic sharia laws. The problem the saudi government has with islamic fundermentalist is that of legitimacy cause of the belief that they should be ruled by the most learned imam rather than by monarchs and this is why the saudi government is afraid of a powerful isis who practise islam in it's purest form and have a highly learned imam as their leader. The only other muslim country that practises theocracy is Iran were the ayatollah reigns supreme. Of course we know the shia led iran practise a purer form of islam than

what the impostor sunnis practice.

The constitution of the country is the Quran, my brother. Either they are a monarchy and the royals really, really, really, love Islam, or they are a theocracy with a few cosmetic differences.

kollected44:
Evidence you ask?

I am going to give just 2.

1. Have you studied the conception and development of a child from 0 - 9 months?

2. Take a couple of bean seeds, put them in a small hole in the ground, cover it (you don't even have to water them at all), wait for a couple of days, and watch them spring forth into life.

There are countless evidences of a Creator but these are just a few that I expect every thinking human being to marvel at.

I understand all the circuses that go on in religious circles today, but they don't negate the fact that there truly is a Creator and that you are accountable to Him.

Explain again how the creator and beans/conception are related? Do you need me to tell you what the argument is? I would be glad to oblige.

Which Jesus? These Jews have hypnotized my people.

kumakunta:
We have so many child rape cases carried out by pastors, but no one is coming out with any #tag. But a northerner commits any form of crime and Islam is quickly called out. You Hypocrisy won't let you make Heaven.

We the true Muslims know the truth and we stand by the truth,thats why we stand firm and never intimidated by what you hypocrites think.

Muslims have what we call institutionalized r.ape. Even the prophet was known to have married a minor. Minors do not have the capacity to make life changing decisions, as we all know.

The actions of the parent make it institutionalized. They agree to the r.ape.

Touch not my anointed.

Maybe we should allow the Jehovah's Witnesses front page access on Saturday.

Muslims can carry Friday. This guy can use Sundays to spread his propaganda efficiently.

Everyone else should follow Arsenal and Chelsea.

asalimpo:
you can't see the rays, but they're still physical phenomena. E.g radio waves, though not felt or seen can be monitored by devices that render them discernable by our senses. So they are still physical.
Science deals only with the physical or the observable.
For spiritual things however, physical devices can't capture them. Yet,theyre real.

Things are not real simply because you can use your mouth to declare them real. The human senses must be able to detect an objective manifestation. This manifestation must be repeatable.

KingEbukasBlog:
EVERYONE is in CONTACT because HE is EVERYWHERE . But off course , spirituality now helps to start , develop and maintain a relationship with the conscious creator

I'm assuming that you don't consider me a part of the everyone.

asalimpo:
Most things that can be proven are physical things . Subject to the physical senses or laws of logic.
Outside of that are things that arent in the realm of the 5 senses(spiritual things). Asking for a proof of the spiritual, is assuming that the physical and intellectual world is all there is.
This is the assumption you stick to ,the bible sticks to another so there's no meeting point.
If there's a realm beyond the senses, the only way to deal with it,is to believe it or reject it.

We don't see electromagnetic radiation unless it's ordinary light or close to it. We can prove that gamma rays exist even if our senses cannot detect them.

Do you believe that this Almighty God has the RIGHT to order the kidnapping of young girls?

KingEbukasBlog:
You do realise I addressed their deity with a small "g" .... and the continuous use of "their god" . You are being slow , try to keep up

So you reverted to tactics once familiarized on the primary school playground. Bravo. Small g?? Really??

So where is the big g? Are you in contact still?

asalimpo:
in other words the truth of how the world began and life, can be completely illogical and you as an atheist will accept it. Why then dyu scoff at the bible and ridicule its stories and miracles?

The Bible disproves itself. I've been though that before. Secondly, true things should be proven true no matter how ridiculous. The Bible falls short of that too.

You can't just use mouth or pen to DECLARE truth. Have respect for your fellow man enough to provide a DEMONSTRATION.

KingEbukasBlog:
You got me befuddled when you said "it" . Are we still having the God-is-a-he conversation ? Or you might like to come again

Have you spoken with the precursor of the universe? Were you standing in the universe while doing it, because the precursor is intertwined and mixed with the universe somehow.?

KingEbukasBlog:
I am a christian , direct your complaints to the Muslims who claim their god orders them to commit atrocities . Shekau , Boko Haram , ISIS these are not Christians , go ask the Muslims not me . I'm not sure why you are being obstinate about a simple request

You're being obtuse. I have complained ALREADY. They make the same claim YOU make, to be following God Almighty who cannot speak for himself.

So I'm back in front of you. Do you have a rebuttal, other than go ask them? What does the creator of the universe have to say about the matter?

KingEbukasBlog:
That is not a Non sequitur . God's revelation of Himself unto man gave the perception of masculinity or the attributes of being masculine - Father , Defender , Protector , Prince of Peace , Avenger , Judge , Son of Man etc

U should have said that na. God never talked to me, the precursor of the universe, that is. I didn't even know that it talked to people. Have you spoken with it yourself?

KingEbukasBlog:
This is inchoate but in progress . You can follow the thread

Everything - the unity of constituents or boundless whole ? Is Everything finite or infinite ? Consider the finite unity of constituents , the infinite unity of constituents , infinite boundless whole . Man , a constituent or unit of this Universe, sees nothing but change in matter, forces, and mental states. Witnessed in this universe is change - the height and decline , the birth , the growth and death of anything .

Ephesians 4:6


For EVERYTHING to exist , an ALL has to be eternal - has always been there . Is the universe part of HIM ? The universe has a beginning but God is eternal and everywhere . Dont forget EVERYTHING - which did you chose again : a. FINITE UNITY of constituents b. the INFINITE UNITY of constituents c. INFINITE BOUNDLESS whole .

The WHOLENESS of EVERYTHING is of the creator - Omnipresence of God , He is everywhere . Read the aforementioned bible verse again and again - "who is over All and THROUGH ALL and IN ALL

To be continued ...

What do you think you're doing? I was following you until you told me that the ALL ETERNAL precursor is a HE. Does this HE person like soul food?

Why are you making such an incredible leap, an unnecessary non sequitur so to speak, just moments after breaking the shit down like a zen master?

BTW, when you throw the word universe around, do you include energy? The universe has no beginning. What we know as the beginning is a recurrent theme throughout nature.

We die, potatoes grow. We live on through potatoes, our carbon based bodies do. Hahaha. Even our bodies have no end or beginning.

dubemnaija:
What could be the cause?

The cause is Foolishness. The man can read minds. Why are you using mouth? Just THINK the prayer, vocalize the words in your head silently.

Friendly advice from your neighborhood skeptic.

KingEbukasBlog:
Again , direct your complaints to the Muslims . Ask the Muslims if their god actually sanctioned the killings or not

God should do what he loves, if watching humans murder one another is a hobby for him, who are we to judge? Are you telling me that God Almighty doesn't have the right to order the kidnapping and r.ape of school children?

Shekau, the last spokesman for BH, already told me that his own god is the Almighty God. That's why I'm asking you again. If you speak to ALmighty God, then we should be able to clear out this mess. You can serve as the human messenger.

AltarBoy1:
Who is emperor.?

Pastors. They don't speak with anyone but other human beings. They have never spoken with aliens or the creator of the aliens.

Politicians are also n.aked emperors. Everyone knows that they are skilled liars.

asalimpo:
Without belief in an intelligent creator, evolution and the big bang theory is all any person is left with to explain the origin of the planet and life.

False dichotomy. I'm guessing the intelligent creator to whom you refer likes to talk to people and tell them to write books.

Look at my signature. The real truth is not obligated to make sense. The truth doesn't owe your brain any favors.

asalimpo:
Yeah. The child of darkness is conceived in sin inherited from his first parent - Adam .
Hence, He has satan's nature and needs a new nature - to be recreated anew in his spirit.

According to you, humans are designed by the God. Are you now saying that the product needs an update? Shouldn't the designer install his own update, instead of asking the "products" to do it?

asalimpo:
Really, think again. If you are an atheist,your father is the Devil. Period. He is the father of muslims and all other faith. Yeah,scoff,but we all serve a god. No one is exempt. I mean No one.

If,you're not in God's family,He sees you as a child of darkness. There's no middle ground.

You mean the same god who also designed the child of darkness, right?

asalimpo:
yeah,I know my analogy comes short ,because as humans we lack the tools and perspective for comprehending eternity. And we never will from this side of life.

However, the point still remains that our life experiences will counter our accusations of unfairness of God because we accept as justice that a criminal or fellow is free to exercise his own will only to be judged when he breaks the law of the land.
Then he must be made to bear the full weight of breaking the law.
Ignorance of the law not being an excuse.

In human laws, offenses are weighted and punishments tagged to the gravity of the offense.
The question you ask is saying,
there's no human offense committed in a finite lifetime that warrants eternal,endless,never-ending,infinite punishment.
Some offenses are quite brief, e.g uttering a wrong word or slander (how long does that take).
Humanly, the sin is too trivial (by man's standard) . But this begs the question of how correct is our standard? We are imperfect beings. Error is in our dna? Yet we want to weigh sin with our imperfect perceptions of it?
We are always shifting the mark on what sin is (Is abortion sin? Is homosexuality sin? Is swearing sin? Is consensual sx btw two married couples sin?).
We have no universal standard for what constitutes sin. Next,we have no universal standard for weighing the gravity of sin?
Finally,if we could weigh sin,we have no standard for computing the full consequence of sin.
We are woefully inequipped to judge sin.
When osama bombed u.s during 9/11, could abraham hav seen it when he was shagging hagar? No.
We said thank God it didnt happen to us,and went about our own business. But what about when boko haram decimated lives in the North. Nigeria got tagged terrorist state. Businesses folded up. Destinies quashed. What of those orphans, made so,because their fathers died fighting boko haram. What of the innocent blood crying out to God daily? What of the pains,anguish and health related problems the kidnapping of the chibok girls has caused their parents. All these from just one act of sin-disobeying God's word.
Abraham couldve never seen the full weight that single sin would cause. David when shagging uriah's wife,would never see what was coming.
Fact is,we can't compute sin or grasp its full dimension with our finite minds. So on judging sin,we can never judge correctly with our fallen finite minds.
God can. And His judgements are just. Just not fully understandable from this perspective.

Even if someone burns down the whole planet, I don't believe that they deserve to be roasted forever. 8 billion lifetimes of punishment should suffice, if we adhere to the eye for an eye method of distribution.

There is no way to wiggle out of it. This is the kind of information that everyone should receive first hand, if there were a God of the nature you describe. If a God who is going to roast me for eternity because I watch porn exists, why is the God telling everyone that information BUT me?

People just won't admit that the emperor is walking around n.aked. So they keep the myth alive, for survival reasons (they think).