₦airaland Forum

gohf:
let me show you how, do you believe that Satan was the first worshipper or the choir leader in heaven and that those men of cloth are right to use it as warning to choristers, even some claim it's not a ministry or it's a place Satan likes to dwell and the like of that talk

But none of it is online with scripture nor God's revelation


Jesus said God seeks those who worship Him in spirit and in truth and he also said we shall worship only God and none other.

I believe one who worships God will all their heart won't one day desire to be worshipped and exalt themselves as a god

You have a point there. Now I see the reason for the topic.

samuelson06:
You may not find God or build a relationship with Him in church as you claim. However, the Bible says do not forsake the gathering of the brethren. Were you expecting they gather under a shade? Or some dilapidated structure? Stop this argument, sir. As much as important to build people, it's also important to build the church. You don't expect people go stay in a dirty place of worship.

Fancy buildings, large auditoriums, etc. God doesn't care about all that. Jesus preached everywhere - street, shore, boats, people's homes - He didn't limit Himself to the temple. And everywhere people were blessed spiritually, with food, and healings.
In fact the Bible repeatedly says "God does not dwell in temples made with human hands" (Isaiah 66:1, Acts 7:48, Acts 17:24). The early church of the Apostles had no buildings - they mostly met in homes. Until 300 years later when the Romans hijacked the church.

UK as an example, churches don't stress themselves for buildings again (apart from Anglican and catholic buildings that have been there for centuries). They simply look for events halls in schools, hotels, etc. In fact some of them use different venues every week/month. Most use the sound system of the hall and maybe bring a few tweaks, and most musical instruments are personally owned - you bring your guitar or sax to add to the music if you own one. Nothing like "contribute money for new amplifier or Korg Piano" or "we need money to redecorate the altar". No materialism. Yet no hypocrisy or pretense. Many churches don't even collect ANY offering, if you want to give the website is there 24/7 - they don't even announce it. If you receive true gospel no one will cajole you to bring money, it will come from within. Calm atmosphere where people will reach out to you because they sincerely care for you.

Jesus said "my yoke is easy and my burden is light". But naija churches will place additional load and burden on your head. You're simply serving human desires rather than God.

No one knows precisely. Simple answer!

And I don't see how the answer to that question impacts your faith or living with a pure heart.

Even Peter argued with Jesus - when he refused for Jesus to wash his feet at first. Noah argued with God and went the opposite direction. Jacob fought an angel one-on-one.
That's being human.

Which one is you never argued with your wife. Or did you mean "hot arguments" or "quarrels" or "shouting matches"
Even if you married an angel or you're one yourself, you must have differences.

Truthseeker10:
If that is the case, how was Adam and Eve suppose to accomplish the admonition in Genesis 1:28?

Does that also mean that God wanted Adam and Eve to sin in order to multiply?

Maybe they're supposed to procreate by cloning. Lol.
The anatomy of both the male and female organs strongly suggests that they are meant to work together for sexual reproduction. Male and female He created them - that says a lot.

No one can claim to know what exactly happened in most of Genesis before the time of Abraham. People will only say their own theories.

samuelson06:
You are the one confusing yourself. What's the church without Christ? If I say church works, it simply means Jesus Christ works. No one will contribute a substantial amount to the building of any church without having a strong faith in Jesus. Have you seen anyone coming to the public to regret about their contribution towards church building project? That's because they believe in the blessings that their involvement in the church will or have brought to their life. What else do you want to say?

"These people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me - Matt 15:8" Yes there is church without Christ, even if of God/Christ is in the church's name.

Non-christian politicians donate heavily to church every time to buy people's conscience. Without any faith in Jesus whatsoever.

People won't come public to say they regret giving money to church building, because they've been brainwashed to believe giving to church means giving to God.

Obviously you've been conditioned to think church is the place where you find God, or build a relationship with Him.

That is true leadership.
I know a pastor who handed over his church to the members (who decided on their own leaders) and relocated elsewhere to grow another church. All within Nigeria. This is an apostolic example.

samuelson06:
You don't know what you are saying. The transformation simply means church works—at least, the people bringing their resources for the building of the church believe it works. So, let's leave it there.

"Church works"?? Not Jesus Christ works?
Obviously, and this is the point I was making originally, it's a lot more about the church than about Christ.
It's more of how much you're in church and how much of church is in you - Nigerian Christianity.
Focusing on the material - mega buildings, expensive equipment and vehicles than place "heavy financial yoke" on members.
That is not the yoke of Christ.

The transformation, while not bad, is not a reflection of the people's spiritual growth.
In fact, it seems to have achieved the opposite.

You're looking at this like everything ends in this world where you spend 70-80 years on the average.
There will be a new eternal world that all these wickedness would cease and all wicked people will be deleted forever.

I don't understand...

Wow

Sounds like a very bad case of diabetes due to uncontrolled excessive weight. In fact, that weight alone will be a cause of multiple chronic illnesses.

The classy Oloshos who claim to be artistes and social media influencers.
And the guys in that same circle who patronise them.

Now every Gen Z believes money and sex are supposed to be in the same sentence.

No sane man will leave the softness and warmth of a woman's body to go after fellow hardware.

The price that will make your blood pressure rise when it gets stolen or broken.
If you can't afford to buy the same phone over again 3 months after your intended purchase date, it's likely too expensive for you to buy now.

Russian Soldiers, not Putin's soldiers.

Good one.
But really NDLEA should stop making public how the drugs were concealed. They will stay ahead of many other packages in transit that are concealed the same way. But once you say it, those guys will quickly change their tactics and halt any current shipments. It's just logical.

salesbloo:
Nairaland give us figures in dollars not naira

God Bless President Bola Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

Like dollars is our currency?? Sebi naira "has stabilized and performing". Weeks ago you dead heads were celebrating that we "paid off" IMF. How come debt is rising?

Ruke1990:
Do your bible talk about "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, we will catch up to meet him in the air, at the last trump"?

Your question is ambiguous to me. Could you please clarify??

Boomark:
Please nobody is interested in whatever any human being has chosen to define for themselves.

Pick up your bible and argue with Jesus Christ lets see how far you can go again the Lord's word.

First as a man, you're body, soul and spirit.
If you've ever looked at the corpse of a loved one - that lifeless body is still the person in your eyes.
Your embodiment of thoughts, memories, emotions, trauma, knowledge, etc. is your soul. If there's a way to transfer these into a robot, it will behave like you.
Now your spirit is the real you - your actual person, the entity "being" in human being. The life force that drives your body and soul.

When the Bible says God made man in His image. It is the full complete image - 3 in 1.

If you can understand this, you'll understand Trinity.

Misunderstanding!
Trinity doesn't mean there are three Gods in one, or one God divided into 3. No.
Trinity is one God manifesting in three personalities.

A new heaven and a new earth and a new Jerusalem is what the Bible says.
Orthodox Christians and Protestants generally align with this setup.
The idea of going to heaven forever was brought by the Pentecostals.

James 2:26 is one of the most misunderstood scriptures in the Bible.

Simply put - if you claim you're a Christian (person of faith), your behaviour (works) should reflect it. The works in this context are the works of love.

jibsiddy456:
Dey play. That's if you don't know your worth as an accountant. Just AAT or Hnd in accounting will take home that 120k you are talking about. You can talk about law. No reason accountancy at all

POV. I was a chartered accountant before I switched 100% to Software Engineer.
I can count 50 colleagues with low wages after over a decade. So keep quiet on what you don't know!
You think there's job waiting for you somewhere? Because you got some qualifications?

Sccarrr:
Unfortunately, that's the reality.....95% of Nigerian lawyers broke pass broke.. the day my cousin told me she was earning less than 100k in the law firm she worked for, I shock😕

Same for accountants. Many chartered accountants out there earning less than 120k.

Tell us more about your beliefs. Perhaps we could learn from them.

qleap2all:
It seems à new lexicon in the dictionary of the lazy and wailers is "suffering " ! You're the one actually suffering from ignorance!

The main problem of Nigerians like you is that you don't even know what the responsibilities of a government are, so you don't even know what to expect them to do or not.

IAM4BAT4plus4:
You dey fear 😨?

I'm not one of those you directed your message to. But if you have to use evil to defend good, your good is dead on arrival.