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^^Malicious, immature, rude, offensive, stalking? Obviously u've not been here long enough. So Welcome to Nairaland!

^^^ Of course its next 2 impossible to convince some1 that believes they came into existence as a result of some 'big bang' about anything esp when u start with 'God says'. . . That is undastandable. But what I dont undastand is y most of u choose to display your silly antics in any thread with a vestige of Religion. Arent u content with being foools in yourselves? Must u shout it to the world?

Y not save your venom till he's proven wrong.what makes any of u think u're smarter than anyone attending his church?

^^^ Same reason he gets on peoples nerves with his unfounded criticisms of anything that has to do with Gej.

It is already a serious issue and we dont need a bigger bomb to drive it home. That said, if the Prophet actually said it, I think it should be taken very seriously. He's predos (I've paid particular attention 2 his football predos) have always come true. I Think Ngr seriously needs our prayers.

I'm sure the mouth-leaking dimwit wld be monitoring all threads on NL searching for anti GEJ threads to post his usual crap on. He only yaps around fellow lazy armchair critics so I'm not surprised he's running with his tail under his butt.

MEND have denied having anything to do with the bombings, its on Sahara Reports, cant do that copy and paste thing so someone can help me out. Its definitely not their style so lets leave out MEND for now, this bombing has got 'Political Reasons' written all over it.

I'm certain that if the bombers were to be going thru this thread, he'lld be amazed at the scale of his success judging by the comments on this thread. So now Gej should quit for a stronger leader abi? This is a democracy 4 christ's sake, If u think Gej is weak u can vote IBB or Buhari its not late. But pls stop these senseless criticisms. The other time he was tried to be tough after a bomb blast u lot came out with same criticisms accusing him of witchhunting political opponents so soon after a blast and nearly turned d whole stuff to a North vs South war with your comments Now u expect him 2 appear strong to u? Gej might appear weak to u but like someone said, We'll take our chances.
This storm will pass just like d others and eventually the perpetrators will be brought to book. Na Naija we dey. So here's my advice; Y not gather your criticisms and shove it down your scraggy backsides.

Retire? Your Job aint done yet! No doubt Soyinka has contributed a whole lot to Ngr but withdrawing at this stage puts him on thesame level as d likes of Gani, Enahoro etc who came saw and eventually got conquered by the system and yet left no real legacy for d younger generatn 2 follow except their personal travails and accomplishments.
One would expect some1 as vast as Soyinka to recognize that there's really no platform on ground to launch a desperately needed revolution. What I xpected was 4 him 2 search both sides of d Niger for men of impeccable integrity and Vision, imagine d likes of Duke, Utomi, Ribadu, Col Abubakar Umar, Achebe etc in one party. That way d upcoming generatn wld have a platform 2 launch their revolutn and He can rest knowing he has set in motion an inevitable process of revolutionary change.
This is what Soyinka owes the country he has fought so hard for else when he eventually goes, he wld be remembered only as a nobel prize winning armchair critic.

@Oliss, Tanx for sharing your perspective and somewhat claring the air.
U cant help but be shocked at such brazen display of naivety by just too many people! This highlights the depth of the problem we are in. May God Help Us.

@galek, Y not put your head to good use? How many of u critics requested 4 a link to ascertain whether or not he actually said wats being attributed 2 him or undastand y he said it? Perharps its the good old "herd mentality" effect?. And u think I'm the dumb one? Very funny.

^^^ See dis one. How many apoligies have u gotten from IBB & co? Abuse of free speech. NONSENSE!

^^^ U r the cursed in Nigeria

Y should i? Continue 2 wallow in your ignorance

If only Atiku could put his thieving talent to good use on this, he would be assured of my very weighty vote.

The most annoying thing is how much these folks believe they represent Ndigbo!

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=568607.msg7338852#msg7338852 date=1292406864]Hrm. So I mean failure in a relative sense. The amount of oil some of these countries pump from the ground doesn't actually seem to positively impact the lot of your average man as much as it "seems" it should.

Here is a list of countries by GDP per capita: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Saudi Arabia is #39, at 16.6k.

You'd think that having the largest oil reserves in the world would lead to more wealth than say a country like the frikkin Czech Republic (18.7k).





Otoh, look at Norway. #2 on that ranking, GDP/capita of $84K.

So I feel that they are underacheiving, somehow.[/quote]Herein lies the deception of economic aggregates. Saudi Arabia has a population of about 28m while Norway is just under 5million people while Czech republic has a pop of about 10m. GDP per Capita, is like sharing the entire income of a nation among its population ie National income divided by population. Saudi Arabia might earn much more than most of the countries mentioned but when you factor in the population she has, its per capita income comes crashing.
  The deception lies in the fact that GDP, GNP, Per Capita income are all economic aggregates that do not capture the standard of living of the populace so pointing to those aggregates in your argument is self defeating cos as any economist would tell you, Economic Growth is very different from Economic Development.
Whether or not Ghana can reconcile the twin bogeys of Economic growth and Development remains to be seen and honestly, I'm not optimistic cos naturally Economic aggregates gets all the focus. So as long as Ghanians can avert the worse challenges of potentially getting caught up in the "Oil doom" like we were, they'll be hailed as a success - that I'm optimistic about.

Been ages since I saw this picture and as i looked at it again i couldnt help but notice the 'strain' on the faces of these 'Men'. Apart from Oliseh and Amokachi those men looked preety much very mature, perharps therein lies the secret of their relative success - Maturity! as an arsenal fan it rings an extra bell to see the same denied truth laid bare on our national team. These were men that had kicked that ball long enough to know what they were kicking. so heres to yall that keep crying for fresh legs!

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=568607.msg7338745#msg7338745 date=1292405951]It doesn't have to doom a country, but it seems to be quite hard to avoid wahala. Norway is one of the few countries I know of that has been successful with large amounts of oil. Most of the other countries are failures, imo. There is an interesting article in Wikipedia on the "Dutch Disease" that is relevant. Maybe some of the economists here can chime in and offer more insight (Katsumoto, I'm looking at you.)[/quote]Well its called the "Dutch disease" for a reason. The problem of destructively stifling other sectors of the economy was first noticed in the Netherlands when they discovered oil (i bet that tag is due for an update - Nigerian curse anyone), however nations like Norway learnt from the initial mistakes of their Dutch neighbors and the much feared 'disease' turned out not to be a problem. I think Ghanians can do the same, the danger is staring them in the face just like the potentials but judging by how well they've done so far, i bet they'll beat the 'disease'

The West African nation of Ghana is due to pump its first commercial oil after the discovery of the offshore Jubilee Field three years ago.

A consortium led by UK-based Tullow Oil hopes to produce 55,000 barrels per day, increasing to 120,000 barrels in six months.

Ghana, one of Africa's most stable countries, is expected to earn $400m (£254m) in the first year.

But laws meant to govern the oil sector have not yet been passed.

The discovery of oil off Ghana's coast has raised questions about whether Ghana can escape the "resource curse", where discoveries of valuable commodities fuels conflict and corruption instead of funding development.

The oil is to start flowing following a ceremony attended by President John Atta Mills.

Analysts have raised concerns about the lack of laws to manage oil revenue and the lack of an independent regulator for the sector.

The government has said it is working to get an oil bill passed.

The government has forecast that the oil will boost Ghana's economic growth rate from 5% this year to as much as 12% next year.

Production is eventually expected to bring in $1bn a year. Ghana a[b]lready earns billions from cocoa and gold[/b].

The Jubilee Field is estimated to hold 1.5bn barrels of oil. A second offshore field was discovered in September that is believed to hold another 1.4bn barrels.

The fields are some of the largest oil deposits found in recent years.
bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11996983

@Bolded, A lot Seems to be going right for some.

Abeg make we hear word jare. Worse happened during OBJ's time yet the skies didnt fall. Wetin want happen go still happen - Fresh Air in Naija.

@chyz, And what name do u go by? Ok let me guess its the one and only 'Onye Nzuzu' right?
@Mobi,What sort of Gallows Humour is that? U sound like some terrible pervert.

@chyz, Please tell us the part of Neverland that you live that crime doesnt occur. Please tell us or forever remain dumb.

I'm not in support of Ribadu's presidential bid but nontheless I'm a big fan of the Mallam.
I do not see how his statement translates to a basis for calling him an ethnic warlord. He was simply referring to the bandwagon effect that is so common in Northern Nigeria than anywhere else in the country, so in theory Northerners would only vote for a fellow Northerner when the chips are down and without a full majority ethnic backing in the north or south, Gej is unelectable. He sure sounds naive though, but branding him an Ethnic Warlord seems completely absurd.

@Poster, So u've carried over your war mongering from the group chat to the house abi? So much for hiding your identity lol
@topic , I'm certain that by now Atiku done stop to "dey laugh O" and would be fasting and praying desperately that something stops these cables. Just one mention of his name(of course it wld be for a terrible reason) and Gej wont need to campaign any longer. Gej has taken his hit and is still standing strong, can Atiku survive he's?
@Civil war freaks, The likes of Ojukwu, Obj, Gowon etc have lived their lives and the youngest among them is no less than 70, what ever the cables reveal abt them and an unfortunate war would only be 4 d benefit of history textbooks, not even Obj has anything 2 loose. If I were u guys I wld save my strength for those it can impact.

Just heard over the radio that Deltas Gov Obi barely one month into his 3 month tenure has proposed to the state house of assembly to obtain a loan of 20b naira in order to meet the states contractual obligations!. The loan which is to be sought from reputable financial institutions has a 13% interest rate P/A with 2% upfront fees, a 24 month repayment period with a 3 month moratorium and is to be paid back with revenue from the states monthly statutory allocations.

This is just a small matter in the state house of assembly that has always been no more than a rubber stamp for the executive arm of govt. so unlike the furore in Ogun, expect this one to sail quite easily. And while the likes of E.K Clark are waging their vendetta with Uduaghan, the resources of the state is being plundered by its custodians in order to perpetuate the same govt that has enslaved its people. Audacious isnt it?

Beaf:
I'll give a pointer to mine. Under true federalism, Shell would never have control of the Nigerian govt; with resource control, Shell would never have access to the handles of the Nigerian govt.

I beg to differ, You achieve nothing by digging up a hole to cover another. Does Shell really have control of the Ngrn govt? absolutely not, else we wont even be considering the PIB like we are doing today. But what they have a certain level of control over are some key areas that might directly influence their operations, hence the stalling of the bill more than a year after it was proposed. And their focus isnt just on the federal govt - of course they have to keep a close eye on those making the policies that would affect their operations - but in reality, their espionage covers all areas including local communities. Shell learnt their lessons the hard way in Ogoni and realized how easily federal powers can be undermined without local support hence they've shifted their focus from the federal level to the local power brokers.Chiefs are bought over quite easily and with the waning powers of local elders, leading and troublesome youths are patronized. How else do you think they've been asle to maintain cordial relationships with their host communities?
Federalism or resource control at this point would only mean going back to the 50's and starting all over again to learn our lessons, Our current structure at d state level is open to easy abuse and no one really can be held accountable compared to the federal level where there is some degree of accountability and monitoring.
The right thing to do is to push through badly needed reforms and weed out identified moles in the system. Shell is a part of the Nigerian economy and can play the role it ought to be playing with adequate regulation and monitoring, Nationalization is a no no, NNPC is enough burden on us.

1025:
@wesley80,
that is not supposed to be the issue rather u shld be telling us the meaning of presidential pardon which jonathan granted ribadu. do u pardon ppl who commit no crimes?
if u are looking for the crimes of ribadu, tell me why bode george remained innocent until the emergence of madam waziri.
what about his boasting to arrest 31 state governors after may 29? how far did ribadu go with the iyabo obasanjo's case?
how come atiku is still a free man after the 2007 ribadu/obasanjo indictment of the former?

Perhaps u didnt understand my question properly so let me ask you again. What was Ribadu's crime?
Secondly, how does the dropping of baseless charges equate to a presidential pardon?

@blacksta, is he also a stooge for Abdulsalam and Gowon? Obj has a dirty reputatn and Gej was simply advised 2 stay away so as not to lend credence 2 Northern suspicion that he (Obj) had planned the whole scenario from the outset and thereby jeopardize his chance of gathering the entire nations support. Put on your sense na.

Of course we r all victims of a terrible system that has subjected us to such unnecessary difficulties but at the same time I believe the average Ngrn student deserves commendatn not ridicule. The minute u step into school u have a choice, its either u study hard n succeed or u choose 2 "just graduate" by whatever means possible and we have a system that will help u in whichever choice u make! Some choose to brave d odds and come out with a degree they can defend(at least i know i can defend mine even though i wasnt close 2 being the best in my set) , so to come out and be described with that sickening innuendo -todays graduates is sickening and a touch ignorant.
Universities are much more today and are pouring out thousands of graduates annually than they did a decade ago so possibly, the number of so called half baked graduates would be more, But to think Nigerian institutions can no longer produce worthy intellectuals is no more than grade 1 naivety. CONCLUDED