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[quote author=baby.me link=topic=587350.msg7555727#msg7555727 date=1295356016]Tears welled up in my eyes while i was going through the posts. I was on fire sometime ago for Christ,but recently i've been so cold. I try praying and studying,but usually falls asleep trying. Sometimes going to church becomes a problem and i know this is not me. The devil does not rest,and after reading this thread,i just promise myself that i must ignite that fire once more or die trying. So help me God.[/quote]U just told my story. I'm so ashamed but at the same time so inspired. God bless this thread.

Why dont we give our graduates a break. We all kind of inherited the mentality of our fathers and grand fathers of being awed by the word "Graduate" thereby creating unrealistic expectaions especially when juxtaposed with our grossly underfunded educational system that has failed to keep up with the times. I wonder if the present crop of castigators who schooled in the 60's,70's and 80's would have fared any better under the same circumstances. The root of this awe is traceable to the days when a mere simple command of English left the predominantly illiterate and uneducated populace all too impressed at a fellow black mans mastery of the white mans language. To most, that was enough for graduates to attain Genius status and so "Graduate" became synonymous with "Genius". Now the stakes have been raised, Good English isnt enough any longer now u must be a genius in your field of study, a genius in the eyes of your boss, a genius in operating DDC machines even when u went all thru school without seeing or using one and the most annoying; a genius in the eyes of our foreign legion of education seekers(From Togo to Australia).
 The truth is graduates are just everyday people, while some are smart, some are dull, while some are inquisitive, some are docile and so on. No doubt the propoprtion of dull and docile ones seem to outweigh those of the smart ones in Nigeria but 4 Christs sake isnt that a reflection of our society? Nigerian graduates are graduates not geniuses. Get the difference.

@Topic
This whole articles are so interesting and revealing. Too bad NL's legion of mouthy online footsoldiers would be put off by its length and wld lose this opportunity to get a grasp of the real issues they all so often fail to pay attention.

Oh oh! Is this what I get for de-fusing a ticking time bomb? What has d world turned into? I just rescued u and the entire forum from anoda potential ethnic-bashing-homepage making thread and the thank u i get r insults? Wld u have rather had a congregation of ethnic bigots feasting off your head. 4 petes sake I just helped u sway d discussion to highlight your innocence(ignorance). The folly of a lady is more acceptable around here so pls excuse my gender references. Its ok anyway, dont bother to thank me cos I did it 4 humanity sha.

Now dat u've apologised, Y not go look for some toys to play with or gossip with your mates? Or u cld just let Alhaji rock u in his arms till u fall asleep. This is no place for infants to try out their debating skills ok? Now be a good girl and run along.

@OP,
Oh my, Did I piss u off? So sori I made a mistake, my post shld have read; Do u think it is appropriate for a Northern Dim witted Semi literate Goat Herder to open a thread like this? Just correcting my post sha!

@OP
Do u think it is appropriate for a semi-literate non-Igbo to start a thread like this? Just asking sha!

The whole idea of "Buharism" ( this is such a huge joke) seems to Border around his rejection of SAP but in reality was SAP such aterrible economic proposition? were d likes of Falae and idika kalu really economic saboteurs to have advocated 4 its implementation? of course the conditions necessary for its success were not present in Ngr at the time but wasnt that what the whole idea was about? the inevitable economic hardships that were supposed to come with SAP were supposed to force us to look inwards and with complementary govt. policies, help us realize the Ngr of our dreams:more like stooping to conquer. IBB's mistake was assuming SAP was a sort of Economic auto-pilot that wld take us to the promise land while he just did his thing so if anything, Buhari deserves raps for not accepting the challenge of SAP esp when he's own economic idea's left the country worse off.

First of all, permit me to say I'm a passionate and unrepentant follower of SLS especially his views on Welfare and development Economics but I find myself wondering if this article was truly meant to be to the credit of Gen Buhari's repressive and economically inept govt. or perharps a Satirical piece intended to expose the folly of the General and his regime to folks out there that have heard nothing but stories about the Generals 'Good' intentions.
The lack of national political icons is so often brought to the fore by articles as this that are no more than feeble attempts to re-write history by transforming catastrophic failures to national heroes at the mere whim of a clever writer - Cry Nigeria, or how else can u explain the elevation of a Buhari to the level of a Pandit Nehru whose economic vision modern day India is founded upon or Chairman Mao who was synonymous to ruthlessness but today is celebrated as the foundation of a successful China or coming closer to home, a Thomas Sankara who while Gen Buhari's domestic policy was whipping people into queues, instituted widespread reforms in his country (Burkina faso) that included compulsory vaccinations,doubling Wheat production by redistributing lands from feudal landlords to peasant farmers, halting desertification thru massive tree planting,establishing a network or road/rail transport to "tie up his country", outlawing polygamy and forced marriages in his predominantly moslem country, encouraging girls to stay in school even if pregnant among other laudable foreign policies and today is widely regarded by most as Africas biggest loss. Of course he's repressive tendencies were matched and surpassed by Buhari, but while he's were laudable and seen as truly being in the interest of his nation, can we say same about Buhari?

@Akhenaten
R u new around here? U cant draft people in to be called Igbos when they believe they r not. A more acceptable term for most wld av been all tribes that speak "nno/nnwa". I'm Ok being called an Igbo but I know not all like me are, and I dont blame them!

@Akhenaten
I was hoping a definition wld help reduce the inevitable taunts this thread wld generate.
@fstranger
I knew we were going 2 be in trouble when I heard they let u out of rehab. Whoever ordered your release obviously forgot to add that u be put on a permanent straight jacket.

I think this thread should have started with a comprehensive definition of "Igbo" or at least your understanding of it, that way we'lld know who belongs here or doesnt.

blacksta:
Poster


You forgot acknowledge the power of brown envelopes, Anneih promising to fish out delegates who dont vote for GEJ, The release of a Murder called Senator Folarin so that he can be at the primaries, The depletion of the Excess Crude account to finance last minute political mago mago. The Attempt to change the constitution to make assembly members delegates of political parties THE LIST IS ENDLESS.

If the above is what you call democracy then we are finished

I accept they are no saints in politics but GEJ promised that he would never spill the blood of a Nigerian just because he wants to be president.

I fought for GEJ ( Protesting at the UK Nigerian embassy) when the turai cabal were trying to circumnavigate the Nigerian constitution but the recent evils happening around GEJ has confirmed otherwise though he may have a good heart but the Nija problems over whelms GEJ as he has duly noted to the US envoy that he lacks the experience and that there are others who could do a much better job.

My friend Sharrap there. Since u know all about the Democracy we r lacking what r u still doing in the UK? Why didnt u come and teach us? Is it that u couldnt afford d PDP form or u were simply afraid of getting Ati*kued? (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-585585.0.html)

Nsiman:
Similarly, three english words has been merged in nigeria and added to the lexicon of nigerian english. Do u know that nigeria this morning at eagle square at about 6:00am was GOODLUCKANALISED by the pdp?

My friend dont spoil this thread with your dry humour, we r celebrating Atiku's single biggest contribution to our country and u're trying to let someone else share the limelight.  Ooops, u just got Ati*kued!!!

@kobojunk
U're beginning to piss me of. Could we please have some e-shut up from u?

@OP

And this is breaking news where u are?

fstranger1:
Ode

Kobo is not a lady

She is a senile grand ma!

If the 'f' that begins your name didnt stand for 'FOOOL' u wld av known the only thing that matters is her being female.

politicus:
hello all
Whats new?

J.J.C Mugu no dey hard to know!

monkeyleg:
@Kobojunkie,

Really, what is your problem with my complaint? If you dont like it, go somewhere else and comment, why dont you start with issues that affect your own state, at least I am speaking about those which affect mine.

Typical. Gets whooped in elections and cries foul, Gets whooped by a lady and cries for mom!

monkeyleg:
@Wesley80,

I am not prepared to accept rubbish as a governor, maybe you are. But u can be rest assured that the guilty will finally pay. And you my friend should start learning how to eat from the kings table, stop being told that all you are good for is Uduaghan's scraps

Uduaghan is your servant, he is meant to be serving you, not feeding you scraps of food with rightfully belong to you.

Someday, we'll get there. we r not there yet so pls stop making a complete foool of yourself. I take God beg u.

redsun:
These motherfuckers are using d tax payers money to buy votes with impunity as always and docile naijans look on like status

Are those collecting the "money" from Pluto? No be we we?

My friend this isnt about what I'm for or against. the point i'm trying 2 make is that ppl are too blinded by poverty 2 give a damn about what their votes are worth and so Uduaghan couldnt have lost d elections merely based on his perceived incompetence.
My reference to u ready 2 shed blood was only figurative so dont pee on your pants just yet.

monkeyleg:
@Wesley80,
And yes, i am from delta north. I didnt sell my soul and my childrens future for 1000 naira, like you did. People like you remian the problem we have in Nigeria. Still engaging in buns and stock-fish politics.

I ask again, what has uduaghan done for the state? please list them

My friend its people like u that are d problem we have in Nigeria. Your failure to realize that we are a country with over 70% of its population living on less than a dollar a day is the problem we have. There are people in your village and even in towns that would be happy to get N1000 in an entire month! I'm talking about abject poverty and you expect them to vote for a candidate that they've neva even heard of and discard the one that shared them bags of rice, salts and clothing materials during the yuletide? You can yapp all you want about all thats wrong with buying of votes but fact is Nigeria is not one idyllic society where people look beyond immediate gratification in casting their votes nor consider the implications of trading their votes for cash.
The states commissioner for works, a special adviser to the state governor, a representative in the states house of assembly and a representative in the federal House of reps (All PDP) hail from a community in Delta North, but this same community has No road, No drinkable water (except the Niger and a couple of surrounding streams around), No electricity( The generator donated by Agip packed up years ago). But guess what? on the day of the PDP rally for Uduaghan and local primaries, almost d entire village young and old with masquerades congregated to hold a befitting rally for their political 'sons' and the most heart wrenching was the venue - a derelict government primary school with blown out roofs and chairless classrooms! I hope u're beginning to understand d power of immediate gratification. And people like u dare to question how the PDP won by a landslide? Questions like this make me wonder if people living in this same society can really be this naive?.
What u should be wasting your breath on is on how to enlghten and educate voters to look beyond gratification in casting their votes instead of indulging in this brazen display of ignorance and naivety. But come to think of it, isnt that typical of someone that is ready to shed blood for a candidate he doesnt even know his manifesto? And u think u're better than those that trade their votes for a bag of salt? Your arguments are the very echoes of what the average okada man in the street thinks and I find it hard to believe I'm trying to convince an educated(?) person about his own society.
And about what uduaghan has achieved, pls lets not go there.

@unipol
U Can read and write so i want to believe you've sat for an exam before. All through your sojourn in primary school (safe to assume you're now in secondary school) was there neva a time a classmate of yours cheated during exams? Lets say he had a missile somewhere or was caught seriously giraffing. Did d offense lead to the cancellation of your entire exams or the culprit was isolated and punished? Ok which one makes more sense to u? Singling out d individual 4 punishment or ridiculing d entire class including the examiners?
There's a reason the troubles during d elections were described as 'isolated incidents'. Now for your assignment tonight can you describe the relationship between my simple analogy above and the Delta state elections? Come on, I've got sweets!

@monkeyleg
So Uduaghan has done nothing? Perharps u're too blind 2 see. I'm not surprised anyway considering your penchant 4 denying d obvious. But i'm surprised u keep dodging my question;What was Ogboru's campaign promise? Nothing is d answer. He rode on d ignorance of folks like u, whipping up sentiments propagated by d likes of Clark - Nothing more. And just like a castle of sand, it has collapsed b4 your very eyez and here u are refusing 2 sleep every night fighting a long lost battle.
D truth is Uduaghans achievement was neva d issue in d election just as Ogborus manifesto wasnt. Rather, d issues were Ethnicity,political balance,money, power and of course d ubiquitous zoning. Victory was guaranteed 4 anyone that could manipulate all 5 to his advantage and thats exactly what Uduaghan did therefore victory was inevitable. So dont sit your black butt there tryin 2 climb a moral high ground about achievements and whats best 4 Delta state. U and your likes have refused to accept d fact that u backed a grossly inept politician so u go about peddling baseless allegations abt electoral fraud bla bla bla, Y not save your breaths 4 April where u're sure 2 get anoda whooping d way u're going.
@asha, I refuse to believe this guy is from Delta North. Dont tell me the effects of Too much Oghwo and Starch can be this bad! Tufiakwa.

@monkeyleg
I'm sure u probably think I support Uduaghan cos I'm Itsekiri, but u're wrong cos I'm not. and just because u're isoko doesnt make u a non-urhobo.
Ethnicity aside, I asked a question, have u seen Ogboru's manifesto? What is d basis of your support 4 him? R u so blinded by yoyr desperation 4 change dat u dont care who takes d seat? Y should i be in a hurry to vote 4 another Urhobo man when d 2 they've produced (Ibru & Ibori) were collosal failures? Lets face it, 95% of those against Uduaghan do so becos of his association with your criminal son Ibori and that includes u. Most of u dim witted opposers can hardly give any other sensible reason 4 your criticisms. Uduaghan has only served one term and has already achieved more than what yr annointed son Ibori managed in 8yrs and yet we r supposed 2 throw him out 4 someone whose only campaign slogan I can recall from 2007 to date is that his mom is from Obiaruku!
Uduaghan is no saint and obviously hasnt made d best use of our resources but some of his projects r laudable and wld transform d state when they come through. If Ogboru hopes 2 rule this state, he's got to learn to tell pple what plans he's got as well as reach out to every tribe in d state like Uduaghan has done instead of naively basing his support in Urhobo/Isokoland, counting on d votes of his maternal home and inlaws to deliver an election then turning around 2 cry blue murder wen he gets d bashing of his life.

monkeyleg:
And in good Time that Thief Uduaghan will be unceremonously thrown out, and staright into jail like his phucking brother, where he belongs.

The people of Delta will get justice, you watch

U know what puts me off the most abt u guys crying wolf? U're not fighting 4 anything other than to have another Urhobo crook as governor. this whole sadistic campaign is just so u guys can trade one crook for another of your stock and choice.What is Ogboru's manifesto U loud mouthed freak? Delta state has got at least 7 major tribes and if u think the rest of the state will sit back and watch u guys produce one crook after another to be governor simply becos they r Urhobos, then let me be the first to tell u u're living in an imagined utopia!

monkeyleg:
@Wesley80,

So was I, and my eyes saw wonder.

PDP are damn thieves, thank God they are begining to get the purnishment they deserve, this is the start. Dont worry they will consume themselves, and you can continue to live in denial, and shamelessly call that sham election free and fair

Whateva itches your black n scraggy bum!

monkeyleg:
@Wesley80,

but there was video evidence, abi u didnt see that one?

The election was a damn fraud, keep decieving yourself

My friend I trust my eyes more than any damn camera - I was there. You must have a pretty good sense of humour to call that crap 'video evidence'. Believe me. u're d one deceiving yourself.

Oh really! So thats what they think? well I've stopped reading Sahara Reporters but here's what Allafrica.com thinks abt same elections;

Nigeria: Delta Rerun - Group Commends Electoral Commission

Agaju Madugba

11 January 2011

Independent Election Monitoring Group (IEMG) has commended the leadership of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) over what it described as INEC's commitment to the electoral process and efforts at improving logistics, during the just-concluded re-run gubernatorial election in Delta state.

The IEMG in its report of the election noted that the outcome of the polls represents the will of the people, in spite of the problems, imperfections and challenges witnessed during the process.

The report equally commended the people of Delta state, "for enthusiastically turning out in large numbers to exercise their democratic franchise, despite the tense political environment before the elections."

The report signed by the coordinator of the group, Festus Okoye, observed that there were still genuine complaints of omissions in the voters' register which had created rowdy situations in some of the polling units, "as those who, could not locate their names on the register or those with the temporary cards or what they saw as a voters register could not vote and insisted on voting.

"There were multiple versions of the voters register in circulation in some of the polling units and some of the party agents used such registers to confuse the voters in some of the polling units."

The report further recommended that, "INEC should carry out intensive and comprehensive sensitization of Nigerians on the demands and provisions of the Modified Open Ballot System that will be used in the April 2011 elections. ,
allafrica.com/stories/201101110640.html


So u see? You've got to choose whom to believe.If I were u I'lld stop allowing myself 2 be brainwashed by SR. See what its turning you into!

Thot u said 10?

fstranger1:
My guy, the gibberish you posted there is not[b] oratory[/b].

Oya go die now

The word Oratory is as subjective as they come, what u consider oratory may not be what I feel same abt. the key ingredient in Oratory would have 2 be 'the ability to move its listener(s). A speaker that could give such an impromptu response using such crafty words should leave u in no doubt as to the depth of his oratorical skills. I've got a couple of his speeches but that was the shortest I could come up with. I'lld luv 2 see those of the people u chose.