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Foreign Affairs › Re: Gazans Pray For Netanyahu After Strike On Hamas Facility Expose Hoarded Aids(vid by Westerhoffe(m): 8:49pm On Mar 20, 2024
Wow wow wow!!!

Now their eyes are opened.
Now they know their real enemies.

People are starving, you're hoarding food!

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 8:46pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
See devil's twisting ooh! see perversion. See what devil defined adultery to be. grin grin grin

Whereas everyone has defined it as Oxford
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

Cambridge
adultery
noun
sex between a married man or woman and someone he or she is not married to:

Merriam-Webster
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.

BUT HERE WE CAN SEE THAT DEVIL HAS TWISTED THE DEFINITION INTO A LIE . grin

UNA DEY SEE DEVIL?



Second wife means means first wife's husband committed Adultery to marry the second wife.

And the second wife committed whorredom/harlotry/prostitution to marry the legally married husband of the first wife!

Sodom and Gomorrah and Amelekite people.
You're so so dull!

I shouldn't even be interacting with you.

You're mentioning 'MARRIED THIS, MARRIED THAT" and you call it adultery!
The Bible said MARRIAGE IS HONOURABLE IN ALL AND THE BED UNDEFILED, BUT WHOREMONGERS AND ADULTERERS GOD WILL JUDGE"

And you're still so dull to call marriage adultery!

SHOW ME WHERE GOD CALLED POLYGAMY ADULTERY! YOU DECEPTIVE LIAR AND ANTI-GOD.

Sodom and Gomorrah people?

Really?
You think you know about them?
Tell me about the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Let me even see what you know about them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 8:39pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
See devil trying to create confusion to cover the sins of adultery and whorredom.

The prostitute/harlot/whorre second wife is marrying a married man, that is Adultery and legally it is called bigamy!
See your life?
You're so brainless, daft, deceptive, liar, a false teacher, mislead, and false doctrine propagator.

How can you be so dull to admit, "she 'MARRIED' the man, not just sleeping around with him," but to your dull brain it is adultery?

The real adultery you commit you hide that and divert attention away from it and give adultery a new meaning so as to cover your real many adulteries and fornications.

You're such a hypocrite!
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:56pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
You are just describing yourself for every reasonable and normal person knows that adultery is sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

So how can a married person, marry again without committing adultery?

And how can an unmarried person, marry a married person person without committing adultery?
How does marrying again become or relate to adultery when the second wife too was legally married? grin grin grin grin

Na waooo!

You're so so confused and yet pompous!
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:55pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Says the evil lying twisting serpent lying yet again because he has no reasonable argument to make so now you he is searching for an explanation for why he cannot make a valid argument



Who does not know what Adultery is? Clearly, you don't have any reasonable argument to make but let me see.

Here is the Dictionary
Oxford
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

Cambridge
adultery
noun
sex between a married man or woman and someone he or she is not married to:

Merriam-Webster
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.
You quote the meaning of Adultery there, and yet you're blind to see it still?
How does the second wife involve adultery when she is married legally? undecided

Honestly, your confusion is shockingly shocking!

Adultery is sexual relationship BETWEEN A PERSON AND ANOTHER PERSON, WHO THEY ARE NOT MARRIED TO!

Arghn!

Oponu ni eleyi o! grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:52pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
See serpent on the move again!

Adultery and polygamy involves "partners". And Not partner! grin
And I think you have difficulty with English.
Partners or not partners, as long as you married them legally, it is not adultery.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:50pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
You are just describing yourself for every reasonable and normal person knows that adultery is sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

So how can a married person, marry again without committing adultery?

And how can an unmarried person, marry a married person person without committing adultery?
Wait, are you daft or just whining me?
How can a woman you marry make you an adulterer?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:05pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Now, you show you are a devil with your serpent twisting and blatantly lying because you have no reasonable argument to make.

You are the one saying God supported polygamy while I have been saying that God can never ever support it, because, it is adultery.

And Adultery is a sin!
You just keep twisting the Bible because what you are saying is the view and doctrines of your denomination!

Stop being blind to follow self-made doctrines without asking questions!

Define "Adultery" let me even see what you're shouting about. grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:01pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Now, you show you are a devil with your serpent twisting and blatantly lying because you have no reasonable argument to make.

You are the one saying God supported polygamy while I have been saying that God can never ever support it, because, it is adultery.

And Adultery is a sin!
And how does being with your lawfully wedded partner become adultery?
Or don't you even know the meaning of what you're saying?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 4:59pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
As long as Christ did not say a marriage is between male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females, you are the evil, son of Satan come to work your father's work.



God has Spoken against all the faces of sins and no body can do polygamy without committing the sin of Adultery and whorredom/harlotry! It is absolutely impossible.

Only a whorre/harlot/prostitute will marry a married man and only an adulterer will seek to marry another person.
Shut up my friend!
What is adultery?
You first explain that.

What is adultery?
Can't you even see how dumb you keep sounding?

Adultery
uk /əˈdʌl.tər.i/ us /əˈdʌl.tɚ.i/
noun
plural adulteries
Synonyms of adultery
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.


Now that the person is his wife or her husband, how does that relate to adultery?
This is you guys spread false doctrines all over the world, spitting self-made doctrines and binding the free with them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 4:49pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Here are 3

Exodus 20:14
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Deuteronomy 23:17 - There shall be no whorre of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
Now I see the kind of person I've been trying to talk to all these while!
You're a waste of time.

Where did any of these speak about polygamy?
Are you serious at all?

Do you even know what adultery is? undecided
Do you know what being a LovePeddler is?
Hebrews 13:4 even blasted your ignorance!!!

A man MARRIES two wives and you call that adultery? cheesy
You are a joke honestly.

Where do you worship even?
They have imparted the contorted self-made doctrines into you so badly!

Gosh!

All the verses you quoted do not even rhyme with your argument!
I think you must be a child… a very young child who is still learning from pastors that should still be under trainings!!

Education › Re: A School Teacher Did This To Your Son,as A Parent What Is Your Next Move ? by Westerhoffe(m): 1:48pm On Mar 20, 2024
He he he…
The teacher… he he he…

His/Her village people will look at him/her, place both hands on their head and say, "Chai! No be our handiwork be this one o, but we're impressed."

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 1:45pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
You are the one who turned God's Word into a lie especially as i asked you did the king does not fall from the sky? And you know they did not so you did not answer.

I also aaked "Looking at God's choices of kings, did He ever choose a man having 2 or more wives? Again, you refused to answer as you already know that He never did.

And all the people you cited as example did they.get the mark where God called them Perfect? Again, you had no answer as you already know that He never did.

Your attempt to reargue what you have already argued and lost just proves you have no valid case in the first place..

So, stop doing as Satan and stop inviting people to sin
If polygamy is a sin, show me where GOD called it a sin in the Bible.
If you can't, just shut up.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 1:15pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Another reargument.
You already asked this before and i answered
"which reasonable person does not see that this is God trying to solve the problem and evil caused by adultery by marriage, exactly how He proffered a solution when a man steals because he is hungry?"

Does that therefore mean that God supports the thief?

As i have said, you have no valid argument to make for you.have argued all that any reasonable person can argue and they do not hold.
So, you're saying GOD supported polygamy because of adultery?
I see you're so naive.

Show ke where GOD said polygamy is a sin in the Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 1:13pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Something I have already answered which is why you kept moving and moving until you no longer had any reasonable place to go. And because you can not believe that you have nothing to say, you are now looking for how you care save your embarrassment by truth to create a reargument by repeating yourself. And repetition just proves you have no grounds for arguing, so stop being a Satan.
SHOW ME WHERE GOD SAID POLYGAMY IS A SIN IN THE BIBLE.

Just one verse my child.
Just one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 1:11pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
See, looking for another way to argue since all your first attempt failed.

.

Did you not hear Him clearly Say that marriage is "male and female, created He them?

And not not male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females?
So, if marriage is not between a male and a female, can you tell me a third gender? undecided

GOD never for once spoke against polygamy.
Read the Bible and stop arguing blindly.
Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 1:09pm On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
Have you not already committed the sin like a person caught eating meat? Is it reasonable to order that the eaten meat be returned to the pot?

You have already committed the sin and right in the middle of it, so no need.
Stale and unreasonable.
If it is a sin, GOD would have included it in His commandments to them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 9:09am On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
You are the one who turned God's Word into a lie especially as i asked you did the king does not fall from the sky? And you know they did not so you did not answer.

I also aaked "Looking at God's choices of kings, did He ever choose a man having 2 or more wives? Again, you refused to answer as you already know that He never did.

And all the people you cited as example did they.get the mark where God called them Perfect? Again, you had no answer as you already know that He never did.

Your attempt to reargue what you have already argued and lost just proves you have no valid case in the first place..

So, stop doing as Satan and stop inviting people to sin
“IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:”
— Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV)


Why didn't GOD say the second wife here is a sin to the man?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 9:08am On Mar 20, 2024
Jokerman:
Only a non Christian will support Polygamy after Jesus Christ settled the matter in Matt 19:4
“IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:”
— Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV)


Why didn't GOD order the second wife be sent away here?
Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:58am On Mar 20, 2024
And show me where JESUS CHRIST condemned polygamy in the Bible, or where He said, "Ye shall not marry two wives for it is a sin unto the LORD thy GOD."
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 8:53am On Mar 20, 2024
Veecruz:
You are the one who turned God's Word into a lie especially as i asked you did the king does not fall from the sky? And you know they did not so you did not answer.

I also aaked "Looking at God's choices of kings, did He ever choose a man having 2 or more wives? Again, you refused to answer as you already know that He never did.

And all the people you cited as example did they.get the mark where God called them Perfect? Again, you had no answer as you already know that He never did.

Your attempt to reargue what you have already argued and lost just proves you have no valid case in the first place..

So, stop doing as Satan and stop inviting people to sin
I know you can't ever answer my questions nor have any reasonable counters to the previous comment of mine. That's why to save face you keep claiming and screaming sin, sin, sin…

Where did GOD command that thou shalt not take two wives?
Show me that in the Bible and I will retract my comments.
Where in the Bible did GOD pronounce polygamy as a sin?

What is the sin you're talking about here exactly?

But when he became king, he took him wives and concubines, and there was no time GOD ever challenged him not to until he took Bathsheba.

You don't know anything yet you keep arguing and hailing Satan.

SHOW ME WHERE GOD PRONOUNCED POLYGAMY AS A SIN IN THE BIBLE! OR YOU FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.
Politics › Re: Three Suspects Arrested In Connection With Killing Of 17 Soldiers In Delta by Westerhoffe(m): 7:45am On Mar 20, 2024
angry
Politics › Re: FG Names 15 Terrorism Financiers, BDCs, Plans Sanctions by Westerhoffe(m): 7:41am On Mar 20, 2024
Waiting for the names…which may never be named or mentioned.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 8:12pm On Mar 19, 2024
Veecruz:
There was no valid argument you could make after my answers for clearly, you have seen that the people God approved and even called Perfect are single or married to one wife in line with his Commandment of
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself,

Clearly.A Commandment speaking against and Prohibiting polygamy, but yet, you are the Satan come to lie and destroy, just as your father Satan did to man
You attacking the truth of the Word of GOD is the son of Satan here.

When GOD gave an order about 'kings', you twisted it and made it what you wish, and not according to the Word of GOD.

Abraham had 'wives' and 'concubines', yet GOD recognized him, blessed him, made a covenant with him, and his seed forever.
Abraham was called the friend of GOD. GOD never for once called Abraham the 'son of Satan' for having wives and 'concubines'.

Jacob had wives and concubines, and there is no time GOD ever told him He should never have them.


King David had wives, took more wives and concubines, and GOD never for once sent the Prophet Nathan to him to stop him, except for when he took Bathsheba.

Remember, all these men lived when the grace of GOD had not yet abound like today.

Now, are you in any way more knowledgeable, closer to GOD, serving GOD, a true follower of GOD, faithful to GOD, honored GOD, worshipped GOD, loved GOD more than or like any of these men? NO!

Did GOD ever speak/converse with you like or than any of these men? NO!!

Does GOD even know you at all? If so, what is your proof that GOD recognizes you?

And yet, GOD spoke good about these men with His mouth with a living confirmation that echoes till today.

And here you are calling me son of Satan for being on the LORD'S side!
But I am not of Satan.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 5:11pm On Mar 19, 2024
Veecruz:
Stop being a serpent!
Is he not first among them before he is separated and singled out?

Were king Saul, David, Solomon not anong his brethren before God separated them or did he fall from the sky?

Stop being evil as Satan. Sin alone and stop inviting others to join you in your sins, for their bloods and deaths will be on your head just like Satan.
"Serpent, snake, Satan…"

I see you really love Satan that much to always include its name in all your comments.

I won't even read this epistle of yours because you ain't making any sense in the others. So it's pointless arguing with an unreasonable being.

What had been written, had been written.

"GOD NEVER SPOKE AGAINST POLYGAMISTS".


Do whatever you want.

Good day.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 11:12pm On Mar 18, 2024
Veecruz:
Stop being a Satan,

Do you not see the word "from among thy brethren" and the king does not fall from the sky?

Does Deut 17:14 not clearly say to THE PEOPLE, via "when thou enters the land Igave to thee "? Did it say "when the king enters the land i gave to him?

Is everyone there not capable of being the king chosen so far as they are not in breach of this Law of wives?

Looking at God's choices of kings, did He ever choose a man having 2 or more wives

You are being evil doing exactly what Satan did to Female Adam bringing the death.of mankind, So if you are called a devil, it would be right.



See how you have run away with the goal post and brought a different one.

First you clearly.said ",there is no place in the Bible where GOD instructs any Christian to never take more than one wife" but now that you have seen you are wrong, you have changed post, exavtly.how devils always change post when they lose the argument especially when we all know that God hates every unrightness and wickedness and evil and corruption and injustice and defilement and has clearly told us whether He specifically states every unrighteosness or not.

So, your attempt to change the standard of proof, fails woefully.



Another departure from post but for the sakes of those following the thread i'll answer.

Did God call any of these perfect, such that you can truly say that these men represent God's Standard? No!

The men God who represent God's Standard who God verily declared as righteous and PERFECT are men who had only one wives or none at all. AND THEY ARE NOAH, JOB AND DANIEL

AND THEY WERE NOT KINGS!!!


So, again, you are being evil as Satan. Sin alone and stop inviting others to join you in your sins, for their bloods and deaths will be on your head just like Satan.
Stop being an Anti-GOD. "From among thy brethren" means the person is singled out.

Everyone can not be the king. Stop thinking with your anus and use your brains for once.
It did not say there, "You all" but to "the king".

You see your life? Keep ranting like a Chihuahua.
GOD'S choices for kings you ask? Did GOD dethrone them for taking more than one wife?

They don't represent GOD'S standard?

This is what GOD told David after the issue of Bathsheba:


2 Samuel 12 (KJV)
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
⁷ And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
⁸ And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.


Attacking the truth of the Bible makes you the Satan here.

And about your frequent daft quote of sinning alone, oh goodness, can't you see how daft you sound?

If marrying more than one wife had been a sin, do you think the LORD JESUS CHRIST would not have addressed it?
Crime › Re: Investigative Journalist, PIDOMNIGERIA Shares Photos From Onslaught In Bayelsa by Westerhoffe(m): 6:14pm On Mar 18, 2024
Nigeria is already staggering to experience another of this.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Troops Raid Gaza's Al Shifa Hospital(photos) by Westerhoffe(m): 6:06pm On Mar 18, 2024
Tetraozonaitera:
Aswear! Never in their lives will they ever go wake a sleeping Bingo.
But now, they'd be wishing they could lay their hands on a nuke.
Christianity Etc › Re: New Changes For Jehovah's Witness: Women Can Wear Trousers, Men Must Not Wear.. by Westerhoffe(m): 6:04pm On Mar 18, 2024
advocatejare:
They are viewing the thread but are ashamed to make comments
They won't…
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Troops Raid Gaza's Al Shifa Hospital(photos) by Westerhoffe(m): 3:59pm On Mar 18, 2024
Hamas will definitely have a rethink when next they think of attacking Israel again in the future if this war should ever come to a halt.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 3:50pm On Mar 18, 2024
Veecruz:
This is how you fall in life and everything and start blaming yourself, your parents, your country, God, everything.

Is a king, bishop, deacon not first "a one" and "a person"? Do they fall down from the skies?




Firstly, this is off point and departure from post for the argument is whether "a king is not a one and a person among the people of Israel and not "if any has 2 wives"

Secondly, which reasonable person does not see that this is God trying to solve the problem and evil caused by adultery by marriage, exactly how He proffered a solution when a permanent steals because he is hungry?

If you were reasonable and just as a Christian should be you would have known that there is no reasonable argument you can make and that you are just being evil in plotting how to cover your sin of adultery.

Stop being a Satan, sin alone and stop inviting others to join you in your sins, for their bloods and deaths will be on your head just like Satan.
I see you definitely have issues with English language or you're just being daft or what?

Read the Bible quotes here and see for yourself!

Deuteronomy 17 (KJV)
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¹⁵ Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
¹⁶ But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
¹⁷ Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
¹⁸ And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites:


Was it written there for the PEOPLE or the KINGS? undecided

Cover sin with adultery? cheesy cheesy cheesy
Was GOD angry with David for marrying more than one wife?

Was GOD angry with Abraham for having wives and CONCUBINES? Or you don't know Abraham had CONCUBINES?

Did GOD ever for once tell Jacob(Israel) that, "You have sinned for marrying two wives who were even siblings!"

Don't be silly.
Most of you are just so engulfed in engaging in blind arguments.

Read the Bible yourself and stop displaying your foul ignorance here online.

Show me where GOD said in the Bible, "Thou shalt not marry two wives! For it is a sin unto the LORD thy GOD!" and I will delete this post.

You that should still be under teaching is here arguing!

Gosh!
Christianity Etc › Re: New Changes For Jehovah's Witness: Women Can Wear Trousers, Men Must Not Wear.. by Westerhoffe(m): 10:58am On Mar 18, 2024
advocatejare:
I’m surprised that the nuisance called MaxInDHouse is mute on this thread, if it’s another thread you’d have seen him displaying his foolery there. Gbajue

Oh, maybe the gbajue has changed his moniker to Maximus692 grin
All those I quoted are nowhere to be found on this thread as at the time I made the last comment you quoted.

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