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PoliticsRe: Achebe On Awolowo: Has He Gone Too Far? by whitecat007: 3:27pm On Oct 10, 2012
Portharcourt does not belong to ibos. So its where will iboland be? a landlocked region with erosion problem.
dewize01: prophet of doom,na ur papa create am?where wil port harcourt be?
PoliticsRe: Achebe On Awolowo: Has He Gone Too Far? by whitecat007: 3:22pm On Oct 10, 2012
There you go, same old recycled BS grin grin grin grin grin lying through your teeth is what you ibos do best, congrat!
See question ooo. I thought Awo was involved, and he already gave his own account which is more believable than the one coming from a dimwit like achebe.
safarigirl: Achebe has said his thoughts, Ken Saro-Wiwa did same, of all the Yoruba authors, how many have wrtten their own version of the war?

Prof. Corruption, why don't you take your intelligent arguments to a publisher? Were you there when this war happened? Did you have a first-hand experience or are your arguments based on what you read or heard on the radio? only those who were directly affected by this war know what really happened, it's not through what you read on wikipedia or some other random site that you assume you're a sage on the matter, and yes, there will be biased views, for those who were in the heat of the war, it was an injustice, for those who were eating amala and ewedu in the comforts of their home, it's all fair in love and war, so people shouldn't come here trying to sound smart.

No Yoruba person will ever understand this war because they have never had 3 million people wiped out fighting for a cause they believe in, hell, i doubt they've ever believed in squat! You'll come here and defend awolowo on line, but if e reach to fight, you no dey, and don't give me that cr.ap bout being too intelligent, cos it's not like your intelligence has gotten anyone anywhere. it is sentiments that take people to war, whether some admit this or not.

I had a history teacher who was Yoruba, and he never stops singing the praises of Biafrans, as far as he's concerned, for a black nation to go to war with world powers, create their own ammunition and hold strong for three years, is an achievement in it's own right, many have not lasted that long, and no other black nation in this world can equal that.

Nigeria's engine has failed, all the awos, ojukwus are dead, Gowon is a mallam, he will say what benefits his people, plus he's the one who committed the crimes, so it's not like he won't vindicate himself.
PoliticsRe: Achebe On Awolowo: Has He Gone Too Far? by whitecat007: 3:02pm On Oct 10, 2012
You are a stupid A*ss n*igger, cheesy grin grin what is wrong with you, or do you think everyone here is an slowpoke like you? you typed as if you are at a gun point speaking english to appease ibos and then Yoruba in 360 or have you been kidnapped by ibos? if you are surrounded by ibos, then you should not be making any comment at all cos some of us don't like it when people double saying anything. If your life is in danger get out of there cos there is no amount of money worth human life unless of course you have taken after ibos drive to make money at all cost. I don't go where i am not allowed to speak my mind.
politician: That Achebe( a distinguished citizen) had made a similar remarks 30yrs ago and now reiterating it in his memoir shows it is his personal opinion on that issue.

Going through the arguments, Ȋ̝̊̅ can deduct the following!!

A) the igbos expected the yoruba to help with the war

B) the yorubas and any other person that acted I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ any way against the Igbos during the war are betrayers

C)awolowo is a murderer, he killed millions of children and women without firing a shot. (Via policy) and also impoverish the igbos with economic policy!thereby guilty of committing a war crime.

D)the yorubas that fought with Igbos are not betraying their own people. They are Good people.

E)the igbos felt wronged by the awo policy and ter it attempted genocide!!

MY TAKE PLS

I am a yoruba man staying I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ the east and Ȋ̝̊̅ can at least to an extent measure the feelings of the igbos towards the odua nation!!

It is not of bitterness but betrayal, the igbos feel betrayed by a fellow southerner. People they felt shared a common fate with them. Hence the word, COWARDS!!
We don't have to go into the rhetorics of who is right or wrong now, the feeling is of a lost-relationship!!

@ Prof, ur arguments are very concise and logical but we as yoruba people need to know that ' igi imu jina si ori'' awa ati won osi ninu egbe!!

@desola
E je ka pe were loko iyawo ki a ri ona lo!!

After 40 years, won si n sun ekun.
Enu ni won ni bi ti aje akara!
eni ti o ba to eeyan to n dena deni, ajekun iya ni o maa je!!


Leave achebe alone, its his view!! A sa jeun!! Iwe yen ni lati make sales now!!

Eyin eyan yii gan buru juu!! Yoruba!! Haba!!

Omo tiyin nikan ni awolowo to pa eyan 3M lai yibon kan,
eyin naa ni obasanjo terror,
ni Tinubu to n da ilu ru,
wole ti o gba nobel!!

E pari owe yii, ati dade kiniun...

Pinrin ko si oshi, ara won ni oshi wa!!!
PoliticsRe: Achebe On Awolowo: Has He Gone Too Far? by whitecat007: 3:02pm On Oct 10, 2012
You are a stupid A*ss n*igger, cheesy grin grin what is wrong with you, or do you think everyone here is an slowpoke like you? you typed as if you are at a gun point speaking english to appease ibos and then Yoruba in 360 or have you been kidnapped by ibos? if you are surrounded by ibos, then you should not be making any comment at all cos some of us don't like it when people double saying anything. If your life is in danger get out of there cos there is no amount of money worth human life unless of course you have taken after ibos drive to make money at all cost. I don't go where i am not allowed to speak my mind.
politician: That Achebe( a distinguished citizen) had made a similar remarks 30yrs ago and now reiterating it in his memoir shows it is his personal opinion on that issue.

Going through the arguments, Ȋ̝̊̅ can deduct the following!!

A) the igbos expected the yoruba to help with the war

B) the yorubas and any other person that acted I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ any way against the Igbos during the war are betrayers

C)awolowo is a murderer, he killed millions of children and women without firing a shot. (Via policy) and also impoverish the igbos with economic policy!thereby guilty of committing a war crime.

D)the yorubas that fought with Igbos are not betraying their own people. They are Good people.

E)the igbos felt wronged by the awo policy and ter it attempted genocide!!

MY TAKE PLS

I am a yoruba man staying I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ the east and Ȋ̝̊̅ can at least to an extent measure the feelings of the igbos towards the odua nation!!

It is not of bitterness but betrayal, the igbos feel betrayed by a fellow southerner. People they felt shared a common fate with them. Hence the word, COWARDS!!
We don't have to go into the rhetorics of who is right or wrong now, the feeling is of a lost-relationship!!

@ Prof, ur arguments are very concise and logical but we as yoruba people need to know that ' igi imu jina si ori'' awa ati won osi ninu egbe!!

@desola
E je ka pe were loko iyawo ki a ri ona lo!!

After 40 years, won si n sun ekun.
Enu ni won ni bi ti aje akara!
eni ti o ba to eeyan to n dena deni, ajekun iya ni o maa je!!


Leave achebe alone, its his view!! A sa jeun!! Iwe yen ni lati make sales now!!

Eyin eyan yii gan buru juu!! Yoruba!! Haba!!

Omo tiyin nikan ni awolowo to pa eyan 3M lai yibon kan,
eyin naa ni obasanjo terror,
ni Tinubu to n da ilu ru,
wole ti o gba nobel!!

E pari owe yii, ati dade kiniun...

Pinrin ko si oshi, ara won ni oshi wa!!!
PoliticsRe: Achebe On Awolowo: Has He Gone Too Far? by whitecat007: 2:36pm On Oct 10, 2012
You are an enemy of progress.Nigeria is not working cos of tribaism, we need to go our separate ways. There are nigerians married to foreigners, you just need to choose where you want to live.
fellory: I have read every comment on this thread.All the accusations and counter accusations.But we need to move ahead.This serves no purpose.I used to wonder why my friend chigozie while growing up hated Awolowo but now I get the reasson.It is apparent we have all been fed information differently.Whatever happened back then should be confined to the dustbin of history.It is time to move ahead.We can no longer divide this country.We have become one and that should be clear to everyone of us.When boko haram is eventually conquered and another renegade group does not spring up again maybe we will have peace in Nigeria.I do mot want to require a visa when I visit anywhere outside the west.We have so intermarried that it is impossible to determine what will happen to these families.Even if we part there will still be communal fighting and mutual suspicion will never depart from the mind of a blackman.Ezza/Ezillo are they not igbos,aguleri/umuleri,ife/modakeke.I lost a guy I admired and respected to the ife/modakeke war.He was a med student and was killed just because the father happened to be on the other side.Please peeps am awake and typing on my fone at this hour because I can almost touch the hatred oozing out of here.Our common enemy should be our thieving leaders whethet PDP,CAN whatever party they belong to.

Long Live the FRN
PoliticsRe: Achebe On Awolowo: Has He Gone Too Far? by whitecat007: 2:11pm On Oct 10, 2012
THANK YOU. I was so moved by this and actually shed tears.
Prof Corruption: The only Nigerian with GCFR without being a president. The man whose picture is on the currency you spend.
The man who won civil war for Nigeria without borrowing a kobo. The man who formulated the policies that brought Biafra to her knees.
The man who built the first TV station in Africa, the first social security system in Africa.
The man who conceptualize the institution known as OAU today.
A man who built industrial estates in Western Nigeria. A man who introduced the very first free education policy in Nigeria.


A man who was a family man to the call. He had just one wife! a faithful husband, an astute organiser, a political wizard, a fearless sage,
intelligence personified, the real fear of Igbo. A man who even in death remains the Nigerian issue. A man who came, saw and conquered.

Awolowo rest in peace.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STQXnKSUB4s


When are they going to throw Bianca out of her residence by misguided Ojukwu sons? What a completely worthless life.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 1:33pm On Oct 10, 2012
iboland is the modern day sodom and gomorrah with all sins that are known to men, the gay and lesbian capital of nigeria.
If you are not brain dead you will know that more ibos have been killed by the north everywhere in nigeria more than all other tribes combined. Hausas do not call us names as soon they fill their stomach with akpu and are threatening to drive us out of our land, so ibos are our bigger enemy than Hausas.
We are calling your bluff now and also waiting for an opportunity to strike. The whole war is watching you ask for this, so no mercy. Half of ibos in lagos will die, the ibos in other SW states will leave before the fight only to go and die on the highway. My goodness, ibos who remain in SW if these things get out of hand will be food for the gods. There is so much hate now unlike 1967, as you know the people overkill during the fight of passion. keep running your mouth coward as you will be the first to bolt like your warlord who boasted to the world and later dressed in Yoruba attire to flee and left his people to their fate.
Ngodigha1: Shut up your smelly mouth, lesbiano. On daily basis, abokis slaughter one yoruba or another even right there in the s.west and the cowards do nothing. Like I warned you guys, Togo and Benin may be to small to accommodate 2o million yoruba refuges that will be fleeing there. Try it.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 7:46am On Oct 10, 2012
Your stupidity is so sticky it can hold a boulder in the air. what can i say if you did not see the part where he went to school in the evening. why will any one go to school after work back in those days if he didn't know the importance of education. Ha ibos!!!
kettykin: Awolowo worked 8 years as motor park tout aka agbero and went to evening school.

How can someone who went to an evening school and worked partly as a motor park tout give what he does not have Education to yourbas , little wonder that despite their education and not having been throu genocide or through marginalisation has not been able to leverage with those whom he tried wiping out through genocide and those who have been exploited
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 7:31am On Oct 10, 2012
why the absurd comparison? one was assassination and the other was war. ibos, always going in circle. Hmmnn!! Could it be that you ibos don't know any better for real?
kettykin: If all is really fair in War how come Almustapha and other Abacha Hit men are being held for killing MKO Abiola's wife and other NADECO chieftains who breached the constitution of Nigeria by declaring MKO the winner of an inconclusive election, a highly treasonable crime.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 7:21am On Oct 10, 2012
Awo was not on biafra side, so how could he have betrayed you? one thing you don't know is that speaking ill of the dead especially the way they exited the world is something you don't want to lie about. Lying that Awolowo ate rat poison can shorten your life. I know you feel invisible but when the trouble comes you are going to start calling on the blood that warned you in the first place. write it down you are going to be hunted big time.
Ngodigha1: Awo's daughter should be more disappointed about her father's betrayal and sudden swallow of rat powder.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 7:04am On Oct 10, 2012
it is because of people like you that these animals bash yoruba. how i wish i can b*itch slap you p*.ussy whipped. your parents must regret the day you were born cos ibo asewo has repeatedly beaten your head with some dirty p*anties to the extent that you don't know what time it is, OMO ALE. ibos call yoruba women names, all you said is to make ibo women feel important. may that woman in your life stab in your sleep.
kennysbst: Una never tire!at least una do better,dan my expectations.ok take it or leave it,nothing can separate Yorubas and Igbo because now we do have common blood flow among us.hw I wish my lovely Nkechi can read my commence after d whole bombarded commence!
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 6:42am On Oct 10, 2012
baboons are of ibo stock, same hairy family.
Ngodigha1: Because you behave and think like animals. I hope that settles in your empty skull, Yorubanised baboon.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 6:26am On Oct 10, 2012
What are you waiting for? you should be showing us your tail light on the way to hague. Shior! as if those Judges do not have enough frivolous cases to hear.
ikeyman00: get this in ur Yoruba goni skull right for once in ur life time

this is not about wether Achebe lost credibility i think its about facing the fact

ur credible man awofrog committed war crime and should be allowed to face justice living or dead

justice is justice

simple as that; full stop; this is not about who lick Tinubu balls most u know

this isnt rocket science, going by all the evidence from the british, the on lookers, ur awo statement, the white people; the soldiers that fought the war; cross-examing the credible evidence u will agree a crime has be committed; simple as that and ur man should be hang in Hague

should Biafra has to rise then the British got a case to worry ! cuz they played their role as well

make no mistake awo frog deserve to be fried up in jail wether he is loved by Yoruba shouldnt be an issue cuz this is the way Serbians in the Balkan loves their man
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 6:14am On Oct 10, 2012
This is exact tone we Yoruba need to get these bullies off our backs. thank heavens most of us know that bullies must be punched in between eyes.
Yoruba home and abroad, its your call, either we allow ibos to walk all over us or we put them in their place.
ilugunboy: Well we did it....!!! we starved Igbos.......we will deploy the strategy again if there is ever any reason for it.

We accept we did it...but weren't gonna apologize for it. cool cool
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 5:18am On Oct 10, 2012
I'm not a coward like you. My other Ids are Epalos and goddess12 and i have not used them ever since i got whitecat007.[quote author=Real-Mccoy]Honestly, already?? your probably the same troll that makes all those other ridiculous accounts. Its pretty pathetic how much time you have spent making emails accounts to follow yourself and "like" what ever garbage you said....lol[/quote]
PoliticsRe: The Problem With Achebe! by whitecat007: 5:08am On Oct 10, 2012
Uhhh!!! its hot in here!
PoliticsRe: Is It Too Late For Nigeria? by whitecat007: 3:24am On Oct 10, 2012
IT IS. Nigeria needs to be divided into five. Yoruba,Middle belt,Biafra,North and Niger-Delta.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:56am On Oct 08, 2012
why don't you login with your other id to apologize on their behalf just like two of your brothers have previously done here?
Solozzo: Not sure of the details, but there was clear indication of genocide against the Igbo tribe, even before the war broke out and this was the driving force for the declaration of the Biafra nation. Clearly any senior govt minister like awolowo may have given some genocidal advice,. Awo was not a saint. The family of awo should feel disappointed in their patriarch and apologise on his behalf.

Achebe only weaved history into his writings, the truth we all knew.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:52am On Oct 08, 2012
hehehe! your tail has caught fire.
Chimanet: ask my ogojo and ijaw friend. they will tell you that yorubas can never love any good thing from anybody that doest speek yoruba atleast. no that that we r best but at least we r liberal and not too tribalistic in general
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:49am On Oct 08, 2012
what has value of the dead got to do with the topic. For all i care you can leave your dead body for vulture to devour.
Chimanet: yeap, in igboland we value our dead, so hw does that 1 concern u?
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:44am On Oct 08, 2012
and he will soon come and get you grin grin[quote author=Wily+Wily]For Real, Awolowo is in Hell Now[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:23am On Oct 08, 2012
We are watching you do just that.
Chimanet: Can never support evil in my life
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:19am On Oct 08, 2012
Right! reason iboland is in desolate, the blood of those sacrificed at the alter of greed is crying out.
Diligence: Lesson learnt: whateva u say or do, just know that someday u will be held liable for it and it may just be ur children suffering all the shame.

Justice demands that war criminals like obasanjo, gowon, adekunle and co shld be brot to book and esp awolowo shld be tried posthumously!

U can fight war but there is what is called WAR CRIME! U cannot block medical and food supplies to nursing mother and children and hv a clear conscience b4 God and man and any1 who chooses to look elsewhere today, shall suffer d same fate awolowo suffered!

The blood of those innocent children and their mothers are crying for justice everyday, everywhere in Nigeria!
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:13am On Oct 08, 2012
BIG LIE oo!!! 50cents did not know anything about that book till achebe agbaya approached him, achebe was treated the same way whites would treat blacks here in issues like that to avoid ether being called racist or prejudice against poor africans. Please find another lie.
With $50m achebe will match entire ibo nation into a gas chamber, trust ibos.
Mr Everest: Achebe broke? This is the most ridiculous text i have read so far, someone that rejected millions of dollars that was offered by 50 cent just to use the name of his book in a movie and you call him broke?
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 4:02am On Oct 08, 2012
Even the arabs won't let any black man lead them in prayer, is that also trust issue? You are the original ODE.[quote author=Real-Mccoy]Ofenmanu, there is a reason Northerners don't allow your muslim brothers to lead them in prayers....Trust issues you know....lol[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 3:57am On Oct 08, 2012
You know that your people begged for Abuja airport to be named after zik just as you are begging now for kaduna academy to be named after ojukwu. The abuja airport was just to give you shallow minded ibos false sense of belonging not on merit. The north was tired of your whining.[quote author=Real-Mccoy]You are a dumb fhuck Prof Oluwole. I will take Fela over that Chameleon any day. Fela's burial was well attended and he is liked by all Nigerians yet his monument are no where in naija, does that justify your low IQ? Awo's is still a regional champion. How many international airports named after him? He is not recognized outside his region accept truth and move on.[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 1:59am On Oct 08, 2012
You are ibo so spare me that story.
madridsta007: You know I am Igbo... Through Harry Potter sun-glasses? The fact that a Yoruba doesn't identify with Awo does it make him less a Yoruba? Do you think Wole Soyinka and Adeniran Ogunsanya identifies with Awo? Or Obj?
Smh
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 1:51am On Oct 08, 2012
You begged the FG to help you as you did not have money to bury him. Awo family did not allow the FG to come near him for it would have been an insult on Awo, spot the difference dadandindin. [quote author=Real-Mccoy]To summaries your inept fraudulent post, Ojukwu was given a state burial while Awo was given an emergency burial. Bunch of dysfunctional breed from Obj,Tinubu and late MKO all bunch of bastards and ex convicts. Why can't you guys stand truth? It will not reduce the amount of egunje you collect from hardworking bus drivers on Oshodi bridge.[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 1:45am On Oct 08, 2012
Well! if you kill by sword, you should be ready to die by one. I do NOT feel sorry for criminals. credit card fraud is just like any other serious crime. Some victims have committed suicide over loosing everything they have worked for, and guess what, their blood are on the fraudsters. So to your questions, they shouldn't only be deported but first make them suffer in prison. Tell all your family members involve that they are not going to get away with it.[quote author=Real-Mccoy]I wonder if Britain will deport those yoruba credit card fraudsters in England also?[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 1:30am On Oct 08, 2012
Tell us the company that is pumping oil in iboland and the villages and the rest for nairalanders to judge. Do that or shut up.[quote author=Yeske!]Are you for real or new here?[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 12:55am On Oct 08, 2012
Just name the villages where oil are pumped and name of the companies that are drilling. I will then come back here to tell nairalanders my findings. you think its still back in the days when the rest of nigeria thought anything after ore is iboland.
Ngodigha1: There is oil in 5 out of 7 states of Igboland, poor girl.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by whitecat007: 12:47am On Oct 08, 2012
No amount of propaganda will help divert crowd to the book. we all know nothing good comes out of iboland, you ibos have perfected the art of lying.
madridsta007: Have we all, who are arguing and insulting ourselves about Achebe's book, have you all read his book? Not so-called extracted comments, but have we read his book?

Some days ago some section of the Muslim world were protesting, burning and killing over a movie done in America about Prophet Mohammed. Many of Nairalanders condemned and vilified the protesters, many saying that it is absurd protesting over a film they have not watched or would not watch? We laughed and mocked at those protesting Muslims.

In the light of this recent happening, do you all think you are more holier than the killers and protesters you all condemned some days ago?

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