₦airaland Forum

philips70:
Well...Did Rochas really loot his state dry or these are just some accusations borne out of sentiments? I would want citizens at this moment hold on to the anti-corruption crusade of GMB and ask for an all encompassing probe of everyone who have been in government recently. If Rochas or anyone is found guilty they should be punished accordingly and our monies retrieved. It is something that can be done, it just needs the voice of everyone and not all this ethnic jingo going on here and there. Question is if Goodluck won this elections will we still be asking for all these? It all looks like subtle escape and amnesty for all those who just looted the country dry.

WaffenSS:
Nigeria is geopolitically divided as it fits the narrative of the moment. Sometimes there's just north vs south, sometimes its north, south, and east, and so on.

The military dictators of whom you gripe about have only 3 from the socalled core north. The rest were from the north central (or middle belt, when convenient).

Our political history has always laid the failures of political leadership on the heads of the military rulers, so when democracy came about in 1999 we thought that finally we've got the chance to make things right.

Its 2015 now, and we've been running a democracy for16 years. In those 16 years, the south has ruled for 14years.

14 years is more than enough time to put so many things right.

So the failure of this democracy, these wasted 14 years, these endless series of social, economic, and political problems are rooted in southern misrule.

The perennial whipping boy, the "aboki", should not be held responsible for your perceived woes.

Its now up to you to convince us how GEJ was a blessing to the south (or ss/se, as is the trend now) beyond the morsels of federal appointments you find so insulting.

Ritchiee:
you are welcome but as much as I love Jonathan, he played the tribal politics and the North capitalised on that..as I said...the big question... how does the South come together politically?a million pound question...


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atlwireles:
It's well, things happened for a greater purpose. The next chapter has started already, without this election, I doubt if it were possible.

XRAY21:
he did not even read the write up b4 he commented o

after1:
Bros, be honest. Is there any need for that his post. This is nairaland and anyone can contribute to any thread. Why is contribution from others labelled derailing of thread, too bad.

torkaka:
1) . . . . . . . .what CONFAB? I hope you are not referring to that assembly where money was doled to politicians?

2) . . . . . . . .have you ever heard me ask for protection or PM anyone on nairaland? . . . . . .we all know the party that played 'money' 2015

3) . . . . . . . .the key word is 'hope' . . . . . . .same way you hoped GMB will lose . . . . . . .maybe mine tops yours

4) . . . . . . . .its a forum, I tap in once in a while . . . . . . . . . .but I don't make it my means of survival like you and yours

after1:
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Shut up. You are very wicked and deceptive. The thread is up for discussion, go to your forum if you want a discussion of only SS/SE. Counter the so called half truth with point just like the OP is doing instead of being whinning like a raped cat. You want to keep spreading your wicked lies without being challenged, its only those that dont know the real you that do fall for your fake ways.

This is nairaland and not barcaland where you can feed the gullibles with your lies. Chameleon.

Mynd44:
Is that a resignation that you have nothing? You people love to play your silly tribal politics, blow hot air and issue threats.

When asked to face issues, you run till your feet hurt as usual

timota:
mr man what u don't know is that nigerians needed change urgently and anyone that wanted to stop that change could have been crushed. It's unlike u are an igbo man let me tell u this is the first time igbbo are in the opposition and u are crying, in first republic u join tafawa belewa against awolowo, etc

Ritchiee:
The simplest solution is for the South to come together as one.

Mynd44:
You keep saying how I made tribal comments. Me that I even promoted that I don't mind a Lagos with an Igbo deputy governor as long as it is based on merit and you are here posting crap.

Please don't confuse me with your fellow tribal warlords. I am well beyond that

philips70:
He should have left it open in my opinion. He bungled it, let the people speak and decide. Is that not what many of you want and lots have died for? He chose to be a nice guy, after all he's already rich and he doesn't need a republic to become richer. Like someone said here earlier all this talk of restructuring and federalism would have been uncalled for if we had sincere leaders who managed all we are given to develop our region. Our problems are useless leaders. Even if they give us 100% greedy leaders will still corner all and what we will have are richer strong people while the masses will continue to suffer.

IyaIode:
Are we going into the SE vs SW thing again? Sometimes i feel you guys don't have to courage to leave.

Mynd44:
Lets take bets...point to my posts that are tribal..


Dig and bring them out

OrlandoOwoh:
You're the one bringing the South East into. Did the PDP governors in the south tell their representatives in the confab to work for the interest of the north?

anonimi:
Not to worry at all.

Mr. Integrity himself, Buhari promised true fiscal federalism since 2011 and with an assured majority in both senate and house of reps, it should be automatic passage!



www.nairaland.com/attachments/2343594_buharitruefederalismpromise_jpegc85970dabfc1bf2df5d730398a429913

Mynd44:
Now this revolutional and collosal tribalist is famzing the SE that he has effortlessly insulted?

Please you people should stop clowning abeg

torkaka:
. . . . . . . . . . .Mr man, Jonathan was the poster child of 'anti' true federalism . . . . . . . . . .you supported him dearly . . . . . . . . . .he lost, and now (due to joblessness) you turn to a pro-true federalism advocate . . . . . . . . . . . .it's easy to discern the ethnic mask all over your face . . . . . . . . . . . . .your brother lost and you can't bring yourself to believe that all you bragged about was in vain . . . . . . . . . . . ."woe to our youths, for they are freely up for sale"

Horlufemi:
Orubebe's spirit is dead and buried. Orubebe even admitted his error.

https://www.nairaland.com/2314897/forensic-analysis-orubebes-drama

Mynd44:
1. I would have prefered Kwankwaso yes. I am not a pro GEJ but a GEJout person. Now when delegates voted and voted Buhari what should the party do? Not accept him?

2. Forget the confab. What bill was sponsored in the house?

3. So because everyone in the SE is Igbo mean it is the same elsewhere? Again all in the SE are not Igbo. If you have lived somewhere for 7 years, you can claim to be from there which means the Fulani or Tiv guy is as much from the SE as someone who was born there

4. Read these
https://www.nairaland.com/2232367/seemingly-insurmountable-odds-against-jimi

And
https://www.nairaland.com/2099922/igbo-deputy-governor-lagos-what

And tell me what my view on Agbaje wastage

Gbawe:
What truth? The "truth" the OP was somehow prevented from telling to GEJ in the five years he was President? Real men who are honorable, brave and upright make decision they live and die by. This is a democracy. Some voted for GEJ and others voted for Buhari. Why can those who voted GEJ not simply accept the loss, wish Nigeria well under Buhari and move on as many of us did in 2011 even when we did not support GEJ who won back then?

Why has this loss of GEJ now suddenly reminded some of "true fiscal federalism" and the need to "regionalize" Nigeria? Sensible Nairalanders should not remain here indulging this dishonest, deceitful and hypocritical crybaby OP and others like him. I personally admire stand-up guys who throw blows and take blows. You bragged before the elections and have now lost. Why not show civility by at least giving Buhari time to show what he can do before the deceitful antics of are rolled out redolent of the behavior of sour losers? Have they given Buhari a chance to lead before they begin talking of "injustice"?

The forum, below, can see the same OP strutting arrogantly in defence of GEJ before the election. The GEJ he is defending below and asking Nigerians to retain in power has never acted as if he is interested in "true fiscal federalism" or the idea of "regionalizing" Nigeria. If anything, GEJ was the poster child of central profligacy/patronage/largesse at the expense of devolving power to other tiers of the federation. Jonathan lived for bloated and wastful central governance with power, wealth and might inordinately concentrated in the centre to the detriment of other tiers of our federation like States. If any of these GEJ supporters were honorable, they would spare us this post-election revisionism which is not only patronising but highly deceitful and amoral. For the sake of brevity, and because I trust well-informed Nairalanders will know what I mean, this Op is the biggest hypocrite on Nairaland because the same GEJ he wanted to carry on leading Nigeria did exactly the opposite of what will deliver all that the OP is now deceitfully claiming he wants for Nigeria.

The essence of 'outing' this hypocrite is that Nairalanders need to know that there exist a category of educated yet hateful and ethnocentric Nigerians who conveniently and deliberately see no evil while their own is in charge. They even hankered passionately for the ultra-corrupt and totally inept GEJ to remain President, never mind he was only succeeding at turning Nigeria into Somalia fast. They never put all these demands before GEJ in 5 years yet they suddenly remember the 'injustice' of Nigeria now that GEJ has been voted out.

They then patronisingly think they can hide behind the usual rhetoric of "true fiscal federalism" and "regionalism" when it is obvious to intelligent folks that these dishonorable posters are merely bitter losers who had no problem with all that GEJ stood for yesterday even when that is the opposite of what they claim to want today. Yeye, and hypocrisy, dey smell. The OP asks below what GEJ is not addressing. Yet we know, in five years as President, that GEJ certainly did not address all he demands here. Nonetheless he supported GEJ unquestioningly. This reveals that the likes of the OP, despite their pretensions to erudition, are nothing but clannish element perpetually devoted to their ethnic affiliation than to developmental political ideology.

https://www.nairaland.com/2055380/why-buhari-not-fight-corruption/1

OrlandoOwoh:
Yet Jonathan has been effecting last minute changes and implementation of policies. Why did he not implement the confab report? You people need to do some soul searching.

IyaIode:
Wish you all the best, catalonia has been at the UN before i was born, same for Palestine. Again good luck while uduagan, Orji, dickson, elechi continue the looting spree and you point fingers to the north.

philips70:
Why did Jonathan, a prominent son of the south, the president of the federal republic of Nigeria convene a national conference and gave an irrevocable standing order not to touch the very questions which his people have been fighting and died for?

Mynd44:
1. Define new leaders. Donald Duke was fresh. Fashola is fresh. Sanusi is fresh. Why cant the new people with aspirations step up to contest for the primaries? Desmond Elliot showed that you can make it. How cone others did not come out? I find it insulting that the PDP had Donald Duke and we had to contend with thieving charlatans.

2) The PDP has been at the centre and the had both houses of assembly too. Why did those leaders not push for that? Tinubu has been screaming federalism for almost 12 years and failed to recognise that. Why?

3) This country cannot be regonalised because our regions do not define us. Not everyone in the SE is Igbo. Not everyone in the SW is Yoruba. Divisions are all over. We are citizens of Nigeria and we live in states and not regions. When you guys attempt to divide the country into 6, you become a bunch of tribal warlords

4) I see myself as part of a well growing Nation where corruption is not our problem. Where I can be of Igbo descent and contest for governorship in Kano. Where I can be from Abia state and the family of my Anambra GF wont say I am not good enough because I am from Ngwa

GrammarPolicee:
by hiding behind ur keyboard to type? which known revolution was achieved via hitting some keys on a computer keyboard? ur post is insightful but its just a drop in the ocean.

ifyan:
Your name de represent true true.
When you tell them the truth, you are seen a fool
But deep within their hearts your name represent.
Love it.
You know. ......

TheOtherview:
We are about to get new leaders on the 29th of May


The struggle for fiscal federalism must intensify under the new administration.
As someone who recognises the larger import of this arrangement, I not only intend to play a role in helping bring it to fruition; I also encourage others to do the same


I am in full support of regionalism.


This pretty much depends on whether Nigerians like you are prepared to embrace the conditions for change.
If you are prepared to the jettison ethnocentric politics, by building new bridges into the future, we can expose new possibilities.
Innit though?

GrammarPolicee:
why not start a revolution? u will be surprised how many people will folllow u.

orubebe my foot

IyaIode:
Who are those that represented you at the confab? The new leaders you clamoured for in your earlier post?

I pity the younger ones in these nation, the elite have figured out a way to make you blind to their crimes while you fight for a fruitless course they will never support.
Biko tell me 5 igbo elite championing your course.

Barcanista please tell me 5 ijaw elite that championed your idea in the last 5yrs.

They know perfectly how to manipulate you guys.

Rawani:
Is it a coincidence that this awareness was suddenly kindled upon Jonathan's loss? If GEJ had won and the SS continued to rule for a total of 10 years, add 8 years SW rule, do you realize the North (3 geo-political zones) would have ruled for only 2 years out of the 20 years of our democracy (1999-2019)? If the focus is on good governance which GMB espouses you worries about the ethnicity of elected officials would not be your primary concern.