₦airaland Forum

makydebbie:
Pls do well not to quote me anymore, everyone that viewed this thread saw it.

don't display your stupidity on my mention. Bye!

Renaissance2017:
Argh!!! So Jesus is an Arab? You can't stop amazing me. You guys like misinforming the entire world.

That's what their imams tell them. Imagine telling you to wash your right nostril because Satan sleeps there at night, so they wash it during their ablution and before prayers. Or "Don't say merry xmas to christians, it is haram and worse than murder..."

Let's not go into their religion fully my dear brother, certain things I heard myself I was forced to laugh at the guy, the Muslim guy who came for evangelism the other time I visited Nigeria. The religion cracks me up

checkolatunji:
Bros you like fight pass querel.

I stand to be corrected, their is nothing like Sunni and shiite for Islam. Leave all those things for Arabs

From my own understanding both Sunni and Shiite na tribe dem be. Na follow follow dem dey do for here (North)

Safe

Holy mother of God! Shiite, Sunni, Tribe?

Hassan080196:
You won't keep amazing me by writing what you have no knowledge of. My question now is , is Maria English word?

You people just keep arguing blindly. Go learn about your bible well before you talk about other people's scripture .

Great. Where did I write maria is an English word? Turns out your not willing to learn. Run along. Have fun

Hassan080196:
You don't have any point. Just writing what the lies your pastors told you in church. Bring proves and not just write what doesn't make sense. Prophet went catholic priest and roman empire to write down Qur'an and still in the same Qur’an that these people you mentioned will go to hell fire. Seriously ironical. You need use your thinking cap and not relent on heresay as the case of your bible. Luke never in his life saw Jesus and have a gospel in your so called holy book. Funny enough that the guy said all what he wrote was based on heresay (Luke 1-3).

Nearly three quaters of whats in the Holy bible was copied into the Quran, For example the 10 commandments , with the exception of few additions, the wife be obedient to your husband thing... etc all was the same in the first books, yes Luke may have not seen Jesus but Jesus inspired the synoptic gospels which is the new testanment laws in which we follow today. Some old testament laws we have renounced - now let me clearify your doubts about certain things. Moses Law is the Law islam Follows - at least one of them. And Moses was mentioned in the bible so you see whats in the bible is basically whats copied into the Quran.

Now We have names like Our Lady of Fatima, Mariam, Maria etc in Catholic Church... sounding the same like the Islamic names, And as the religion has it, Catholic church was the first place of worship or rather would i say the overall headquater , first head of christendom, as we have it in Rome. Basically everything about Christianity, after it moved from Antioch in Syria , Moved to Rome. So you see the poster only doesnt know how to defend himself / herself ...but its different here.

Islam is one of the few newer religions. we have Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism , Judaism, Taoism, magic back then was one of them. islam just came and wants to be boss, inflicting fear into the hearts of everyone, without fear islam would be no where by now. it would have died out long ago. Only some Fools here say Mithraism and Christianity is the same , because of Alexander the great and Rome Whatever, Nairaland Muslims and Atheists make me laugh seriously .

Tired of typing. need to get some work fixed now. just wanted you to see somethings and understand how islam came, dont let Surah 5:51 ruin you. Islam isnt going to be the only religion on earth. It would live, but Conquering the World... I am in Serious doubts. Hitler tried to make the world speak german you speak your mother tounge, so it didnt work, like wise islam ... wont work. Sorry to be this blunt.

maxzzo1:
Dis one na follow follow....

Pity am , its not everything he knows. hes just being ignorant of certain things about his religion.
I am sure he was very surprised when i helped him dissect and understand his religion, to him he may feel insulted (Hes from kano), but really i dont care, as i dont have to pay jizya now This is not saudi arabia and neither is it secular.

Not all muslims know where they belong. Some of them dont even know whats sunni or Shia or even Roghiya Muslims, some dont even know the Morkaz (Dont know if i spelt that correctly) Their own is I am a Muslim, Isa Masjid (Jesus) is coming to fight the Anti christ ( Al Dajaal) , he is the Al Mashih .... now great, i doubt if any of them here even understands any thing i wrote here... yet... they are Muslims

Dont get it twisted. I am a Christian, incase you thinking other wise....

checkolatunji:
No wahala I go collect am in spirit

Enjoy the rest of ur day bro

Safe

Hmmm Spirit no day chop chicken na

E good as i off fighting spirit from you this night, anyways Yoruba Muslims are not like their brothers , up north.

checkolatunji:
Lol... abeg throw me Christmas chicken abeg make I take compliment my white London cos na my street dey do Street Jamz tonight.

I no get worries

Safe

checkolatunji:
Really!!!! You think so?


Uhhmmmm sabinus I hail you bros

Safe

I Know so... Undersabinus thank you, i catch your hail ....

cosade:
Sunnis and Shia: Islam's ancient schism

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16047709

Hassan080196:
Everything you want are in those verses above.

But you ain't satisfied with that. I hope this will convince you.

IF CHRISTIAN MEANS ‘A FOLLOWER OF JESUS’ THEN ‘I AM A TRUE CHRISTIAN’ :

I worship the One True God (NOT TRINITY) who created the universe , who created Jesus , who was worshipped by Jesus.
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

~ Mark (12:29)

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

~ Deuteronomy 6:4

Jesus was a MUSLIM (Meaning : One who seeks the will of God and Submits to will of God) , So am I ; Jesus did miracles by permission of God and I believe that.
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to my will but of him who sent me.

~John (5:30)

I believe in the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as was prophecised by Jesus (pbuh) .
~ John (16:7,12-14) [ Also in John (1:21) , Deuteronomy (18:18) , Isaiah (29:12) , Song of Songs (5:16) etc. )

I pray as Jesus (pbuh) .
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

~Matthew (26:39)

I take ablution before prayer .
~ Exodus (40:30)

I greet people by saying “Peace be on you” like Jesus .
A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”

juman:
I dont have time to spend more on that.

Shafiiimran99:
Tnx

Anytime fam.

AK481:
Cc that nigga called fiznation who claims he is not a Sunni.

It's now clear that you re a Sunni with this explanation.

Thanks buddy.

Anytime. I'm mainly a programmer, but I know these things, religion, psychology, and software. I take religion seriously, even tho I'm not 100%.

He fiizznation doesn't know where he belongs he just accepted the faith and doesn't know it's principles, that's why many of them get infuriated when you bring things like this up.

safe fam.

juman:
You are a liar.

It happened just last year.

you suddenly lost your voice? next time you quote me you'd have yourself to blame. Ode

juman:
You are a liar.

It happened just last year.

juman:
That was caused by a political problem with saudi last year.

Shafiiimran99:
Well they can claim that but does everybody that claims something really believes or doing what he or she has claimed? For xmpl our leader do would come to us in the name of democracy but reverse is the case, can we say democracy is bad system of govt simply because we have bad leaders in Nigeria? Truly, a muslim must believe in jihad.

juman:
You are liar.

Awwwww, look who's calling me a liar.

Kk let's see who is lying here

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/127214/iranians-no-longer-allowed-make-pilgrimage-mecca

Why are they called kaffirs? Alongside Christianity and Jews?

BraniacX:
And who are you as a sunni to decide and enforce what real islam is to any other muslim? the reason why you're complaining about shi'ites unlike the other minority muslim groups is that they are large enough to fight back when you persecute them! That's all! You sunni's embody majority of what is evil about islam! Imagine one uneducated inbred swine would call himself a scholar and wake up one morning and issue a fatwah and his ignorant followers would go ahead and execute the victim so shut up about being justified or righteous because you're not!

I know that part too. But don't start a war. let most of the evil ones bow in shame.

BraniacX:
There's a minority christian population in pakistan that is getting more minor every single day with numerous lynchings, as a christian in pakistan, if you want me dead just accuse me of blasphemy against muhammed and that same day or night, both me and my family will be killed while the police and army stand by and watch and do nothing! Its that bad!

O boy!

See how their life is kwanu. 100% backward.

Shafiiimran99:
Yes, but naturally a believer in Allah and his prophet Muhammad is simply Muslim notin more notin les

Islam means submission. I know. To Allah. I know all those.
But Shia are muslims too, accept them as yours and put grudges aside.

BraniacX:
But its easier to live as a christian in iran and lebanon than in saudi-arabia and pakistan, iran's and lebanon's muslims are predominantly shia and they have problems with christians from time to time but they adopt a live and let live policy, but in a predominantly sunni saudi arabia, christian worship is forbidden and in a predominantly sunni pakistan, there's currently a genocide going on against christians and shias so given a choice between the two sects, I will rather live with a shia muslim

Lemme add, there isn't a church in Saudi Arabia. Unlike Qatar and other places you have mentioned. Pakistan... I don't know much about them. but that nation is an embodiment of problems, having issues with even India as their sisters.

AK481:
Ok,where does all his supporters do their hajj?

If it's pilgrimage you ask, well I have news Flash for you. Shia Muslims don't go to to Mecca for pilgrimage. ask and find out yourself.

checkolatunji:
Kindly tell us where in the Quran that preach Hate and Violent as you claim

checkolatunji:
My friend, we no dey fight na and I no dey try bring up anything.

I just want to chip in something.

With what you said and what I believe, my assertion is that they are people who try to twist the Holy books ( Quran, Bible) just to sooth their own believe so that their followers will be loyal to them ( this is the case of these Sunni and shiite issue) like and like other Christian churches too. Talk about Catholic, Anglican and pentecostal churches whereby they all have different doctrine, in which they go against each other.

Like in my area people always tackle jahova withness followers.

This happens in Islam too.

I hope you understand

Safe

I think say you wan start wahala.

I'm Anglican, we descended directly from the roman catholic church. After king Henry wanted divorce and couldn't get it,and some other doctrines. We decided to write our own doctrines. In present day, Anglican is called orthodox christians. And whence came other denominations, Methodists, Jewish christians, pentecostal, etc. Even Jehovas witness, are somehow not following certain things Christianity follows, and that's one of the reasons Islam says Christianity bible is corrupt, unknown to Islam, after Judaism, Christianity, after that Islam came. Possibly carved out from the roman catholic church, yet we let all this religions live... no fights, no wars.

I have a hunch you'd ask me how Islam came from roman catholic church but don't bother, Christianity doesn't fight. Islam needs to have understanding about few things. My opinion tho.

Shafiiimran99:
ISIS, boko haram etc are not Islamic

Zuzer:
LMAO! You lowlife omo ale jatijati. I can see how sad your life really is. You need big help. Your life is really upside down right now

Silence is the best answer for a dustbin like you. slowpoke.

Shafiiimran99:
U re right but what we re sayin is that any Muslim that does not follow the criteria set by the prophet Muhammad and his companions can not longer be a good Muslim. The Shia case is that they believed Ali should Muslims leader after prophet Muhammad which not true as a result, they separated from the companions hence the name shia was given to them

At least someone agrees with me.

Yes I know that separation part as well. I read that when I wanted to study kurdish / Arabic back then.

I'm not 100% religious, no one is. I know a lot about several religions, atheism, buddha, Hindu and some others including those who worship zoroaster

... you Sunni yea?