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APC touts and their Ogas are like Mike Tyson, they can punch ferociously but can't withstand even the most gentle nudge. Each time I hear them whine about people criticizing this useless govt without proferring solution, I ask, what solution they proferred in the five yrs of GEJ's reign apart from incitement and destructive rabid criticism. Ben Bruce pls continue to pummel d dullards while we enjoy their little, childlike squirms

Edo people are great, hardworking and very intelligent, but like in every human society, they do have few social deviants like the prostitute who authored this book. What's there to write about buhari

How is this news? Suleiman rates Muhammadu high, Ilorin fulani supports Daura fulani and we are expected to be surprised?

Hello, pls can it go for 1.3m. Serious buyer

Each time I see Ngige, what comes to mind is his ludicrous excuse for swearing at Okija shrine just to become a gov.

D change we craved is here

The federal govt paid amnesty to militants last week to ensure maximum cooperation, yet they failed inspite of the orchestrated mayhem they unleashed

dotunson:
Am not a part supporter but i think the APC govt as tried to stop the naira falln any further. CBN made some policies to slow the downward movement of the naira. They try to reduce the demand for dollar. E.g the BDC policy recently made that will reduce the excess Withdrawal in the Federal reserve. another one is the stoppage for depositing dollar into domicile accounts. Tho in the short run people who need dollar to Transact business would feel the burn but in the long run it will fix the naira. Especially if the oil price increases again.

Monetary policy must be complimented by robust fiscal policy to stimulate the economy, as far as I know, this govt after 7mths does not have a coherent fiscal policy that inspires hope and confidence of investors

rottennaija:
That's very true. That's the question I keep asking. What did the think will happen after the election? PDP practically made the naira invaluable.

More so, even if Jonathan had won the election, the naira would still fall and they wouldn't be able to control it. They won't be able to recover any Looted funds like what is happening now. So, it was a lose lose situation if PDP had won the election and things to would have been really hard. Even the minister of finance then told Nigerian to prepare for hard times or didn't they hear it?

Naira has fallen by more than 50% since Buhari and his gang of "do nothing but gallivant" came into power, the question is , what have they done to stem the downward spiral, Nothing. Instead of engaging in useless presumption of what could or could not have happened if Gej was still in power, what should detain u is what has been the fiscal policy of this administration? Something to complement the monetary policy of the CBN

When promises are made, we should seek clarifications before jumping into conclusions

To eject anyone who is in lawful / unlawful possession of a property, you need the leave of court and only court appointed agents can effect the ejection. What this govt and its agents are doing is a recipe for anarchy and those urging them on now because they consider their actions expedient should realise that they are inadvertently legitimizing lawlessness which, fully blossomed, won't be able to distinguish its victims

How many of them were former coup plotters? We need to know if that was part of their syllabus back in military school

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fulanimafia:
This President clearly doesn't mince his words. Without any ambiguity, Buhari has highlighted the insincerity of those confidence-giving senators by basing his acceptance of Saraki solely on his vindication by the courts and not any other trivial basis. Those belly-filled senators are products of the status-quo so their tolerance of corruption and impunity is not surprising at all.

I'm proud to finally have a President that upholds the rule of law.

When are u people going to get it into your skull that this a democracy, the senate and other arms of govt does not exist at his behest, his personal views about the person occupying the position of the senate presidency and other principal officers counts for nothing in so far as such persons enjoys the confidence and loyalties of fellow senators

The more they claim things are changing , the more they remain the same. The circlycal motion without movement

APC and Lies are like Siamese twins, wherever you find one the other must be tagging along. They corrupted the media, used Ayo Salami to corrupt the elections tribunals in the 2011 election tribunals and now it's the DSS & Nigerian Army they want to use to scuttle the electoral wishes of the good people of Rivers state. God will not permit them

He collected billions of Rivers state money but rejected Sallah rams and that's newsworthy? These bunch of clowns ain't ready for governance

Dhugal:
The story getting more K-leg by the day,as some of us warned it would.
Why did the CCB not serve Saraki the required 14-day notice to come explain his asset declaration?.
Why were the other Commissioners kept in the dark about the whole process against Saraki?.Why the rush to the Tribunal with so many things left undone?.

The aim is not to convict but to embarrass and undermine his moral authority to preside as senate president. Saraki may be undeserving of my sympathy but this is not about him as a person but about the health of our nation and her trajectory. All reasonable and well meaning Nigerians must stand as one in rejecting the misuse of state institutions for personal vendetta

hinwazaka:
Who cares what an inconsequential group of hired islamist thugs want. If they know they were actually sired by their fathers, they should go and flex their muscles in the National assembly on Monday. If the OP knows that he too, has his hands, legs and head complete, he should join them and prove he is a true son of his father. If not he should keep quiet and wait for Saraki to show you what his father taught him all those years he was at his side. This government will cry tears upon tears so much so that when in the near future members of the executive hear this words: Obama, Democrat, LP, Hollande, power, politics, GEJ, they will run for their dear lives. As for that OVERBLEACHED LAB RAT KNOWN AS DANLADI USMAN, he should enjoy his commission, for it may not last long. When he starts to receive the other side of the naira note, he should not complain. That's what businessmen call business: profit and loss.

The funny thing is the foolish, corrupt and pliable Danladi Usman is on administrative bail from EFCC for two separate corruption charges. When Buhari said he is looking for "fearless" judges I am sure some of these quota system judges assumed "fearless" is synonymous with doing the biddings, however diabolical, of the executive and affirming the conviction of accused through sensational trial by the hypocritical and partisan media.

Dhugal:
Actually,you buttress his argument.
S.174(2) CFRN says "..or through officers of his department",while S.24(2) of the CCB Act lays down the process through which said officers can act for the AGF in asset declaration cases.It is not in conflict with the constitution.The constitutional provision is broad and general,while the Act's provision lays down the specific manner the constitutional provision should be applied in code of conduct cases.You really should read well,comprehend and assimilate before offering up interpretations that may mislead.
Saraki may walk free on this technicality and others,such as the CCB flouting it's own procedure of inviting him to come explain discrepancies in his asset declaration thereby infringing on his right of equal treatment and fair hearing,and that will be a blow on the fight against corruption.What is worth doing is worth doing well.

Thank u and Godbless you my brother, you've said it all

MizMyColi:
Thank you.
Personally I like the turn and twist this is taking.
Ebele Jonathan was once quoted as saying that if you use 40% of your powers, you will be seen as a menace.
I know I did not post rubbish and I knew the impeachment part would get to core Buharists who have thrown away their ability to apply discernment on Buhari based topics.
In their imagination, every naysayer is a threat that must be put down and out.

GEJ's goat and yam theory might be right afterall.
Nigeria is a nation that has her roots entrenched deeply in corruption, starting from the top echelons of society, to the janitor in the smallest establishment.

When you are saddled with a responsibility to clean up such huge mess, you apply wisdom and tact....and diplomacy. Else they will fight you tooth and nail and chances are that you won't win...especially when you think that the people who are sold in on your vision are actually harbingers of doom to your administration.

No corruption is worse than using state institution to settle personal and political score. From using the police to harass Saraki, Ekweremadu and the clerk of the house for forgery, the summoning of Saraki's wife by EFCC for offence allegedly committed 5yrs ago even when proven cases of corruption like Halliburton/siemens scandal is swept under the carpet ncos they claimed their probe is Limited to the last 4yrs of GEJ's Govt and this ill advised misuse of the CBB, we are beginning to witness a relapse to the inglorious 80s of tyrannical abuse of state authority

TonyeBarcanista:
Oga, let's stop arguing emotionally. The section 174(1) was NOT about only regular court.... Lemme quot it

"(1) The Attorney-General of the Federation shall have power
(a) to institute and undertake criminal proceedings against any person before any court of law in Nigeria, other than a court- martial, in respect of any offence created by or under any Act of the National Assembly";

Subsection 2 of 174 further stated that...
(2) The powers conferred upon the Attorney- General of the Federation under subsection (1) of this section may be exercised by him in person or through officers of his department.

That has nullified your argument.

Sincerely I don't know what you mean by being emotional, I have no dog in the fight between the dubious change chanters, I am just a proponent for the strict adherence to the rule of law. The constitution talks about CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS in a regular court, the charge before the code of conduct tribunal is not a criminal proceeding, the tribunal has no power to commit anyone into prison or impose a fine upon guilty verdict, the accuse can personally defend himself or be represented by an attorney at the tribunal. If a prima facie case of criminal liability is established at the tribunal, the AG is at liberty to institute an action at the high court. Try and read the Act first before forming an opinion

MizMyColi:
So far so good, nothing the OP says has been proven a lie.
The issue of contention here is the Buhari Impeachment...which discerning minds already appropriated to continued actions in these lines.

This is a forum and like I said, learning never stops...

If I post something which seems correct to me and in the long run, a superior argument strikes mine out, everyone is better for it.
You claim you are my friend, when you saw the rubbish that I posted, did you so much as quote me to say, "No, Miz, it is like this and like this....Did you do anything to help me get better, knowledge wise?"
No.
You saw someone condemning me and you hopped right in to register yours.


Emotionally blackmailing me and perhaps indirectly insinuating what I know you are insinuating is so not cool. Not cool

Morning, you are very correct, the National Assembly has the constitutional latitude to determine what constitute an impeachable offense, even the way the president laughs in public may be considered an offense worthy of impeachment, so the Daura bigot has to thread carefully

TonyeBarcanista:
Which constitution/Act are you interpreting from? If it's an Act, then the Constitution overrides ANY Act that is in conflict! If it is from the Constitution then I will like to see the relevant section. This is a Constitutional matter not an emotional one

Check section 24 (2) of the code of conduct bureau and tribunal Act. Like I stated earlier, section 174 of the constitution deals with the powers of the attorney general to institute criminal cases in regular courts and in the absence of an AG the constitution allows other officers in the ministry of justice to exercise such powers. In the case of non compliance with CCB ACT on asset declaration and related breaches, the procedure is specific and unambiguous, only an AG or someone he specifically authorise at federal and state level can bring a charge on behalf of the fed govt against an accuse. This provision is not in conflict with section 174 of the constitution and therefore not void. In my considered opinion, this case would go on appeal and the appellate court is bound to side with Saraki and his counsel

TonyeBarcanista:
Thank you for the polite disagreement. You may read this https://www.nairaland.com/2609612/ccbs-ongoing-prosecution-saraki-constitutional#38152461. I believe the constitutional provisions will clear your doubt

In the rule of interpretation, when there is a specific provision it overrides any general provision in the constitution. Section 174 deals with the powers and responsibilities of an attorney general which can be exercised by any other senior officer in the ministry of justice so empowered in the absence of a substantive AG. The provision of the CCB envisage a substantive AG and conferred on him specific responsibilities which only he can exercise or expressly delegate. The reason most high profile accuse escape justice is because those saddled with the responsibility to investigate and prosecute wittingly or unwittingly leave legal lacunas or breach the legal procedure which eventually leads to unending litigation or technical acquittal

TonyeBarcanista:
@Mycoli: Actually, the issues raised by the poster is baseless.

1. Prosecution can only be authorised from the Office of the Attorney General of the Federation/Justice Ministry. Keyword here is office.

2. The Office/Ministry is not the same as occupant/Minister. Just as the Presidency does not mean the occupant. 1(above) actually mean the institution. Any authorised person (Solicitor-General or Director of Public Prosecution) have the power to okay criminal proceeding in the absence of AGF.

3. The law does not recognise vacuum. Hence, the Ministry of Justice were able to halt Sylva's case even when there was no Minister of Justice.

4. The CCB has acted lawfully

5. It is NOT an impeachable offence. Beside to impeach a President you need 1/3 members of Senate and Reps to send impeachment notice, you need the CJN to set up 7-man committee to investigate the 'offences' and you need ANOTHER 2/3 of Senate and Reps to pass a Yes (assuming the panel indict the President). It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE


People should refrain from being emotional over this issuê

First time I would disagree with u on this forum, your opinions are almost all of the time spot on, but on this you got it wrong. Let me say upfront that I consider Saraki a despicable, treacherous, opportunistic scoundrel, a rapacious thief deserving all the tribulations being meted to him by his equally power hungry, tyrannical soul mates. That said, I believe we are a country governed by law and under no circumstance should the tenets, letters and the core principles of law be deviated from just because it's expedient to do so. If we encourage mob action against a deserving thief someday an innocent relative may be wrongly lynched to death just because someone maliciously called him Ole in the market place.

To what you opined, my dissent

1) the law is very specific on who can prosecute or authorize prosecution by way of delegating his authority for false declaration of assets, The attorney general of the federation. This is unlike any other criminal prosecution where the power to prosecute can be implied even when there is no substantive AG

2) like I said earlier, the law is not referring to the office but the person of the Attorney general, there is no ambiguity. No other person can act on his behalf unless there is an express authorisation from the AGF. In this case, Buhari shot himself in the foot by his inexplicable delay in appointing his ministers

3) The law recognize a vacuum if there is one even though nature abhors it

4) In its rush to please the puppeteer, CCB not only acted unlawfully but also in total disregard of its own procedures. An accuse is to be afforded an opportunity by the commission to explain any discrepancy discovered after verification of his declared assets, the commission only proceeds to prosecute if the Explanation is considered unsatisfactory. In this case nothing of such happened.

5) this constitutional infraction may not be weighty enough to warrant the impeachment of the president, moreso when there is nothing to show he is directly involved in this shenanigan but I assure you that if he continues to behave like we are still in a military era where his whims must be obeyed and his wishes must be law , then sooner or later even those cheering him on now would start seeing him as a menace that must be thwarted, he frittered away his goodwill in 84, same can still happen

Inconsistent clowns, harass Dasuki, a rtd military colonel and immediate past NSA for gun possession but willing to grant amnesty to the deadliest terrorist group In the history of Nigeria.

One unmistakable truth from the interview, he remains the same. The same myopic, vindictive, incompetent, tyrannical tribal bigot who has not changed but constrained so far by the democratic ethos

Buhari is a magician, he was able to increase his number of cows from 150 to 270, turn N1m to N30m and the number of his houses from 3 to 5 all in the space of 3months. PDP should just relax and watch Baba turn Nigeria into eldorado without fiscal policy in the shortest possible time

Although brown envelope has always been part of our journalistic tradition since the 80s, APC with their brand of politics elevated it to a national crisis in the last five years, the advent of social media and online journalism has also exacerbated the phenomenon. A situation where you can be anonymous and unreachable has emboldened many faceless online journalist who just dump any junk they fancy through their medium for the unsuspecting and highly impressionable consumers who gobble it down without sifting the lies

I opened the thread thinking it was written by the original crumb chaser, the glory hunter of Bring back our girl fame, so disappointed it's a junk by an inconsequential, inferior Obiageli.

This clown should do the needful, pay the long suffering workers and stop all these macabre dance. When we asked them to show us Buhari's certificate they alleged blackmail, we also consider this silly demand a blackmail to deny the workers of their legitimate right