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K9blunt:
Even me shock with their assumptions.

Assumptions , Even if you are brain-dead, are you blind too?.
So even with KingEbukasBlog proof, you still believe its his assumption?

Its over mehn.

lezz:
Best response ever!!!

Thanks.

cloudgoddess:
Who cares?

Those leaders did not kill in the NAME of atheism. As you said, they had communist ideals, and a whole host of other problems with their worldview. Their atheism was not the SOURCE of their wrongdoing, but a coincidental trait of those leaders.

You ignorance is legendary.
How convenient for you to seperate atheism from a cleary atheist state. I could give you few shots on atheistic-communism and history if you wont read like you ask me to.

I'm tempted to agree that atheism was just a coincidental trait of those leaders.
People can see how you are calling 52 leaders who had a terrible ideology which supported their bloodthirst coincidental.

52 coincidences in 90 years? You should bury your head in shame.

cloudgoddess:
Who cares?
The problem with religion is that it, in itself, CREATES a motivation for killing & wrongdoing, according to the dogmatic texts. People who kill in the name of religion do so because their religion directs them to do so. And THAT is why religious wars are so problematic.

Why not rationalize the murders of those atheists instead of looking for a cheap escape route.

Yeah, Only In your head? Jesus says "Kill your neighbour as you would kill yourself". You really wish religion was evil.

cloudgoddess:
Who cares?
There are no atheist texts directing people to kill non-atheists. There is no atheist dogma leading any atheist person to commit any crime in the name of disbelief in god. There are only communists and dictators who HAPPEN to be atheist, and kill & plunder for selfish reasons unrelated to mere disbelief in dieties.

There is no need for atheist texts gal. All anyone needs are your persistent sermons and epistles of;
-How we came here on our own through blind processes and coincidences.
-How we have no cause, purpose or reason.
-How we will just live life and die
-How human life is no relevant than a log of wood cos both are results of coincidences
-How morality is subjective.
-How there is no Creator and how we can make our individual standards.
And in a matter of weeks, this terrible ideology might turn into a wild beast.

And they did not happen to be atheists, atheism was their driving force in the extermination of religious people. How can you even want to deny this?

There have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts causing an average of about 10,000,000 murders each.

Interesting coincidence.

cloudgoddess:
Who cares?
The disbelief in a diety is not, in and of itself, a driving force for crime. However, the BELIEF in a diety that promotes the harm of nonbelievers IS clearly a driving force for crime in itself. This post is pointless and does not do anything to justify or minimize the harms of religion.

The belief in a deity that gives a principal instruction that you love your neighbour as yourself can only trigger one thing. LOVE.

The belief that humans are mere materials or results of blind processes as teempakguy admitted here:

Teempakguy:
I won't argue this.
In truth, If you don't believe that human lives are special, you might think that it wouldn't be such a bad thing to end anyone.

can definately trigger the mass-murder or extermination of religious people.

This post is pointless because you want it to be, its pointless cos you wish it was.
But the point is that all religions put together havent committed up to 2% of mass murders in comparison with atheisms over 60%.
No one is justifying anything, but to try to downplay the hundreds of millions of lives lost to atheism and discard it as mere coincidence is not only dishonest but outrageous.

Teempakguy:
a human life is special because it has the capacity to give itself purpose. so, your logic goes out the door.

and while you're on that, do you mind telling me the purpose of the millions of babies your God kills per year?

Have you conducted any test to infer that the animals that you eat everyday do not have the capacity to give themselves purposes. Even a lifeless log of wood has its purpose. So my logic stares at you in the face.

When you take what does not belong to you, its a crime. God creates and takes what he creates, He is not the man you've created in your brains. You didnt ask to be created, you dont even own your life. Try harder.

And is this your best way to rationalize the evil commited in the name of atheism?
Pathetic!.

Teempakguy:
I won't argue this.

In truth, If you don't believe that human lives are special, you might think that it wouldn't be such a bad thing to end anyone.

If human life is a product of mere chance, coincidence or blind processes, then how is it special?
How is human life different from a log of wood lying down the street since they are both results of lucky processes?
Do you revere animal life like human life since they are both products of mere chance and time.
Atheism-materialism-naturalism are intertwined. "We" are all materials from a great coincidence, no reason, no purpose.
Those muderers knew this perfectly.

And its good you've learnt something from religion and society.

KingEbukaNaija:
Dodge ? I dont dodge , I circumvent .

Let me show you something your little mind has not realised .

Scientifically , the cause of the universe is unknown right ? Unknown means different possibilities right ? A creator causes something to exist right? And I say God is the creator.

The proposition is a logical one because I have picked one out of the "numerous possibilities" of the unknown - this is a very logical stance . But atheism denies the God-possibility of the unknown - in other words it is close-mindedness . Now , remember the "God-possibility" presents the creator as conscious and eternal hinting at intelligence and design .

Well , the atheist still has not arrived any possibility-concept of the precursor of the universe but has denied the God-possibility - do you see how irrational that sounds . The atheist claims that the God-possibility is not possible - how is that rational ?

If an atheist is logical he would acknowledge the God-possibility and then ask the proposer to defend his 'suggestion'

Excellent reply Bro!!!

KingEbukaNaija:
Winner01 , this young man is truly confused . He gets to that very point where the Logic of God and Everything is palpable but somehow it eludes him and he returns to the state of confusion

Somehow he knows that this origin is not blind and mindless but does not want to admit that the Creator of the world is the Supreme God.

The height of confusion

asalimpo:
Or...
d) God doesnt interfere with human will (except explicitly invited)
e) The heart of Man is desperately wicked (as the bible says) and man doesnt need
education but a new heart (spirit).
f) There's a devil, who works through men.

The wont reason this way.
"We are open-minded" they say.

KingEbukaNaija:
The question still remains :

Can you prove the universe needs no creator ?

And since then Johnydon22 , Frank317 , Weah96 ... have not provided any cogent rebuttals worth paying attention to .

I did this same thing on Twitter with atheists and they admitted there is no proof yet . Winner01 , actually white atheists reason differently and they are honest . Though some thought it was the BOP game I was playing . They even argued against themselves on theories too . But the deluded Nigerian ones dont understand that there is a disparity between Prove God does not exist and prove that the universe needs no creator .

Dear beloved Christian Friends DAY 4 is close by and they are still floundering between two different arguments - finding it difficult to extricate themselves from their shallow mindedness .

Any reasonable person would see what the question is. These guys are just willingly playing around. No one is talking about God (at least not now). Its just a logical question as to why every other substance requires a creator except man and the universe.
Most white atheists ive spoken to are honest, especially the ones born into atheism. Those ones argue with reason.
Weah96 has gotten the point, but he's far too gone to concede to the obvious fact that the universe was created. Plus he wouldnt like to mess his brothers up.

Later they accuse Nigerians of close-mindedness.

KingEbukaNaija:
Who has read Stephen Hawking's : God was not needed to create the Universe

Does it mean proving God does not exist ?

Winner01 , the answer to whatever "proof" is in that video I posted . There is no proof the universe needs no creator . They are just blabbing and showing how they are bereft of reasoning

Im wondering how unintelligent these guys are. The only thing they know is "there is no God", infinite regress, Jesus never existed and other dishonest defences.

You can imagine how asking a person to prove why creation needs no Creator and the person just insists that there is no God.

Let me post the question here again;
Can you prove the universe needs no creator ?

A simple honest question.

KingEbukaNaija:
I know of that practice but like you said its a buttered form of atheism . But honestly , I dont even think its actually practiced because they are officially an atheist state - they do not condone the freedom of religion and the megalomaniacal leader thinks he is some god who has to be worshiped by his people

I think atheism and islam are closely related in terms of religious suppression and intolerance. Thank God for Christ.

I saw this hilarious pic somewhere. lol

Atheism has always had a tendency towards totalitarianism rather than freedom. What is so strange and odd that in spite of their outward rejection of religion and all its superstitions, they feel compelled to set up cults of personality and worship of the State and its leaders that is so totalitarian that the leaders are not satisfied with mere outward obedience; rather they insist on total mind control and control of thoughts, ideas and beliefs. They institute Gulags and "re-education" centers to indoctrinate anyone who even would dare question any action or declaration of the "Dear Leader." Even the Spanish Inquisition cannot compare to the ruthlessness and methodical efficiency of these programs conducted on so massive a scale. While proclaiming freedom to the masses, they institute the most methodical efforts to completely eliminate freedom from the people, and they do so all "on behalf" of the proletariat. A completely ordered and totally unfree totalitarian State is routinely set up in place of religion...



"Sadly, the specter of Atheistic Communism still haunts the world. In Russia, one-third of the people believe that Stalin "did more good than bad for the country," according to a recent poll. In China, thousands of dissidents are imprisoned in the slave labor camps known as the laogai. In North Korea, masses starve as the leadership threatens to unleash nuclear war. In Cuba, dissidents are routinely imprisoned for peacefully petitioning for democratic reform."

"Whatever the motives for atheist bloodthirstiness, the indisputable fact is that all the religions of the world put together have in 2,000 years not managed to kill as many people as have been killed in the name of atheism in the past few decades.

It's time to abandon the mindlessly repeated mantra that religious belief has been the greatest source of human conflict and violence. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history.”

onetrack:
I did not become an atheist by leaving the church, I became an atheist by lacking a belief in any god, whether it be Yahweh or Allah or Sango.

And while I don't believe in the concept of sin, clearly by your standards I am a sinner. Which is okay with me.

No one is condemning or convicting you of sin.
In your own words you said "I went to church for 16 years, but sitting in a church doesn't make me Christian" implying that you never really understood what you were doing at the time.
It is okay to say you were not a christian and it is equally okay to try to know what Christianity is all about.

UyiIredia:
Just to add: Hitler, though Christian was not being Christian when undertaking the Holicaust. What inspired Hitler and other Germans was a a belief in evolution (which atheists are guilty of). There are many articles in creationist and secular sources that discuss how Hitler was influenced by a 'survival of the fittest' mentality.

One may start I from here

https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/racism/darwinism-and-the-nazi-race-holocaust/

@ bolded, it would be better to say "Hitler, though born into christianity" Cos there are no indications that he reverted back to christianity.
People like cloudgoddess and others were also born into christianity.

KingEbukaNaija:
Lmao .. Day 3 .. Johnydon22 has not proven the universe needs no creator .

That is not even the BOP game . Just simply show me . See why the universe needs no creator . This is the cause , here are exactly how events took place with evidence - images and videos included . Remember faith is illogical right ?

Not spamming threads with ludicrous vacuous garbage-deserving imaginations of mentally indolent people who claim impossibilities made possible the universe .

Are we joking here

Notice that he did not major on a "relationship with the Creator" from the onset. He was trying to hold on to the "infinite regress" claim. But now he's found a more solid base.

Really he does not deserve anyone's time until he's able to refute ur initial post of a universe not needing a Creator.

KingEbukaNaija:
Lmao ... you didnt see that coming right ? I know . And to hide the shame and disappointment you launch vituperative attack on Christians and beliefs . Johnydon22 ... the false prophet against ad hominem and bigotry

Winner01 ... do you still remember when Johnydon22 was being sanctimonious

So its a design that indeed has an end . With the purpose of bringing a new earth and heavens .

Try again bro

I am really enjoying this !!!!

Johnydon22 is a confused person. He knows the truth but is just hanging on. His repitition of points is repulsive.

Ol boy, 9 pages.

KingEbukaNaija:
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I think its kilmungsuism (not sure of the spelling though) - the god-like worship of oneself and the state.
Just another buttered form of atheism.

Weah96:
[size=16pt]I agree that i'm close-minded[/size].

Easy

Weah96:
Did you watch the video? She wasn't an atheist.

Oh yeah, Same way your brothers will deny you if you turn to christianity today.

.

Weah96:
She was never an atheist, just a Christian who doubted when she didn't witness any magic tricks.

Yeah, even if thousands (including atheists such as this) testify to the reality of the supernatural. It wouldnt matter because to you they are all will all be liars looking for fame right?
You seem to have made up your mind and so there isnt much to say.


I remember you posted this few days ago:

Weah96:
Thomas is a literary example of someone like me. Like the incredulous Thomas, I have yet to experience it. I don't have to prove why this thing DOESN'T talk to you guys either just like Thomas didn't have to prove that the dead man was NOT revisiting his mates.

I must have the Thomas experience. People in the bible were witnesses to magic tricks, that's why they believed.

If there is no magic, I won't believe you.

as if you were really open-minded.


And i remember replying you:

winner01:
Thomas was not the only one who doubted the resurrection of Jesus but was the probably the only one recorded in the Bible to have had a physical contact with the resurrected, as proof of Jesus' resurrection.

Now how about those like Thomas back in the days, who requested to touch the hands of Jesus. Some didn't even see Jesus till he ascended back into heaven. I'm sure some people in neighboring cities also doubted the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus.

My point is: We all have our different paths. You may not be able to physically touch the pierced hands of Jesus like Thomas did for the same reason you may not be as rich as Aliko dangote. You cant possibly demand for the same exact experience that someone had in the past and then conclude that if you do not have this experience, then a Creator does not exist.


Several people have had evidences ranging from physical encounters, dreams, creation, the human mind and spirit, the moral law, beauty, religion, experience, history, the church, the bible, Jesus e.t.c. That you are yet to experience it does not mean it is false or that those who have experienced it are liars.

Anything or even You could be the magic that you seek, but if you refuse to see yourself as magic. Then i pray you find what you seek.

Till then, dont go around preaching to people that "magic" does not exist or that those who have witnessed magic are liars or !diots.

This is one out of numerous people who have witnessesed magic.
You dont have to believe them, no one will force you either.
And we definately aren't interested in your opinion too.

‘If there’s a God, You have to show me that You are real, and it has to be between You and me.  I can’t believe what somebody else says.  You have to show me that You can do something about this pain.  If You can’t, I’m dying.’"

These were the exact words of atheist Shelly Hundley in her sincere quest for truth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b58NG-py28

God bless you as you watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEsCs97-hOQ


God bless you as you watch.

onetrack:
None of what you wrote is going to make me believe that some god exists.

Given all of these terrible crimes, either:

a) God is evil for tolerating it
b) God does not exist
c) God is not all-powerful and therefore does not deserve worship

Someone seems agitated . I admire your determination that there be no God. But No one is here to prove anything to you friend

One of the most well known cases of mass murder during the French Revolution (inspired by the works of Diderot, Voltaire, Sade, and Rousseau, and managed to commit similar persecutions and exterminations of religious people and promote secularism and militant atheism) was the genocide at Vendée, which has yet to be officially recognized as genocide. Some estimates indicated that Robespierre and the Jacobins planned to massacre well over 15,000,000 Frenchmen, and that he also intended to commit genocide against the Alsace region of France due to their German-speaking populace. Besides the guillotine, the French Revolution also resulted in various other deaths, including trampling children with horses, burning people in ovens, "Republican Marriages" (which involved stripping people naked, tying them together to a log in a suggestive fashion, and then putting them into the water to drown. In the event that there wasn't enough people of both sexes, they also resorted to "tying the knot" in a homosexual manner), cutting recently-raped girls in half after tying them to a tree, crushing pregnant women under wine pressers, cutting up pregnant women and using bayonets to stab the fetus inside before leaving her to die, "catching" infants thrown from a balcony with their bayonets, and using shotguns to ensure people bled out to death.

The aforementioned actions during the French Revolution, especially the Reign of Terror in 1793, would also inspire Karl Marx with the Communist manifesto, specifically telling Frederick Engels in correspondences to each other: “There is only one way of shortening, simplifying, and concentrating the bloodthirsty death-throes of the old society and the bloody birth pangs of the new—revolutionary terror. . . . [...] Once we are at the helm, we shall be obliged to reenact the year 1793. [...] We are pitiless and we ask no pity from you. When our time comes, we shall not conceal terrorism with hypocritical phrases. . . The vengeance of the people will break forth with such ferocity that not even the year 1793 enables us to envisage it...”

Koukl summarized by stating: "It is true that it's possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We're talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God".


Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist regime he and fellow citizens suffered under.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn offered the following explanation:
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.'

Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.'


Atheist Communist leaders were motivated by a strong desire to impose an ideological "package" over the whole world. The package included the eradication of Religion, defined by arch-atheist, Karl Marx, as “The opium of the people.” According to Marx, religion helped keep the masses passive before the abuse of the wealthy and powerful, and the only way to free them from the “stupor," God and religion had to be eradicated. Lenin embraced Marx's views and so did Stalin up to the Second World war. The enforcement of Atheism was a “critical” requirement for Communism’s success, and thus it had to be implemented at all costs. This meant oppressive measures, such as brainwashing in state schools, the closing of houses of worship and arresting countless religious leaders.


Karl Marx’s extremist followers were not in any way impeded in their blood-thirsty global quest by fear of a Higher Power. Atheism took very efficient care of this “limiting factor.” Since the end justified the means, as Machiavelli had instructed, they could do whatever was necessary to bring about a workers’ paradise. Because the opposition in some cases proved to be powerful and resilient, drastic means were used. Large numbers were killed for refusing to abandon their religious beliefs. A great many were sent to concentration camps.


Communist-atheist leaders, in their own eyes, became supreme, all-knowing, all-wise and all powerful "gods." They had total control over people’s lives and over who lived and who died. Being "gods," they asserted their evil schemes over the masses with brutality and mercilessness.

In response to Dawkins foolish answer that: "Stalin killed people because he had mustaches?", People like Stalin were interested in propagating an ideology, not a look. Nobody was persecuted in the Soviet Union for not having a mustache like Stalin, or for not wearing a uniform similar to his, or for not liking the same food, music or sports. Large numbers were persecuted and killed for practicing religion, and for being interferences to atheist-communist expansion.


Atheism, therefore, was a major factor in the murder of countless millions, during the past century. Unfortunately, militant atheism, is still driven by some of the same extremist views reminiscent of atheist-communist regimes of old. They, like their predecessors, do not hesitate to admit that they hate God, religion and that they would like to see both disappear forever.

Many atheists claim that religion is evil and, as such, cannot be from God. It is often argued by humanists and atheists that religion has been responsible for most of the suffering caused by war in human history. It is often argued specifically that religious violence proves God does not exist. It is true that there are many examples of evil committed in the name of Christianity. In the past, those who disagreed with "official" church doctrine, such as Galileo were persecuted or killed. Many other Christians were brought before the Inquisition because they were teaching from the Bible instead of from "officially sanctioned" Roman Catholic Church materials. In addition, the Crusades resulted in "holy" wars between "Christians," Jews, and Moslems. In more modern times, wars have been fought between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East e.t.c.

Atheists are quick to point out that throughout history large numbers of people were killed in the name of Religion; but they fail to mention the countless millions who were killed by militant atheist-Communists leaders who worshipped themselves and were driven by a hatred for God and Religion.


Gregory Koukl wrote that "the assertion is that religion has caused most of the killing and bloodshed in the world. There are people who make accusations and assertions that are empirically false. This is one of them." Koukl details the number of people killed in various events involving theism and compares them to the much higher tens of millions of people killed under atheistic communist regimes, in which militant atheism served as the official doctrine of the state.

It is estimated that in the past 100 years, governments under the banner of atheistic communism have caused the death of somewhere between 158,368,610 to 259,432,000 human lives. Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that atheistic communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.

Theodore Beale notes concerning atheism and mass murder:
[b]Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 158 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.

The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.

Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation![/b]

Lets quickly look at some Pre-20th century and also 20th century Decmocide facts.
NOTE: This table brings together all religious affiliated crimes and defines them as Religious".

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3861249_img20160608072600edit_png0d6c36e885a2749ff7ee439996b28aaf



What percentage of these killings were due to religious democide? It is less than 3% of the totals. Well, lets go further to the 20th century.



www.nairaland.com/attachments/3861250_img20160608072631edit_png07eaf03089b0063182fcd3fd67c78c32

Ref: STATISTICS OF DEMOCIDE.



Vox Day lists 22 atheistic regimes that committed 153,368,610 murders in the 20th century alone:

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A name worthy of mention is Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 69-78,000,000 people murdered

Still, the total religious killings is less than 2%. In fact, the top two killers were specifically atheistic states (which had never existed before in human history).


Atheists such as Richard Dawkins have been interviewed on national stations. During an interview, he was asked to justify the evils perpetrated on tens of millions by just one atheist leader, Stalin. The atheist’s response was that the connection between Stalin’s atheism and his great crimes is unfounded. Stalin, he said, had mustaches; could you not use the same logic, he added, and conclude that he killed people because he had mustaches?

The atheist’s response is foolish to such a magnitude that it is not really deserving deserving of an answer.

It is however important to investigate the causal links between mass murder and atheism. Atheism, lack belief in God, have the following characteristics that can lend itself to mass murder and can explain why the greatest mass murderers were atheists.

-Lack of recognition of an ultimate judge of moral actions and a judge who sets injustice aright in a last judgement, and thus do not recognize the immorality of murder.
-Lack of seeing the importance of human beings as images of God and so easily discarding them as merely material things, products of mere chance.
-Lack of acknowledging an external standard of moral perfection, thus ending up with self-created standards which can include killing for political survival.
-Absence of guidance by divine revelation of the moral law, such as "Thou shalt not kill".
-Following an ethic of atheistic evolutionism that is based on the survival and victory of the fittest, which is ultimately a bloodthirsty ethic—an ethic that is eager to kill and to maim. This ethic is about conquering others rather than self-conquest.
-The intolerance of many atheists.


Theodore Beale therefore noted about atheism and mass murder:
“...it does, however, cast serious doubt on the common atheist assertion that a godless society will be a peaceful one. The significant question has never been if atheism causes political leaders to kill in large quantities, it is why political leaders who happen to be atheist have been inordinately inclined to kill in large quantities.


Theist author, Dinesh D'Souza, eloquently expresses similar concerns in the following quote:
The crimes of atheism have generally been perpetrated through a hubristic ideology that sees man, not God, as the creator of values. Using the latest techniques of science and technology, man seeks to displace God and create a secular utopia here on earth. Of course if some people - the Jews, the landowners, the unfit, or the handicapped - have to be eliminated in order to achieve this utopia, this is a price the atheist tyrants and their apologists have shown themselves quite willing to pay. Thus they confirm the truth of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's dictum, "If God is not, then everything is permitted.



Concerning the less than 1% crimes committed in the name of Christianity. Jesus Christ particularly spoke about LAWLESSNESS in Matthew 7:22-23 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'"

In conclusion, it is [size=17pt]important to Note[/size] that. The above analysis regards Adolf Hitler as a christian and classifies his crimes as religious even though he proclaimed his atheistic worldview later in his life. Just like some other atheists, he was born a catholic and therefore has some christian quotes to his name. But I would rather you observe some of his quotes carefully:

[b]In June 1941, Hitler ordered an invasion of the Soviet Union. And on 12th July, 1941, he gave the following quote

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
"Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

On 10th October, 1941, he said:

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." (p 43)

on 14th October, 1941, he said

"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
"Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
"...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
"Christianity is the liar....
"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." (p 49-52) Hitlers' Table Talks.


On October 19th, 1941
"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges, the pox and christianity"- Table talks"

December 13th of the same year, he said "When all is said and done, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunized against the disease."[/b]

Hitler had a terrible mentality and ideology later on in his life, and this led to the murder of about 12,000,000 people.


This piece is just for your information and not a confrontation to any. The World History has been filled with so much bloodshed, and today is not the day to carry on that tradition.

God bless you.


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More than 560 people, including women and children, have been rescued from slavery in India in International Justice Mission's (IJM) largest ever rescue operation.

Police, government officials and IJM staff released hundreds of families from forced labour at a brick kiln on the outskirts of Tiruvallur, Chennai, on Wednesday.

They instigated the operation following a call from a labourer who had managed to escape. According to a statement from IJM, he shared "stories of shocking abuse". When officers arrived, they found hundreds of people in forced labour. Families received just 400 rupees (less than £5) per week in return for working long days, from 3am every morning, and living in tents, or makeshift rooms with tin roofs.


IJM said nearly 200 children were living in the facility, almost half of whom were under five. Once they reached 12 year old, the majority of them worked alongside their parents. Pregnant women weren't given any respite, and one woman said she was forced to give birth in the kiln as she wasn't allowed to go to hospital.

"When officials explained that rescue had arrived, many couldn't believe it was real," IJM said of Wednesday's operation.


"One government officer asked the crowd 'Who wants to go free?' but he was met with a stunned silence. Slowly, one man raised his hand, then another. Soon dozens of tired hands shot into the air, ready to finally exit into safety."

There are thousands of brick kilns in India, which often employ families working as bonded labourers in order to pay off debts at huge rates of interest, effectively a form of economic enslavement.

One couple rescued on Wednesday told the Times of India that they had been brought to work at the kiln by a man who promised to loan them 17,000 rupees in return for a year's work. Struggling to provide for their two-year-old daughter after a failed harvest, the couple agreed, along with around 50 other people from their village. But upon arriving in Tiruvallur, they discovered they would not be allowed to leave the facility, and though their own daughter remained in their home town, they said the owner would physically abuse the children of other families.


"We just want to see our daughter again," they told the Times following their rescue.

IJM rescued more than 500 people from the same factory in 2011, and the owner and five others have now been arrested, facing charges under India's anti-trafficking laws and Bonded Labour Act.

"The operation highlights a critical need in the fight against slavery: If criminals remain free, the violence will continue," IJM said. "But if laws are enforced and traffickers go to jail, we can end slavery for good."

IJM is the world's largest international anti-slavery organisation, working to combat modern day slavery, human trafficking, and other forms of violence against the poor in the developing world.


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Seun:
Prayer is great! If you want to feel as if you've helped someone without actually spending your time or money on the person, you can just pray!

Sincerely, What do you think he should have done for the poor man especially since he had no money?

KingEbukasBlog:
Ok ... so where is your evidence that the universe needs no creator ?

winner01 ... this is like 6th page and this young man still haven't provided proof the universe needs no creator . I'm relishing the ludicrousness of your responses , johnydon22

I see how hes been all over the place without any reasonable answer. Ive not been chanced to refute his unintelligent submissions even if they are worth refuting.
I should have some time to myself this evening.
How are things bro.

TopeEmma15:
Out of all religions in the world atheist seems to pick more interest in Christianity most

Why would anyone concern himself with a lie?.

scarred9jan:
You know Toffler is an atheist, right?

If i cant use a neutral quote by an atheist, you should think about many of the stuffs you use daily.