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amtaken:
Told you it is not personal.
When I was growing up, I knew many men who swore they would never have anything with any married woman but now I have noticed that many boys/men of nowadays don't fear God. Some of them even come online to narrate their escapades and some people cheer them.

People should shun evil.

You said married women are the cause, well the ones I have seen, the ones I am talking about, they are not the cause.

I know of a lady here who has children's boutique. One spoilt brat of a man has vowed that he must befriend her. He spends a lot of money regularly shopping from her shop even though the wife and kids live abroad. He tries everything to impress her and sends flowers and notes to her daily. The lady told him to stop wasting his time that she's a covenant child yet he is adamant.

We told her to ban him from her shop. Now he sends money regularly to her account because he once paid her by wiring money into her account.

You see that kind of temptation?

Men of this generation need to fear God.

The lady in question. Has she told her husband about the flowers, notes, gifts and money. If not, she's saying yes indirectly.
Men recognize NO when they see one.

lepasharon:
He was not a real muslim to begin with. The Koran says mohammed is the last prophet of God. Allah hates those who forms parties with Him

Anything that makes you sleep girl

for more on evolution

https://www.nairaland.com/2917639/much-better-explanation-evolution#42689095

Totalman1:
... So they don't need food but to eat Jesus? Hmm....

Re-read the post to which i replied.

jcross19:
This is beautiful story . There are many muslims that have seen the light and the truth but they are not bold enough to take the right step.

True. May God help them all.

Kenmatt:
I have come across many theories of evolutions.
Including; theological and archeological.

Who said man did not originate from ape?

I do not think I have got much time for much literal composition.

Please check this pic out.......

This is an ordinary drawing, it isnt real. Evolution is false. There is no proof of one specie changing to another.

Train up your child in the way he should go.

Flexherbal:
OP, thanks for this post.

You are welcome. God bless you.

Flexherbal:
The gospel to the poor, should put food on his table.

No. Jesus is the Bread of Life.

I quite agree with your last sentence. Investigation.
Everyone wants to serve the one true Creator of all.
But i think you made a mistake here.

adetayowale:
Have You ever thought that if truly there is God then the Religion of one's birth should be the Religion this God want one to have?. .

If God preprogrammed a religion into our lives, then freewill is false, we will just be robots. God created us with the ability to choose between good and evil, light and darkness and ultimately life and death.
Unfortunately we didnt ask to be created and we cant sit on the fence, we can only be grateful and live according to the principles of God.

Its very good to investigate ones religion especially if he/she was born into it.
Just like i tell some people, If i was born into a poor family, ill strive to become rich. But It will be foolishness to disbelieve both poverty and riches.

Rainmaker69:
Many couples attitude in marriage is as if they're fighting a war on different sides. Remember that you're on the same team and your union will grow stronger.

Thats what society has made us believe. Take sides and win the battle. Its the obvious reason for the surge in divorce rates.
Feminism, atheism, lesbianism e.t.c. I wonder how we will explain morality to the coming generation.

Sanchez01:
I have tried justifying it too. Why do you think Christians say "He is the reason for the season"? Some have come to know but still fight it. Emperor Constantine of the then Roman Empire who was partly Christian and partly Pagan then just so he could keep everyone together fused the celebration of Christ + that of Mars, a Roman god together to realize the celebration of December 25 today.

Forget constantine or rome. God created all days. Jesus can be celebrated anyday even if it clashes with the islamic Eid festivals. 25, 31, 1 anyday is okay for me. Personally, i stay at home and eat turkey on the 25th, i can shift that to 27th. Its not like it means anything, the main point and focus is to serve and praise God.

Sanchez01:
Everyone loves Christmas. I love it. But the big question is why December 25, the same as the celebration date of a Roman god? Christianity adopted a pagan practice here. Please ignore Paul's assertion. Were there Pagan practices in the Old Testament? Yes? And most of them corrupted the then Israel. Saul and Solomon are too few examples of people pagan practices corrupted. The big problem is here is Constantine, the then Roman Emperor who merged Pagan practices with Christian ways. Everybody loves Christmas, we celebrate Christ, perhaps, but is the day really the birth day of Christ? No!

If another date was chosen. Skeptics will still find a god to attribute it to. We have 365 days and there about 5000+ gods.
Personally, i see nothing wrong in celebrating Jesus anyday. He owns all days.

The song of solomon is a communication between lovers.

Dont think everyone who goes to church is a christian. Even some atheists here have confessed that they do go to church to sociallize or get pretty ladies. Everyone has a mission. The unfortunate thing is that we do not throw people out of the house of God.
When we begin to do what is right, then we will witness the change we need in Nigeria.

Flexherbal:
Our different ways of interpreting the bible is the problem we are having today. Some will say this, and others will say that.

With the spirit of God you will be able to discern. Did you expect the kingdom of darkness to keep still and mute .

Bonapart:
Keep up the good work brother Sanjay, for the Lord is with you.
If only the muslims can know that they're not serving the Lord God

may God keep calling them home

Some of my relatives are still muslims. Growing up, We argued and discussed severally. Some of them have converted. I keep praying to God for the rest. Only God can intervene.

Henryjr:
I pray to God for his enablement to overcome mine......
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And you shall overcome in Jesus Name. Amen
Lalasticlala.

ChappyChase:
Unfair comparison is enough to make some one go thief!

True. lalasticlala

Here are four ways that we might unknowingly push our children away from God.

Duplicity
There may be no greater way that parents push their children away from God than by professing Christ but not living it. I am reminded of a time when a child was told to answer the phone and tell the person that mom was not there. What does this tell the child? It seems to give them permission to lie, and children learn early on that lying is okay in some circumstances. When parents behave one way at church and then live totally different lives at home, children can see through that hypocrisy or duplicity a mile away. This drives them away from “religion” but also away from God.


Pushing Them Toward God
It’s ironic that when we push our children toward God and into a relationship with Him, we can push them away from Him. Jesus never forced Himself on anyone but only said, “Follow Me” (Matthew 16:24), not “You had better follow Me.” When parents are trying to put pressure on their children to be saved, they might cause a false conversion by their caving into their pressure just so the parents will get off their backs, or they might say they’re saved just to please their parents. But parents make a poor imitation of the Holy Spirit and can do more harm than good when they try to force their children into being saved. Let the Spirit of God convict them of their sins. It’s not a parent’s job to save them but only to point them to Christ.

The Hand Off
When parents abdicate or give up their role as their children’s primary spiritual teacher and hand off all that responsibility to a Sunday school teacher or a youth leader, they are giving up the greatest influence their children will ever have, which is his or her parents. What happens is that the Sunday school teacher’s or youth leader’s opinions are held in greater esteem than the parents’ opinions in spiritual or biblical matters.


Unfair Comparisons
When parents try to compare their own child with other children, the child might feel inadequate in the eyes of his parents. If parents say, “Look how good Jacob is at church, and see how well he behaves,” then they are sending their child the message that he is to be more like Jacob and not more like God. Also, when he sees the parents brag on another child and not him, then he’ll feel like a failure, which might even make them give up on trying since “when they measure themselves by one another and compare themselves with one another, they are without understanding” (2 Corinthians 10:12).


Conclusion
A great way that I was told to help children stay in the faith or come to Christ and be saved is to remind them of the great things God has done in the past so they can trust God with their future. The Old Testament command for parents remains the same today, as parents and grandparents are told, “You shall teach them to your children, talking of them when you are sitting in your house, and when you are walking by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, that your days and the days of your children may be multiplied in the land that the LORD swore to your fathers to give them, as long as the heavens are above the earth” (Deuteronomy 11:19-21).

May God richly bless you,

Pastor Jack Wellman

https://faithinthenews.com/4-ways-parents-unknowingly-push-their-kids-away-from-god/

"The world belongs to Satan," according to rock star Alice Cooper – and his job is to warn people that the Devil is real.

Known for his outrageous stage act which featured guillotines, electric chairs, chopped up dolls and songs about necrophilia, Cooper – born Vince Furnier – has been a Christian for many years.

In an interview with CNS News he spoke of his struggle with alcoholism, saying: "Thirteen years ago I stopped drinking and I started going back to church. I was throwing up blood every morning, I was really a bad alcoholic. I wasn't a cruel or mean alchoholic, but I was definitely a self-destructive one."

Asked what he would say to people struggling with drugs, alcohol or pornography, he said: "The world doesn't belong to us, the world belongs to Satan. We're living in that world, bombarded with that every day. If you don't have Christ in your life, you're a victim to that."

He also reflected on his Christian family heritage. "My grandfather was a pastor for 75 years," he said. "I grew up in a Christian home. My wife's father is a Baptist pastor. We were PKs, preachers kids and married each other. so I always refer to myself as the real prodigal son because ... I went out and the Lord led me through everything, maybe allowed it but then started reeling me back in, saying OK, you've seen enough, now let's bring you back to where you belong."


He continued: "When I stopped drinking I started going back to church with my wife and there was this pastor in Phoenix who was just hellfire. There'd be 6,000 people there and he was talking to me, every Sunday. I was exhausted. Every weekend I'd come out of there and I'd be, 'I don't want to go back.' But I always came back and I finally realised I had to go one side or the other."

While he was "still a rock and roller", he said, "I certainly don't do it in the same spirit I used to do it in. And I watch the songs, lyrically, about what I'm singing about. A lot of the songs I used to do were way over the line."

On the difference his faith had made, he said: "Before, you're always self-centred, everything is always for you, your self is god. Humans make lousy gods, we have to let God be God and us be what we are."


Cooper was also interviewed by DC Beacon for HM: The Hard Music Magazine. He has avoided what he calls 'celebrity Christianity' and told HM: "It's really easy to focus on Alice Cooper and not on Christ. I'm a rock singer. I'm nothing more than that. I'm not a philosopher. I consider myself low on the totem pole of knowledgeable Christians. So, don't look for answers from me."

In his stage persona, Cooper says that he sees himself as "the prophet of doom", warning his audience: "Be careful! Satan is not a myth. Don't sit around pretending like Satan is just a joke." He said: "I think my job is to warn about Satan."



Source; ChristianToday.

Being filled with the Holy Spirit is the most powerful and majestic experience a person can ever encounter. If I had to choose between going to Disneyland and being filled by the Spirit, I'd choose God's Spirit.

One of the many ways that the in-filling of the Holy Spirit manifests in believers is through one's speaking in tongues. This experience is also probably one of the most controversial topics in the Christian church today.

Some churches shun the idea of the possibility while others abuse the phenomenon by scripting and faking it to appear like God is baptizing them. Whichever the dilemma, there is one source of such problems -- that is a flawed understanding of the manifestation of the gift of tongues.

The Bible is the best tool to explain speaking in tongues. What does the Word of God have to say about it?

A functional manifestation
The gift of tongues is not something that God rewards for no reason. It is a functional manifestation that can actually be used for the edification of the church once interpreted accurately. So many churches practice it, but little seek the gift of interpretation which comes from the same God and also comes freely to those who ask.

1 Corinthians 14:27 says, "If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret."

A gift from God
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance." The gift of tongues comes from God and nowhere else. The words cannot be taught nor can it be copied, but just like any language, it takes time and practice to master and grow comfortable in.

A yardstick of faith
There are two problems that hinder the gift of tongues in the church: disbelief and fear. Both are born of a lack of faith. When we speak in tongues, we conquer both disbelief and fear, meaning our faith in God becomes unhindered.

A powerful tool
There is power behind the gift of tongues. Romans 8:26 tells us that "Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words."

When we don't have the points to pray for, the Spirit can give us utterance, which leads to us unknowingly interceding for certain points only in a different tongue.

While the gift of tongues cannot be limited to these four things, these four ideas break the most common misconceptions of the gift of tongues, and by understanding these, we can actually understand why God allows this manifestation to happen not only in the days of the early church, but up to today.

God bless you.

Article by patrick mabilong

Galatians 5:1 gives us the promise that "For freedom, Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." It is not God's design for man to be in chains and bondage, but it is His will that we experience Him freely.

One of the things that can enslave man is addiction. It comes in many forms and relies on different substances, ideas or people. People can be addicted to anything that takes the place of God in their lives for significance, identity, security or satisfaction.

Addiction is idolatry, and idolatry is sin. So many Christians today are sold under the yoke of this slavery, and God wants to liberate us from the yoke of addiction. But liberty and freedom come only through the truth, and that truth is Jesus, who brings revelations that redeem us and remove us from our sinful flesh.

Here are 5 realities about addiction that we must embrace to further understand addiction and how to be free from it.

1. We can be addicted to good things


People don't have to be addicted to harmful things such as drugs, alcohol and pornography to be sold to sin as a slave. We can also be addicted to good things such as ministry, work and family. Anything that takes God's place in our hearts as number one becomes an idol and we become addicted to it.

2. Addiction is destructive

We all know that "the wages of sin is death" and that we are redeemed from the power and consequence of sin through Christ. However, God doesn't just want us to be free from the punishment of sin but the grip of addiction as well. That's because addiction will always be destructive to our lives, our marriages, our careers and to our relationship with God.


3. Addiction is false freedom

2 Peter 2:19 says "They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved." We may think that being workaholic gives financial freedom, but it actually binds us up to the thinking that only our jobs can provide provision and security for us. Addiction makes you believe you are free when in fact we're very much in chains.

4. We are all addicted to something

Whether you're a pastor, a church volunteer or a Christian of thirty years, we are all addicted to something. It may be as subtle as being addicted to doctrine, to your property or even to a small hobby, but we all need to be freed from bondage to something. We will always need Jesus's redemptive power over our lives to say no to sin.

5. Addiction can be overcome

Isaiah 61:1 promises "The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound."

Addiction cannot be overcome by our own will power. There are no five ways to being free from addiction because there is only one way and that is Jesus Christ.


God bless you.

Article by patrick mabilong

Living in one of the most unreached places in the world, devout Muslim Sanjay's whole life changed when he was healed from cancer.

Growing up as a devout Muslim, Sanjay* gave his life to Jesus and now, despite persecution, shares the gospel with everyone he meets. Since his conversion, Sanjay has led hundreds to faith in Jesus and planted 50 small house churches for believers with Muslim backgrounds.

Sanjay's journey to faith started when he was in hospital in Kolkata, India, having chemotherapy.

"I was crying, and the one name that I did not want to believe in came back to me again and again – the name of Jesus," he says. "I was so weak and so sick. So I prayed to the Lord Jesus and said, 'will you heal me?'"

Slowly, Sanjay began to feel better. Knowing that something had changed, he returned to the hospital for tests and discovered the cancer was gone. He was healed. "I saw that only Jesus can save my life," he says, "nobody else can." Realising that it was Jesus who restored his health, Sanjay gave his life to Christ and got baptised.

West Bengal, where Sanjay lives, is one of the least evangelised places on the planet. When he discovered Jesus was real, Sanjay started preaching the gospel in his Muslim village and telling everyone he could about Christ. It was not well received.

"My family threw me out. They said, 'we want nothing to do with you. Since you have Jesus you can just go away.'" Other people began plotting against him. "They decided to break into my doctor's office where patients used to come and see me," he says.

Sanjay was afraid, and he prayed to God for protection. God acted, leading Sanjay's mother to have compassion on him and to let him come back home.

For years, Sanjay has been persecuted by many in his community for sharing the gospel. But he just won't stop. As well as working as a doctor, Sanjay has dedicated his life to serve as an evangelist and a church planter, supported in his ministry by UK charity BMS World Mission.

He has found a way to forgive those who persecuted him, as God forgave him. And now, miraculously, those who once attacked him come to him for medical care.

"People who persecuted me for many years got tired. They said, 'the more we tell him not to speak, the more he goes out and preaches'," says Sanjay. "People who wanted to throw me out, now they bring their patients to me and say, 'we're so sorry'."

Having already planted 50 churches for Muslim background believers, Sanjay shows no signs of slowing down – he is keen to press on with his ministry.

"Apart from Jesus there is no life," he says. "I am even more excited to tell others what Jesus has done. Every day I want to live for my Lord and keep on doing what I'm doing. Please pray that I can do

When lucifer fell and the kingdom of darkness was established, the Bible does not record that their powers were withdrawn.

Here's another possible headache for those who advocate the evolutionary theory.

A team of Polish and Brazilian scientists recently published a study in the journal "Scientific Reports" where they discussed a puzzling discovery: fossilised silk cocoons that may date back some 295 million years ago or during the Early Permian era.

The scientists were particularly intrigued by how the insects called caddisflies were able to survive and protect themselves from decay just by the use of their larval cases.

"Caddisflies (Trichoptera) are small, cosmopolitan insects closely related to the Lepidoptera (moths and butterflies)," the researchers stated in their report: "Most caddisflies construct protective cases during their larval development."

The scientists said that the larval cases are "primarily composed of whitish, transversely arranged and tightly joined together thin strips."

"In some instances, however, the cases may be completely disintegrated in the form of isolated strips chaotically scattered on the bedding plane. The strips form the main part of the cases and presumably represent the fossilised remnants of the silk material used by the larvae for case construction," they stated.

Brian Thomas, Science Writer for ICR, meanwhile, highlighted the fact that this discovery poses a major challenge to the evolutionary theory.

Thomas particularly stressed how the caddisflies seemingly were able to be exempted from evolution for millions and millions of years.

"It looks like ancient caddisfly larvae took exactly the same approach to underwater home construction as their living versions. If so, then how did these creatures manage to resist evolutionary changes over 295 million supposed years?" Thomas wrote in his article published by the ICR this week.

He further pointed out that based on earlier decay experiments, proteins "do not last one million years."

"If future research confirms these white caddisfly larvae casings as original silk proteins, then scientists set on conventional age assignments will face a new challenge explaining how actual strands of delicate silk could last almost 300 million years," he added.

KingEbukasBlog:
Had problems understanding what it means . Does this mean that your belief and faith alone in Christ qualify you to be part of the rapturable saints ? Christians who promote the concept of partial rapture believe that only faithful Christians will be taken on that day while the unfaithful ones will be left behind to suffer tribulation . Im now befuddled , is the 'full rapture' a heretical concept ?

Any help ?

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Hello bro. Sorry i ddint reply on time. Let me quickly share my opinions. Your faith, belief in Christ as the Son of God, the Saviour of the world, and your life according to His will is what will make one rapturable. Some terms are often misused.
-Faith is different from faith in God. You may have faith in material things.
-Belief in Christ as the Son of God is also not a guarantee to make Heaven. Someone might have this belief and still cling firmly to the world. Even demons hold this belief.
-Living your life according to God's will is the benchmark. You cant live according to God's will if you do not have faith in Christ and also believe in Christ.

Having said that, A rapture will take place (partial) before the tribulation Luke 21:36. Because the bible tells us that not all christians (unfaithful ones) will be raptured. Those ones will be left to suffer the tribulation. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-4 and 1 Corinthians 15:25 strongly suggests rapture after the tribulation.


Please read this article by; Watchman Nee http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Partial_rapture.htm

KingEbukasBlog:
Bro winner01 . Here is Dalaman in 2015 - 4 months ago . Repeating the same questions , making the same insinuations . He just changed his value to '3' this time . He's been told also numerous times that there are old earth creationists and young earth creationists . But this man never learns . He has been outwitted and now he is just being desperate .

Dalaman need real help. He keeps repeating the same thing over. I think in our spare time, we should give him the attention he needs, at least once in a while.
Happy sunday bro.

dalaman:
No one does what? No one speaks on your God's behalf? Isn't that what all you do? Isn't even what the tittle topic is all about? The OP is actually speaking on God's behalf and trying to tell people what he feels truly exist in heaven and the misconception they have about it. A few came and disagreed with him and they talked over it. If there is this God that exist as christians describe is it the OP that he will depend on to tell others about what happens in heaven his abode? No God that is alive will rely on the OP to tell any body about what goes on or how he plans to reward people in his abode except an imaginary God that lives inside the OP's head. The day you guys will allow this God of yours to tell people and state what he wants himself, that is why I will believe you guys are serious about the claims you make.

No one does it. Stop this wishful thinking. KingEbukasBlog titled this thread Do we receive mansions in heaven. He opened a thread for discussion and opinions from other christian scholars. Jesus promised many mansions and this thread is to analyze that promise carefully. So opinions, both negative and positive are obviously welcome. If he wanted God to speak to him about it, he will go to God in prayers. But he clearly wants to discuss it with other believers. You, A dullard on the other hand is desperately masturbating all over a place where christians are analyzing scriptures among themselves. You dont need to be here, no one is interested in proving anything to you or do you really crave attention that much. I'm starting to see other things you were denied, as a kid.

dalaman:
Are there worse animals than your God(the writes of the bible)? They lived worse than animals, they advised each other on how to sell their own daughters into slavery, raped the kids of other people, stole their lands, killed them among many other animal behavior. When you talk about animal behavious always remember that you are talking about the people who wrote the bible and also double as your God.

You are no relevant than an animal and cant prove otherwise, I'm sure people can see that you are just repeating the same thing, Read my previous replies, you'll see your answers. Your life is meaningless as you are a product of chaos, stop giving the meaning you borrowed from christianity or society to your life. Live like the bag of confusion that you are.

dalaman:
So this God of yours allows people to mistranslate his words so much so, that over 64,000 words were removed in one version as compared to another? Unfortunately for you it isn't the NIV alone that makes that acknowledgement the NLT also makes the same acknowledgement. Even the King James bible itself has been shown to contain a lot of errors so much so that a new king James version was made. I saw you trying to claim that Roman catholics are not christians, I know you do not know that Eramus a catholic priest and humanist edited the Greek text which stands behind the King James bible. So your God allowed catholics whom some of you claim are not christians to edit his words?

Here is an entry from Daniel Wallace a christian scholar who provides details and show the errors in translation of the KJV and why it is not the most accurate translation.

https://bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today

He allows people to choose and act for themselves otherwise we would be no better that robots. Its why evil people like you will stop at nothing to sow seeds of doubt in the minds of weak and unsuspecting believers. I wont be suprised if you or any other desperate anti-theist create your own bible versions. Seeing the way y"all invest your lives in encouraging people not to believe in God with you.

The most important thing is that wallace affirms with all evangelical Christians that the Bible is the Word of God, inerrant, inspired, and our final authority for faith and life.
The KJV might not be the best translation for wallace just like honda is not the best car for me. I prefer mercedes . But they are both cars. But when you start comparing a car and a boat, something's wrong upstairs.
My point: Translations might be different, but when it deviates into a change of standard doctrines, then there is a problem.

As for the NIV translation, even christians in Nigeria can testify to its compromise. Many broadcast messages on its compromise have been circulated to christians through social media.
The NIV teaches the false doctrine of original sin, and preaches salvation by faith alone.

The NIV removes the name above every other name (Philippians 2:9,10), Jesus, in 38 places. Why would any Bible translator remove the name of "Jesus" from the Word of God in 38 places? It is obvious that the people who produced the NIV are as desperate as you are.
The NIV translators (homosexual devils) have completely removed the following words from the bible: Godhead, sodomite, fornication, trucebreakers, winebibbers, carnal, slothful, unthankful, effeminate, backbiting, vanity, lasciviousness, whoredom, devils, Lucifer, damnation, brimstone, and the bottomless pitregeneration, mercyseat, Calvary, remission, Jehovah, immutable, omnipotent, Comforter, Holy Ghost, Messiah, quickened, infallible, et cetera.

The most popular christian verse John 3:16, Jesus is no longer proclaimed as the "only BEGOTTEN Son of God courtesy NIV, they removed the word 'begotten'

Of the 54 times "hell" is mentioned in the King James Bible, the NIV reduces it down to 14 times.

1st Timothy 3:16 states that "GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH"; but the NIV waters it down to... he was revealed in a body. In Philippians 2:6 of the NIV Jesus is no longer EQUAL with God; but rather, could not grasp equality with God.

There are many demonic plots in this book but Ill stop here.

dalaman:
I might not know what 23456 x 647483722 is but I know that it is not 3. The bible is there, it tells us how the universe was created by your own, unfortunately the universe we live in did not come about the way the bible describes it, if the bible gets it wrong on the creation of the universe why should any body believe it on the creation of humans? Your bible claims all humans came down from one man and one woman that were both created 6000 years ago.

No you do know, It is a number within range xxxxx.......xxxx, not 3. Ill teach you how to make relevant analogies dont worry.
You are sure of the inexistence of your Creator and yet not sure where you came from. More foolishly, you exercise so much knowledge on something you dont know. You crazy kid. You dont know what you dont know.

Can you provide a biblical reference of the earth being 6000 years old?.
In my opinion, the claim of 6000 years was gotten from Archbishop James Ussher, Bishop in the Church of Ireland in the 16th century. He took the genealogies of Genesis, assuming they were complete, and calculated all the years to arrive at a date for the creation of the earth on Sunday, October 23, 4004 B.C.
Many people have also come up with dates for creation, such as Johannes Kepler (3992 BC), Gerhard Hasel (4178 BC), and Isaac Newton (~4000 BC) but have received far lesser criticisms, and i keep wondering why.
These men were simply trying their best to get answers for humanity. But in your hurt and hate, you seem to be blind to the others and focus all your efforts on disproving christianity.

I respect these men but personally i dont think the age of the earth has been proven. Those who hold to billions of years trust that methods such as radiometric dating are reliable and assume that nothing has occurred in history that may have disrupted the normal decay of radio-isotopes. And of course, God could have created the universe in a state that “appears” to give it a very long age.

Just calm your nerves, We will keep making findings about our world as God commanded; "But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you; And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you. "Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you; And let the fish of the sea declare to you. "Who among all these does not know That the hand of the LORD has done this, In whose hand is the life of every living thing, And the breath of all mankind?" (Job 12:7-11)

dalaman:
It is actually a lie, the Koran does not say that Jesus was sinless. It also does not say that Jesus was perfect. You can provide the verses from the Koran that says Jesus was sinless and perfect.



For God so loved the world that he killed himself as a sacrifice to himself to save humans from a fire he created for some devil? Makes perfect sense.

This rat ehn . But you omitted the part where I said the quran recorded Jesus giving life(not to an already created life, but to clayey sand). Who gives life except the Giver of life itself?. Stop using the koran when you know nothing about it. You keep embarassing yourself



Its makes sense, You didnt answer how you will stop your grown son who is bent on committing suicide (say with a knife). Let me rephrase the bolded so i can show you how stup!d you sound.
For you loved your son that you bought a knife, and are confused on how to save your son from using on himself the knife you bought for food (probably).


Can your grown son decide for himself what he wants, Yes
Does man have free will, Yes

Did you buy the knife for your son, NO
Did God create hell for humanity, NO

Will you take measures to help your son out, Yes
Will God take measures to help his creations out, Yes (By providing an alternative).

God is not the man you have created in your created brains, Jesus(died and rose again) for your sins. Stop living a pointless life

dalaman:
You are a christian only because you were born into the religion, that is a statement of fact, if you were born into a muslim family you would have been a muslim.

I did not indoctrinate you, go take your anger out on the people that did. If you were born into poverty, you will strive to succeed. You will be foolish not to believe in success and poverty.

I am not from a total christian background, i've told you before. I just wanted to live life but sooner i found out that it dosen't work that way.
Stop making stup!d generalizations.

dalaman:
You are the one talking like a fool because you are lying. You lied that muslims are not even encouraged to invite non muslims to islam. That is a lie because Muslims are actually encouraged to to convert people to Islam. "To you your religion and to me mine" simply means that there is no compulsion in religion, every body has the right to practice his or her own religion. You are lying when you say it is one of the basic principles of Islam, it is not, it is not even a principle in Islam. The verse I quoted from the bible is very clear, who ever believe in Jesus is not condemned, but who ever does not is condemned already, that is what the verse says. It is not a warning, it clearly says that who ever does not believe in Jesus is condemned already. How is it different from what you said about Allah condeming people for not believing in Islam? Tell me.

Na wa oo, Na ancient book dey do you like this ? Whoever does not believe is not condemned but stands condemned and has the opportunity to heed to the warning while he/she is still alive. God loved the world and he sent His Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. He gave that warning severally.
Unfortunately for your argument, condemnation is a judgement. And the bible says, "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment".
When there is life there is hope.

Give us verses where allah commands muslims to invite people to islam in love and peace. And please dont run away from this one.

dalaman:
It is you that the bible makes to look stupid.

I dey laff you

dalaman:
Even when he was making his war crimes he was still making pro christian statements. He made the statement below in 1939 when he was already the head of Germany and was killing people.

“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledge
that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy
Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian
spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in
literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to
burn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our whole
life and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past …
(few) years.”

The bottom line is that Hitler was no different from someone like Moses, Joshua and other characters in the bible.

Okay, you were brain-dead when you gave his previous quotes right.

Now lets analyze. You said yourself that the country was majority "christian" country and he emerged leader in 1933. It is important to differentiate between Hitler's public speeches and writing and what he really thought. A devious or even atheist politician leading a nominally "Christian" country like 1930s Germany will say lots of Christian-sounding stuff to maintain popularity.

Mein Kampf gives Hitler's quote on propaganda:

"To whom should propaganda be addressed? … It must be addressed always and exclusively to the masses… The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for the first time placed within their field of vision. The whole art consists in doing this so skilfully that everyone will be convinced that the fact is real, the process necessary, the necessity correct, etc. But since propaganda is not and cannot be the necessity in itself … its effect for the most part must be aimed at the emotions and only to a very limited degree at the so-called intellect… it's soundness is to be measured exclusively by its effective result". (Main Kampf, Vol 1, Ch 6 and Ch 12)



In June 1941, Hitler ordered an invasion of the Soviet Union. And on 12th July, 1941, he gave the following quote

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
"Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

On 10th October, 1941, he said:

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." (p 43)

on 14th October, 1941, he said

"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
"Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
"...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
"Christianity is the liar....
"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." (p 49-52) Hitlers' Table Talks.


His quotes are exactly what you, johndon22 and other !diots spread here day and night. The only difference is that he was a better and sincere atheist than y'all will ever be because he acted in his own interest, unlike you he didnt borrow his idea of morality from religion or society, he acted based on what he felt was right not based on what religion or society thought was right. And you or anyone have no right or basis to condemn his actions.

KingEbukasBlog:
Morality means nothing to the atheist as they believe life was a cosmic mistake . Its the bitter truth and they try to hide it

. Very insincere lot.

KingEbukasBlog:
True ... Those quotes were made when made when he was a christian . Dalaman probably knows this but just wants to portray as Christians insane psychopaths . The atheists are pained that Mao , Stalin , Pot Pot , Kim are one of them and committed heinous crimes against humanity

The guy dull. He's forgotten he also has many pro-christian quotes to his name. He keeps embarrassing himself.
Im yet to see him give an answer to this sincere guy in the picture.

dalaman:
Isn't that why you guys do all the time, claim to be God's mouth piece. You claim there is this living God that is so powerful, he can do everything, he created the universe, created human beings as his children, wants human beings to be in a personal relationship with him but every day all we have are different people like you, constantly telling us about him and what he wants through different and contradictory messages. This God can not even say hi to any body but constantly relies on failed human beings like you to keep propagating it's conflicting and contradictory messages. I repeat a God that exist as advertised by christians will never depend on failed human beings like you to take on it;s behalf to any body. It will do it by its self. The reality of the matter is that you are constantly trying to propagate the message of this God idea that you were indoctrinated with because the God idea lives inside you head and imaginations and nowhere else.

No one does it, you only wish we did it. You want to get away with stupidity, not when i have some leisure time. If you want God to speak, talk to him. Dont post messages to me and then tell me to ignore them and allow God to reply. Is this how dull atheism has made you??
If you are so pained that your parents forcefully indoctrinated you as a kid, why pour your anger here. Go to them and cure them of their beliefs. They need it more than i do.

dalaman:
I have told you who the animals are, the writers of the bible who believed it was right to sell their daughters into slavery, kill their own children by stoning them to death for disobedience and killing their neighbors because they worshiped other Gods among so many other animal behavior. The people that wrote the bible who happen to be your God are the real animals.

You are an animal who will stop at nothing to make other humans live like animals. You can never prove that you are more relevant than an animal cos y'all are products of meaningless chance. Stop giving meaning to your life, live like the confusionist that you are.

dalaman:
I won't drop names of christian scholars or their general consensus about the matter so that you won't accuse them of being closet atheist or dismiss them with a wave of hand. I will just drop an example of a bible translation that states it clearly. The NIV states it clearly:

John 7:53-8:11New International Version (NIV)

The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53—8:11.

Take any NIV and you will see it clearly written there.

Im not like you, i dont stay on my claims or try to wriggle when im wrong. I never stated that the founding fathers of the worlds greatest countries were closet atheists, you did.

Yawns!!..The same NIV translators that removed 64,576 words as compared to the King James Bible! Okay.

Even with this your desperation, you may create your own version of the Bible so as to mislead others. Whatever it is man. The Word of God stands sure forever and ever.

Those who are interested in the NIV infection can go here; http://www.biblebelievers.com/williams_d1.html
http://www.trustingodamerica.com/NIV.htm

dalaman:
You do not know that you were created, you only believe that Yahweh not Allah created you because you were indoctrinated with the Yahweh God idea and not the Allah God idea.



The Koran records Mohammed as a better person than Jesus. Muslims also revere Mohammed and regard him as the most perfect man that ever lived, chew that too.

You and johnydon22 claim you dont know. And yet you exercise so much knowledge on what you dont know. You cannot know what you dont know. I Know that i was created not some result of an accident. And God is the Creator of the world. Cry for the rest of your life, you will find out sooner or later.


You sound stup!d when you make unintelligent claims about islam and the koran. KingEbukasBlog pointed that out to you already. The koran does not record any one as sinless and perfect except Jesus. The koran does not record that any human can give life but gave instances on Jesus giving life. Muhammed himself claimed to be imperfect. Stop exercising stupidity over what you dont know.

dalaman:
Salvation for who and for what? For acts of tribalism?




Your assertions are empty. I on the other hand is making a factual statement. You are a christian only because you were born into the religion and indoctrinated since you were a child.

"For God so loved the world" not for God so loved christians. The difference is clear. Your desperation will tell on your health sooner.


Not all families force their ideologies down the throat of their kids. If you were deprived of such freedom as a kid, i wasn't. And dont go about thinking that everyone has your kind of family. You keep waving hands.

dalaman:
You can tell lies all you want but the fact still remains. You said Allah has already condemned me for not being a muslim. I gave you a verse from your own bible that says that your own God also condemns me for not being a christian. How are the two different? The verse says who ever does not beileve in Jesus is condemned already because of his/her unbelief. How is that different from what you stated about Allah?

Stop talking like a fool. allah does not have provisions for non muslims and muslims are not even encouraged to invite non muslims to islam. "To you your religion and to me is mine" is one of the most basic principles of islam. God loved us while we were yet sinners and warns us against the consequences of our actions. The verse you quoted is a strict warning. I gave you analogies, put your brains to work and read them.

dalaman:
Since the writers of the bible are your God and you always use their writings as evidence that your God exist and speaks, the bible then will be the book I will also use when showing you stuffs about them and what they said that is pertinent to our discussion.

The bible makes you look stup!d and thats why you cant go a day without wishing it was evil. I dont spend time on lies, You live on lies.

dalaman:
Hitler has never stated that he was an atheist. Yet you deny this quotes from him where he clearly stated that he was a christain.

You also havent stated that you are an atheist on this thread. You are unintelligent. Im sure you have also made some pro-christian quotes before you found atheism foolishness.
I guess in your haste to prove how much of a christian hitler was, you went to copy crap from a site without looking at the date of the said quotes. He made those quotes in the 1920's you dullard. He was not even in power then.

He shed light on his devilish worldview in the 1940's

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges, the pox and christianity"- October 19th, 1941.

December 13th of the same year, "When all is said and done, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunized against the disease."


Now i want people to correlate the dates with the dates he committed war crimes, so as to see how desperate you are.

Dude, keep up, I'm miles ahead of you.