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Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo Reveals 6 Prophesies To Expect At Shiloh 2014 by winner01(m): 7:19am On Dec 09, 2014
NoContract:
[size=18pt]This prophecy is rife with fallacies! Damn!



Graves are closed. Buried, not to be opened again. So why must they be re-opened? To haunt or torment? Buried sickness will be opened? Tufiakwa!



Oh, Zechariah![/size]
one of d most significant events in christianity is the ressurection of Jesus Christ and when his grave opened.
Politics › Re: Photo Of Arrested Boko Members, Foreigners Among. by winner01(m): 9:26pm On Dec 08, 2014
Angel196:
Yep! the symbol is creasent moon and star just like for christians is the cross, but so whathuh

Every religion has its own bad apples but that doesn't mean the tree is bad. U said some were shot dead cos of failure to recite, could u justify that by bringing a qur'anic verse to support it. And if it does we would justify ur claim. the qur'an said in 2:256 there is no compulsion in religion. So don't blame islam, hate the bad apples and not the tree!
nice, but there are soo many compelling and dominating actions from its fruits....Pushing for an islamic sharia state itself is enough compulsion, intolerance and dominating and this seems to be the aim of all these terrorist organisations...we shud live together even with sinners with the aim of leading them to the right path, We can only have a city of saints in Heaven.
Christianity Etc › The Bitter Truth About Extra-biblical References And The Aim Of Lucifer. by winner01(op):
I was shocked when my neighbour showed me a book and said
it was distributed to every member of their church... The book
is called the book of mormon (the church of Jesus christ of
latter day saints). Yeah that's right, an extra biblical
reference.....Other extra biblical references I've heard of are;
the urantia book,
the 7 books of moses,
the secet of the psalms,
The marian apparition,
And some books from other faiths which teach about Jesus.
The authors of these books claimed to see and hear from God
Almighty, Christ, spirits, angels, extraterrestrial beings and
visitations of strange sorts.
Ever wonder there are so many denominations in Christianity,
each claiming to be the real Christ followers?, ever wonder why
there are several extra stories about the life of christ?, ever
wonder why there are several other faiths that teach about
Jesus?, ever wonder why free-masons and illuminati puppets
(musicians) sing against Christ?, ever wonder the reason why
churches spring up in hundreds?
The reason is simple; satan and his fallen angels recognise
how important it is to genuinely know Jesus Christ, and so they
slot in alternative ways to know christ.
In our quest for knowledge we need to be extremely carefully
because we must recognise that one common tactic that Satan
uses to deceive people is to claim new revelations that aren't
in the Bible. These extra-Biblical revelations are often very
seductive because they offer alleged secret knowledge that
wasn't revealed in the Bible. Books like the Urantia book are
even more seductive because of their elaborate, in-depth
expose of the spiritual world and the alleged universes beyond
our own.

What most people who get caught up in these cults don't
realize is who they're matching wits with. Most of us like to
think we've got reasonably good instincts and that we're
pretty good at picking out the heresy. We probably can do a
pretty good job when matching wits with most other people.
Perhaps that gives us a false sense of security that we
mistakenly think also applies to matching wits with the spiritual
world.

The problem is that when we try to match wits with Satan, he's
going to win almost every time if we try to go it alone. It is vital
to remember who
Satan is. Once upon a time a great creation, he was created
with an amazing, in-depth knowledge and power that he
became prideful and foolishly believed he could be an equal to
his creator. When Satan was ejected from Heaven, the Bible
didn't say that God took away all that knowledge or his ability
to engage in supernatural activities. The truth is that Satan is a
master deceiver and story teller. He knows what ingredients he
must weave into his story telling to make them alluring to
unsuspecting, and uninformed people. His goal is to seduce us
away so that we will follow him willingly, even cheerfully. He's
not going to have near the success if he tries clobbering
us over the head with obvious demonic doctrines and he's
smart enough to know that. He mixes just enough truth in with
his lies to sneak the lies past us, under our radar.

He and other fallen angels and demons understand the intense
curiosity that humans posses and plays to it by spinning
elaborate tales that dazzle and amaze us. They play on our
fears by soothing us with lying reassurances that Hell does not
exist, or by focusing only on God's love and mercy while
distracting us away from God's judgment and wrath. They
exploit our pride and or desire for power by telling us we
too can become gods. They focus on our desire to trust by
false reassurances that these extra-Biblical revelations are in
harmony with the Bible. They exploit our desire to be loved by
mixing in strong messages of love with the poison that
will ultimately lead to our spiritual death in Hell. They play on
a variety of lusts including sexual promises. Their ability to
deceive would make the combined Psychological Operations
units of all the world's military's seem like childish amateurs.

For those who lack a solid biblical foundation about how Satan
and other fallen angels operate, and what Biblical doctrines
they normally attack, the demonic realm can play them like a
fiddle. These deceived people will often experience a false
sense of peace that comes from the new
"enlightenment" they believe they've received from the extra-
Biblical revelations, whatever they happen to be. They may go
to their graves thinking all is well, and looking forward to an
eternity in heaven, only to discover the ugly
truth when it's too late. They will learn in the next life that like
sheep to the slaughter, Satan and/or other fallen angels had
been leading them around by the nose the whole time with his
tall tales, signs and wonders and clever deceptions.
It doesn't have to be this way. The good news is that God did
not leave us defenceless against this kind of trickery. He gave
us everything we need in the Bible to enable us to separate the
wheat from the chaff. The bible verses that follow represent
only a tiny fraction of what God revealed to us that enables us
to see through even Satan's best efforts to deceive us.

Sadly, many of these deceived people will never turn to the
Bible for the life-saving guidance it can give them. They avoid
the Bible for a variety of reasons. Some do so because of sin in
their life they're afraid they'll have to give up if they
fully submit to God's authority in the manner God demands it
of them in scriptures. Others won't turn to the Bible because
Satan has already thoroughly deceived them into not trusting
it. Others will turn to the Bible but because they
are members of liberal churches who engaged in what could
only be described as highly tortured Bible interpretation, they
won't find the truth even though it's right under their noses.

The bottom line is this. You can't trust someone else to do your
thinking and studying for you. You have
a personal responsibility to God to earnestly seek the truth,
and to not ignore God if you sense He's calling you back to the
Bible to find His truths
there. In the end, you will be judged on Judgment Day for how
well YOU put forth effort to discover
His truth, not how well others did your thinking for you.

Deuteronomy 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither
shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the
commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32
What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt
not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put
their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove
thee, and thou be found a liar.

Revelation 22:18-19
The previous verses quoted were from old testament books.
The final book of the Bible was the book of Revelation. It is
physically the last book in the Bible, but it was also the last
book written in the Bible (90 AD). Revelation begins with these
verses:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to
shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to
pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his
servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of
the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of
this prophecy, and KEEP those things which are written
therein: for the time [is] at hand.

Revelation 1:1-3
Revelation ends with these verses:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this
book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the
book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the
book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things
which are written in this book.

Galatians 1:6-12
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not
another; but there be some that trouble you, and would
pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from
heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we
have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said
before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be
accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to
please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the
servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel
which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither
received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the
revelation of Jesus Christ.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some
shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and
doctrines of devils; 1 Timothy 4:1

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:11

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall
shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were]
possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24

For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no
marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:13-14

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as
there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring
in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought
them, and bring upon themselves swift
destruction. 2Peter 2:1

This is not to judge but a reminder to test all spirits as the
bible commands..

Drop religion and embrace TRUTH and REALITY.

Bless you.

Politics › Re: Should Jonathan Have Declared His Presidential Ambition Despite The Bomb Blast? by winner01(m): 8:12am On Nov 13, 2014
boss1310:
yes you didnt mention any party yet the way you were are ease bad mouthing those who made a comment about an elected president and his opponents suggests the team you are playing for,i didn't see you do the same to those who wrote against the president or did you.if you really love nigeria then you should know that jonathan is not your enemy but those who insisted there will be no peace in this country because a southerner is at the helms of affairs yes he is the president and chief security officer but he can't do it alone he needs help from the common man like you(who only help to him is to call him clueless)to the governor of a state.i never heard people complain about what the governors of those affected states have been doing being they are closer to the actions and the people,they robbed my cousin last week may be i will blame jonathan abi.
Back to the topic i want you to know that jonathan is a citizen of this country and have the rights to declare his candidacy(same way you have rights of expression here)even when blood thirsty hooligans wants him not to do so and thats what is argued here.as for the people campaigning for the presidency only jonathan looks credible than others am not saying he is better than all Nigerians but he is better than his opponents we all are Nigerians and we know it.but to use words SIMILAR to yours(cos i ve overgrown using those american wannabe curse words,i call them teenage words)i dont care about jonathan,buhari,atiku and the rest they are all politicians but i care about my beloved country Nigeria and if we will have a presidential election next year there is no better candidate than the sitting president,shey you dey hear am.
so those people who insisted on causing violence are now greater than the commander in chief of the armed forces according to you, or some1 who condones numerous scandals, who gulps billion of dollars giving lame excuses,....is obviously not my friend or the friend of any Nigerian....so if I don't support jonathan, I automatically am in support of apc or other parties abi, or he needs help from me to end phcn problem or to provide jobs for millions of nigerian graduates.....all these just shows how smart you are....
Politics › Re: Should Jonathan Have Declared His Presidential Ambition Despite The Bomb Blast? by winner01(m): 11:29pm On Nov 12, 2014
boss1310:
i usually know people who are frustrated when they are so fast to insult others who dont agree with their opinion.you want me to support buhari?na na,i witnessed his regime at a young age he should go and rest,speaking of making promises on national tv buhari made a tearful promise on national tv not to contest again if he can renege on that as an aspirant what will he do if he becomes president.if you support those who want the president not to declare his candidacy based on the murder of those kids then you know you are one of the supporters of those who did that just to stop a man from exercising his rights.
i love jonathan and no insults from you or others can dissuade him from winning next year nor me voting for him,the irony is that i dont belong to any political party so keep your apc agendas one side.
Get this straight no sitting president not even obama is loved by his whole country so be free to hate and insult your president but i bet you that nobody can do that to buhari if he is the president.don't stop your name calling cos thats the only way you know how to make your points lolz
when I read comments from people like you, I weep for Nigeria.....Look at my previous comments and tell me if u can find any support for buhari, apc or whatever...I'm a supporter of Nigeria and I'm just tired of insincerity from the govt....I don't care abt apc,pdp,apga whatever, I only care about nigeria and humanity.....thousands upon thousands of lives have been lost and they are our brothers and sisters and our govt. is vividly incapable of handling them, The primary assignment of any president of any country in the world is to protect the lives of its citizens, if lives have been lost and the govt. Keeps telling all sorts ranging from arrests made, to consoling the affected families repeatedly, to being on top of the situation..then I think its time to put a halt to these demons....Nobody in any country is more powerful or influential than its president....if provisions are made and the order is given this hour, boko haram will be ended, except of course he has a hand in it ( I will never write off the possibility of human sacrifices except you want to tell me why the Nigerian association of witches and wizards were invited to his inauguration).....once again, I don't giv a fu*k abt apc,pdp,apga,ad, buhari,tinubu,goodluck,fashola or any political rubbish, I only care abt humanity, Nigeria and its future..
Politics › Re: Should Jonathan Have Declared His Presidential Ambition Despite The Bomb Blast? by winner01(m): 3:18pm On Nov 12, 2014
boss1310:
no but if people can kill school children to stop a current president from declaring his candidacy yet people blame him for going ahead then other contestants shouldnt have declared at all till the whole country is at peace
Politics › Re: Should Jonathan Have Declared His Presidential Ambition Despite The Bomb Blast? by winner01(m): 2:39pm On Nov 12, 2014
boss1310:
no but if people can kill school children to stop a current president from declaring his candidacy yet people blame him for going ahead then other contestants shouldnt have declared at all till the whole country is at peace
very illogical statement, give proof or shut d f**k up...................2011, the president claimed to know the sponsors and to release the list of their sponsors, he even said this on national T.V and till now, the "sponsors" are still at large, and u still can't recognise this height of deceit, incompetence and insensitivity from the govt....means that thousands more should die from boko haram attacks in d nxt 4yrs.....if u can't do anythn about them, for the sake of the lives that will be lost kindly step down and let see what another can do....and stop being dumb, provide proof of shut up
Politics › Re: Should Jonathan Have Declared His Presidential Ambition Despite The Bomb Blast? by winner01(m): 10:07pm On Nov 11, 2014
boss1310:
buhari also should have waited till the release of chibok girls before declaring his own
buhari na current president??
Sports › Re: Look At What Barca Cost Me by winner01(m): 6:39pm On Nov 08, 2014
akereconfi:
£142,200
which betting site is that?
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 12:26am On Oct 26, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Reading through your post. It seems your mind is made up and closed to Reasoning upon other ideas. In a nutshell, one sided reasoning. There is no need for me to continue this discussion then.

Show me in the bible the phrase "God the Son"

Is there any difference between the phrase "Son of God", "God's son" and "God the Son"?

Phil 2:6 above - see the bolded section, ponder over it.

You carefully omitted Phil 2:9 for your convenience. Did Paul call Jesus God there. "Therefore God has highly exalted him (Jesus).....", Did you notice verse 11:"...God the Father".

Did Paul see Jesus as his God?
Eph 1:17- "that the God of our Lord Jesus christ, the Father of glory....."


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Here oh Isreal, our lord our God is "ONE" not "Three".
He is not three headed or three-faced.
off point, they bear witness in heaven and several times the apostles said the grace( may the grace of our Lord jesus christ......... etc) ....nobody is saying they are equal but they are ONE...and I still maintain that you are only just human...may God give you the answers you seek,
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 12:18am On Oct 26, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Obviously, you did not read the scriptures quoted. I did not speak of my originality but what is in the scriptures I told you.

Man and beast/animals are the same (flesh, blood, bones, spirit etc) even Science says so. Na because of people like you na make Atheist dey talk wetin dem dey talk.

Paul said there is a physical body and a Spiritual body also. They are different. Man cannot possess both at the same time.

God is spirit according to John you quoted, Jesus is a life giving spirit where is the different form you speak of?
science, atheists, lol...may God give you understanding, I'm out.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 1:34am On Oct 25, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Eccl 3:19-21 " Animals have Spirits too" are they created in God's image too. After all they have body, Spirit and are refer to as "souls" in the bible a good number of times.

What makes human special- in that same way we reflect God's image not the composition of our body.



Yes, Man his a soul, with only body he was a dead soul. Man only became a "Living" soul when he has breath of life in him- just like electricity powers a radio. Note the bolded section.




The man and his soul is not seperate, what happens to one affects the other. Man himself is a soul.



Man has facial hairs and women have breast, do God have any of these? You need to ask yourself, in what way is man/woman created in the image of God.



Jesus exist in the "image of God", so if man is made in that same "image", we are like them. It does not prove anything. A father can have several children who inherits his traits and features.



Jesus knew the disciples believe in God, the closing statement he is asking them to BELIEVE IN HIM "ALSO". The use of the word also means they are different beings not the same.



Eccl 3:19,20 -" Man and beast (animals) go to the same place, they die and turn to dust. Same eventuality.



Eze 18:20 " The soul that sinneth Shall die...." Soul dies with the Body. The book of Revelation is giving in "Signs", everything is symbolic-figurative language not literal.


Now, Can Mary seperate are Soul or her spirit from her self. Was it really are Soul or Spirit that was speaking what was written down here? How can her Spirit or Soul speak/praise/rejoice? Where is her spirit/ soul located?

The Father was in Heaven, Jesus was in Heaven and the Holy spirit was on earth- filling upward of 120 persons at a time. You get, not to mention, the Son was on earth existing seperately I might add.



If the Spirit leaves the body, one die, is that so. How then is the body "independent" of the spirit. So if the holy spirit leaves Jehovah God, Jehovah or Jesus dies- is that it?
Bravo, A "christian" who does not believe in the manifestation of the spirit, John 4:24..Even the physical manifestation of the spirit....You can even tell me that there are no such thing as evil spirits,...I see no sense in many of your points up there, man is not a soul, he is an embodiment of the body,soul and spirit and in the spiritual realm, the spirit exists and functions,.....God and Jesus in heaven, Holy spirit on earth, well that is why he is God.....oh yes,spirits do speak, rejoice and act...its hard for you to comprehend, I know, but its about God and you are just as human....its His Word, and it is settled...God bless
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 11:54pm On Oct 24, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Eccl 3:19-21 " Animals have Spirits too" are they created in God's image too. After all they have body, Spirit and are refer to as "souls" in the bible a good number of times.

What makes human special- in that same way we reflect God's image not the composition of our body.



Yes, Man his a soul, with only body he was a dead soul. Man only became a "Living" soul when he has breath of life in him- just like electricity powers a radio. Note the bolded section.




The man and his soul is not seperate, what happens to one affects the other. Man himself is a soul.



Man has facial hairs and women have breast, do God have any of these? You need to ask yourself, in what way is man/woman created in the image of God.



Jesus exist in the "image of God", so if man is made in that same "image", we are like them. It does not prove anything. A father can have several children who inherits his traits and features.



Jesus knew the disciples believe in God, the closing statement he is asking them to BELIEVE IN HIM "ALSO". The use of the word also means they are different beings not the same.



Eccl 3:19,20 -" Man and beast (animals) go to the same place, they die and turn to dust. Same eventuality.



Eze 18:20 " The soul that sinneth Shall die...." Soul dies with the Body. The book of Revelation is giving in "Signs", everything is symbolic-figurative language not literal.


Now, Can Mary seperate are Soul or her spirit from her self. Was it really are Soul or Spirit that was speaking what was written down here? How can her Spirit or Soul speak/praise/rejoice? Where is her spirit/ soul located?

The Father was in Heaven, Jesus was in Heaven and the Holy spirit was on earth- filling upward of 120 persons at a time. You get, not to mention, the Son was on earth existing seperately I might add.



If the Spirit leaves the body, one die, is that so. How then is the body "independent" of the spirit. So if the holy spirit leaves Jehovah God, Jehovah or Jesus dies- is that it?
Carefully slotting in the heresy huh. Simple Logic does not work with the things of God....Jesus Christ did claim to have a Father, cried out to the Father, prayed to the Father e.t.c and also claimed divinity....I don't see your point because no true christian claims that Jesus is God the father, the bible clearly shows us that they exist as different divine Beings....However, many christians will agree with you that Jesus is God the son, the bible will forever point to that fact.......

phil 2:6 who, although He
existed in the form of
God, did not regard
equality with God a
thing to be grasped,
7 but emptied Himself,
taking the form of a
bond-servant, and
being made in the
likeness of men.
8 Being found in
appearance as a man,
He humbled Himself
by becoming obedient
to the point of death,
even death on a cross

I know it does not agree with human logic and wisdom, that what it is when it comes to the things of God (our Creator).
I think I now get where you are driving at likening Jesus to a prophet, try hardest and you are still the created..
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 11:44pm On Oct 24, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
God spoke Through "the Prophets" just like he spoke through "the son", proving the Son is not the Same as God Almighty, he his just a servant like "the Prophet" with a Special position - God's only begotten son.

See the bolded section: Jesus was appointed heir to God, just like a human Father does through his Last will and testament.

"BY WHOM ALSO he made the worlds"- Jesus his the architect God used to make the world.



Note the bolded section, Jesus is the "express IMAGE of God", not the Almighty himself. The use of the word "image" denotes Jesus is not the Original.

Jesus sat down at the right hand of the "Majestic on high", meaning he is not the Majesty on high. He is just his right hand man. No mention of the Holy spirit. Try compare other translation of this verse.




Did you notice the bolded section, Was God Almighty MADE/CREATED ? Here the Son was MADE/CREATED (not my words please).

Jesus obtain a more excellent name, How? A: By INHERITANCE, same way a firstborn son inherits things from his father. Does an ALMIGHTY GOD needs inheritance or inherits anything from anyone?




The relation of God and Jesus explained in common terms man can understand eg "a Father and a son"- they are not equal and not the same.

Did you not the mention of " this day" by God himself.



Why is Jesus called the First begotten? What does that expression me.

Did this verse mean, "Let all the angels of Jesus worship Jesus" or "Let all the angels of God (who is seperate from Jesus) worship Jesus".

Someone gave the command or go ahead for the angels to worship Jesus before they did. It was not just voluntary.



Look closely at the bolded section. Did you see the Father telling Jesus something there, reminding him and you reading that scripture that Jesus has a God above him.

Tell me, who are Jesus "Fellows" whom he was anointed or elevated over?


Jesus called the Father- "My God"-John 20:17.
The Father has never called Jesus such. You still don't see any difference in that.
Please show me where either Jesus or the Father call the Holy spirit God.

The point: Jesus has a God he answers to, so he can't be the ALMIGHTY but the Father on the other hand, has no one above him, not even one like him.
Carefully slotting in the heresy huh. Simple Logic does not work with the things of God....Jesus Christ did claim to have a Father, cried out to the Father, prayed to the Father e.t.c and also claimed divinity....I don't see your point because no true christian claims that Jesus is God the father, the bible clearly shows us that they exist as different divine Beings....However, many christians will agree with you that Jesus is God the son, the bible will forever point to that fact.......

phil 2:6 who, although He
existed in the form of
God, did not regard
equality with God a
thing to be grasped,
7 but emptied Himself,
taking the form of a
bond-servant, and
being made in the
likeness of men.
8 Being found in
appearance as a man,
He humbled Himself
by becoming obedient
to the point of death,
even death on a cross

I know it does not agree with human logic and wisdom, that what it is when it comes to the things of God (our Creator).
I think I now get where you are driving at likening Jesus to a prophet, try hardest and you are still the created..
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 4:33pm On Oct 24, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Not all christian believe what you believe. Prove to me from the Bible that the Body, Spirit and Soul can exist independently from one another. Note: Body without spirit is dead, both need each other for the being to be called a living soul.
In christianity, you are either a believer or not a believer,
you should know that there exists a realm other than the physical, then tell me if our flesh exists in that realm?....
You should also know that "You shall not surely die", as a christian that physical death means separation of your body and soul, while spiritual death is the separation of God and man......

Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which
is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Note; the body can be killed and not the soul

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth
as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Note; the spirit returns

Genesis 2:7 - And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust
of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of
life; and man became a living soul. Note: God gave the form of man a soul

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God [is] quick, and
powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing
even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the
joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and
intents of the heart. Note:

Matthew 16:26 - For what is a man profited, if he shall
gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall
a man give in exchange for his soul?

Genesis 35:18 - And it came to pass, as her soul was in
departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni:
but his father called him Benjamin. Note: the soul departed

Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his [own] image, in
the image of God created he him; male and female
created he them. Note of course: Gods image

Galatians 5:16-17 - [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and
ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Note: walk in the spiritual realm

Genesis 1:26-27 - And God said, Let us make man in our
image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and
over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

1 Corinthians 15:35-58 - But some [man] will say, How are
the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

John 14:1-3 - Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in
God, believe also in me.

Genesis 3:19 - In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat
bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast
thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou
return. Note where the body returns to

Revelation 6:9-11 - And when he had opened the fifth
seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were
slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which
they held, Note : souls were seen

1 Corinthians 2:14 - But the natural man receiveth not the
things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto
him: neither can he know [them], because they are
spiritually discerned.

Luke 1:46-47 - And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the
Lord, my spirit rejoices in God my saviour. Note: her soul magnifies, her spirit rejoices

Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our
image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and
over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

3 John 1:2 - Beloved, I wish above all things that thou
mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul
prospereth. Note: soul prosperity

The independent existence of the body, soul and spirit must be understood else, life after death makes no sense...God bless
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 3:59pm On Oct 24, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
In your hurry to prove yourself you forgot verse 9: "You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity; THEREFORE GOD, EVEN YOUR GOD has anionted you with the oil of gladness ABOVE YOUR PARTNERS/FELLOWS".

Please interpret that for me.
Hebrews chapter1
Verse1. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake
in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom
he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he
made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express
image of his person, and upholding all things by the word
of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins,
sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath
by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than
they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou
art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I
will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the
world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels
spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever
and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy
kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;
therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the
oil of gladness above thy fellows

Of course, Jesus called God the Father GOD in several scriptures in the bible, God the Father also calls Jesus Christ God as we can see here.....The bible also tells us that the word was God...Once again, The only sense you can make is to fault the credibility of the Holy Bible and not the concept of the Holy Trinity.....As the bible confirms over and over again the triune form of our Creator, i find it difficult to believe that you are a christian who believes in the story of salvation through Christ....God the Father sent Him (God the Son) to the earth to take on the sins of man (Note; no man, only God could take on the sins of man). If you don't believe this, then I'm sorry (foolish is the message of the cross).....You might even want to tell me who God was talking to during creation as I asked in my article,
Bottom line is Gods existence is extremely beyond human reasoning, He created us, we didn't create Him. However we can start to know Him through his word, the Bible.

Ecc 8:17 then I saw all that God has done.
No one can comprehend what
goes on under the sun. Despite all
their efforts to search it out, no
one can discover its meaning.
Even if the wise claim they know,
they cannot really comprehend it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 10:31pm On Oct 23, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Why do you refer me to your half baked thread. It does not relate to my previous post rather it points to other flaws in your argument.

The RCC did not want the bible to be translated in common languages and widely distributed to common folks because they want to hold people in false teachings. Seeing intelligent people to still falling prey is so sad.

Tell me, Thomas called Jesus God, yes that you believe very easily because it suits you. Good, you claim to be a christian- which means follow of christ not Thomas (Jesus' words have more weight/authority than thomas).

Now Tell me, John 20:17 - Jesus called someone his God (Mind you than is not the only place he mentioned having a God). In what way did Jesus have a God?. What is the name/identity of the one Jesus called his God?. In Thomas' God-Jesus has a God whom he answers to, Who then is the ALMIGHTY GOD (Note: that title cannot be held by two equal beings- reason "ALL"wink.

Your God- Jesus is under someone- My God-Jehovah. So my God is superior to yours.

How many Holy spirit are there? Luke 11:13 " if ye then being evil know how to give good gifts unto your children:how much more shall YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE the HOLY SPIRIT to them that ask him?"

So if 1 million christians ask the Father for Holy spirit and as a loving Father he gives all of them just like he gave 120 at the penticost 33CE, how many holy spirit are their? Holy many God are there?

There are Gods, but to us there is only one true one, the Almighty.
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Your logic, we are made in God's image : Spirit, body and Soul.

I tell you, human can not leave without their spirit/soul seperate from them, but apperently your 3 in 1 God can: yet we made in his image.
And concerning the issue of the spirit, soul and body...I doubt you are a christian, if you are then you would know that those three forms can exist independently, at least on the subject of life after death.,maybe you should just read the article again, this time with open mindedness, God bless
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 10:30pm On Oct 23, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Why do you refer me to your half baked thread. It does not relate to my previous post rather it points to other flaws in your argument.

The RCC did not want the bible to be translated in common languages and widely distributed to common folks because they want to hold people in false teachings. Seeing intelligent people to still falling prey is so sad.

Tell me, Thomas called Jesus God, yes that you believe very easily because it suits you. Good, you claim to be a christian- which means follow of christ not Thomas (Jesus' words have more weight/authority than thomas).

Now Tell me, John 20:17 - Jesus called someone his God (Mind you than is not the only place he mentioned having a God). In what way did Jesus have a God?. What is the name/identity of the one Jesus called his God?. In Thomas' God-Jesus has a God whom he answers to, Who then is the ALMIGHTY GOD (Note: that title cannot be held by two equal beings- reason "ALL"wink.

Your God- Jesus is under someone- My God-Jehovah. So my God is superior to yours.

How many Holy spirit are there? Luke 11:13 " if ye then being evil know how to give good gifts unto your children:how much more shall YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE the HOLY SPIRIT to them that ask him?"

So if 1 million christians ask the Father for Holy spirit and as a loving Father he gives all of them just like he gave 120 at the penticost 33CE, how many holy spirit are their? Holy many God are there?

There are Gods, but to us there is only one true one, the Almighty.
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Your logic, we are made in God's image : Spirit, body and Soul.

I tell you, human can not leave without their spirit/soul seperate from them, but apperently your 3 in 1 God can: yet we made in his image.
And concerning the issue of the spirit, soul and body...I doubt you are a christian, if you are then you would know that those three forms can exist independently, at least on the subject of life after death.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 10:16pm On Oct 23, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Why do you refer me to your half baked thread. It does not relate to my previous post rather it points to other flaws in your argument.

The RCC did not want the bible to be translated in common languages and widely distributed to common folks because they want to hold people in false teachings. Seeing intelligent people to still falling prey is so sad.

Tell me, Thomas called Jesus God, yes that you believe very easily because it suits you. Good, you claim to be a christian- which means follow of christ not Thomas (Jesus' words have more weight/authority than thomas).

Now Tell me, John 20:17 - Jesus called someone his God (Mind you than is not the only place he mentioned having a God). In what way did Jesus have a God?. What is the name/identity of the one Jesus called his God?. In Thomas' God-Jesus has a God whom he answers to, Who then is the ALMIGHTY GOD (Note: that title cannot be held by two equal beings- reason "ALL"wink.

Your God- Jesus is under someone- My God-Jehovah. So my God is superior to yours.

How many Holy spirit are there? Luke 11:13 " if ye then being evil know how to give good gifts unto your children:how much more shall YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE the HOLY SPIRIT to them that ask him?"

So if 1 million christians ask the Father for Holy spirit and as a loving Father he gives all of them just like he gave 120 at the penticost 33CE, how many holy spirit are their? Holy many God are there?

There are Gods, but to us there is only one true one, the Almighty.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your logic, we are made in God's image : Spirit, body and Soul.

I tell you, human can not leave without their spirit/soul seperate from them, but apperently your 3 in 1 God can: yet we made in his image.
you seem to know all about your "creator", you might even tell me how He came into existence.....I'm beginning to get confused on your idea of the "creator" and the created.....No matter how much you force it, He created you and there are certain things that will never be overly clear to us until we see our Creator...Until you can explain fully to me His ways, power, omnipresence, infinite nature and how He came into existence amongst others don't preach that you fully know His Form.....However the bible as our guideline has recorded truth and with the help of the holy spirit, we can discover this truth......the form of our creator might sound foolish to you, well so are his ways and even the message of the cross

1cor1:25 Because the
foolishness of God is
wiser than men, and
the weakness of God is
stronger than men.
1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the
cross is foolishness to
those who are
perishing, but to us
who are being saved it
is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:21
For since in the
wisdom of God the
world through its
wisdom did not know
him, God was pleased
through the
foolishness of what
was preached to save
those who believe.
1 Corinthians 2:14
The person without
the Spirit does not
accept the things that
come from the Spirit
of God but considers
them foolishness, and
cannot understand
them because they are
discerned only
through the Spirit.

There are several biblical scriptures pointing to this truth in the article I referred you to, even the Almighty God said this of the Son

Hebrews 1:8
But about the Son he
says, "Your throne, O
God, will last for ever
and ever; a scepter of
justice will be the
scepter of your
kingdom.

Finally, I think you should turn your argument towards the credibility of the Bible rather than the triune form of God, all your rants about some sect keeping people in false beliefs, selective bible distribution, false teachings e.t.c will for a better basis there...God bless.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A God Suppose To Have God by winner01(m): 7:25pm On Oct 22, 2014
efedua:
Am calling on the adepts of the religion section to help answer this question; Is a God or god suppose to have God,whom it should worship? Am stressing especially on the capital letter form, feel free to give your answer or contributions it will all be welcomed.
www.nairaland.com/1939388/man-trinity-god-trinity-created#26990237
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 7:10pm On Oct 22, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
If you really mean it then.

Isaiah 9:6 "... his name will be called wonderful counsellor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER...."

Yes, this scripture relates to Jesus ( a child is born) and he is a mighty God "but it did not say Almighty God". Note that difference. Before you say Jesus is the Same as the one Called "The Father" , Note Everything Jesus said about the Father from Matthew to John.

Romans 9:5 "to them belong the Patriach and of their race, according to the flesh, is the christ[b].[/b] God who is over all be blessed for Ever. Amen. "

I don't know your intentions for quoting this scripture, but don't tell me you did not notice the FULL STOP sign between the word "Christ" and "God". That is not a coma, mind you. Q: So what do will use full stop sign for? A: to seperate two sentence/ thoughts/ ideas.

Yes Jesus is a Mighty God but he is not God the Almighty/Jehovah, if you claim to believe in Jesus then also believe him when he said "he has a God he answers to- John 20:17).

Q: How does a God have a God?
IF Jesus has a GOD (Jehovah) what does that say about him?
Where in the bible is the Holy spirit called a god or God or even equated to God?
www.nairaland.com/1939388/man-trinity-god-trinity-created#26990237
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Jesus Is God? If Yes Then Answer These Questions by winner01(m): 7:02pm On Oct 22, 2014
Madawaki01:
If Jesus was
GOD, then why in Mark
12:29 did Jesus say, "Here,
O Israel: The Lord our
God is one Lord." The
words "our God" indicate
that Jesus had a higher
God over him, a stronger
God than him. Jesus didn't
say "Your God". He said
"our God" which includes
Jesus as the creation of
GOD.
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If Jesus was
GOD, then why in John
20:17 did Jesus say, "I
ascend to my God and
your God? This tells us
that we and Jesus have a
common GOD.
Muslim: If Jesus was
GOD, then why in John
14:28 did Jesus say, "My
Father (GOD) is greater
than I"?
www.nairaland.com/1939388/man-trinity-god-trinity-created#26990237
Christianity Etc › Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by winner01(m): 6:54pm On Oct 22, 2014
Christianity Etc › Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by winner01(m): 6:39pm On Oct 22, 2014
haffaze777:
By Femi Aribisala
The word “Trinity” can be found nowhere in the
Bible. It is completely incongruous with scriptural
understanding of God. God is not three persons. There
is only one God and it is the Father. Jesus says:
“salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22). Salvation is
neither of the Romans nor of the Italians. The Trinity is
an unscriptural concept, smuggled into Christendom
under Roman Constantine by cloak-and-dagger means.
Precepts of men
Jesus says to God: “Your word is truth.” (John
17:17). But the doctrine of the Trinity is a lie. Here is
the lie: “There are three that bear witness in heaven:
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these
three are one.” (I John 5:7).
This so-called scripture is counterfeit. It is non-existent
in the original versions of the Bible. It was smuggled
into the Bible by Trinitari-ans. Today, you will only
find it in the King James editions. The very fact that
Trinitarians found it necessary to smuggle I John 5:7
into the Bible in order to validate the doctrine of the
Trinity shows conclusively that the doctrine is fake.
The cardinal principle of God is simple and
straightforward. Here it is in a nutshell: “Hear, O
Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.” (Deuteronomy
6:4). This is validated by Jesus himself. (Mark 12:29).
Therefore, hear O Christians, the Lord our God is not a
Trinity. The Lord our God is one. Jesus berated the
Pharisees for teaching as doctrines the precepts of
men. (Matt-hew 15:9). Many churches have fallen into
the same error with the Trinity fallacy.
Family of God
John says: “No man has seen God at any time.” (John
1:18). But men have seen Jesus. Therefore, the
expression “God” refers exclusively to God the
Father. Jesus never refers to himself as God; he reserves
that terminology solely for the Father. When someone
called him “Good Teacher,” Jesus replied: “Why do you
call Me good? No one is good but One, that is,
God.” (Matthew 19: 17).
Jesus never says God is a Trinity. Instead, he reveals
God is a family. The head of this family is the
Father. God’s household include Jesus; God’s sons and
servants; and angels. That is more than a trinity. The
man-made concept of the Trinity makes God an
exclusive triumvirate, limited to “the Godhead. ”
However, the Christ-revealed portrait of God makes
God an inclusive and growing family, open to all
believers. Jesus said to God: “I will declare your name
to my brothers.” (Psalm 22: 22). Jesus is: “the firstborn
among many brothers.” (Romans 8:29). Believers are
the brothers of Jesus. But we are not the brothers of
God. God is our Father.
Sons of God
Jesus only claims to be “the only begotten Son of
God.” (John 3:18). Indeed, he drew a distinction
between God and himself. He said to God: “This is
eternal life, that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE
GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” (John
17:3). When they accused him of blasphemy saying:
“You, being a man, make yourself God,” Jesus replied:
“I said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” (John 10:36).
When Peter said to Jesus: “You are the Christ, the Son
of the living God,” Jesus confirmed this was a God-
given revelation. He replied: “Blessed are you, Simon
Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to
you, but My Father who is in heaven.” (Matthew
16:15-17).
This divine affirmation was repeated during Jesus’
baptism (Matthew 3:17); and on the Mount of
Transfiguration. (Matthew 17:5). There can be no
higher validation than these. John says: “If we receive
the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for
this is the witness of God which He has testified of His
Son.” (I John 5:9). Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the
living God.
Jesus existed “before the foundation of the
world.” (John 17:24). Then he became a man. (John
1:14). But God does not change. (Malachi 3:6). Jesus is
a man. (John 8:40). But God is not a man (Numbers
23:19). Jesus died. But God cannot die. Jesus died but
God raised him from the dead.
Jesus calls himself “the beginning of the creation of
God.” (Revelation 3:14). God confirms this, declaring to
Jesus: “You are My Son, today I have begotten
You.” (Psalm 2:7). But the Father himself is not
begotten. He has no beginning but is from
everlasting. The psalmist declares: “Even from
everlasting to everlasting, You are God.” (Psalm 90:2).
Jesus has a Father. But God has no Father. Jesus has a
God. But there is no other God but God. Jesus says to
Mary: “I am ascending to My Father and your Father,
and to My God and your God.” (John 20:17). However,
it should be understood that the son of a lion is a
lion. Therefore, Jesus, the son of God is a God. God the
Father calls Jesus God, confirming his divinity.
He says to Jesus: “Your throne, O God, is forever and
ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your
kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil
of gladness more than Your companions.” (Psalm
45:6-7).
Jesus explained to the Jews that in the scriptures:
“(God) called them gods, to whom the word of God
came.” (John 10:35). Indeed, God calls his sons
gods. He says: “You are gods, and all of you are
children of the Most High. But you shall die like
men,” (Psalm 82:6-7).
He also says to his servant, Moses: “I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh.” (Exodus 7: 1). Moses himself declares
to the Israelites: “The LORD your God is God of gods
and Lord of lords.” (Deuteronomy 10:17). Paul
summarises it thus: “Even if there are so-called gods,
whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods
and many lords), yet for us there is one God, the
Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and
one Lord Jesus Christ.” (I Corinthians 8:5-6).
In short, God is not Father, Son and Holy Ghost. There
is only one God and it is the Father. There is only one
Lord and it is Jesus. As a man cannot be differentiated
from his spirit, so God cannot be differentiated from his
spirit. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God.
God has no equals
The word “Christ” is not Jesus’ surname. It means “the
Anointed One.” But the anointed must be subordinate
to the anointer. Nowhere in the scriptures is it ever said
or implied that God is anointed. However, Luke says:
“God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit
and with power.” (Acts 10: 38).
The Jews accused Jesus of making himself equal with
God. (John 5:18). But Jesus never makes such claims.
Instead he says: “My Father is greater than I.” (John
14:28). Jesus submitted totally to God. At Gethsemane,
he said to him: “Not My will, but Yours, be do-
ne.” (Luke 22:42).
At-one-ment with God
Nevertheless, Jesus declares: “I and My Father are
one.” (John 10:30). However, the sense in which he
makes this declaration is qualified. Jesus only does the
will of the Father. (John 6:38). He only speaks the
words of the Father. (John 14: 10). The works he does
are the works of the Father.
That is the true atonement, ensuring that he who sees
Jesus sees the Father. (John 14:9). Jesus prescribes the
same atonement for us. He says to God: “I gave them
the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one,
just as you and I are one: I in them and you in me, so
that they may be completely one.” (John 17:22-23).
www.nairaland.com/1939388/man-trinity-god-trinity-created#26990237
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God And What Is God? by winner01(m): 6:35pm On Oct 22, 2014
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thankgodegbedi:
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Health › Re: No Bra Day (october 13) by winner01(m): 2:20pm On Oct 16, 2014
Yewandequeen:
are you intimidated?
lol
Health › Re: No Bra Day (october 13) by winner01(m): 8:43pm On Oct 13, 2014
Yewandequeen:
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now you got me cracking my ribs


rolling on the floor laughing my bossom off without bra
girls be tormenting guys with big boobs since 1st oct 1960
Health › Re: No Bra Day (october 13) by winner01(m): 8:31pm On Oct 13, 2014
Yewandequeen:
I dare not try this#
haba not with this big bossom of mine
would have tried this had it been it was when I was in jss1

I dare not go out without bra except if I want pple to commit for it will be point forward like flag of Nigeria.

#u don't wanna c
try me bae
Health › Re: No Bra Day (october 13) by winner01(m): 8:26pm On Oct 13, 2014
Annypie:
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Health › Re: No Bra Day (october 13) by winner01(m): 8:22pm On Oct 13, 2014
MissyDivah:
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Christianity Etc › Re: Witnesses Of The Trinity by winner01(m): 3:07pm On Oct 09, 2014
abubello:
From your diagram you yourself claim the three are not the same yet you claim they are still one! Do you honestly think you are making sense here?

Moreover, are all the earlier prophets aware of the concept of trinity or did the concept start with Jesus, in other words are you saying that God almighty has been three in one all along or he was one and suddenly become three during the time of Jesus?

Can you tell us what Abraham , David, Moses etc said about Trinity or they were not aware othe concept?
God created us, we did not create him...and therefore its very difficult to fully tell what he(our creator) is and what he is not
Right from everlasting, the concept of the trinity has been settled....this link might answer your questions. www.nairaland.com/1939388/man-trinity-god-trinity-created

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