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felixomor:
My brother, honestly u deserve an award for ur questions on this thread.

Just See how they kept dodging the questions, beating around the bush like say tomorrow no dey.

I just have to commend u on this one.

Ranchhoddas would be an atheist if not for reason.

hopefulLandlord:
I never cried

it shows you "cry"

so if I become a Christian, would you stop crying?

lol, why do you love evading questions

hopefulLandlord:
I've given you my answer, we are here to expose the foolishness of depending on an imaginary friend

if in our bid to do that you become atheist/Hindu/Muslim/pagan, that's your own cup of coffee

If I become an atheist, would you stop crying?

ifenes:
His reply implies only his god can give joy and happiness. That made me laugh. Why are the christian crusade and activities full of poor,sad and unhappy people? You wanna know the numbers of prayer request a church like MFM receives a day? Joy and happiness indeed

ifenes:
Religion is the twin brother of poverty

hopefulLandlord:
exactly but even those other people at mFM and Chosen etc claim they have peace and overflowing joy, it sounds like a cliché they use to feel better about their delusions

So do you want us to become atheists? I dont really have your time. Just answer my question.

hahn:
Why is it that, despite being prayerful nations, religious countries are poor?

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/religious-poor-nations.png

Does religion and prayer mean the same to you?

Do you even understand the graph you posted?
Are the less religious countries atheistic?

hopefulLandlord:
read my comment again, slowly this time, "imaginary friends" isn't restricted to Christianity

But you are restricted to christianity

Plus what do you mean by imaginary friends?

4everGod:
And you as uninformed and as unintelligent as Newton you are makes correct assertions? You are a comedian.

A real one

4everGod:
So you do not care what he becomes. All you care about is that he quit from Christianity...anything but Christianity and that would be alright for you. Lmao

So your words are just being released erratically with no definite aim. May I ask you what these same words have made you into?

Lol, He does care. Its not like he will give you a reasonable reason for doing what he is doing

hopefulLandlord:
maybe you should read your own links first
an excerpt
"What was immoral in the Old Testament is still immoral in the New."
so?
its safe to say you should follow all the laws of the old testament too from top to bottom

Should we still follow mosaic laws if they were also addressed in the new testament?
Homosexuality is consistently condemned throughout the Bible, how can you not see this?
You need to try to read the Bible, its will save you from this shameful display.

raphieMontella:
no o!
Science will..not me!

Okay, like it made the greatest minds in the world atheists?

hopefulLandlord:
we are just here to poke holes in the idea of depending on imaginary friends

Are you sure?

raphieMontella:
lol
i'm saying...that newton made a statement doesnt mean he is correct

Kuku say that Newton was not a real scientist.

raphieMontella:
sure t'wud take time to die out..because of the great constantine and great rome which you condemn instead of thank..
Dont forget jesus's sermon on the mount..the law(mosiac) is binding according to yeshua

How do you know all this things?
You seem so sure

Prof.!

hopefulLandlord:
its obvious she watches porn

It is not obvious. She made a reasonable point.

hopefulLandlord:
does that new covenant forbid homosexuality? where in the new testament is that?

I remember ive mentioned here several new testament verses that condemn homosexuality.

You need to atleast read a book you attack so much.

Click Here, you might find something useful.

hopefulLandlord:
its hilarious isn't it?
they just twist it to fit the laws of the land by explaining it away
they might say, god "permitted" it then but now its a sin

raphieMontella:
u know i speak the truth...
The worse is even the hebrews..in those days
They were with god directlyy...like wtf?

Ok!, lets cut short the long story. What do you want me to do? Do you want me to be an atheist?

hopefulLandlord:
nah, its you guys that chose whatever laws to follow

I wouldn't remove it but I'm sure, several threads would be opened by Christian apologists in the future defending homosexuality, using words like "out of context" "mosaic law" "just laws of the land at the time"

bible to be wrong? lol, you must love the sound of your own voice

Is the mosaic law also in the new testament?

Have you heard of the new convenant?

Have you ever read the Bible?

If the Bible was wrong, it would have died 500 years ago of constant poking and ridiculing. It will be smiling at your great grandchildren in the next 500 years.

raphieMontella:
christian morals will keep on evolving...no doubt..and they'd still claim its this same ''holy spirit'' who doesnt change thats still telling them that its no longer sinful..
In those days..polygamy was okay..no problemo with it...
Marriage of minors was okay...
But the holy spirit was with them
Now? No..
This same holy spirit is still with them..
Aint this folly?

Ehyaa...
Sorry..

raphieMontella:
thats your concern o by trying to isolate the catholics
They are christians..simple

apply it to modern day science vs scientific word of a creator(holy books)
if the bible is the word of god...and we are told something about science in your book..bt later on science comes and discovers the real truth..
What do we do?
Acknowledge our own findings ? Or dwell on what a ''book/words'' of a supposed creator told us?
If we follow our own knowledge are we not defying that command of this deity?
E.g the creation story..(thats just a tip of the iceberg)

i doubt if you'd see it on an atheist site...but u'd see it on a christian site...it's targeted at kids....i knew this verse since i was young
..

What is the meaning of scientific word of a creator?

When the the Bible become a science textbook?

Are you really a free thinker or just thinking the thoughts of atheist high priests?

Why not be objective?

hopefulLandlord:
like I said, explain it all away

we'll see what happens when homosexuality becomes acceptable in Nigeria

hopefully, we'll still be alive by then

when it does, you and I would see with our own eyes

there's a "ready made" explaining away when polygamy becomes acceptable in the US for instance

its pretty obvious "Christians" just chose whichever laws is easy

You just say thinks to feel good. Its understandable.

I think it would be better if you just remove the verse of the Bible that condemns homosexuality. You really want the Bible to be wrong. I get. Keep at it.
God still loves you though.

AnonyNymous:

smh

4everGod:
Really? Do you know where Religion would be 200 yrs from now? More experienced people have already done that research on your behalf so make an informed attempt to look it up.

Your words and theories are simply hollow.

Atheists are so unimformed and proud about it.
smh'

hopefulLandlord:
"on my behalf"?
we all know what those "informed attempts" would be explaining away and choosing even lesser old testament laws to follow, I'm sure only tithes and offering would remain, call it hollow all you like, we are already seeing the signs in today's world, lots of Christians in the 90s consider females wearing trousers to be a sin, now its acceptable
homosexuality is now acceptable in almost all of Christianity in the united states; they explain it away the way they like
watch this space, only tight and offering would remain, and we all know the reason for that

Some people will make this same comment in the next 100 years

hopefulLandlord:
wearing of trousers by females

now you see most "Christians" explain away that portion that seems to forbid such by saying "guys we've been reading it out of context all these while"

in case of eating shellfish? (I can't remember the animal right now)

in the case of homosexuality when you hear "we are no longer under old testament" or "Sodom got destroyed for their "sins" and not for their homosexuality"

I actually see a future where almost all "Christians" disregard old testament totally

we have already seen such here, Christians just pick whichever of the laws is easy to follow and explain away the ones that are difficult to follow

1. Wearing of trouser - Ill like you to point out to me in the Bible where trouser is meant for men and not robes.
Culture has a way of mixing with faith, dont be shallow.

2. Shellfish - Check this thread, i've tackled it there, thanks:
https://www.nairaland.com/3313223/reason-change-meanings-scriptures

3. Homosexuality- Remains a sin unto God, however if man repents of his evil ways, he will find forgiveness. We have countless cases of people who have repented from homosexuality.

4. You cant see the future, Faith is the eye to see the unseen.

5. God's word stands sure forever and ever.

HCpaul:
Newton was ignorant of that fact and needed to be corrected.

I'm yet to see an atheist call Newton a real scientist.
You people are good comedians.

hopefulLandlord:
I'm not here for "if"

its illegal, end of

tell me about evolving morality and its visible effects on Christianity

Certain things acceptable in Christianity today wasn't many years ago

I'm sure of we can go 100 years to the future, you'll see "Christians" of that era do things people like you would consider "immoral"

Whenever you say the world Christ-ianity, never forget the word Christ, the Lord of all.

I see you wish to change the argument, So what is immoral that christ allowed. Christ is our standard not society. Can you give examples of these immoralities?

HCpaul:
I have no passion for that. I will rather be interested in living on Mars and leave you people here on earth in isolation.

When we leave earth for you in order to dominate Mars, Jesus will come and rapture will take place cuz we ain't taking you along.

Lol.
So atheists are leaving ehyaa ...
I think 4everGod would have laughed at your reply.

Secular humanism at its best.

hopefulLandlord:
like I said, think deeper for a better example

its illegal to expose a kid to strippers

and as we already know evolving morality and its effect on so called "Christians"

Illegal by whom, you?
Other humans in places of power?

If society accepted it as moral, would you do it?.

Im feeling this your mental gymnastics.

felixomor:
Lol,

Broad day light hijacking!

lol
I tire for am

raphieMontella:
even the great albert einstein was wrong about some stuffs...
Who's now newton?

Newton and Einstein
Is there even any need for this.

raphieMontella:
false? Galileo?
Ring any bells?
Even faraday sef..they tried discouraging them
bible verse prov 3:5

Galileo was a christian who was killed by the catholic, many other christians were also killed by the catholic. William tyndale was killed for translating the Bible to english. The spanish inquisition, crusades, witchcraft burnings was masterminded by the catholic. We are aware of all the evils the catholic has committed.

I am not getting your point.

And when did:
"Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight.…" Proverbs 3:5


Become:

"Do not engage in the understanding of your world, for God will be angry with you and you will be killed by the catholic church."


Go and check other atheist website fir the verse, the website that gave you this verse is terrible. lol



You know why those scientists wanted to get answers for humanity, The needed answers for the earth, living organisms, etc.

"But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you; And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you. "Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you; And let the fish of the sea declare to you. "Who among all these does not know That the hand of the LORD has done this,…" Job 12:7-9

There are still a lot of things the universe needs to teach us my friend, our learning is constant.

4everGod:
Brother letd go to bed. Maybe when we wake up in the morning there will be something worth responding to

Good idea bro.

hopefulLandlord:
what is this one saying?

Let us in on the inferences you will make.

Im simply emphasizing the nonsense you started.

Read my replies, you'll understand.

raphieMontella:
Lol
they were scientists who refused to dwell on the knowledge of their ancestors passed on in books claiming to be knowledge of a creator and used their brains

Still atheist garbage.
Little wonder Isaac Newton thought atheism was senseless.

hopefulLandlord:
like I said, small children aren't allowed into strip clubs

aren't you capable of thinking deeper and giving a better example?

You can invite strippers to your home. The point is just expose them to both sides and make your inferences, let us in too.


As for me, I will train up my child in the way he SHOULD go, not the way he wants to go.
You can learn from me, its free

raphieMontella:
religion at that time usually supressed scientific knowledge...terming it ''hearsay'' and tools of the ''devil''
theres a bible verse o...which says we shouldnt
but im saying if they had kept on believing what was passed on in ''holy books'' as truth of the world...they wouldnt !

This things are garbage you've heard from atheists high pruests and websites. They are not true. I dont really have time tonight, I would have floored this nonsense.

What is the Bible verse?