Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:10pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
hahn: See as you talk am like say you make point. Lol
Like he is an Adeboye who goes around preaching and extorting "believers"  The believers came to your house to complain?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:09pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
hahn: God does not exist outside religion. God is a product of religion.  Is there any proof of this Nonsense you spew over and over again?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:06pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
hahn: Lol. You mean the same way atheists give you headache? 
You mean you still haven't understood what the word "atheist" means?  Naah. You and your people call it different things. HcPaul calls it sanity, AgentofAllah calls it an admission of apathy towards God, others call it science, reasoning, logic, rationality, rejection of dogma etc Just to delude yourselves.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:04pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: Exactly, you see how silly the reasoning is. It's like saying Joshthefirst is a disease, cos he spends time curing them  Hey, do you know why atheists rarely talk about Nietzche? 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:00pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: You can share your beliefs, but this isn't Sunday School. The truth is Christian threads rarely generate interest - and you know why. why? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 9:59pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 9:57pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: His own exists. I have proof.
It's in his mind.  This man has a message for you, you should listen to him.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 9:55pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: Like you're an atheist cos u spend time talking about atheism.  I spend time tailking against atheists cos they wont allow me to share my beliefs peacefully on a religion section. I have no buisness with them on a normal day, but not when they think they can invade harmless religious threads and spew pseudointellectual crap. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 9:54pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
hahn: When I say god doesn't exist. I mean ALL the gods. Including yours 
You say YOUR god is real but ALL other religions disagree. You first have to argue with your fellow theists that subscribe to the other 4200 gods and who also agree that YOUR god is fake. My stance is that they are ALL fake
You believe in only ONE god. I believe in none. Nothing you can write will prove YOUR god's existence because many people will disagree.
This your post is full of wishful thinking. So, even if god is not real, you need the psychological cushion that the "belief" brings.
Still doesn't make it real Check out your last 5 threads on God, you'll see which One gives you the most head and heartache |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 9:43pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
hahn: Which god are we talking about here?  The One you spend your whole life talking about. |
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Christianity Etc › Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 9:30pm On Aug 31, 2016*. Modified: 9:51pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
The sad concept of an atheistic universe is well captured by a simple Indian folk tale. “There is an old Indian folk tale about a young man who set off to explore a nearby river on a raft. All was going well as he paddled along until he suddenly heard the distant roar of water. Squinting into the distance, he noticed that the river had a rather disturbing, absence-of-horizon look to it: there was a huge waterfall ahead! Frantically he began trying to paddle to one bank of the river, then the other, but each time the current was too strong. He cried for help, but there was nobody to hear him. Finally, he tried paddling upstream and discovered that he could just about hold the raft still, but couldn’t make any progress away from the waterfall. So what should he do? How long until his strength gave out and drifted to his doom? After contemplating this for a few minutes, he came to a decision. He threw his paddle into the river and lay back on the raft, his hands behind his head and a peaceful smile on his face; after all, he had decided, I might as well enjoy my final ride.”Packed into this little tale is a surprising amount. What struck me first was that no matter how much the Indian man cried out for help “there was nobody to hear him.” This reminds me of the atheist Michael Shermer who, in his book, shares a personal experience from when his college girlfriend was in a car accident that paralyzed her for life. In a moment of fear, Shermer prayed that God would heal the girl but when his prayer went unanswered he turned his back on Christian belief. But, on atheism, that is simply brutal reality, as one atheist saw when he penned that “some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice”. What happens, just happens. A car crash leaving a girlfriend paralyzed for life is simply an unimportant collision of atoms. And no matter how much our hearts and mind tell us to protest against that fact it means nothing, just as a collision between two asteroids means nothing; as the atheist William Provine concluded: “The universe cares nothing for us and we have no ultimate meaning in life”.If atheism is true no matter how much we beg for a miracle, for a sign, for anything, there is no God on the other end of the line to hear us. We are trapped on a rock that is no more than “a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam”. If atheism is true no matter how much we paddle upstream against the bite of existential nihilism our arms will eventually give way and we’ll plummet down the waterfall of existential despair. If God does not exist it just doesn’t matter how hard we try to paddle to one bank of the river in order to avoid the implications, as the atheist existentialist Sartre saw when dispelling God: “If God does not exist… man is in consequence forlorn, for he cannot find anything to depend upon, either within or outside himself”. But our Indian friend came to a decision. He knew that he could not avoid the inevitable. He was going to die, he knew it, and decided to live his brief moment in time smiling at the cloudy sky as a merciless waterfall pulls him closer and closer. After all, he knew these implications, and he chose to dupe himself into a brief illusory happiness, lest he dwells his few moments in despair. Richard Dawkins would write: “Presumably there is indeed no purpose in the ultimate fate of the cosmos, but do any of us really tie our life’s hopes to the ultimate fate of the cosmos anyway?” For Dawkins (and our Indian friend) it is best to pretend that we have meaning, value and purpose, even though he knows, deep down, that there is “nothing but blind, pitiless indifference”. If atheism is true we are all this Indian on the raft. What awaits us, our civilisation, our race, our planet, indeed the universe as a whole, is destruction and extinction, no matter what we do. Philosopher William Lane Craig puts it: “If there is no God, then man and the universe are doomed. Like prisoners condemned to death, we await our unavoidable execution… If God does not exist, then life is futile”. https://jamesbishopblog./2016/06/30/atheisms-universe-and-a-little-indian-parable/
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did The Vatican Remove 14 Books From The Bible In 1684? by winner01(m): 9:16pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
opeaceo: No, honestly, I don't Know. But it doesn't make sense. Death of the Sun?? Is the sun dead? That guy is enchanted. Discuss with him at your own peril. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did The Vatican Remove 14 Books From The Bible In 1684? by winner01(m): 8:30pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Please I Need Help, Which Way Should I Follow? Am Confused. by winner01(m): 8:26pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
farouk0403: Please I need help, I am confused what should I do?
Let me start by introducing my self, My name is farouk and I am a muslim, I came from a family that gave zero tolerance to religion, specifically my dad he doesn't care about religion in fact he didn't give us proper orientation about islam. Thank God to my mom she is a religious person because she came from a well known religious family but she end up marrying a man that has non Islam background,he just answer his name as a Muslim but he hardly put it into practice he doesn't follow congregation prayer, always condemning Muslims.
I love my dad and my mom so much , I can't even describe it in words how I love them. But the religion issue in my family is my big problem and threat that am facing.
my thought about my religion? yes I love my religion, I knew that the religion is already deep down inside me, I only need someone to help me found the religion that is in me, I have little knowledge about it, I also feel sick and detest it when someone insult my religion but thank God I have self control.
How I wish I was born in a religious family, how I wish I have a religious friends, how I wish I grew up in a religious community, how I wish...... If you are on facebook, search for david wood. Read through his time line, im sure you will find something important. You can pm me too. God bless you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 2:49pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
ishiamu: just re-read my post and didn't see where I mentioned religion... are u a dunce? Naah bro, dont get too worked up. Ifenes will be too stup1d to report me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 12:36pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 11:09am On Aug 31, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 11:05am On Aug 31, 2016 |
ifenes: When I'm miserable maybe. I have a copy of many crazy things you said.
I have them all sent to icloud. I have a huge memory space. I will buy more if needed. You want me to stop attacking atheists  Why not just come out clean  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 11:03am On Aug 31, 2016 |
ifenes: Do you remember your post? You had your alt account winner01 liking the silly things you said that day. Oya tell me what you smoked this early morning 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 10:59am On Aug 31, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 10:54am On Aug 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: I don't have O but people that Do would understand Go back and learn from ifenes. I no get your time this morning. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 10:33am On Aug 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:
am coming This is the pattern m talking about OK. And this proves winner01 is truthman2012  You get brain so  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Should Stop Fighting Religion Now! VERY Important by winner01(m): 10:16am On Aug 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: Check Ur stupid pic again Church no be human being Please, can you not quote me again. Look at the pic over and over till it makes sense to you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 10:14am On Aug 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: Shut up it's U. Why? Cause it's the same pattern "Atheism" "Islam" "Muslim" Countless Pain would do you more harm kid. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Should Stop Fighting Religion Now! VERY Important by winner01(m): 10:07am On Aug 31, 2016 |
AmberSweet: Yes, because living a life with facts, statistics, and social awareness is just soooo false. Ignorant child. You meant lies lies and more lies. I saw this popular atheist meme for example. turned out to be a lie.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by winner01(m): 9:54am On Aug 31, 2016 |
ifenes: Just for you to know, truthman2012 is also winner01. He can deny it but it is the truth. He stopped using that account because he is under terrorist watch. I have evidence if you want it. Why u mentioning me? Before you said winner01 was ifenes, now he is truthman2012, maybe he will be hopefulLandlord tomorrow.  great. You try. Just Relax, i dont have your time yet. Ill be back with those threads you like very soon.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Should Stop Fighting Religion Now! VERY Important by winner01(m): 9:58pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
Reverse psychology  You people must think believers are idiots. You've not seen "resolute" yet 
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Christianity Etc › Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(op): 10:28pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
Anas09: Yes, his threads are about Athism to help athiests talk about Athiesm. They were refused a section, they are left stranded so are here with nothing to say. They spend every minute of their lives here talking about a none existent God. They hardly open atheists threads, so, Winner01 is here giving them something to talkabout. You shd thank him, not harangue him.
Weldone Winner01, good job. Dont give heed to these people, Life is tough for the Blind and derf. Abi. Thank you Jare my sister. God bless you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(op): 10:22pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: Isn't it pathetic lol. The op, in his argument (which is full of fallacies) is slightly able to put something forward for deism, and then later on, twists that to suit Christianity. For relevance, he goes to every single thread to comment a single emoji when his threads are dying out so they can be moved back to the first page of this board for his followers to see and massage his ego, smiling from ear to ear about how right they are. Ok Sir. Its unfortunate you cant do anything about it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(op): 10:19pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
youngestland: intelligent designer lol
6.2 magnitude of earthquake in italy killing lives and destroying properties.
intelligent design cannot create something without following laws of nature this means nature is bigger than him because everything happen naturally and nothing supernatural you dont create somthing and put it inside a place that will destroy it
christians say god created the sun and earth right this means god determines the component that will make the sun, why dint he create the sun without radiation, in doing so he wont have to put a magnetic field around the earth that is tearing out ,
he would have said let there be earth without earthquakes tornados volcanoes etc but no the earth has natural disasters because it was formed by a process and with time these disasters will show up this is because no intelligent designer knows the right components to form a peaceful earth, nature just took its cause And so because you dont know the reasons for these things, God does not exist?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Christ Hating Atheist/writer For Atheist Website To Christ Follower by winner01(op): 10:00pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: I came back here to leave a comment. It's sad that you crawled, to pick this up and outline parts, just to suite/justify your own beliefs. I was intrigued by his story, and luckily for me, I have a friend schooling in Iowa who was able to get his contacts for me. I spoke to the guy(Darrin), and he is a very nice guy. I now understand his reasons, his explanations and we had very civil discussions on the topic of religion. He still strongly dislikes the Protestant churches for the same reasons most atheists on Nairaland are repulsed by religion. My advice to agnostics and atheists on Nairaland is not to waste your time here with these childish people and actually spend more time engaging your mind in productive discussions. Let them wallow in their ignorance. hehehehehe Why not open a new thread to share this advise with your brothers.  |