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Christianity Etc › Re: Professor Of N.T,craig Keener, Explains His Journey From Atheism To Christianity by winner01(op): 8:58pm On Sep 11, 2016

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Christianity Etc › Professor Of N.T,craig Keener, Explains His Journey From Atheism To Christianity by winner01(op): 8:51pm On Sep 11, 2016

Craig Keener is a professor of New Testament at Asbury Theological Seminary. He received his Ph.D. in New Testament Studies and Christian Origins from Duke University. Prior to Asbury Theological Seminary, he was professor of New Testament at Palmer Theological Seminary
of Eastern University for nearly 15 years, where he was also one of the associate pastors at an African-American Baptist
church in Philadelphia. He has authored a number of commentaries on New Testament books as well as books covering a range of topics on Jesus, Paul, miracle investigations, and the African-American church.

Please understand that I recognize that every Christian’s experience of coming to Christ is different. I am simply recounting my own story. By the age of nine I was openly
asserting that I was an atheist. Although I thought I had sound philosophic reasons for my view, I did not disrespect all religions (and especially enjoyed studying ancient Greek and Egyptian ones), if I believed that those who followed them had some genuine reasons for their belief. Yet it seemed to me that of all the religions of which I was aware,
only Christians did not take their faith very seriously (a perspective I unfortunately extrapolated based on the assumption that most Americans were Christians); I reasoned
that if one really believed that there was a God, one would give God everything one was and everything one had.

I thought that atheism was “smart.” When my grandmother argued for a first cause, I replied by postulating an infinite regression of causes (my arrogance left me unaware that my response violated modern physics!) Yet unknown to me, my father’s mother, sister, and the sister’s family were praying
for our family. When I was 13, reading Plato raised for me the question of life after death, but Plato’s answers did not seem adequate. I began to realize that only an infinite Being
could guarantee the hope of eternal life. Yet if such a Being existed, there seemed no reason why that Being would care about me, even if that Being were perfectly loving enough to give life to some. I was incurably selfish and undeserving of a loving Being’s attention; it seemed to me that if I pretended to love, it was only for the self-serving purpose of getting that Being’s attention. Yet shortly before I turned 15, I began to secretly cry out, “God, if You are there—please show me.” Months passed with no resolution.

Eventually, one day when I was walking home from school, a couple students from a fundamentalist Bible college cornered me and asked me if I knew where I would go when I died. I argued with them for 45 minutes, as they tried to explain about Jesus’ death and resurrection bringing salvation, something that made no sense to me. Finally I hit them with what I thought was the ultimate question: “If there’s a God, where did the dinosaur bones come from?” If one asks a
stupid question, one usually gets a stupid answer. They replied that the devil put them there. I was so annoyed that I started to walk off, and they warned me that if I kept
hardening my heart against God, I would end up in hell.

Although I tried to shake off their words, I found myself terrified the entire way home. Despite their weakness in paleontology (i.e., the nonsense about the devil planting
dinosaur bones), they had spoken to me truth about Jesus. I had wanted God to give me empirical evidence, but instead God confronted me with the reality of God’s own presence. I had studied various religions and philosophies in the encyclopedia, but what I was experiencing now was on a completely different level. As I got to my room, I was so
overwhelmed by God’s presence and the demand it made on my life that I felt only two options—I had to either accept or
reject the demand of my Creator, and God was not going to let me alone until I did one or the other.

My knees buckled out from under me, and I cried out, “God, I don’t understand how Jesus dying and rising from the dead can save me—but if that’s what You are saying, I’ll believe it. But God—I don’t know how to be ‘saved.’ So if You want to save me, You’re going to have to do it Yourself.” Suddenly
I felt something rushing through my body like I had never felt before. Indeed, it frightened me! I did not understand what
had just happened, but I knew that God was real and that I must now give God everything I was and everything I had.

That was the beginning of my Christian life, more than 30 years ago. Two days later I walked into a church and the pastor asked if I was sure I was truly “saved.” Since I was
not sure about whether or not I had accepted Christ “properly,” I prayed again, this time led by the pastor.
Afterward I was overwhelmed with the awesome majesty of God again, but this time I was not afraid. God was so awesome that I knew that I could not praise God enough
unless the Spirit of God gave me the words to do it. It began to come out in a sort of language I did not know; I had never
heard of this experience before, but it was wonderful.

Over the next couple years, I led about fifty other people to Christ, including one of my younger brothers. Knowing the anguish of my own prior despair without hope in God, I was consumed with passion to reach others for Christ. Passion to serve God, who intervened to draw me to a new life and hope
at a time when I had no eternal hope, has continued to motivate me in the subsequent years of ministry in the church, as a teacher of pastors and teachers, and as a Christian writer.

Source: James Bishops blog .

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Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by winner01(m): 8:29pm On Sep 11, 2016

plaetton:
Lol@ these people.

@Op.
It's natural for you to lash out at people, mentally sovereign people, whose worldviews renders yours completely null and void.

We feel your pain.

Just what are these "superior" worldviews?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Arrested In Anambra With Twelve Stolen Children by winner01(m): 1:54pm On Sep 11, 2016

kaen1317:
I don't understand pastor's nowadays, always on the news for all the wrong things

By news, you mean nairaland. They report almost nothing good about christianity.

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Christianity Etc › Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(op): 9:34am On Sep 11, 2016

Strawman:
https://i.imgflip.com/g3qd1.jpg

Ah, just happened to spot this nice thread winner01. So much logic, so much truthfulness! Some will still read and prefer to deny/ignore it here while their conscience/insecurity heavily disturbs them in private.

Forgive me for the mentions I have missed so far. I think my NL break's been long enough already. You just reminded me of a certain ~~dolt~~ misguided soul I'd left hanging since

lol

Christianity Etc › Re: The Secret Of Christianity--- Part One- Just Like Sports Betting. by winner01(m): 6:48pm On Sep 10, 2016

lepasharon:
Lol. Is that all you can say?

Its not all I can say, its my prayer for him.
He does not disbelieve in the existence of God, He is fighting God and cant control it. He opened a thread earlier advising atheists to stop fighting religion but he has been doing what he advised against ever since. It proves he cant control it. Pain and Hatred are the motivations for most atheists. Look at the comment from a pained atheist on the picture below. So its not what I want to say, obviously all he's written is hogwash and it takes me nothing to dismantle it. Its my prayer for his soul.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert From Atheism. by winner01(m): 6:16pm On Sep 10, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Yeah it has . I'm great bro . What about you ?

I'm doing good. Been here and there. I've been seeing some threads full of falsehood but I've not had the time to address them. Hustle wahala grin

Christianity Etc › Re: The Secret Of Christianity--- Part One- Just Like Sports Betting. by winner01(m): 6:05pm On Sep 10, 2016

May God have mercy on your soul.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert From Atheism. by winner01(m): 6:03pm On Sep 10, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:

Been a while bro, how are you?.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert From Atheism. by winner01(m): 5:59pm On Sep 10, 2016

Krystale:
Is that so, the 'satan' you guys created huh?
well ive been in the astral, through half lucid dream and i know its not just a dream, ive been there through OBE but i left there immediately because of fire and i tell you its exactly what they say it is, ive had another obe where i found myself floating to the ceiling but out of fear again i forced myself back to my body. If its the devil made that, why God allow him take me to those places

Be careful, Seun might advise you to take some anti-malaria drugs.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What If Zuckerberg Were A Nigerian Atheist? by winner01(m): 11:59pm On Sep 06, 2016

shuggah:
Christian and Muslim activities on Nairaland is nt up to one tenth of hw people use facebook as a tool for evangelism, both christians and Muslims alike, churches and Muslim groups too, hw many churches associate with Nairaland?? mark Zuckerberg went to meet with the Pope nd made donations too, did u hear that he started an argument or disregard the Pope since he doesn't believe in God, give seun half of that chance ND watch him fluke it, when Nairaland was at it's birth stage, why didn't Seun start bashing theists and insulting God as he does now, why wait till it's fully grown. He is psychic.

Great post bro.
To compare mark zuckerberg with any of these guys is a joke.
These people dont go about mocking and dehumanizing people, they impact lives.
E just be like say make seun go meet Baba Adeboye and donate to Redeem, its almost impossible cos of the level of contempt for christianity.
That contempt I believe does not exist in Zuckerberg.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What If Zuckerberg Were A Nigerian Atheist? by winner01(m): 11:49pm On Sep 06, 2016

majekdom2:
A forum that allows atheists topics and comments on religion section. Is he making atheism a religion now??

Seun, how do you respond to this?

Christianity Etc › Re: What If Zuckerberg Were A Nigerian Atheist? by winner01(m): 11:43pm On Sep 06, 2016

PastorAIO:
Na wa for the small minded ness of my 9ja peoples. So you mean to say that zuckerberg is the standard for how ATheists should behave in your mind.

This should have been your first comment on this thread in reference to the oP.
Such bias. smh.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What If Zuckerberg Were A Nigerian Atheist? by winner01(m): 11:39pm On Sep 06, 2016

majekdom2:
This is where you got I wrong. Nairaland is not just visited by Nigerians, it's a global forum. The things seun say are keenly observed. Just as we dont hear some personalities air their disgust for homosexuals should be the same way seun ought to be quiet on some issues. Imagine the founder creating a thread that religious people are suffering. That's very insensitive

Im wondering why you havent been banned undecided

I nor dey talk reach this one b4 dey gimme days of ban undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Something Inherently Wrong With Black Africans? by winner01(m): 10:51pm On Sep 02, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Exactly !!! I dey your back bro as usual . I had so many things to say but I had to let it go . The only way to shut him up was to ask him the achievements he made as an atheist that separate him from the religious people .

I am yet to his inputs here -> https://www.nairaland.com/3009541/negro-atheists-show-me-works

You dig right ?

You'll begin to hear, I love more, i work better, i understand the world better. Like seriously undecided

.
Atheism is a pity.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Something Inherently Wrong With Black Africans? by winner01(m): 10:37pm On Sep 02, 2016

sonofluc1fer:
Funny thing is this thread has absolutely nothing to do with atheism.

Exactly!!! because atheism is not a thing or better still its is a thing too absurd to talk about. So lets just talk about religion dishonestly and get people to embrace atheism.
This is the same dude who blamed religion for africans underperforming in the olympics.
I think its a waste of time to address the nonsense in the oP, especially in this thread. When you begin to be the change you preach and not just mock people who have been changing and are changing their world positively. Then you will be taken seriously.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Something Inherently Wrong With Black Africans? by winner01(m): 10:28pm On Sep 02, 2016

Antiparticle:
[size=5pt]Let's not ask each other obvious questions na. There are several examples of Yahweh implementing murder on people who did little to nothing.
Here's are a few examples:

2 Kings 23-24
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
Do you support this sort of mass murder supposedly implemented by Yahweh? Isn't this cruel, unusual, deeply unjust, and inhumane?

One of the most common examples given is Yahweh commanding King Saul to kill all the Amalekites, including their babies.
1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
So what did the babies do to deserve such death? What did the animals do to deserve such death? Would you consider these murders to be just?

Deutronomy 25:11-12
If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.
Do these sort of commands appear moral and humane to you bro?

2 Chronicles 15:12-13
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
This is exactly equivalent to what ISIS does. Do you think it is justified for Yahweh to command his followers to murder someone because they believe in a different deity?

Isaiah 14:21
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.
Is this justified?[/size]

You know whatI think? I think atheism has exhausted all its arguments against christianity.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Something Inherently Wrong With Black Africans? by winner01(m): 10:18pm On Sep 02, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
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The Op said religion stops you from reading other books and only wants you to read holy books . Have you heard anything more stupid today than that ?

The OP itself is stupid. I've never seen such much ignorance compiled in one writeup. Ill open a counter thread maybe tomorrow or next.
Atheism thrives upon lies and stupidity. Take those two away, you are left with silence. Its so terrible.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Something Inherently Wrong With Black Africans? by winner01(m): 9:28pm On Sep 02, 2016

This is a very dishonest thread, terribly dishonest undecided

. Dont even know where to start. Ill just create a counter thread instead.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 12:10pm On Sep 01, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
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I told you guys that these atheists just regurgitate what they see on their websites . And these are two different websites

And PastorAIO and sonOfLuc1fer say I'm the idiotic one ? . hehehe

lmao

Freethinking indeed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: If All Human Evolves From Ape, Why Then Do We Have Apes In Existence? by winner01(m): 10:22am On Sep 01, 2016*

branhampaul:
Science Is Of The Devil.. How Can Man Evolve From Ape.. If Man Should Evolve From Ape;
Why Cant Ape Transfer Blood To Man?
How Come Man Has A Soul And Ape Doesnt?
Why Are There Still Apes?, Why Didnt All Of Them Turn To Man?..
Science Is Of The DEVIL.

Science is not of the devil, God is the greatest scientist. Rather, macro evolution is a lie of the devil.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christians,was The Gospel Account Of Matthew Divinely Inspired? by winner01(m): 11:09pm On Aug 31, 2016

Why do these people say the same thing over and over? We have addressed this issues severally. Are y'all out of accusations?

I honestly dont think atheists are going to be bringing new arguments against christianity anytime soon.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:48pm On Aug 31, 2016

EyeHateGod:

Why do you lie.
That meme is a serious lie, and im going to open a new thread for it. angry

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:46pm On Aug 31, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm great , thank God .

We just having fun and some are taking it personal - this makes it more fun .

abi

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:42pm On Aug 31, 2016

Joshthefirst:
[size=14pt]Your lack of belief isn't due to a lack of evidence, it just means no amount of evidence will convince you.[/size]

GBAM!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:37pm On Aug 31, 2016

hahn:
It is not my fault. It always amuses me when an RCCG and JW member argue. That's all. It is almost as if there is another Christ or 33,000 versions of it

sonofluc1fer:
How can you follow a dead man you never met? You follow doctrines, which are made by your churches. Keep.lying and deceiving yourself that you follow Christ.. while Kingebukasblog worships at Chosen this Sunday.

When you recognize the truth that God is not denominational, other things will fall in place.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:19pm On Aug 31, 2016

hahn:
No. They came to preach. And then asked me to contribute to the spiritual purse that is normally used to buy canal things

And then you've come here to cry? undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:18pm On Aug 31, 2016

hahn:
Lol. At least we are CONSISTENT. That is a good thing, no?

Christianity has 33,000 different denominations and you guys do not agree on a lot of things in the bible. And you claim that you all got the message from ONE god?

Christianity means followers of Christ, not followers of denominations.
How many times do we tell you this?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism’s Universe And A Little Indian Parable. by winner01(op): 10:16pm On Aug 31, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Your pic is on point .

Thanks Bro.

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